Any tips on transitioning to BRD?

[Thegreatconductor]

My team was Resto Druid and 4x mages all level 52 and based on comments here I thought this would be tough without a tank and it certainly was. I changed tactics to Feral Druid tank (52) with 3x mages (52) and Holy Paladin (60). This works better but I'm still struggling with a few things and I'm guessing I'm doing something wrong.

1. When the tank is at about 60% I cast holy light with the paladin and immediately get agro on some of the secondary targets. Since the Paladin is behind me I have to turn my back to the other mobs which makes me take more damage. This is even with blessing of salvation on the mages and paladin.
2. When a dwarf gets low they run which is a real mess if they run behind my mages so they can no longer cast without me re-positioning.

Any tips would be much appreciated from positioning to how I should pull and what abilities I should be using etc. Please help!

[Earshy]

My team was Resto Druid and 4x mages all level 52 and based on comments here I thought this would be tough without a tank and it certainly was. I changed tactics to Feral Druid tank (52) with 3x mages (52) and Holy Paladin (60). This works better but I'm still struggling with a few things and I'm guessing I'm doing something wrong.

1. When the tank is at about 60% I cast holy light with the paladin and immediately get agro on some of the secondary targets. Since the Paladin is behind me I have to turn my back to the other mobs which makes me take more damage. This is even with blessing of salvation on the mages and paladin.
2. When a dwarf gets low they run which is a real mess if they run behind my mages so they can no longer cast without me re-positioning.

Any tips would be much appreciated from positioning to how I should pull and what abilities I should be using etc. Please help!

My tip regarding BRD at 52 is to stay in ST until 54 or 55. At 54 on my WPMMM group I was pulling 40k+ per hour sustained XP. I would start by entering the middle-left hall, fight my way up and then around that circle (it's full of trolls), then kill one balcony boss and jump down to the dragons, clear all of the circular room and the south hall (including Morphaz and Hazzas, then run out and reset. This was all done by pulling small groups (either one or two packs) and arcane explosioning them down while spot healing with my priest. The warrior did very little of anything during my later levels in ST. Now at 55, (well, 56 now, but started at 55), I'm doing what I believe are called "Torch Runs" in BRD. It involves accepting then canceling and repeating a quest that gives you infinite 6-spawns of 50-56 elite mobs without resetting the instance. That's how I would transition to BRD.

[Homer]

My tip regarding BRD at 52 is to stay in ST until 54 or 55. At 54 on my WPMMM group I was pulling 40k+ per hour sustained XP. I would start by entering the middle-left hall, fight my way up and then around that circle (it's full of trolls), then kill one balcony boss and jump down to the dragons, clear all of the circular room and the south hall (including Morphaz and Hazzas, then run out and reset. This was all done by pulling small groups (either one or two packs) and arcane explosioning them down while spot healing with my priest. The warrior did very little of anything during my later levels in ST. Now at 55, (well, 56 now, but started at 55), I'm doing what I believe are called "Torch Runs" in BRD. It involves accepting then canceling and repeating a quest that gives you infinite 6-spawns of 50-56 elite mobs without resetting the instance. That's how I would transition to BRD.

Torch runs weren't hotfixed?

[nodoze]

My team was Resto Druid and 4x mages all level 52 and based on comments here I thought this would be tough without a tank and it certainly was. I changed tactics to Feral Druid tank (52) with 3x mages (52) and Holy Paladin (60). This works better but I'm still struggling with a few things and I'm guessing I'm doing something wrong.

1. When the tank is at about 60% I cast holy light with the paladin and immediately get agro on some of the secondary targets. Since the Paladin is behind me I have to turn my back to the other mobs which makes me take more damage. This is even with blessing of salvation on the mages and paladin.
2. When a dwarf gets low they run which is a real mess if they run behind my mages so they can no longer cast without me re-positioning.

Any tips would be much appreciated from positioning to how I should pull and what abilities I should be using etc. Please help!Tank & push AoE threat with the Level 60 Paladin. Try to heal as much as possible from the Paladin and use the Druid to innervate the Paladin and off-heal. Try to round-robin freeze the dwarfs with the mages and Judge any that try to run with the Seal of Justice (they will stop fleeing and even come back to fight you).

If you have a second Paladin in your back pocket heal with it and have it put Blessing of Salvation on itself and the Mages so the Tanking Paladin can spam Greater Blessing of Kings on the 3 Mages in the unlikely event that he loses aggro.

[Earshy]

Torch runs weren't hotfixed?

I may be calling it the wrong name. I'm accepting the quest "What's going on?!" then immediately canceling it, killing the wave of mobs, then repeating. It still works and is great XP.

[Peregrine]

I may be calling it the wrong name. I'm accepting the quest "What's going on?!" then immediately canceling it, killing the wave of mobs, then repeating. It still works and is great XP.

That is a prequest for saving the princess Moira! Yeah, it's great xp if you fancy that: )

[Thegreatconductor]

My tip regarding BRD at 52 is to stay in ST until 54 or 55. At 54 on my WPMMM group I was pulling 40k+ per hour sustained XP. I would start by entering the middle-left hall, fight my way up and then around that circle (it's full of trolls), then kill one balcony boss and jump down to the dragons, clear all of the circular room and the south hall (including Morphaz and Hazzas, then run out and reset. This was all done by pulling small groups (either one or two packs) and arcane explosioning them down while spot healing with my priest. The warrior did very little of anything during my later levels in ST. Now at 55, (well, 56 now, but started at 55), I'm doing what I believe are called "Torch Runs" in BRD. It involves accepting then canceling and repeating a quest that gives you infinite 6-spawns of 50-56 elite mobs without resetting the instance. That's how I would transition to BRD.

I actually hadn't done ST at all. I did ZF to 52. I respecced my druid to resto again and I got the crew into ST and it's going rather well. My normaly run into group and AE then spot heal is working so I'll stay here as you recommended. Thank you!

[Earshy]

I actually hadn't done ST at all. I did ZF to 52. I respecced my druid to resto again and I got the crew into ST and it's going rather well. My normaly run into group and AE then spot heal is working so I'll stay here as you recommended. Thank you!

Glad to hear that's working out for ya'!


That is a prequest for saving the princess Moira! Yeah, it's great xp if you fancy that: )

What i really like about it is that the npc's that spawn for the quest don't kick or bash my healer at all. No spells. It's just straight melee and very easy to manage. I consistently do one pull every 45-50 seconds or so. It's mind-numbing, but I don't see an easier way to get to 57 or 58 :D.

[Thegreatconductor]

My tip regarding BRD at 52 is to stay in ST until 54 or 55. At 54 on my WPMMM group I was pulling 40k+ per hour sustained XP. I would start by entering the middle-left hall, fight my way up and then around that circle (it's full of trolls), then kill one balcony boss and jump down to the dragons, clear all of the circular room and the south hall (including Morphaz and Hazzas, then run out and reset. This was all done by pulling small groups (either one or two packs) and arcane explosioning them down while spot healing with my priest. The warrior did very little of anything during my later levels in ST. Now at 55, (well, 56 now, but started at 55), I'm doing what I believe are called "Torch Runs" in BRD. It involves accepting then canceling and repeating a quest that gives you infinite 6-spawns of 50-56 elite mobs without resetting the instance. That's how I would transition to BRD.

When you do these torch runs are you doing the same thing as far as AE and spot healing or do you need to use the warrior as a proper tank to get agro etc?

[Earshy]

When you do these torch runs are you doing the same thing as far as AE and spot healing or do you need to use the warrior as a proper tank to get agro etc?

The warrior has become pretty useless actually, and I've found myself wishing I had a 4th mage or a warlock instead of him for 90% of the content I'm doing right now. I do pull with him, but I'm starting AoE as soon as the mobs get to me then just spot healing with the priest. It's been working better for me than gathering with the warrior and spamming demo shout long enough to get aggro, etc. The warrior has pretty much been assigned "taunt the bosses" duty ^_^. Oh, and he looks pretty cool I suppose.

EDIT: Just recorded an example pull for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INPBSPa1EUM&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INPBSPa1EUM&feature=youtu.be)

[nodoze]

I may be calling it the wrong name. I'm accepting the quest "What's going on?!" then immediately canceling it, killing the wave of mobs, then repeating. It still works and is great XP.
That is a prequest for saving the princess Moira! Yeah, it's great xp if you fancy that: )

https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=3982/what-is-going-on#comments

This looks pretty amazing for farming XP but looks to be Horde only...

I looked but could not find one on the Alliance side...

Is there an Alliance equivalent?

[Earshy]

Oh, didn't think about that. I've never played Alliance. You might be right about that one nodoze. Doing some brief Googling, I haven't seen an alternative. If that's the case, my advice regarding BRD will be irrelevant to Thegreatconductor. Oops!

[Thegreatconductor]

I may be calling it the wrong name. I'm accepting the quest "What's going on?!" then immediately canceling it, killing the wave of mobs, then repeating. It still works and is great XP.

Looks like this is a horde quest. Is there anything similar for alliance?