Hunter IWT melee?

[Kraxx]

Hi,

is there any way to use IWT to get in melee range for a hunter?
Doesn't matter if a bow is equipped or not - the hunter always stops in max range distance.

So isn't it possible to spam IWT /Raptor strike?

Thx

[Mercbeast]

Nope. IWT acts differently for different classes. For hunters IWT just runs into bow range.

Maybe, try removing your bow/ammo tho? Maybe that will change it?

[Purpleflavor]

no it doesnt even work in retail, it's just the way hunters were coded it'll never change. Best to just set them to follow and walk them all the way in.

[The Crowd]

Why on earth do you want to bring hunters into melee, they do hot garbage figures of melee damage and the only reason you even run through someone is to try and proc on wingclip to root them and let you get to range! I currently run 4hunters /1shammy and the only time I’ve ever wanted to get close is when a hunter draws Agro, feign death fails, and I have to run him to the Pets so the other hunters can nuke down what he drew Agro on!

[Kraxx]

Why on earth do you want to bring hunters into melee, they do hot garbage figures of melee damage and the only reason you even run through someone is to try and proc on wingclip to root them and let you get to range! I currently run 4hunters /1shammy and the only time I’ve ever wanted to get close is when a hunter draws Agro, feign death fails, and I have to run him to the Pets so the other hunters can nuke down what he drew Agro on!

Ehm - pet doesn't hold aggro of a warrior/rogue/aoe-mage in pvp :cool:

5 hunter with raptor strike and (working) IWT-spam would easily kill any melee

Thx

[Mercbeast]

They still turn to attack, they just won't chase anyone.

[EaTCarbS]

When I was experimenting with hunters I quickly decided that they would be an awful pvp team because of deadzone. I just cant see anyone controlling all of them in the same manner that makes a single box hunter effective.

[The Crowd]

Ehm - pet doesn't hold aggro of a warrior/rogue/aoe-mage in pvp :cool:

5 hunter with raptor strike and (working) IWT-spam would easily kill any melee

Thx

This is where you gotta rely on your big red kitties and intimidation while running the hell away! Honestly as someone boxing hunters I can’t foresee any positive outcome from attempting to pvp with them unless I’m standing in a big damn raid and hiding in numbers. The classic dead zone makes them super easy to counter regardless. Our built in disadvantages as a boxer are just magnified by it!

[Mercbeast]

Hunters would actually probably be pretty brutal, if you played them a certain way, that certain way is to, basically stay out of range of everyone and everything, and use a brokentooth deathball to kill people. It would work in WPvP outside of zergs. Just don't get caught by mounted people, and if you do, make sure you can drop a mine field of snare/iceblock traps behind you lol as you skeedaddle for the hills while your cats massacre everything.

[The Crowd]

I got so bored camping BT I gave up after two, and then was when you could layer hop. I parked my hunters around the spawns and just jumped layers.
ive found the best combo of pets is actually 2 BT and a fleshripper on 3 BM hunters, and a MM hunter with wolf for true shot aura and furious howl. The screech BM with the fleshripper is Spec as MT and the two broken tooth are off tanks, I drive from the marksman hunter and heal with a shaman. For PVE that combo just afk/auto shoots it’s way through every instance so far, with only scholo creating slight problems due to deadzones with tight corners / sight lines.

For pvp if it’s a mana user attacks me he gets 4xviper stings and a 4 imp conc shot, one nearly always proc’s. If it’s a mage who blinks into me he gets a scatter shot and i use intimadation and another round of viper shots and I get to max distance at this point they are nearly always oom.

if it’s a warrior or rogue then it’s big red birds and kittie time and just hope I can outheal him before he kills one of my toons.
for a paladin I usually spam stings and hope they’re stupid enough to keep cleansing themselves.

[Mercbeast]

BT is just a good high DPS pet. For PvE, yea, I wouldn't even bother with BT tbh. I'd run 1 carrion bird, and 3 or 4 wolves. Put the wolves furious howl on round robin in my DPS rotation. Carrion bird is your "tank", wolves round robin furious howl. Camp your hunters inside the aoe buff range while dpsing, and enjoy a little deeps boost.

[The Crowd]

All cats put out the exact same dps, it’s just BT’s 1.0 attack speed means that even if he misses a few attacks he’s still gonna build threat higher in a constant rate where as wolfs with their 2.? Attack speed if they miss the first attack a lot of the times the mob is in your dead zone before it gets Agro. As a result if I was going to drop a pet it would actually be the wolf for another BT... also if your considering doing 4 hunters, The most important piece of information I can give you is if you spec imp hunters mark 5/5 on one and 4/5 on another and 3/5 on the next and finally 2/5 on the last you can actually get 4 hunters marks up one target if you cast them all at the exact same time... combine that with strength of earth totem and grace of air. You could be in actual greys and still mow down PVE instances

[Mercbeast]

All cats put out the exact same dps, it’s just BT’s 1.0 attack speed means that even if he misses a few attacks he’s still gonna build threat higher in a constant rate where as wolfs with their 2.? Attack speed if they miss the first attack a lot of the times the mob is in your dead zone before it gets Agro. As a result if I was going to drop a pet it would actually be the wolf for another BT... also if your considering doing 4 hunters, The most important piece of information I can give you is if you spec imp hunters mark 5/5 on one and 4/5 on another and 3/5 on the next and finally 2/5 on the last you can actually get 4 hunters marks up one target if you cast them all at the exact same time... combine that with strength of earth totem and grace of air. You could be in actual greys and still mow down PVE instances

Yes. BT is a good PvE dps/anti caster pet. I'm the guy who linked that hunters mark bug in these forums :). Point was with 4 or 5 pets, BT is basically irrelevant, if you could get BT, yea, but you don't NEED BT to spam pushbacks on casters.

[The Crowd]

I didn’t even know you had linked it! I only found out because I didn’t have the gold to update hunters mark while leveling except for one hunter And I bought the spells with mouse broadcast so I didn’t even know I didn’t have it... so when I cast it next mob I got two hunters marks and couldn’t figure out why until I realized I hadn’t bought it on one hunter, so I respeced another one to see if that also affected it and it did... cool

[Peregrine]

Yes. BT is a good PvE dps/anti caster pet. I'm the guy who linked that hunters mark bug in these forums :). Point was with 4 or 5 pets, BT is basically irrelevant, if you could get BT, yea, but you don't NEED BT to spam pushbacks on casters.

it has been posted by Blizz that Hunter's mark actually stack (different ranks)

[Mercbeast]

it has been posted by Blizz that Hunter's mark actually stack (different ranks)

That's not the bug.

The bug is that because of spell batching, you can put 5, maybe 6 MAX rank hunters marks on a single target. By having different levels in the hunters mark talent 1-5/5, you can stack those.

If you do it sequentially, they don't stack. If you do it all at once, they stack.

(Edit, I assume this bug is because of spell batching).

[MiRai]

The topic from the original post was about the Hunter class and how it works when using Interact with Target. The question has been answered, and I would rather not de-rail this into a "Hunters are bad in PvP" or a general "Hunter mechanics" thread. If anyone wishes to further discuss Hunters, and how to play them, please open a new thread.