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nirvana9832
11-05-2019, 07:25 PM
Hi all! I'm brand new to the boxing scene for WoW, and just started a 5 man group (Warr, Mage, Lock, Lock, Priest).

I used to multibox D3 before paragons and seasons came out and I've always wanted to try WoW, so I finally bit the bullet with Classic.

I wanted to ask, what you guys all do for settings, or the best way to start. Should I write macros, basic or with GSE for sequence macros? My biggest downfall seems to be the healing part, if I put heals on main buttons my priest is OOM too quickly, and if I try to make it seperate, I seem to forget the healer exists. Any and all advice is great.

If I am supposed to write macros, sor Single target, AOE, and Healing, where can i find pre-written macros? I used to use wow lazy macros, but they don't have a ton of support anymore, esp for classic. I am super new with macros and haven't dont many of my own outside of copy/pasting other's.

Regarding healing, maybe I can use Click (Cliq)? but then how would I click my main window to tell the priest to do those heals?

Another request, is an easy way to BUFF Everyone! haha

Thanks for reading and any and all help/advice. <3

Wubsie
11-06-2019, 01:04 AM
Hello and welcome.

I don't think there really is a "best" way of doing things. There's many ways you could choose to set everything up so it comes down to preference quite often.



I wanted to ask, what you guys all do for settings, or the best way to start. Should I write macros, basic or with GSE for sequence macros?

Since you are running a mixed team you should most likely be looking at using the ISBoxer pro-config or GSE macros to create your rotations. Both work fine and yield fairly similar results. Personally I prefer the pro-config since it keeps everything inside ISBoxer where they are easy to work on along with the general setup. As far pre-written stuff, that would be where GSE would come in handy since people share their creations for that addon around the web, including on the lazy macros website.


My biggest downfall seems to be the healing part, if I put heals on main buttons my priest is OOM too quickly, and if I try to make it seperate, I seem to forget the healer exists. Any and all advice is great.

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Regarding healing, maybe I can use Click (Cliq)? but then how would I click my main window to tell the priest to do those heals?

Well, you'd either need to modify your priest's rotation so that it is more mana efficient by adding pauses, avoiding inefficient healing spells, etcetc, or by separating the healing from your DPS rotations so it won't get spammed if it is not needed. Having to remember to heal is of course then something you need to deal with, but I would imagine it becomes second nature fairly soon.

As far as Clique healing, plenty of people (including myself) do it by simply having a repeater region over their raid/party frame and having it pass clicks to their healer(s). Here's a quick video showing someone setting it up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUdAgbQmegE (he mistakenly says the default keybind to enable the ingame GUI is Alt+Shift+Ctrl+F, but off the top of my head I believe it is Alt+Shift+Ctrl+G)

Note: This is not the only way of handling healing. Mirai had a whole video series on it showing multiple ways one might choose.




Another request, is an easy way to BUFF Everyone! haha


Again there are multiple ways you could choose to do this. Personally I would probably go for a multi-step mapped key in ISBoxer, or perhaps macros with a bunch of castsequences that cast the buffs at specific targets and then drop down to another line in order to buff another character. So something like:



/Castsequence [target=Character1] reset=5 Mark of The Wild, null
/Castsequence [target=Character2] reset=5 Mark of The Wild, null
/Castsequence [target=Character3] reset=5 Mark of The Wild, null

As "null" is not a real spell, the macro line will fail at that part and drop down to the next line. Atleast this is how it worked on retail, not sure if Classic has any differences in how macros work since I've not played it.

Again, just an idea. There are plenty of ways to do it.

Wizeowel
11-06-2019, 08:49 AM
About seeming "to forget the healer exists". Two ideas: move your party healthbars closer to the middle of the screen; and secondly I recommend to try driving from the healer for a while in order to get comfortable with how Clique works.

Actually, it's always good to get a different perspective in a mix-mode group by driving from a different character, to see how you can simplify or optimise stuff.

nirvana9832
11-06-2019, 09:07 AM
Personally I prefer the pro-config since it keeps everything inside ISBoxer where they are easy to work on along with the general setup. There are pre- written macros in ISBoxer? o.o I simply followed the 2.5 hour~ video from MaRai (Haven't started the part 2 videos yet) nor did I watch the pro config video. Where are the built into macros on ISBoxer located?


Mirai had a whole video series on it showing multiple ways one might choose.
I will be watching that healing video to see how he handles things as well, After posting this I made a seperate key for strictly healing the tank, but will need to do other binds for other party members.


not sure if Classic has any differences in how macros work since I've not played it.
I actually found an addon with a buff check, and button that I can click on all 5 toons with broadcasting on which handles all buffing, called SmartBuff.

Thanks for all of your tips!



Actually, it's always good to get a different perspective in a mix-mode group by driving from a different character, to see how you can simplify or optimise stuff.

Great advice, Thank you!