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evn0173
11-09-2019, 09:47 PM
My first 5 man group is 55 so I'm starting to get into BRD pretty heavy (as far as the seven) and have done a few DME tries (not the last boss yet), and I've got to say it's very challenging. That got me wondering if there are in dungeon bosses that anyone has found that they just can't get past?
Apatheist
11-10-2019, 08:14 AM
Classic dungeons are pretty much all DPS checks. If you've been gearing via dungeons as you level and you're in decent gear you should be able to clear any dungeon with almost any composition.
Composition changes how efficiently you clear and what else your team is capable of aside from just farming dungeons.
Mercbeast
11-10-2019, 08:47 PM
I'd say the closest thing to undoable I ran into, was Princess of Maraudon, at appropriate level, with 4 warriors. That was an absolute shitshow.
SonyEQ
11-10-2019, 08:51 PM
I'd say the closest thing to undoable I ran into, was Princess of Maraudon, at appropriate level, with 4 warriors. That was an absolute shitshow.
I have that fight specifically in mind and its why I'm changing up from 4 warriors + 1 shaman to 3 warriors + 2 shaman.
Mercbeast
11-10-2019, 09:29 PM
It was stupid easy when I went back at like level 58, but at level 52, it was total chaos lol.
The push back dust cloud or whatever, did way too much damage at 52, but at 58 I was able to ignore it, and I was able to kill her at 58ish well before fears became an issue due to cool downs.
Kruschpakx4
11-10-2019, 09:43 PM
That got me wondering if there are in dungeon bosses that anyone has found that they just can't get past?
princess with 5 ele shaman :D
SonyEQ
11-10-2019, 10:05 PM
It was stupid easy when I went back at like level 58, but at level 52, it was total chaos lol.
The push back dust cloud or whatever, did way too much damage at 52, but at 58 I was able to ignore it, and I was able to kill her at 58ish well before fears became an issue due to cool downs.
I might find out that I'm horribly wrong but I'm hoping that I can power through it with 2 chain heals on the 3 warriors.
Mercbeast
11-10-2019, 10:08 PM
I might find out that I'm horribly wrong but I'm hoping that I can power through it with 2 chain heals on the 3 warriors.
Just remember to leverage deathwish and berserker rage. The issue I had, was that once the fear bombs went off, my warriors went in all different directions, and once they were split up, it was impossible to pull them back to avoid the push back. My DPS simply wasn't high enough to kill her before I ran out of CDs, not that it really mattered. The push back was brutal when I tried it at 52. Two healers might be enough to help you through it, but, consider that the biggest issue I faced because of the fears and push back, was threat. My warriors simply didn't have enough uptime on Princess to get enough of a threat lead on my priest. My priest would have to dump out the healing, and this in turn caused too much threat, and then the fat witch waddled over and punched my priest out :)
nodoze
11-10-2019, 10:13 PM
Just remember to leverage deathwish and berserker rage. The issue I had, was that once the fear bombs went off, my warriors went in all different directions, and once they were split up, it was impossible to pull them back to avoid the push back. My DPS simply wasn't high enough to kill her before I ran out of CDs, not that it really mattered. The push back was brutal when I tried it at 52. Two healers might be enough to help you through it, but, consider that the biggest issue I faced because of the fears and push back, was threat. My warriors simply didn't have enough uptime on Princess to get enough of a threat lead on my priest. My priest would have to dump out the healing, and this in turn caused too much threat, and then the fat witch waddled over and punched my priest out :)Paladin healers are great because they start out at 50% less threat from healing than the other healers and then can further reduce that by 30% and if they get threat they can take a punch as good or better than the warriors. I found I needed 2 of them though while leveling either for healing per second or OOM or both depending on the fights.
SonyEQ
11-10-2019, 10:17 PM
Ok that explains it, you said priest. I was thinking that I could just tremor totem the fears, but you dont have a shaman. I'm also noticing that since Im using down ranked heals now with two shaman casting that I getting extremely less heal aggro (its almost not noticeable now) than I was with just one healer casting a max rank heal.
Homer
11-10-2019, 10:38 PM
Ok that explains it, you said priest. I was thinking that I could just tremor totem the fears, but you dont have a shaman. I'm also noticing that since Im using down ranked heals now with two shaman casting that I getting extremely less heal aggro (its almost not noticeable now) than I was with just one healer casting a max rank heal.
That's just based on splitting the heals between 2 players, the rank has no effect on aggro, its the points of healing that give aggro (Not overhealing either)
Mercbeast
11-10-2019, 10:40 PM
Tremor totems will definitely help keep things organized, but, with deathwish and berserker rage, you kind of get two get out of fear free jail cards already. Tremor totems just mean, you don't need to blow those cards.
Homer
11-10-2019, 11:07 PM
Tremor totems will definitely help keep things organized, but, with deathwish and berserker rage, you kind of get two get out of fear free jail cards already. Tremor totems just mean, you don't need to blow those cards.
Curious if deathwish/berserker making you immune to fear also means no threat wipe?
Purpleflavor
11-11-2019, 04:08 AM
princess with 5 ele shaman :D
cant you just frostshock kite her or am i forgetting something? She's so slow you could flameshock kite her too i'm sure.
strokes
11-11-2019, 11:21 AM
I'd say the closest thing to undoable I ran into, was Princess of Maraudon, at appropriate level, with 4 warriors. That was an absolute shitshow.
It took me from 52 (first time I got to her) to 56 before I was able to drop her with WWWWS.
Surprised I stuck with it tbh.
I had to use Nature res totem / tremor to get the first kills with her. You just have to position your shaman in way that you can just /follow during dust cloud to get your warriors to run back. Either that or just not move. Its not too bad when you make sure your positioning is 100% spot on.
I'd just farm RoL in BRD til 56-58 before I'd ever attempt to get 4x ring from her again.
evn0173
11-14-2019, 06:49 PM
I’m farming DME right now and the only thing I’m consistently having issues with is hydraspawn. When he knocks the team in every direction they don’t land facing him. By the time I get then half way organized I’m pretty much dead.
going to try lbrs tonight but I know those big groups might be an issue.
nodoze
11-14-2019, 07:10 PM
I’m farming DME right now and the only thing I’m consistently having issues with is hydraspawn. When he knocks the team in every direction they don’t land facing him. By the time I get then half way organized I’m pretty much dead.
going to try lbrs tonight but I know those big groups might be an issue.What classes are you running?
evn0173
11-14-2019, 07:25 PM
War, 2 mage, lock and shammy; a mix of 57:58. I’ve killed him a couple of times but it feels very random, like I was lucky my toons didn’t get knocked around or something.
Mercbeast
11-14-2019, 09:50 PM
I’m farming DME right now and the only thing I’m consistently having issues with is hydraspawn. When he knocks the team in every direction they don’t land facing him. By the time I get then half way organized I’m pretty much dead.
going to try lbrs tonight but I know those big groups might be an issue.
I'm guessing you're using casters? If so, make an IWT hotkey that uses their wand, and then taps your move backwards key. So step one, would be assist/iwt step 2 step backwards.
Your ranged guys will turn and use their wand, or run towards wand range (bow range if hunters), and then stop immediately, allowing them to face the target.
(EDIT) This doesn't actually seem to work when they are already in wand range.
evn0173
11-15-2019, 12:24 AM
I'm guessing you're using casters? If so, make an IWT hotkey that uses their wand, and then taps your move backwards key. So step one, would be assist/iwt step 2 step backwards.
Your ranged guys will turn and use their wand, or run towards wand range (bow range if hunters), and then stop immediately, allowing them to face the target.
Thanks for the input. I'm still relatively new to multiboxing so I feel like I've barely scraped the surface of what I can do to make things easier.
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