Best WPvP Phase 2 Team Comp is?

[Diwa]

What race and team comp do you think that will kill and survive more? Why?

[Peregrine]

either sl lock or mage paired with disc

[Diwa]

either sl lock or mage paired with disc

What do you think of 4 sl lock + resto shaman?

[Purpleflavor]

What race and team comp do you think that will kill and survive more? Why? Orc Shaman. They have an answer for everything.

[Madsage]

MMMMP is so much fun, I was farming level 60 players in scarlet monastery from level 38, it was usually mages who thought they could aoe me down but once they start with arcane explosion spam I just PoM Polymorph into Fireball/Fireblast and finish them and anyone else that joins the fight with arcane explosion. 4 instant polymorphs are so broken , you can reset the fight against any level 60 and kill them.

[margulda]

They don't know iceblock ?

[Madsage]

I find that Arcane is the better leveling spec, and I have gnome mages and a dwarf priest so I can deal with aoe fear and nova, I constantly keep fear ward on my characters and use escape artist and self dispel macro on priest when caught in novas.

This wrecks level 60 mages who would otherwise farm you since each time they reset with Iceblock or your team gets caught off guard you can instant polymorph up to 4 times and heal up with Prayer of Healing, then obliterate your enemies with Arcane Power and Fireball/Pyroblast/Arcane Explosion spam

[Apatheist]

Fear ward is great in PvE. Problem is in PvP it can be purged and any decent priest will always strip your buffs first before using psychic scream.

If you're arcane with improved CS, just CS the mage as you run towards them. 4x Fire blast and an arcane explosion or two should kill them while they're unable to blink or nova for 4 seconds.

[Homer]

Fear ward is great in PvE. Problem is in PvP it can be purged and any decent priest will always strip your buffs first before using psychic scream.

If you're arcane with improved CS, just CS the mage as you run towards them. 4x Fire blast and an arcane explosion or two should kill them while they're unable to blink or nova for 4 seconds.

How is a priest stripping buffs?

[Madsage]

A priest will strip one fear ward before getting insta polymoprhed or silenced for 4 seconds. Ice block is a better talent against aoe fear but I think that PoM is generally better when you have 4 mages, it allows you to defeat groups you can't just burst down and have to use cc.

Ice Block could be a good choice on horde side

[Purpleflavor]

How is a priest stripping buffs?


dispel magic.

[Apatheist]

A priest will strip one fear ward before getting insta polymoprhed or silenced for 4 seconds. Ice block is a better talent against aoe fear but I think that PoM is generally better when you have 4 mages, it allows you to defeat groups you can't just burst down and have to use cc.

Ice Block could be a good choice on horde side

I'm talking about group vs group. Obviously if you're just fighting a single priest it doesn't really matter what they do, they're not going to beat 5 characters. It's not that easy trying to get into LoS to silence a decent priest when you have the rest of his party trying to kill/CC you.

In a group setting versus competent players a priest will just sit as far back as they can and purge while healing. Then your priest will be susceptible to fear. When comparing fear ward to will of the forsaken, I think fear ward is superior in PvE but WotF is superior in PvP.

Horde mages have 4 counters to AE fear but, importantly, undead priests have 2 counters that can't be purged.

[Madsage]

Yea Wotf is a lot better and the lack of PvP trinket is huge, but in a group fight I do not care if a priest is sitting back because I just blink into groups with Arcane Power and start spamming Arcane Explosion and level 60 players die (currently level 48), instant Polymorph and Pyroblast (soon) are an answer for single targets, when I get max rank Arcane Explosion people will literally melt with Arcane Power and Sappers.

One thing besides AoE fear that stops this strategy is Frost Nova and Escape Artist is invaluable when dealing with it because offensive use of Blink is very important, you need an answer for a low cooldown ability used by the most common PvP class.

If I was Horde I would only use frost spec for PvP because Ice Block is an amazing defensive talent, but Escape Artist gives me just enough mobility to play arcane. I will respec to frost once I reach 60 and try it out but so far I am satisfied with arcane, mostly because people do not realize that they have to burst me down before I burst them but that might change with time.

[Madsage]

So now that the P2 is live and my team is at level 50 I will respec to frost, Horde (and Alliance) are running around in groups of 5/10 and killing anyone they can without using really any cc, so the extra survivability from from frost will allow me to deal more damage than Arcane Power when the whole team doesn't die in 3 seconds.

Priest is still the weak point that dies first but at least with Ice Barrier your mages can survive for 3 seconds for Prayer of Healing to land.

Arcane is still super fun for small skirmishes and one shotting anyone you find every 3 minutes