Classic multibox leveling guide!

[Peregrine]

Mage x4 + Priest (MMMMP)
Optimized for Horde

Contents
1) Talents
2) Equipment
3) Leveling Route
4) PvP Spec @ 60
5) Optimized Gear (PvE)
6) Macros


1) Talents



Talents
Mage
Priest


Level 10-60
Link (https://www.bobo-talents.com/?c=mage&t=pZsqsrssstpYrirjrkrlI8p2q3q4p3rpp5rnpXrmp0rarbrc p~rdwdwewfC5p.pFqTqUqVqWpJpKsusvswp6pBqRpGqPqQpDsI sJ)
Link (https://www.bobo-talents.com/?c=priest&t=vhvMvNvOvPvrvvvqvwvxvivIvJvKvLvgvCvDvpvyvuDeDfDg DhDiC-DaDbDcpvvYv4vQv0v1v2v3C8C9C_C.C~wgvRwXIVIWwYDdvz)



Bobo-Talents shows you the recommended order in which talents are to be chosen.



2) Equipment

Additional Notes:

Any BOE listed as a "World Drop" can be found on the auction house.
When a location is shown, but "Dropped By" is listed as N/A, it means it's a random drop from that location.
Anywhere "Random" is shown for Stats, of the Eagle (+Int/+Stam) or Owl (+Int/+Spirit) are recommended, in that order.
Level is used for minimum level to equip the item, or pick up the quest for the item.
If you have extra gold/time, I'd recommend enchanting lower pieces of chest with 100 mana, bracers with intellect.





Levels 13-20
Item Slot
Stats
Binding
Level
Dropped By
Location


 
Robes of Evocation (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=14150/robe-of-evocation)
 
Chest
4 Intellect
3 Stamina
 
 
BOP
 
13
 
Jergosh the Invoker
 
Ragefire Chasm


 
Clear Crystal Rod (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=16894/clear-crystal-rod)
 
Wand
5 Intellect
4 Stamina
 
 
BOP
 
15
[+21] Quest
Horde Only
Stonetalon
Mountains


 
Magefist Gloves (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=12977/magefist-gloves)
 
Hands
5 Intellect
3 Stamina
4 Spirit     
 
BOE
 
15
 
N/A
 
World Drop


 
Darkweave Breeches (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=12987/darkweave-breeches)
 
Legs
7 Intellect
4 Stamina
6 Spirit     
 
BOE
 
17
 
N/A
 
World Drop


 
Keller's Girdle (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=2911/kellers-girdle)
 
Waist
8 Intellect
3 Stamina
 
 
BOE
 
18
 
N/A
 
World Drop


 
Bright Belt (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=4708/bright-belt)
 
Waist
4 Intellect
4 Stamina
 
 
BOE
 
19
 
N/A
 
World Drop


 
Spidersilk Boots (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=4320/spidersilk-boots)
 
Feet
4 Intellect
4 Stamina
7 Spirit     
 
BOE
 
20
 
N/A
 
World Drop


 
Magician's Mantle (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=12998/magicians-mantle)
 
Shoulder
9 Intellect
+5 Damage/
Healing Spells
 
BOE
 
20
 
N/A
 
World Drop


Lead Band (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=11981/lead-band)
Ring
Random
BOE
15
N/A
World Drop


Quartz Ring (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=11965/quartz-ring)
Ring
Random
BOE
15
N/A
World Drop






Levels 21-40
Item Slot
Stats
Binding
Level
Dropped By
Location


Black Velvet Robes (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=2800/black-velvet-robes)
Chest
12 Intellect  
  5 Stamina  
BOE
21
N/A
World Drop


Robes of the Lich (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=10762/robes-of-the-lich)
Chest
10 Intellect
20 Stamina
BOP
39
Amnennar the
Coldbringer
Razorfen Downs


 
Lonetree's Circle (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=18586/lonetrees-circle)
 
Ring
6 Intellect
6 Stamina
4 Spirit     
 
BOP
 
30
[+40] Quest
Horde Only
Dustwallow
Marsh


 
Triune Amulet (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=7722/triune-amulet)
 
Neck
7 Intellect
7 Stamina
7 Spirit     
 
BOP
 
39
High Inquisitor
Whitemane
Scarlet Monastery:
Cathedral


 
Windweaver Staff (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=7757/windweaver-staff)
 
Main Hand
15 Intellect
7 Stamina
14 Arcane    
 
BOE
 
32
 
N/A
 
Scarlet Monastery


 
Illusionary Rod (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=7713/illusionary-rod)
 
Main Hand
15 Intellect
7 Stamina
10 Spirit       
 
BOP
 
34
 
Arcanist Doan
Scarlet Monastery:
Library


Warsong Sash (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=16975/warsong-sash)
Waist
9 Intellect
4 Stamina
BOP
22
[27] Quest
Horde Only
Ashenvale
(Battleground)


 
Embalmed Shroud (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=7691/embalmed-shroud)
 
Head
11 Intellect  
7 Stamina
12 Spirit       
 
BOP
 
30
Fallen Champion
(Rare)
Scarlet Monastery:
Graveyard


 
Whitemane's Chapeau (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=7720/whitemanes-chapeau)
 
Head
14 Intellect  
9 Stamina
14 Spirit       
 
BOP
 
39
High Inquisitor
Whitemane
Scarlet Monastery:
Cathedral


Darkspear Cuffs (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=4133/darkspear-cuffs)
Wrist
7 Intellect
3 Stamina
BOP
30
[37] Quest
Horde Only
Stranglethorn Vale


Deathmage Sash (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=10771/deathmage-sash)
Waist
15 Intellect  
6 Stamina
BOP
36
Mordresh Fire Eye
Razorfen Downs

[Peregrine]

2) Equipment (cont)




Levels 41-60
Item Slot
Stats
Binding
Level
Dropped By
Location


 
Jumanza Grips (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=18083/jumanza-grips)
 
Hands
11 Intellect
10 Stamina
10 Spirit     
 
BOP
 
42
Witch Doctor
Zum'rah
 
Zul'farrak


Glowing Crystal Ring (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=18402/glowing-crystal-ring)
Ring
12 Intellect  
5 Stamina
BOP
54
[57] Quest
Both Factions
Silithus?


 
 
Glowing Brightwood Staff (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=812/glowing-brightwood-staff)
 
 
 
 
Main Hand
 
 
 
29 Intellect
15 Stamina
9 Spirit    
    15 Nature Res
 
 
BOE
 
 
 
 
49
 
 
 
 
N/A
 
 
 
 
World Drop
 
 


 
Eye of Theradras (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=17715/eye-of-theradras)
 
Head
20 Intellect
13 Stamina
11 Spirit     
 
BOP
 
49
Princess
Theradras
 
Maraudon


 
Gemshard Heart (https://classic.wowhead.com/item=17707/gemshard-heart)
 
Neck
10 Intellect
10 Stamina
6 Spirit   
 
BOP
 
49
Princess
Theradras
 
Maraudon





Note: Leaving this post wide open for now in case people want to contribute to the list of gear, since it's currently focused on Horde.

-MiRai

[Peregrine]

1c) LEVELING ROUTE
1-14
Start by accepting the inital quests and then leveling your toons to level 5. Once you hit level 5 I'd recommend going to the Orgrimmar start area and picking the quests there.
Once you complete all those, move to the Sen'Jin village and complete following quests:
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=808/minshinas-skull
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=826/zalazane
Also, nearby you can complete this quest:
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=786/thwarting-kolkar-aggression
From there, move to Razor Hill and pickup the following quests:
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=806/dark-storms
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=784/vanquish-the-betrayers
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=837/encroachment
Complete the https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=837/encroachment and grind xp until you're lv 8 or so. In addition, you can complete the https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=784/vanquish-the-betrayers
and don't forget to pick up the chest all the way on top of the castle.
Once you complete all those quests, I'd recommend moving to the https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=828/margoz quest that you will receive from the npc
https://classic.wowhead.com/npc=3142/orgnil-soulscar#starts
Once you're at Margoz, he will give you the follow up quest for the cave nearby. Farm there until you're level 10. Complete the quest that you've received, and from there move to Zepplein to Undercity and
visit Sepuluchur at Silverpine Forest. Pick up the following quests there:
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=421/prove-your-worth
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=482/dalarans-intentions
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=449/the-deathstalkers-report
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=6323/ride-to-the-undercity
If you have help, you can try the elite quest : https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=452/pyrewood-ambush
I'd recommend after doing all the quests to simply grind here until you're level 12 or so. Move to Undercity, pick up the quest for Rfc from :
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=5725/the-power-to-destroy
Once you complete all those quests, you can simply backtrack to Orgrimmar (don't forget to set your HS here) turn in the quest from cave, take the follow up, complete the quests at cave and move to Crossroads.
I'd recommend taking following quests:
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=1492/wharfmaster-dizzywig
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=871/disrupt-the-attacks
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=5041/supplies-for-the-crossroads
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=877/the-stagnant-oasis
Once you complete those, move to Ratchet and pickup the following quests:
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=900/samophlange
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=887/southsea-freebooters
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=888/stolen-booty
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=895/wanted-baron-longshore
Additionally, complete the following quests:
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=850/kolkar-leaders

At this point, you should be lv 14 or close to it.
14-30

I'd recommend moving to Orgrimmar, waiting for buff (hp one) and then grinding the Rfc until you're level 19.

From there, you you should move to the Wailing Caverns and farm the inner circle of raptors (don't deviate from the dungeon ) and you should be able to hit lv 22. Once you're level 22, move to the
Tarren Mill and do the following quests:
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=527/battle-of-hillsbrad
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=567/dangerous
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=498/the-rescue
Once you complete those and are close to lv 24, move to Orgrimmar, and start travelling to Ashenvale, all the way to the Blackfanthom Deeps.
You can complete the following quests:
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=6547/warsong-scout-update
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=6442/naga-at-the-zoram-strand
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=216/between-a-rock-and-a-thistlefur
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=6503/ashenvale-outrunners

All those should net you level 24 at which you can move to Bfd dungeon and grind it until you're level 28.
Once you hit level 28th I would also really recommend grinding to level 30 anywhere in world you can. (preferably you can choose the thousand needles).

[Peregrine]

30-44
Once you hit the level 30 move to Scarlet Monastery and grind the SM graveyard until you're level 32.
At lv 32, you can freely move to library and grind freely here until you're level 38 (at level 38 you will receive a new rank of Arcane Explosion).
Once you hit lv 38 move to Sm Cathedral and grind here until you're level 42 or 43. Once you hit level 43 you can move to Tanaris to Gadetzan and pick up and
complete the following quests:
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=1690/wastewander-justice
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=2873/stoleys-shipment
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=2875/wanted-andre-firebeard
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=8366/southsea-shakedown
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=2874/deliver-to-mackinley (optional)
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=2781/wanted-caliph-scorpidsting
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=992/gadgetzan-water-survey - this is repeatable quest so each time you turn this in, you will receive 280xp.

44-53
Once you hit lv 44 or 45 (45 if you prefer bit easier) you should move to Zul'Farrak and grind your levels there.
Upon reaching lv 50 move to Hinterlands and pick all quests there and complete it, namely:
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7862/job-opening-guard-captain-of-revantusk-village
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7861/wanted-vile-priestess-hexx-and-her-minions
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7845/kidnapped-elder-torntusk
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7849/separation-anxiety
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7850/dark-vessels
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7815/snapjaws-mon
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7840/lard-lost-his-lunch
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7816/gammerita-mon
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7839/vilebranch-hooligans
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7830/avenging-the-fallen
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7829/hunt-the-savages
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7828/stalking-the-stalkers
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7844/cannibalistic-cousins
Once you complete those,you should move to Searing Gorge and complete the following quests:
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7728/stolen-smithing-tuyere-and-lookouts-spyglass
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7729/job-opportunity-culling-the-competition
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7727/incendosaurs-whateverosaur-is-more-like-it
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7724/fiery-menace
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7723/curse-these-fat-fingers
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7702/kill-em-with-sleep-deprivation
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7722/what-the-flux
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7701/wanted-overseer-maltorius
53-60

You should be close to 53 or 54 (depending on grinding of mobs).
I would recommend moving slowly to Brd (Blackrock Depths dungeon) and farming there all the way to the level 60. Optionally, you can finish up the quests at Winterspring and
Ungoro crater combined with Western Plaguelands and Felwood and you should be able to hit 60 with last 2 levels in BRD


1d) PVP SPECC FOR LV 60 PVP
Mage:
https://classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/mage/2300550310201531-0552020123
Priest
https://classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/priest/500231133205141-204051332
1e) OPTIMIZED GEARING FOR PVE
https://classic.wowhead.com/gear-planner/mage/undead/AjwAAUheAi9HA0kgBTdIBjaEBzNyCEa2CUhBCkfTC0KVDDPjDT aQDjKCD0hAEEhmEkJl
This is very solid gear that takes into account that you're fire specc as this is purely for soloing dungeons as boxer whilst having insane amount of crit.
This is for both priest and the mage.

1f) Macros

One button kill + auto accept ressurection
/click StaticPopup1Button1
/use Smokey's Lighter
/cast Arcane Power
/cast Presence of Mind
/cast [@player] Dense Dynamite
/castsequence [@player] Flamestrike, Arcane Explosion, Arcane Explosion, Arcane Explosion, Arcane Explosion
Pyroblast + Presence of Mind + Trinket
/use name of your trinket
/cast Presence of Mind
/cast Arcane Power
/cast Pyroblast(Rank 8)

Flamestrike on yourself
/cast Presence of Mind
/cast Arcane Power
/cast [@player] Flamestrike

Closing word:


Obviously, there is no 100% bulletproof leveling guide so if you fall behind or go ahead you can always skip certain parts.
If you have any feedback be sure to send me a message and I'll update the guide if needed.
Thanks for reading and godspeed with your leveling!

[BeefSupreme]

Awesome post! Thank you very much. My first question would be this, how did you manage killing bosses, like Doan?

[sethlan]

That's awesome, Thanks!!!!

[nodoze]

Additional reserved in case of space!

I'm hijacking this last reserved spot to say that Peregrine asked for some formatting advice on this guide and liked what I showed him, so the formatting will be changing over the next day or so, and you shouldn't freak out if the post(s) change after you refresh or re-visit the thread!

-MiRaiHaving "living" first/initial posts that summarize a full topic and are kept updated/relevant is great for the community.

Often any product of significant work like this (Great job Bruce Lee !) will go through multiple drafts and versions.

Having multiple reservations after the initial post also shouldn't be that surprising nor foreign any more ;-)

[Peregrine]

Awesome post! Thank you very much. My first question would be this, how did you manage killing bosses, like Doan?

The Doan is quite simple,you drag him out of his room, whilst placing your mages in front of him (near the 2 pillars in the hall before his room) and placing your disc behind mages (and out of reach of silence).

Then, when he silences your mages, you can simply dispel them and when he does his nova you just line of sight now with entire team by following your priest, then you simply step backwards with your mages and with your priest you go across mages and finish him off.

Then it's matter of time before he dies.

[sethlan]

The Doan is quite simple,you drag him out of his room, whilst placing your mages in front of him (near the 2 pillars in the hall before his room) and placing your disc behind mages (and out of reach of silence).

Then, when he silences your mages, you can simply dispel them and when he does his nova you just line of sight now with entire team by following your priest, then you simply step backwards with your mages and with your priest you go across mages and finish him off.

Then it's matter of time before he dies.

So leveling as Fire/ is better? my 5x mages are 33 ATM, and are in frost...

[Peregrine]

So leveling as Fire/ is better? my 5x mages are 33 ATM, and are in frost...

I believe so, yeah! I leveled as arcane completely and uponr eaching swapped to fire rest of points, you can check the talent tree for leveling on beggining of this thread.

[sethlan]

I believe so, yeah! I leveled as arcane completely and uponr eaching swapped to fire rest of points, you can check the talent tree for leveling on beggining of this thread.

So you drop the all the points in fire first, and move to Arcane tree?

[Peregrine]

So you drop the all the points in fire first, and move to Arcane tree?

It sys in teh leveling talents what to pickk at what level :)

[sethlan]

It sys in teh leveling talents what to pickk at what level :)

ahh, I'm too tired :) thanks! again, thanks for spending time by making this. It be nice to take hop on mages and take some time-off from shamans!

cheers!

[bondfire]

Classic Multiboxing Horde Leveling guide by Peregrine

Do you think you can add some details (or link to somewhere) that explains how to setup the mouse click healing you have setup? That's the only thing that's giving me some trouble.

[Peregrine]

Do you think you can add some details (or link to somewhere) that explains how to setup the mouse click healing you have setup? That's the only thing that's giving me some trouble.

You should check MiRai instructional videos about isboxer. He's the man to go to, really I have learned everything I know pretty much from his videos when it comes to broadcasting etc/healing.

You can find his videos HERE (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ5MzOO5Yt38CJeN035Wtrg)

[Madsage]

From 50 to 54 leveling in Sunken Temple is the fastest grinding method by clearing dragons and dragonkin in the inner circle and killing trolls in the outer circle when you want to avoid instance lockout. You get to the inner circle by taking the stairs to the far left from instance entrance.

The dragons have very poor loot compared to ZF graveyard and BRD mobs, however they hit for nothing compared to BRD mobs even though they are 1-2 levels higher than them, so you can pull big packs with very little risk of dying.

If you care about the gold make sure you have skinning since 90% of mobs you will grind are skinnable.

[bondfire]

You should check MiRai instructional videos about isboxer. He's the man to go to, really I have learned everything I know pretty much from his videos when it comes to broadcasting etc/healing.

You can find his videos HERE (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ5MzOO5Yt38CJeN035Wtrg)

So I have been checking out his videos for just about everything isboxer related and it has been enormously helpful. When it comes to healing he has created several different videos with different ways to implement healing. I'm just wondering which you went with. It looks like the "pro system" method (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mizu6e6BEno) is one of the most recent, but is fairly complicated to setup. Before I go into all those videos, I just wanted to see if that's what you were using.

[Peregrine]

So I have been checking out his videos for just about everything isboxer related and it has been enormously helpful. When it comes to healing he has created several different videos with different ways to implement healing. I'm just wondering which you went with. It looks like the "pro system" method (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mizu6e6BEno) is one of the most recent, but is fairly complicated to setup. Before I go into all those videos, I just wanted to see if that's what you were using.

I went with vfx, and vudho and clique. Not using pro setup as I got only 1 team, so pretty much I use all binds in same way (E for interrupt, R for hard CC, and similiar binds, so it works for everything).

It's been really easy to use tbh. I've tried alot of different setup and this one works best for me.

[Acidburning]

From 50 to 54 leveling in Sunken Temple is the fastest grinding method by clearing dragons and dragonkin in the inner circle and killing trolls in the outer circle when you want to avoid instance lockout. You get to the inner circle by taking the stairs to the far left from instance entrance.

The dragons have very poor loot compared to ZF graveyard and BRD mobs, however they hit for nothing compared to BRD mobs even though they are 1-2 levels higher than them, so you can pull big packs with very little risk of dying.

If you care about the gold make sure you have skinning since 90% of mobs you will grind are skinnable.

Been doing something similar. Got the drops I needed from Maraudon. My team is 51 and I have been grinding the top ring in ST (the 6 mini bosses). There is a pre BIS for my druid tank. I am hoping to get it by 55. I will try the dragons again. I had some issues before at 50 and my healer got sleep'd.

[Battleshrimp]

So I have been checking out his videos for just about everything isboxer related and it has been enormously helpful. When it comes to healing he has created several different videos with different ways to implement healing. I'm just wondering which you went with. It looks like the "pro system" method (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mizu6e6BEno) is one of the most recent, but is fairly complicated to setup. Before I go into all those videos, I just wanted to see if that's what you were using.

Check this out:
https://youtu.be/QUdAgbQmegE

[bondfire]

Check this out:
https://youtu.be/QUdAgbQmegE
Very helpful. I wonder how frequently the cursor gets out of sync and if there is an easier way to automate the sync.

[Duck]

I've been healing this way for about a week and I've never seen it get out of sync. I think it was just out of sync in that video for the initial setup. MiRai also has a great video for healing the same way (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-ADHcJky2k&t=1124s) but goes into more depth.

[Mercbeast]

Been doing something similar. Got the drops I needed from Maraudon. My team is 51 and I have been grinding the top ring in ST (the 6 mini bosses). There is a pre BIS for my druid tank. I am hoping to get it by 55. I will try the dragons again. I had some issues before at 50 and my healer got sleep'd.

If you can dispel magic, and you're a melee team, the upper ring with the trolls was the best place for me when I did it. I skipped the mini-bosses after I did one run for quests, and was able to do ~50-55k/hr from 52-55 there. I was 4 warriors and 1 priest. I tried the dragons, and it was much slower, and more difficult. One warrior was liable to get dunked on each big pull initially:(

[gosulity]

Thanks for the great guide, I was very helpful as my first time multiboxing classic however I have some questions if you dont mind

1. Why do you take 4x arcane mind, then pom and after that the 5th arcane mind, why not just take pom at lv30 and 5x arcane mind after ?

2. You suggested to grind in Thousand Needles between 28 and 30 but I couldn't find any efficient place to grind there, there are only 3-4 mobs close enough to pull. Where would you suggest in there to grind ?

[Peregrine]

Thanks for the great guide, I was very helpful as my first time multiboxing classic however I have some questions if you dont mind

1. Why do you take 4x arcane mind, then pom and after that the 5th arcane mind, why not just take pom at lv30 and 5x arcane mind after ?

2. You suggested to grind in Thousand Needles between 28 and 30 but I couldn't find any efficient place to grind there, there are only 3-4 mobs close enough to pull. Where would you suggest in there to grind ?


Mana is more important at start (at that level, then presenceof mind), presence of mind is actually mostly utilized at 50+ (at least for me).

The 28-30 grind is rough one, I'd suggest farming anywhere possible as I haven't find the "perfect" spot, but there are some at stonetalon mountains and desolace (harpies) and preferably the area around dalaran crater. Not many super spots around that specific level. You can always try your luck in STV as well.




Note: Leaving this post wide open for now in case people want to contribute to the list of gear, since it's currently focused on Horde.

-MiRai

Big shoutout to MiRai for making this wonderful formatted edition of guide! Once again, thank you from the bottom of my heart, MiRai!!!

[Poppa]

Mana is more important at start (at that level, then presenceof mind), presence of mind is actually mostly utilized at 50+ (at least for me).

The 28-30 grind is rough one, I'd suggest farming anywhere possible as I haven't find the "perfect" spot, but there are some at stonetalon mountains and desolace (harpies) and preferably the area around dalaran crater. Not many super spots around that specific level. You can always try your luck in STV as well.

Im going to chime in as a first time boxer who was been following this guide but a seasoned wow player. From about 26-30 you can zone into RFK and jump down into the ravine where all the boars are. I was averaging around 25k xp/hr there. You could probably stay til 31 if you wanted. I stayed in SM GY until 34 averaging 35k/hr. At 34 I went to library where I am currently and am averaging 45k/hr. This guide is extremely useful and i hope you put out some more gameplay vids!

[Yukzor]

Im going to chime in as a first time boxer who was been following this guide but a seasoned wow player. From about 26-30 you can zone into RFK and jump down into the ravine where all the boars are. I was averaging around 25k xp/hr there. You could probably stay til 31 if you wanted. I stayed in SM GY until 34 averaging 35k/hr. At 34 I went to library where I am currently and am averaging 45k/hr. This guide is extremely useful and i hope you put out some more gameplay vids!
Agreed.. rfk boars are amazing to get to 30.

[Baleno]

Im going to chime in as a first time boxer who was been following this guide but a seasoned wow player. From about 26-30 you can zone into RFK and jump down into the ravine where all the boars are. I was averaging around 25k xp/hr there. You could probably stay til 31 if you wanted. I stayed in SM GY until 34 averaging 35k/hr. At 34 I went to library where I am currently and am averaging 45k/hr. This guide is extremely useful and i hope you put out some more gameplay vids!

How do you get so much exp? Im getting an average of 14k/h in SM graveyard, running 1 priest and 4 locks at lvl 31. Maybe I'm doing something wrong...

[Vivan]

Mana is more important at start (at that level, then presenceof mind), presence of mind is actually mostly utilized at 50+ (at least for me).

The 28-30 grind is rough one, I'd suggest farming anywhere possible as I haven't find the "perfect" spot, but there are some at stonetalon mountains and desolace (harpies) and preferably the area around dalaran crater. Not many super spots around that specific level. You can always try your luck in STV as well.

Actually, 28-30 is some of the smoothest I've played so far. There is an amazing hyper spawn in Duskwood which nets 25k+ exp/hr happily. This was with WMMMP, so would be even better with MMMMP.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/504835144016986112/650410458955776000/unknown.png?width=933&height=630
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/504835144016986112/650410991519137817/unknown.png?width=1274&height=630

[filthyfrank]

First time multiboxing, followed your guide and so far im getting used to it! Although i have some questions regarding lvl 14 RFC - 22. I tried to AE spam but i always run out mana on my slaves, what did you do?

edit: nvm, figured it out. :D

[Lewsifur]

Share pleasE. :)

[Diwa]

Have you killed Baron Rivendare yet? Is it possible for 4 Mage +Priest

[Baltyre]

I have some noob question about the priest build :

- Why take the Force of will talent ? Does it apply to the heal effect of Holly Nova ?
- I was thinking, after taking improved shield and fortitude, should we go back to heal spec talent until we get holly nova to get it by level 30 ? Or the last talents in discipline are more interesting for leveling ?
- I know that flash heal is not efficient, but at level 26 i mostly use it instead of normal heal because i need to heal quick and with the average lenght of the fight mana is not an issue. How is it at 60 ? Do you use standard heal or flash heal ? (and so, do we need divine fury talent ?)

[Peregrine]

Have you killed Baron Rivendare yet? Is it possible for 4 Mage +Priest


No, I didn't kill him yet, but was/is very busy with retail pushing gladiator. I figured out the strats so most likely, I'll record video next week showing how to kill him easily.

[Peregrine]

I have some noob question about the priest build :

- Why take the Force of will talent ? Does it apply to the heal effect of Holly Nova ?
- I was thinking, after taking improved shield and fortitude, should we go back to heal spec talent until we get holly nova to get it by level 30 ? Or the last talents in discipline are more interesting for leveling ?
- I know that flash heal is not efficient, but at level 26 i mostly use it instead of normal heal because i need to heal quick and with the average lenght of the fight mana is not an issue. How is it at 60 ? Do you use standard heal or flash heal ? (and so, do we need divine fury talent ?)

I take force of will due to increased crit chance.

You can play with leveling as you like, I didn't use holy nova until lv 52. At lv 60 I use mostly flash heal, or if I see impending damage on specific mage I'll precast the big heal so it lands 1 sec after my mage gets hit by big damage.

I would recommend using it, it's always good.

[Vivan]

No, I didn't kill him yet, but was/is very busy with retail pushing gladiator. I figured out the strats so most likely, I'll record video next week showing how to kill him easily.

At any point did you feel regret for not having a tank in your comp while levelling MMMMP? Did lacking the tank (and therefore being unable to do some level-appropriate bosses) limit your gearing while levelling?

[Peregrine]

At any point did you feel regret for not having a tank in your comp while levelling MMMMP? Did lacking the tank (and therefore being unable to do some level-appropriate bosses) limit your gearing while levelling?

Not really, I can do pretty much everything so I don't regret it. Plus, 4x pyro ignite is so much fine (especially, when you get good gear).

[Wzz81]

It's actual the contrary for me !

I'm playing war priest mage mage mage

To have the war is nice to pull some hard encounter easily and without worrying at all but damn, i'll do another mage into the war account for PVP cessions or to farm very quick !

[nodoze]

Not a hyper spawnNot sure I understand the context. If there is something wrong on the listed Hyperspawns please let us know what to fix:

List of HyperSpawns (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j6tc7Bi0WNN_NbplgM1mbKcJkv89c4EhbYDN18vuYA4/edit#gid=1905033222)

[Madsage]

I made a HHHHP team and this spot is the best thing ever, I can place my hunters on the cliff and gather all the mobs with my pets and thanks to blessing of wisdom I can grind without mana breaks.

I actually don't have time to loot all the mobs before new spawn and start attacking me

[Homer]

I made a HHHHP team and this spot is the best thing ever, I can place my hunters on the cliff and gather all the mobs with my pets and thanks to blessing of wisdom I can grind without mana breaks.

I actually don't have time to loot all the mobs before new spawn and start attacking me

Could you explain your UI, is that WA with Clickbars over the top?

[Madsage]

It is arena team tracker, it is just a cooldown tracker. I use keybinds for all hunter abilities and clique with videofx on party frames for paladin.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Doing Ragefire Chasm in Org at 14 with MMMMP (trolls) is pretty touch-and-go. No mistakes allowed. Gear would help I'm sure as I only have one or two terrible greens at this point. And Taragaman the Hungerer just manhandled me lol.

[Baltyre]

Another question about talent, why take arcane subtely on your mage that lower arcane spell threat by 40%, if all take that, that mean your priest threat is increase by 40%.... And if that the point and you tank with the priest, why take 5/5 Silent resolve that lower threat by 20% ?

[Diwa]

Doing Ragefire Chasm in Org at 14 with MMMMP (trolls) is pretty touch-and-go. No mistakes allowed. Gear would help I'm sure as I only have one or two terrible greens at this point. And Taragaman the Hungerer just manhandled me lol.


This is my lineup and I kinda regret not rolling Undead after experiencing multiple fears heading to BRD. Plus the Undead epic mount is just so good compared to shaking dinos

[Peregrine]

Another question about talent, why take arcane subtely on your mage that lower arcane spell threat by 40%, if all take that, that mean your priest threat is increase by 40%.... And if that the point and you tank with the priest, why take 5/5 Silent resolve that lower threat by 20% ?

I took the arcane sub for 10 lower resistance for pvp mainly, you can skip it whilst leveling but I usually always have it on.

[filthyfrank]

Are you supposed to tank with priest? I have been using one of my mages to tank..

[Peregrine]

Are you supposed to tank with priest? I have been using one of my mages to tank..

You're never supposed to tank with the priest. Always and only with the mage. With Ice armor and everything else, it ain't a problem :)

[filthyfrank]

You're never supposed to tank with the priest. Always and only with the mage. With Ice armor and everything else, it ain't a problem :)

Awesome :D Also, do you have any strat for Arcanist Doan (SM LIB) ? Kinda having trouble

[Peregrine]

Awesome :D Also, do you have any strat for Arcanist Doan (SM LIB) ? Kinda having trouble

Refer to the first page of this guide.

[filthyfrank]

Refer to the first page of this guide.

Oh! i missed that, thanks alot will try

Btw, for mage wand quest, would you guys choose fire or arcane?

[Vivan]

I made a HHHHP team and this spot is the best thing ever, I can place my hunters on the cliff and gather all the mobs with my pets and thanks to blessing of wisdom I can grind without mana breaks.

I actually don't have time to loot all the mobs before new spawn and start attacking me


How do you handle the one which is behind the hut on the far side?

[Madsage]

You can click on him and pull him back with your pets, he is not too far away

[gosulity]

I take force of will due to increased crit chance.

You can play with leveling as you like, I didn't use holy nova until lv 52. At lv 60 I use mostly flash heal, or if I see impending damage on specific mage I'll precast the big heal so it lands 1 sec after my mage gets hit by big damage.

I would recommend using it, it's always good.

Force of Will's crit chance is for offensive spells, do you use your priest for dpsing ? I'm at the point where I can put points into Force of Will and take Power Infusion, but I feel like that is a waste of talent points compared to getting 5%crit from holy tree and move into holy nova

[Yukzor]

Do you recommend to stay in brd until 60 or go to lbrs at 57 and strat at 58???

Went to lbra at 57 and orcs are easy but ogres are super tough even though they are same levels as orcs..maybe i should go back to brd...

[Peregrine]

Do you recommend to stay in brd until 60 or go to lbrs at 57 and strat at 58???

Went to lbra at 57 and orcs are easy but ogres are super tough even though they are same levels as orcs..maybe i should go back to brd...

I stayed in Brd all the way to the lv 60.

[Homer]

I stayed in Brd all the way to the lv 60.

What sort of BRD farm did you do, I am 54/55 atm and doing a gorshak farm, much better than a prison farm, but they will mostly grey out by 57/58

[Yukzor]

Yea i stopped gordhak farm at 57

[Lyonheart]

What sort of BRD farm did you do, I am 54/55 atm and doing a gorshak farm, much better than a prison farm, but they will mostly grey out by 57/58

lol..i never even knew about this gorshak farm!

[Diwa]

lol..i never even knew about this gorshak farm!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DGYpMqomtw

[nodoze]

lol..i never even knew about this gorshak farm!Unfortunately if it is the thing I am thinking it is Horde only. The following is the first time I heard of it:

https://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/56632-Any-tips-on-transitioning-to-BRD?p=426091&viewfull=1#post426091

There is a video in there of the person redoing the quest to spawn the mobs and a link to the quest in wowhead showing it is Horde only...

I already had it on the Classic WoW planning spreadsheet on the ToDo tab but I went ahead and added it to the Hyperspawn (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j6tc7Bi0WNN_NbplgM1mbKcJkv89c4EhbYDN18vuYA4/edit#gid=1905033222) tab as a Horde only instance based option.

[Duck]

Wow Gorshak farm is insane XP. 54 to 56.5 today at 80k-85k xp/hr, no looting.

[Homer]

Wow Gorshak farm is insane XP. 54 to 56.5 today at 80k-85k xp/hr, no looting.

You got to loot! Sooo much gold, make quite a lot per hour, I even had two librams drop which are going for 200g ea now.

WMMLP, quick drink after pack while looting, next, 70-75k xp/hr

On that note, I did the troll circle in ST for 3 levels, I got x6 Greater resistance recipes, they go for 70-100g ea.

[Kojiiko]

Wow Gorshak farm is insane XP. 54 to 56.5 today at 80k-85k xp/hr, no looting.

what farm is this? where is this?

[Peregrine]

what farm is this? where is this?

It is Horde only quest located in the BRD gauntlent, it's a quest given in Badlands at Horde FP aka https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=3981/commander-gorshak

Once you get to him and turn in the quest, he will give you another quest that will spawn 8 elite mobs or so, which in end you can repeat all the time (just abandon teh quest and take it again). Afaik, it's best way to farm until lv 57 or so.

[Duck]

You got to loot! Sooo much gold, make quite a lot per hour, I even had two librams drop which are going for 200g ea now.

WMMLP, quick drink after pack while looting, next, 70-75k xp/hr

On that note, I did the troll circle in ST for 3 levels, I got x6 Greater resistance recipes, they go for 70-100g ea.

I just wanted to see what my max xp could be. With wmmmp I would loot always but with mmmmp everyone has to drink. I know I’m missing out right now but I’m doing pretty good on gold right now and I’ll have till server end at 60 to farm gold.

[Reku]

Im assuming 50/51 is too low for BRD? What should I do if i dont wanna quest from 50-53? Stay in ZF another level?

[Carto]

You should knock out the Hinterlands elite quests. Worth about a level if you do them all.

[Reku]

You should knock out the Hinterlands elite quests. Worth about a level if you do them all.

maybe 1/4 to 1/2 a level... I should have left ZF lol
although, i did get some gg items. Rune captain is pretty huge for tank

[nodoze]

Im assuming 50/51 is too low for BRD? What should I do if i dont wanna quest from 50-53? Stay in ZF another level?On Discord for a similar question: MadducksYesterday at 1:28 AM: At 50, you either stay in ZF until 51, or move to Sunken Temple from 50-51. Once you hit 51, hop into BRD for the rest of forever. :slight_smile: You could just do the first ring in BRD at 50, but it'd be pretty tough. You may as well tank the easy gold from ZF while you can, versus struggling in BRD for a little bit better XP, and worse gold

MadducksYesterday at 1:31 AM: For what it's worth, I did go to ST to change it up. If you choose to do the same, stick to the top ring, then jump into the middle for the dragonkin. Don't bother with the bottom area in the water. Dragonkin is great if you have a skinner in the group
I got to 300 skinning, then went back to ZF to finish off 51, then went to BRD

[Duck]

I ended up doing ST from 50-54, same route as above. I tried BRD at 53 but it wasn't as fast for me, mages get their last rank of arcane explosion at 54 and then BRD gorshak farm to 60 were the fastest levels since SM.

[gxd]

Im assuming 50/51 is too low for BRD? What should I do if i dont wanna quest from 50-53? Stay in ZF another level?

I did my 4 mages in ZF from 43 -> 54 lol. The last 2 levels were really pretty slow but the gold is good and I'm grinding AV on my main 60 rogue while I farm ZF on the mages on the side.

I think now that they're 54 I will go to BRD and try Gorshak farming with a warrior friend

[Reku]

To follow up, I ended up subbing a mage for my 60 rogue. I was thinking that my main can solo a lot of stuff in BRD so putting him on the team would be ez exp. Then I could just add mage back later to catch him up. 20k/hr exp and found out that a thrown together rogue profile in AOE team is a bad idea 😂. I was mostly doing Single target damage but notice the aoe wasn’t doing too bad. So I tried my luck with the full team and BOOM 60kexp/hr on first try lol Went from 51 to 53 in a few hours. I wish I would have tried this before I spent like 4 hours grinding timbermaw rep thinking I NEEDED to be 52/53 lol

[Tails]

Thanks a bunch for this guide, recently hit level 60 with my own MMMMP team and it's been doing great.

Cheers,
*Tails
Gehennas EU

[Peregrine]

Thanks a bunch for this guide, recently hit level 60 with my own MMMMP team and it's been doing great.

Cheers,
*Tails
Gehennas EU

Thank you! Happy to made so many folks happy with this guide! :)

[marsh123]

Hey, i'm hitting 60 soon, could you please mention in which order u were farming gear from: https://classic.wowhead.com/gear-planner/mage/undead/AjwAAUheAi9HA0kgBTdIBjaEBzNyCEa2CUhBCkfTC0KVDDPjDT aQDjKCD0hAEEhmEkJl

I want to farm it, but not sure in which order it will be easier.

And couple questions:
1) How did you get gear from UBRS, join some party, or just found a tank and that is enough?
2) Fishing for Jed should be possible without party?
3) How you deal with immune to fire mobs/mobs bosses in endgame dungeons? Arcane missles?

Thanks for the guide, doing good so far.

[Peregrine]

Hey, i'm hitting 60 soon, could you please mention in which order u were farming gear from: https://classic.wowhead.com/gear-planner/mage/undead/AjwAAUheAi9HA0kgBTdIBjaEBzNyCEa2CUhBCkfTC0KVDDPjDT aQDjKCD0hAEEhmEkJl

I want to farm it, but not sure in which order it will be easier.

And couple questions:
1) How did you get gear from UBRS, join some party, or just found a tank and that is enough?
2) Fishing for Jed should be possible without party?
3) How you deal with immune to fire mobs/mobs bosses in endgame dungeons? Arcane missles?

Thanks for the guide, doing good so far.

1) I've paired with tank and rogue so pretty much one shot everything apart Drakkish. /7 man party
2) Jed fishing super doable (takes 20 mins or so per run), I've did it actually, but if you get some tank, even easier.
3) Haven't had any issue but if the mob is fire resistant, spam frostbolt.

I farmed gear randomly, not to lose interest, you can take any path you want. Frankly, I don't think you even need that much gear for that setup. MMMMP is nto that super gear needed if you go fire, I mean, you'll one shot nearly all bosses anyways if you position properly. Ignite stacking is such immense power.

Imagine bwl gaered mage, pew pew!

[StingraY]

Any advice on getting Tsu'zee? I've been doing Jed like checks for this spawn and haven't had much luck. I've been using an ornate spyglass to try and find it but it just doesn't seem to spawn. Is it just incredibly rare? Appreciate the advice.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Any advice on getting Tsu'zee? I've been doing Jed like checks for this spawn and haven't had much luck. I've been using an ornate spyglass to try and find it but it just doesn't seem to spawn. Is it just incredibly rare? Appreciate the advice.
Is this really relevant to the thread?

[StingraY]

Is this really relevant to the thread?

Of course it is as he listed it on the recommended equipment.

I've ran into issues trying to find this mob so I figured I'd ask the guy that had to farm it five times at least.

[MiRai]

Of course it is as he listed it on the recommended equipment.

I've ran into issues trying to find this mob so I figured I'd ask the guy that had to farm it five times at least.
I think the point is now your question is buried on page 8 of a leveling guide, whereas if you had just made a standalone thread asking the same question, many more eyes would be on it and you'd likely get a better answer.

[Peregrine]

Any advice on getting Tsu'zee? I've been doing Jed like checks for this spawn and haven't had much luck. I've been using an ornate spyglass to try and find it but it just doesn't seem to spawn. Is it just incredibly rare? Appreciate the advice.

I've farmed 2 pieces and then I gave up since the drop rate with the rare spawn is so rare I cba. There is a quest in dire maul from King's tribute that takes 10x less time to obtain (from DM W).

[Qussu]

Hello guys im stuck and need little help im run WMMMP team and i was going through that guide. Im stuck on lv 26 im read some ppl say they grind rfk boars but my dmg to them = 0 if not using fireball how do it?(tried blizzard and arcane expolsion) some advance will be very helpful.

[WOWBOX40]

Hello guys im stuck and need little help im run WMMMP team and i was going through that guide. Im stuck on lv 26 im read some ppl say they grind rfk boars but my dmg to them = 0 if not using fireball how do it?(tried blizzard and arcane expolsion) some advance will be very helpful.

Stuck how? Ran out of quests and have to farm mobs to be able to increase a level to get new quests? Cant you farm some dungeon? Arent there any questing addon like the "azeroth auto pilot" or similar, but for classic? Most likely you have missed quests somewhere.

[Qussu]

Im going through that guide and done quest only to lv 14 and some on 23. Then im gone only for dungeon but now its rly hard to kill them in rfk can u share with me your tactic what skill u using? Maybe im doing something wrong. I put talents like in first page but using arcane its hard. I will download this azeroth auto pilot and try it.

Guys can u tell me How many exp per hour u get on lv 28 and higher? I have something like 6k and is going very slowly. I read that some ppl have +20k. Some advice?

[jak3676]

With the MMMMP (or WMMMP), what does your rotation look like on your mages & priest? Do you have to change that up between dungeons (elites mobs) and open world questing? Maybe its because I main a raiding mage, but I can't really imagine tanking with the mage.

Side question. If the focus is on AOE, wouldn't a Druid tank work better than a warrior - for those who want to swap out one of their mages for tank.

*edit* to answer my own question, AOE is either straight AE or Flame Strike + AE once you get that. I generally shield my tank before the pull, run in with everyone and start Flame Strike, then AE+HN once the strikes hits.

Single target is just fireball spam (at least at low levels). All the way to L30 I have my priest alternating between smiting, doing nothing and casting lesser heal on tank.
Warrior as a tank is pretty useless up though at least L30. Most stuff dies before he gets a hit in. I started him with a 1H+shield, but dropped for a 2H because he's not really taking damage anyway.

[jak3676]

I'm generally following this guide, but doing WMMMP. I also generally try to clear every dungeon at level - not because that's optimal leveling, but its just something I enjoy doing. I always have to learn a few things the hard way myself - which generally gets me back to what the OP had for his level recommendations.

1-12 - Quested in Tirisfal. Went to Org at 13 to pick up the RFC quests. The lieutanant's ensignia that you need in the cave outside Org is one of few quests where the quest item does not drop for the whole party at one time - each slave needs their own kill which was annoying.

13-17 RFC. 13 was doable - but difficult. Mostly a learning experience about how to pull, which to pull, how not to chain pull. Critical note - make sure you have wands before you start. Only had enough mana to burst down 2 1/2 mobs, then all 3 mages were oom. Now that I know what I'm doing, if I level a 2nd group it would have probably been simple enough at 12-13. Back at 14 and with wands - much easier. AOE'able at 16 ( I don't think I had any AOE before 16???). Stopped at 17, exp seemed be slowing. Maybe 6-8 runs total?

18-21 WC. I started at 18 after gathering all quests. Easy enough to just burn down casters from a distance. Weird having my tank doing nothing on most fights. Need to watch mobs that sleep and that run and chain pull. Stopped at 21 to turn in quests - 2 full runs + 3rd partial for more hides. Wiped at least 2x because mobs running off to chain pull while I was oom.

22 - did initial ashenvale quests (bring 5 blunderbus's). Mistakenly thought I needed to do the 16x satyr horns, so ended up grinding out 1 1/2 levels on those - that was a mistake. Note that there's 2 different Satry camps, one had mobs 26-28 and the L28 mobs (6 levels over my level) were really hard. The area with mobs L25-27 was SOOOOooooo much easier. Still had to mostly single target though, becuase 2x L27 mobs and I'd go oom. Nice to have 4x warsong sash's, decent blue for my warrior also. I'd recommend the author add this quest to his list of recommended.

23-34 SFK. Started at L23. Had to do a mix of single target and AOE pulls. Multiple wipes learning which mobs have AOE silence. Easy enough to pull correctly once you know how to pull it, just remember to drop off the kids a ways back before some pulls. I could not burn the final boss at L23, just kept wiping. Re-ran at L24, wiped once but got the boss down by just burning him and healing through it.

L24 - Tarren Mill battle of hillsbrad quests. Very easy to AOE them all. But it finishes with 2 quests to kill L30 mobs. Doable at 6 levels higher than me, but I went oom on all casters and needed mana pots to finish off. Recommend waiting till L25 for the L30 mob quests next time.

L25 - Ashenvale quests out by Zoram Strand & Thistlefur Village. Very easy to AOE them all. Stayed for a while to farm pages and herbs/ore.

L26-28 - BFD. Pretty straight forward, but wiped 2x - the murlock room chain pulled when I didn't pull them back far enough. Then on my 2nd run, I wiped again again just before the brazier room - damn humans running to get help. If anything, my problem was that it seemed "too easy" so I was overconfident doing mass pulls.

L28-29 - Back to Tarren Mill and Dun Garok quests. Ended up grinding almost a whole level in Azure Load in the mine in Tarren Mill. In hind sight I should have done something else. I feel like I could have optimized some quests runs in here, will change this up if I do it again.

L30-31 - RFK. Just did 1 run to finish warrior quest (mistakenly thought I needed that for Beserker stance - you don't, just kill the guys on the island). Very easy to AOE pull. But I did wipe one time because I forgot the bats do an AOE silence. Its easy enough to single target them from distance, but that's what I get for charging in and trying to AE everything.

L31+ On to SM....

[Peregrine]

Glad that you liked it.

:)

Keep it up.

[Zalaz]

Hi fellow multiboxers,

At first, I want to thank Peregrine for the guide.

And for those who are struggling with Gor'shak at "low lvl" MMMMP party - see guide below.

I started Gorshak at lvl 52, at this level the fight may be difficult and someone from party will die occasionally (chances are high if 2x57 lvl elites spawn).
Anyway, even with a few deaths it was still quiet good, easy and reliable source of xp and gold.

I had to solve one problem first, I wasn't able to manage unpredictable agro on +- equally equipped mages with the same dmg/threat with my healer.

Solution: just take one mage with the best survivability (most HP, armor etc.) and don't spend points on "Burning Soul" talent on selected mage at levels 52 and 53 (you can take it later, just wait till 55 or so). However, take this talent on all other mages.
Without "Burning Soul" on one mage is aggro way more predictable, so you know who needs flash heals.

Use class buffs: int buff + stam buff on mages + spirit on priest.
And reminder - don't forget to use Amplify Magic on all mages. AM helps a lot in this fight.
Enchants, armor patches on legs etc. can help. But no special gear needed, I did this with mostly SM equip on mages and priest.

Before each pull:
1 mana shield on all mages (aggro is more predictable, but you never know who resists/crits...)
2 precast powerword shield on at least two/three mages before you start the quest (be careful with shielding during combat).
Trick is to use 2x shields on you "tank" during single fight.
Shield has 30s duration + 15s weakness soul debuff. If you time your shields properly you end up with ~10s of shield duration at the beginning of the fight. So you are able to cast second shield once first is destroyed and then just spam flash heals.
3 let Gorshak to aggro first pack
4 once second pack spawns start casting Flame Strike
5 the spam Arcane Explosion, refresh shield on "tank" once first is destroyed and then spam flash heals.

Every level makes the fight easier, even lvl 53 is significant improvement. And at higher levels you can skip steps 1 and/or 2.

[jak3676]

I was really surprised to see the OP had the priest taking Holy Nova (HN) so late in the build (L53). I don't know if this is because I'm doing WMMMP instead of MMMMP, or maybe I'm doing something wrong and I'll realize it later (currently L42, still farming SM:Cath), but I'm really relying on using a ton of HN.


For my AOE pulls, I toss a PW:shield on my tank and use him to gather all mobs by facepulling & shouting. Once I have the mobs gathered, I cast flamestrike on each of 3 mages (which generally pulls aggro off the tank). Then I spam Arcane Explosion and HN, while trying to taunt or sunder armor with my warrior until everything is dead.


It generally works very well, but leveling through my 20's and 30's I had 2 problems. 1) my priest was pulling healing aggro during the pull and 2) I was running out of mana on my priest long before my mages, and long before everything was dead


The 1st issue was easy to fix by making sure to do the initial PW:Shield while out of combat, before charging in - then limiting any healing until flamestrikes begin dropping. PW:S causes aggro when the spell is cast, not when it actually prevents damage. So if you cast it out of combat, before the pull, then there's no healing aggro during the pull. I know this is generally considered bad for tanking as the PW:S robs the tank of rage, but when I'm just face pulling anyway and I'm controlling all the dps it works fine. For similar reasons, it's fine to cast renew on my tank before a single target pull (e.g a boss), but I learned not to cast renew at all during an AOE pull, as renew causes healing aggro as soon as it ticks.


I've learned that my ability to AOE pull mobs is effectively limited to my tanks effective health + precombat shield. I run around and gather mobs until my tank is below 50% health, and then by the time he's below 25% health I need to have my mage AOE and HN going off. I can extend this a bit with a potion on my tank if needed, but doing any healing when surrounded by a 6-12 mobs, before the mages go off just leads to priest death and a run back.


I had initially tried 5/5 Silent Resolve (20% reduced threat) on my priest to reduce healing aggro, and 3/3 Imp Inner Fire (more armor) as well as stacking more stam to survive the hits, but that didn't work. It wasn't a matter of my healer generating more threat per second than my other chars it was a matter of several mobs not having any aggro on them other than the face pull aggro from the tank. Now that I've fixed my pulling mechanics, I've gone from pulling aggro with my healer and trying to survive it, to having 0 aggro from my healer (Holy Nova causes no aggro) and never getting hit.


To fix the oom issue I tried a few things, but the ultimate solution was to stack more Int and fix my priest talents. I initially thought I wanted more regen so I tried 5/5 Spirit Tap, but that does not help at all as the amount of time in combat is very short - so even when it procs regularly, it doesn't actually increase the amount of mana available for HN.


To increase mana on the priest you manly need to focus on +int gear. This was initially a challenge fore me as I felt I also needed more stam due to my aggro issue. But once I fixed my aggro issue I was able to drop stam in favor of more int for my priest. (This also let me focus any +stam cloth to my mages as they can actually drop some int to get more stam as they seem to have plenty of mana for their AOE rotation.) I was also then free to drop Silent Resolve and Imp Inner fire.


I swapped my priest talents around to look like this:
https://www.bobo-talents.com/?c=priest&t=vYv4vUvQv0v1v2v3wgv9BfvhvMvNvOvPvrvvvqvwvxvtvgvC vDvivfvEvFvGvHDeDfDgDhDiC-DaDbDcDdpv


I had always thought of Inner Focus as a dps boost, but I think my main benefit is a free HN. 5/5 Mental Agility and 5/5 Mental Strength also seem key to get more HN. This build does get to Power Infusion much later than the OP's build, but I haven't really seen a need for it yet. In fact I think I'm going to macro PI+IF to HN as an "Oh $#!%" instant heal & dps button. I'm already finding that during the pull, I'm better off casting another holy nova than I am stopping that to toss a shield/flash heal on whichever mage has aggro.


For boss pulls, I give my tank a second to get aggro, then have my mages just chain casting fireballs while my priest is either 1) doing nothing, 2) casting smite, 3) casting low level head on my tank. With an actual warrior tanking (even with a 2H in Arms spec) bosses are much lower risk than AOE packs. I don't think I've ever wiped on a boss, unless I completely messed up a mechanic (forgot to stop the kids from running into Herod in SM:Armory or ignoring LoS on Argual in SFK).


Up through Herod I had my priest casing Lesser Heal (Rank 3) on my tank every time my mages cast fireball. Herod made me switch to Heal (Rank 1) which is still a lot of overhealing, but I can spam that all day. I'm sure I'll bump that up to Rank 2 & 3 eventually, but I don't really see any need to do anything to improve my single target healing throughput or regen.

[Torgo]

I consider Holy Nova the MVS (most valuable spell) in my WMMMP team. The best thing about it is that it has a huge range and you can kill runners with it. It has saved me countless wipes by taking out runners, you just save Holy Nova spam until the mobs are mostly dead.

[jak3676]

L30-42 Scarlet Monastery: I mostly followed the OP's guide. Every level I kept thinking that it'd more exp/hour if I jumped up 1 instance - but then I'd run slower so I'd drop back down to the easier instance until I got to the OP's recommendation. My only real deviation was that I started running SM:Armory at L37 to get the 2H Axe for my Warrior. At L37 this was actually less exp/hour than I was getting in the Library, but I did eventually get my Axe which he used all the way through ZF.

L43 Razorfen Downs: I ran RFD a few times. Running the dungeon all the way through the 1st time for quests was terrible in terms of exp/hour. It may be OK at 41 or 42 if you get tired of SM:Cathedral early, but it will be less exp/hour. But after my 1st time through I switched to taking the 1st right when you enter the instance and just running up the spire to the end boss. That was ~30k exp/hour which wasn't terrible and it got me the Robes of the Lich on each of my casters. I would have locked out if I tried to run it more than 5 times as I was clearing the whole thing in about 7 min.

L43-45 & 47-49 Zul Farrak: I see some people saying that L43-44 is too low for ZF, but it was really good exp/hour and generally quite safe to clear up to the scarab room and then farm all the zombies + boss. Just don't bother with the other bosses until you're at least L45 though. One piece I am kicking myself for failing to realize earlier is that you can mount up to pull and gather mobs - that really makes it more efficient.

L46-47 Hinterlands: I made the mistake of trying to do the Jin'tha Alor elite quests too early. I started up the hill at L46 and dinged 47 on all toons before I got to the top. The climb was OK, just a little slow. But once you get to the top you need to kill Vile Priestess Hexx (L51) she has a big heal you need to interrupt and at L47 my counterspells kept missing. I really should have waited until L48 at the minimum if not L49.

Professions:
In terms of making gold, I highly recommend having Enchanting on one of your chars once you start Armory. With only 1 skill point in Enchanting you can Disenchant everything. Starting with Herod and Cathedral the blues DE to small radiant shards which are worth ~4g each. So once you have the gear you need, just have your enchanter loot all the BoP blues. Don't bother DEing the greens from anywhere in SM - you're better off just vendoring them. However, once you get to ZF you're generally better off to DE all the greens you get (more gold and more bag space).

SM is also great for leveling herbalism. Every wing in SM always has at least 1 herb - often multiple. I was up to 260 skill in herbalism by the time I left. Herbing also gave my tank something to do for a few seconds in between pulls while the Mages and Priest were drinking.

You will get piles of Silk and Mageweave with all the SM and ZF runs. I leveled 4 casters up to 260 tailoring skill just from these runs. At 260 you can start making Mooncloth on cool down. There really isn't a good use for all the extra silk you'll get, and there's nothing worth crafting to vendor or disenchant from all the silk either - you're best off turning it all into heavy silk bandages to vendor (something else you can have your tank do while the mages are drinking.) The Mageweave is at least worth auctioning or can be turned into bags for a small profit. I recommend getting all the skillups from making Mageweave bags as you can, although once you get to 260 skill you can start doing Runecloth bags which along with Mooncloth will take you all the way to 300 tailoring skill.

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L49-50: Did 1 Mara run for quest rewards and some tank gear - fricken hated it. 4 wipes? 5? The big flowers on the orange side do an AOE stun. The slimes cannot be AE'd - can't get within melee range. The dinosaurs have an AOE silence and there's a fair number of pats. Mara has to be the worst run back in the game. And to make it worse, if you're doing a run from the scepter portal, then have your healer die - you have to run in to orange or purple side 1st to res, then run back around to the portal. Ugh! All of my problems could have been prevented if I knew what I should have been doing ahead of time. Exp/hr started off in the 50k+ range which was better than I was doing in ZF but it went to @#$! once I started wiping. Once was enough for me. Got the warrior his ring on the 1st drop. Never doing that one again. Gold/hour was worse in Mara than it was in ZF.

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L50-51: Did all the class quests and then ST 1 time for quest rewards. The travel required for all class quests was really slow and probably not worth it, but I felt like a noob running around with the Mara tank trinket on all my casters (but I didn't have any other trinkets yet). As others said the troll circle in ST is pretty good exp/hour and likely worth doing in its own right. I was easily sustaining 50-60k/hour, just dropped lower when I did the bosses. At L51, I could not "solo" the last dragon. He'd just sleep my tank and then kill a dps. By the time I woke up and taunted he'd just sleep me again and kill another mage. I wiped and tried again with the same result, but didn't really need the kill, so I just skipped. Gold/hour was also worse in ST than it was in ZF - so tired of all the mageweave. Only reason I didn't stay and farm ST longer was that I wanted to get to BRD early.

L52-55 BRD Prison and RoL: Wow is Gor'Shek farm awesome exp/hour! Easily over 80k/hour, even with looting. But at 52 and 53 I was getting some random mage deaths that would drop me down to 50-60k/hour. I do get bored with just grinding easily, so I experimented with prison farm which was 50-60k/hour and then some progression through BRD. The ring of law has been easy enough, so I'll add that to my farm route. I did all the lower BRD quest lines at 52 & 53, but that was even lower exp/hour. At 52 I couldn't do Angerforge yet, will try again once I get to 54. Heal rank 2 is still proving to be enough and very efficient tank healing spam. I did need to re-spec my tank for better single target threat, using a 2H in Arms spec wasn't cutting it anymore. But a 1H+Shield and a proper tank spec (11/5/XX) and he's doing great. The gold & cloth is great - finally better than what I was doing in ZF. With the last rank of AE at L54, it really does speed up even more.

L55-57 BRD Back 1/2: I was getting so tired of the Gor'Shek farm - it's good exp and g/hour, but so fricking boring. I think I'd subconsciously, accidentally, let him die after 10 iterations or so just so I could do something else. I was adding in the Ring of Law and Prymancer Lorgrain at L52 a, then Angerforge at L54, Golem at L55, and Grim Guzzler at L55 also (killing all the patrons is decent exp). Bael'Gar, The Vault and Incendius were easy enough at L55, but not worth repeating - lower exp/hour. About L57 I was pushing all the way to the end, but having problems with positioning on Magmus. I had all the numbers, but not the skill to save the Princess at 57 or 58 (I really need to set up round-robin for counterspell, but I've been lazy) The back 1/2 of BRD was a nice break to do something different, but it was 1/2 the exp as I was getting with all the dwarves up front.

L57 DM:E: Being tired of BRD, I went over to DM:E for a change of pace. I enjoyed the run, but it was terribly slow, wiped once pulling too many trees. Exp and Gold per hour were 1/2 what I was doing in BRD, but I got the key and did all the class book>trinket quests. I'll need to figure out how to farm this faster later as DM:E jump runs are supposed to be quite profitable. I just wasn't seeing it at L57.

L58-60 LBRS: I jumped into LBRS at L58 and was immediately back to doing 80k+ exp/hour farming the Orbs. The mobs are positioned better for easier clearing than they are in the back 1/2 of BRD. The ogres go a bit slower. I haven't gotten any great drops, but it does seem like every clear I'm getting a handful of 5-20g blues that sell quickly. LBRS has been great gold/hour - well over 100g/hour. Gear upgrades seemed nice also.

60+, I still need gear from just about every dungeon. But I finished my 1-60 grind with over 1000g in the bank. On one hand I'm happy to be "done" so now I can start playing the "real game". On the other hand I'm already thinking about doing it over again. I checked my /played and I'm already over 12 days, but at least 1/2 of that is me sitting around trying to figure out control, making macro's, etc.

[excepter]

How to possible 10 - 30 leveling route with MMMMM?

[nodoze]

How to possible 10 - 30 leveling route with MMMMM?If you stay with 5M you may have trouble following this guide which is designed around 4MP.

Most people multiboxing are leveling in instances 10+ but those teams typically have a healer in it. If you are not level 10 yet (or just barely level 10ish) it may be better in the long run to go from 5M to 4MP so you have a Healer (shield+fort help alot with mages).

If you are going to stay 5M and having trouble with instances you may want to try to farm HyperSpawns (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j6tc7Bi0WNN_NbplgM1mbKcJkv89c4EhbYDN18vuYA4/edit#gid=1905033222) but that will likely be slower than instances. Hyperspawns can also be painful on a PVP server (especially if controlled by the other faction).

[Feomatar]

Thanks for the guide. How long does it take to level up for each level interval? 1-10, 10-20, 20-30, 30-40, 40-50, 50-60 ?

[Thunderkoww]

The Doan is quite simple,you drag him out of his room, whilst placing your mages in front of him (near the 2 pillars in the hall before his room) and placing your disc behind mages (and out of reach of silence).

Then, when he silences your mages, you can simply dispel them and when he does his nova you just line of sight now with entire team by following your priest, then you simply step backwards with your mages and with your priest you go across mages and finish him off.

Then it's matter of time before he dies.

I'm running the classic WMMMP and I found the easiest way was to leave all my casters in the little threshold and to have my warrior charge, sunder, and then pull Doan near to his lockbox. From there, your casters can fireball/pyro/heal and never get silenced. I found that 1 in 10 times the warrior gets sheeped near the end, and 4/10 times the healer gets sheeped. This never caused a wipe.

[jak3676]

@Feomater that can really vary quite a bit based on the individual - especially how much you want to just do the dungeon mob grind vs boss fights (bosses are about the loot, but never good exp/hour). I found a lot of my own time taking my 1st group from 1-60 was spent learning how to control everyone, what sort of spells & "rotation" was needed, etc. If I followed the exact same path again I'd expect I could do it in 1/2 - 1/4 the time it took on round 1 (even with the recent Gor'Shek nerf).

I don't recall how fast I did 1-12, but it was quick - 1 afternoon session. Once I got into RFC and figured out what I was doing (took a run or two to learn the pulls and re-keymap just about everything) I was in the 20k/hour area. I left early to to WC, but that was a loss of exp/hour. In BRD and SFK I was just a bit below 30k/hour when I wasn't making mistakes. Once I got to SM, my exp/hour just about exactly matched my level - i.e. 30k/hour when I started at L30 and got up to just over 40k/hour when I left at L41. ZF was a nice bump up to nearly 50k/hour - even when I was just doing zombies and scarabs when I started at L43. ST can be 60k/hour if you just do the mob grind at level 50-52. BRD is an easy 60-80k/hour doing the prison and ring of law farms. LBRS at L58+ had me over 80k/hour doing the orc & troll sections - slower in the ogre area and once I got the spider parts.

[Peregrine]

I'm running the classic WMMMP and I found the easiest way was to leave all my casters in the little threshold and to have my warrior charge, sunder, and then pull Doan near to his lockbox. From there, your casters can fireball/pyro/heal and never get silenced. I found that 1 in 10 times the warrior gets sheeped near the end, and 4/10 times the healer gets sheeped. This never caused a wipe.

There is a difference in running a WMMMP as opposed to MMMMP, however this guide is not 100% buletproof, it's from my research what are best routes after reaching lv 1-60 in mere 5 days or something after I have leveled WWWWP beforehand and tested things.

There is always room for adaptation, however from my personal exp this is extremly fast leveling process if you follow this guide and have some extra gold to spend on some items, mainly the starter items.

I'll most likely make a BC arena pvp guide and leveling guide/solo guide for SSSSP or SSSSS given I have experience, might pair up with Kruschpak for 5vs5 as he has more xp with pvp boxing (i am more of arena junkie 3vs3/2vs2/).

[xHaplo]

For those still around, the talents (from old bobo) translated to wowhead links :
Mage: https://www.wowhead.com/classic/talent-calc/mage/2500052310211531-0550003123
Priest: https://www.wowhead.com/classic/talent-calc/priest/505230033005151-205051032

For the more technically inclined, and incase wowhead dies (here you can also see the level at which to take the talent as per authors recommendation)...

Mage:
Talent ID 1041: Tab = 1, Index = 2, Rank = 1, Level = 10
Talent ID 1204: Tab = 1, Index = 2, Rank = 2, Level = 11
Talent ID 1205: Tab = 1, Index = 2, Rank = 3, Level = 12
Talent ID 1206: Tab = 1, Index = 2, Rank = 4, Level = 13
Talent ID 1207: Tab = 1, Index = 2, Rank = 5, Level = 14
Talent ID 1040: Tab = 1, Index = 6, Rank = 1, Level = 15
Talent ID 1130: Tab = 1, Index = 6, Rank = 2, Level = 16
Talent ID 1131: Tab = 1, Index = 6, Rank = 3, Level = 17
Talent ID 1132: Tab = 1, Index = 6, Rank = 4, Level = 18
Talent ID 1133: Tab = 1, Index = 6, Rank = 5, Level = 19
Talent ID 2304: Tab = 1, Index = 9, Rank = 1, Level = 20
Talent ID 1044: Tab = 1, Index = 8, Rank = 1, Level = 21
Talent ID 1111: Tab = 1, Index = 8, Rank = 2, Level = 22
Talent ID 1112: Tab = 1, Index = 8, Rank = 3, Level = 23
Talent ID 1045: Tab = 1, Index = 7, Rank = 1, Level = 24
Talent ID 1137: Tab = 1, Index = 7, Rank = 2, Level = 25
Talent ID 1047: Tab = 1, Index = 11, Rank = 1, Level = 26
Talent ID 1135: Tab = 1, Index = 11, Rank = 2, Level = 27
Talent ID 1039: Tab = 1, Index = 1, Rank = 1, Level = 28
Talent ID 1134: Tab = 1, Index = 1, Rank = 2, Level = 29
Talent ID 1042: Tab = 1, Index = 14, Rank = 1, Level = 30
Talent ID 1122: Tab = 1, Index = 14, Rank = 2, Level = 31
Talent ID 1123: Tab = 1, Index = 14, Rank = 3, Level = 32
Talent ID 1124: Tab = 1, Index = 14, Rank = 4, Level = 33
Talent ID 1054: Tab = 1, Index = 13, Rank = 1, Level = 34
Talent ID 1125: Tab = 1, Index = 14, Rank = 5, Level = 35
Talent ID 1455: Tab = 1, Index = 15, Rank = 1, Level = 36
Talent ID 1456: Tab = 1, Index = 15, Rank = 2, Level = 37
Talent ID 1457: Tab = 1, Index = 15, Rank = 3, Level = 38
Talent ID 1905: Tab = 1, Index = 12, Rank = 1, Level = 39
Talent ID 1053: Tab = 1, Index = 16, Rank = 1, Level = 40
Talent ID 1021: Tab = 2, Index = 2, Rank = 1, Level = 41
Talent ID 1101: Tab = 2, Index = 2, Rank = 2, Level = 42
Talent ID 1102: Tab = 2, Index = 2, Rank = 3, Level = 43
Talent ID 1103: Tab = 2, Index = 2, Rank = 4, Level = 44
Talent ID 1104: Tab = 2, Index = 2, Rank = 5, Level = 45
Talent ID 1025: Tab = 2, Index = 3, Rank = 1, Level = 46
Talent ID 1026: Tab = 2, Index = 3, Rank = 2, Level = 47
Talent ID 1208: Tab = 2, Index = 3, Rank = 3, Level = 48
Talent ID 1209: Tab = 2, Index = 3, Rank = 4, Level = 49
Talent ID 1210: Tab = 2, Index = 3, Rank = 5, Level = 50
Talent ID 1048: Tab = 2, Index = 8, Rank = 1, Level = 51
Talent ID 1017: Tab = 2, Index = 9, Rank = 1, Level = 52
Talent ID 1099: Tab = 2, Index = 9, Rank = 2, Level = 53
Talent ID 1022: Tab = 2, Index = 7, Rank = 1, Level = 54
Talent ID 1097: Tab = 2, Index = 7, Rank = 2, Level = 55
Talent ID 1098: Tab = 2, Index = 7, Rank = 3, Level = 56
Talent ID 1019: Tab = 2, Index = 10, Rank = 1, Level = 57
Talent ID 1222: Tab = 2, Index = 10, Rank = 2, Level = 58
Talent ID 1223: Tab = 2, Index = 10, Rank = 3, Level = 59



Priest:
Talent ID 1393: Tab = 1, Index = 1, Rank = 1, Level = 10
Talent ID 1424: Tab = 1, Index = 1, Rank = 2, Level = 11
Talent ID 1425: Tab = 1, Index = 1, Rank = 3, Level = 12
Talent ID 1426: Tab = 1, Index = 1, Rank = 4, Level = 13
Talent ID 1427: Tab = 1, Index = 1, Rank = 5, Level = 14
Talent ID 1403: Tab = 1, Index = 4, Rank = 1, Level = 15
Talent ID 1407: Tab = 1, Index = 4, Rank = 2, Level = 16
Talent ID 1402: Tab = 1, Index = 5, Rank = 1, Level = 17
Talent ID 1408: Tab = 1, Index = 5, Rank = 2, Level = 18
Talent ID 1409: Tab = 1, Index = 5, Rank = 3, Level = 19
Talent ID 1394: Tab = 1, Index = 3, Rank = 1, Level = 20
Talent ID 1420: Tab = 1, Index = 3, Rank = 2, Level = 21
Talent ID 1421: Tab = 1, Index = 3, Rank = 3, Level = 22
Talent ID 1422: Tab = 1, Index = 3, Rank = 4, Level = 23
Talent ID 1423: Tab = 1, Index = 3, Rank = 5, Level = 24
Talent ID 1392: Tab = 1, Index = 8, Rank = 1, Level = 25
Talent ID 1414: Tab = 1, Index = 8, Rank = 2, Level = 26
Talent ID 1415: Tab = 1, Index = 8, Rank = 3, Level = 27
Talent ID 1401: Tab = 1, Index = 9, Rank = 1, Level = 28
Talent ID 1410: Tab = 1, Index = 9, Rank = 2, Level = 29
Talent ID 1406: Tab = 1, Index = 13, Rank = 1, Level = 30
Talent ID 1918: Tab = 1, Index = 12, Rank = 1, Level = 31
Talent ID 1919: Tab = 1, Index = 12, Rank = 2, Level = 32
Talent ID 1920: Tab = 1, Index = 12, Rank = 3, Level = 33
Talent ID 1921: Tab = 1, Index = 12, Rank = 4, Level = 34
Talent ID 1922: Tab = 1, Index = 12, Rank = 5, Level = 35
Talent ID 1913: Tab = 1, Index = 14, Rank = 1, Level = 36
Talent ID 1914: Tab = 1, Index = 14, Rank = 2, Level = 37
Talent ID 1915: Tab = 1, Index = 14, Rank = 3, Level = 38
Talent ID 1916: Tab = 1, Index = 14, Rank = 4, Level = 39
Talent ID 1011: Tab = 1, Index = 15, Rank = 1, Level = 40
Talent ID 1436: Tab = 2, Index = 1, Rank = 1, Level = 41
Talent ID 1442: Tab = 2, Index = 1, Rank = 2, Level = 42
Talent ID 1428: Tab = 2, Index = 3, Rank = 1, Level = 43
Talent ID 1438: Tab = 2, Index = 3, Rank = 2, Level = 44
Talent ID 1439: Tab = 2, Index = 3, Rank = 3, Level = 45
Talent ID 1440: Tab = 2, Index = 3, Rank = 4, Level = 46
Talent ID 1441: Tab = 2, Index = 3, Rank = 5, Level = 47
Talent ID 1908: Tab = 2, Index = 5, Rank = 1, Level = 48
Talent ID 1909: Tab = 2, Index = 5, Rank = 2, Level = 49
Talent ID 1910: Tab = 2, Index = 5, Rank = 3, Level = 50
Talent ID 1911: Tab = 2, Index = 5, Rank = 4, Level = 51
Talent ID 1912: Tab = 2, Index = 5, Rank = 5, Level = 52
Talent ID 1458: Tab = 2, Index = 6, Rank = 1, Level = 53
Talent ID 1429: Tab = 2, Index = 8, Rank = 1, Level = 54
Talent ID 1501: Tab = 2, Index = 8, Rank = 2, Level = 55
Talent ID 2291: Tab = 2, Index = 9, Rank = 1, Level = 56
Talent ID 2292: Tab = 2, Index = 9, Rank = 2, Level = 57
Talent ID 1502: Tab = 2, Index = 8, Rank = 3, Level = 58
Talent ID 1917: Tab = 1, Index = 14, Rank = 5, Level = 59
Talent ID 1411: Tab = 1, Index = 9, Rank = 3, Level = 60



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