8.3 Group Friendly so far!

[Lyonheart]

I did HoO on my first team as a group! wasn't looking forward to doing it on each toon separately! Heres to hoping the rest is that way!

[WOWBOX40]

HoO? What does that stand for?

[Lyonheart]

HoO? What does that stand for?

Halls of Origination.. the first instance you have to do.. i thought it would be a solo instance.. but i was able to do it with my group

[WOWBOX40]

Nice.. supposedly 8.3 wont be out in eu untill 14 o'clock CET... apparently some visions bug.. patch implementation will occur between 06 to 14 o'clock CET.

[Ellay]

The second phase in Mists is also group friendly as well. Was a welcomed change.

[Tin]

Anything of the long Q chain - you can skip on next team ?

[Lance]

I just started it on my second team and you can skip the first scenario in HoO so far. Not gone any further yet.

[WOWBOX40]

Just an update:

1. the very first scenario, in Halls of origination... you can choose to skip it, talk to Magni just outside the entrance to the dungeon.

2. When at Ra-den, in Pandaria, you can talk to him again to choose to skip "the engine of nalak-sha" scenario.

That is all ive found.
ohwell, atleast its possible to 5man the rest.
Around 4-5 hours all in all to complete the questchain, up unntil picking up the raidquest to kill n'zoth and save Ra-den.

[Ellay]

Going through a second time right now, it's definitely much quicker with the skips and realizing that you don't have to do all of the dailies, just the main assaults.

[Slowplay]

The guides are stating 2 to 3hrs to clear, but I am at 3.5hrs to just cloak. I have been watching/reading everything. Hope it's faster on next groups with skips and passing vids.

[Ellay]

I got the cloak in probably 60-75 min max on 5x Druids. The double skip, plus not doing any of the side quests just do the actual assault and it goes quickly.

[Lyonheart]

I never noticed the second skip.. i did the whole thing ( including all the side quests and dailies ) on my second team. SO far i have 5x hunters and 5x paladins.

[Ellay]

The first skip is talking to magni outside of the dungeon. The second skip is talking to Ra-den in MoP.
The 3rd scenario you have to do (Blackwing Decent) - and doesn't take that long unless... your team is in a raid instead of a party! That took a little bit of finesse to reset it and go and do it again.

[mrdsp]

Anybody know if you can skip on the opposite faction? EG, complete the chain on Horde and skip on Alliance?

[Lance]

Yeah you can skip on other faction.

[mrdsp]

Yeah you can skip on other faction.

Nice one, thanks.

[Andreauk]

Have any of you actually boxed the visions yet??

[Ellay]

Yep, they aren't going to be easy. Last week I did Thrall + 1 corrupted zone on both 5x Druid and 1xTank/3xDPS/1x Healer comp and it was fine.
I made a huge mistake though and went with the solo talents instead of the group talents, make sure you pick the right side. It increases your sanity from 1000 to 1750 after 3 points if using a full 5 person group. If I had the full 1750 sanity bar, I could have done both corrupted zones or potentially one of the lost zones.

One thing I read and I am trying to verify, is that if you add a tank - the mobs hit harder and if you add a healer there needs to be things to dispel. Because I've watched videos of players doing 3 man teams and the mobs feel super squishy and don't hit hard at all, whereas in the full 5 person group some of the aoe move takes half the hp from my entire team.
So hoping to get a better answer on that one.

There are groups out there that on the first week cleared the entire zone, with no masks but still - impressive feat.

[Ellay]

Additionally when I say they aren't going to be easy, the reason being is there is so many personal things to avoid going on all of the time, and then those abilities get compounded on top of each other when you fight the last boss.
Example, the lost zone was spawning void shadows all around each character solo - if you touch any of them you are disoriented for 4 seconds. You can only move out of it in one direction that is random, for each character and they don't spawn at the same time, and can only be seen by the single player.
The easiest extra zone last boss summons void waves that head directly to the boss from all directions. If you hit it your silenced, and he also casts an aoe silence that lasts 9 seconds. You can remove it by running into random yellow orbs, but it only works for each character. It basically neutralizes any kind of casters, because the ability is recast in like 20~ seconds.
Then to top that off, that ability is then added to the last boss, so it gets more hp and more problems.

It's super fun and frustrating at the same time and is going to be the pinnacle of difficulty that you can choose to ramp up on yourself.

To top it off, there are 5 "masks" that each have their own affix to it, to add even more difficulty. Adding a mask increases the end of the run rewards.

So the goal is going to be clear the last boss - then clear a corrupted zone + last boss. Then clear 2 zones + boss. Once you clear all 4 zones + boss you'll add 1 mask, and try a full clear, all the way up.

[Andreauk]

Thanks for the replies :)

Urgh sounds like a headache.. I only box x3 Demo Locks at max level atm.. might be better to do them solo for each Lock then?

[Ellay]

Since there is only typically 3-4 runs per week. I would try one with 3 and then try it solo. Your going to find the solo probably much more enjoyable. And it’ll only take you an hour and change to run it on all.

[Andreauk]

I tried taking all 3 Locks in there but it was a headache and I failed.. running them seperate was far easier and fun.

Very happy.. this week was my first and my cloak on all Locks is rank 5 :)

[Purpleflavor]

Seems a lot of everything is easier solo these days. When i target elites it will have their health at like 200k, and then the moment my group tags it the health spikes to 800k.

[Ellay]

Ya, that was changed back in Legion to my knowledge. If you have high burst classes - your opener will sometimes drop the mob to less than 25% which is nice but it was a way to allow elites/rares to be tagged by multiple people if I recall.

[Lyonheart]

The new faction area can be a bit of a pain boxing with a melee team. So much moving around dodging stuff on the ground that can one shot a whole team. But I love the hunters in my team now.. although i am not loving paly heals.. kind of weak. I just ran my shaman and one of my druids through the start of the visions quest line. I have a 120 monk as well I'm going to get through the quests. But paly tank+some healer+3 hunters feels good.

[Andreauk]

It's terrible on my Locks.. those mantid things that stick the stuff down that one shots isnt fun when I am casting :(