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VetSgtSchaeffer
10-19-2019, 07:37 PM
Is there a way to set up click to move on all characters to move in bgs? I would like to run 2 or 3 characters and am looking for any workarounds or tips to not having follow. Also I am new to Isboxer and dont really know how to do anything besides basics.

Madsage
10-20-2019, 03:15 AM
It is really clunky and you should probably not do it, but you can align cameras on all characters by using Set View keybind and broadcast mouse clicks with program like ISboxer. Since each character is differently affected by latency you will have to be careful that all of them arrive at clicked spot before clicking again.

Play an undead/dwarf team and use anything that counters fear, like Wotf/fear ward/blacksmithing trinket

Look up ISboxer tutorials on youtube, there is a lot to learn.

Apatheist
10-20-2019, 09:15 AM
This would be so painfully ineffective you would end up being a detriment to your team.

VetSgtSchaeffer
10-20-2019, 11:56 AM
Well I would probably try to optimize my race,class,spec also to be effective as possible so maybe 3 undead sl warlocks. Trying to get any tips I can thanks for the responses.

The Crowd
10-20-2019, 01:58 PM
My suggestion is don’t even attempt it...
click to move is so unwieldy that you would be a garunteed loss for your team in anything other than AV. And even then all you could do is hide in towers...
seriously the last thing the boxing community needs is more grief about BG’s they already removed follow to get us out there (us and the bots)
2 or 3 teams of click to move boxers in WSG might be enough to tip the scales against us in the terms of blizzard. Seriously... don’t be the snow flake that creates the grief because you think your better. And that’s not directed at you... that’s directed at all of us. Remember the worst one of us represents us to the gaming and wow communities.

silverback
10-20-2019, 03:08 PM
My first ISBoxer team was all hunters. They are level 50 right now and have been able to do every level appropriate dungeon.

The point of this is, while you're learning, it's easiest to play all the same class with the same spec. Also, with hunters, you send pets in and shoot from a distance. This lets you learn the basics of multiboxing in the least complicated manner. You can later graduate to more complex teams/playstyle IMO.

Mercbeast
10-20-2019, 03:37 PM
I think click to move is a no go for BGs, other than perhaps warlocks in AV. Where at the big choke point battles, 4 or 5 perfectly sync'd up warlocks dotting people up etc, would be a meat grinder for the enemy faction. Outside of that, I think it would be terrible.

Apatheist
10-20-2019, 03:39 PM
The point of this is, while you're learning, it's easiest to play all the same class with the same spec.

I don't agree with this at all. You're better off learning how to manage a standard trinity. Otherwise you're not really learning. You're just using a crutch until you get to the point you can no longer clear stuff then you'll end up having to create a tank/healer and learn how to control it anyway.

Do it right from the start IMO. Single class teams are more of a fun alt comp for people who have already done the standard setups.

nodoze
10-20-2019, 03:50 PM
My suggestion is don’t even attempt it...
click to move is so unwieldy that you would be a garunteed loss for your team in anything other than AV. And even then all you could do is hide in towers...
seriously the last thing the boxing community needs is more grief about BG’s they already removed follow to get us out there (us and the bots)
2 or 3 teams of click to move boxers in WSG might be enough to tip the scales against us in the terms of blizzard. Seriously... don’t be the snow flake that creates the grief because you think your better. And that’s not directed at you... that’s directed at all of us. Remember the worst one of us represents us to the gaming and wow communities.I was thinking exactly the same thing. I remember the QQ about boxers and losing follow in battlegrounds and really don't want to lose follow in WPVP...

Purpleflavor
10-20-2019, 05:44 PM
I think any multiboxer attempting this should be perma banned if they can't maintain a >50% win/loss ratio. Battlegrounds are a part of the game in which we do effect other players greatly without their consent. Those players being our teammates. It's different from consenting wpvpers and pve. Even pve raids have a choice whether to play with you or not. And if you're handicapping yourself, not just 1 character but many characters, in a competitive match that involves outsiders, you better be good enough to not be an anchor on their chance to enjoy the game.

Purpleflavor
10-20-2019, 05:47 PM
I was thinking exactly the same thing. I remember the QQ about boxers and losing follow in battlegrounds and really don't want to lose follow in WPVP...

Imma be straight honest and say that i believe this is the reason they did us wrong in wpvp.

Mercbeast
10-22-2019, 09:53 PM
Imma be straight honest and say that i believe this is the reason they did us wrong in wpvp.

Removing follow, had nothing to do with multiboxing.

It had to do with honor buddy, and other botting software that utilized the follow command to bot, and thereby pvp in battlegrounds, and even in world pvp.

These bots all used IWT+Click to Move+autofollow to behave as seemlessly as possible, and autofollow was absolutely necessary for effective movement in battlegrounds, and for groups of bots.

It just so happens that autofollow is also how multiboxers move, we were collateral damage.

Kruschpakx4
10-22-2019, 11:24 PM
I think any multiboxer attempting this should be perma banned if they can't maintain a >50% win/loss ratio.

i think that 99% of multiboxers had <50% winrate in arathi bashin at times where follow worked

i mean in wotlk i had all the bis pvp gear 3 out of 4 season and i had like 60% wlr and was only 4 boxing xD

Purpleflavor
10-22-2019, 11:39 PM
Removing follow, had nothing to do with multiboxing.

It had to do with honor buddy, and other botting software that utilized the follow command to bot, and thereby pvp in battlegrounds, and even in world pvp.

These bots all used IWT+Click to Move+autofollow to behave as seemlessly as possible, and autofollow was absolutely necessary for effective movement in battlegrounds, and for groups of bots.

It just so happens that autofollow is also how multiboxers move, we were collateral damage.
Yah i mean more so in BFA world pvp these days. That wasn't necessary and likely targeting us. Same with Arena.

daviddoran
10-23-2019, 04:08 PM
We were collateral damage in BGs, but when they disabled follow during all forms of PvP, that was a deliberate anti-boxing in pvp move.

I'm going to box world PvP, but single play BGs. It sucks for us, but at least we won't have to deal with the hate in BGs.

Unless someone on the classic dev team multiboxes, they aren't going to revert this.

nodoze
10-23-2019, 05:21 PM
We were collateral damage in BGs, but when they disabled follow during all forms of PvP, that was a deliberate anti-boxing in pvp move.

I'm going to box world PvP, but single play BGs. It sucks for us, but at least we won't have to deal with the hate in BGs.

Unless someone on the classic dev team multiboxes, they aren't going to revert this.I remember all the QQ from multiboxers in BGs.

When my Paladin got 1 shotted in AV by a 10boxer of Shaman such that I couldn't even bubble was the day I started taking boxing seriously...

AV battles with pugs of lots of disparate players never resulted in focused fire like the 10 boxer... Yes a boxer is maybe only 75-80% as effective as a well coordinated group of actual players, BUT, the pugs weren't coordinated and never did I get one shotted where I couldn't even try to bubble before that... At times the enemy did obviously have someone calling targets but there was always a ramp up as the incoming fire increased such that I at least had a chance to bubble. Other times is was just pure chaos and it was obvious that it was just a mob on the other side with no one calling targets which was really fun for us duo Paladins to AoE in with the Engineering shield, bombs, gadgets, consumables, and consecration...

It seemed like sometime after lots of people were talking about multiboxing in battlegrounds that multi-boxing was killed in battlegrounds... I saw a lot more boxers than I ever saw botter/bots in BGs... At the time it certainly seemed like it was at least a part of the reason they disabled follow to me...

Personally I have mixed feeling about it as I kinda would like to multibox in BGs but then again I like focusing on 1 character in BGs and that everyone else is also 1 player per character...

With that in mind I am at least OK with them not enabling boxing in BGs and may actually overall prefer they don't when I think about it from all angles. WPVP should be enough of that...

Baltyre
10-23-2019, 06:13 PM
Back in the day, the worst thing i did (and i'm kinda ashamed but hey, that was fun), was a 5man box of twinks level 19. It was outragous.

Now in classic, i will not box in BG. I will maybe try dual-box eventually (with separate controls for my second char to move it).

Mercbeast
10-23-2019, 06:28 PM
I think peak multiboxing battlegrounds was prob during cata with frost DK's and a paladin, during the mosg framework era.

Ranged, hard hitting aoe, that dotted, and snared, + ranged interrupts, + good anti magic resist cool downs + pulls.

I was absolutely unstoppable versus all but the most try hard groups in any of the 15v15+ BGs :)

nodoze
10-23-2019, 09:17 PM
I think peak multiboxing battlegrounds was prob during cata with frost DK's and a paladin, during the mosg framework era.

Ranged, hard hitting aoe, that dotted, and snared, + ranged interrupts, + good anti magic resist cool downs + pulls.

I was absolutely unstoppable versus all but the most try hard groups in any of the 15v15+ BGs :)Paladins+DKs were the best... Ooops, I mean worst...

It was great for Paladin Mains as DKs started at 55 so you got a team real fast and with the chains and grips you could just keep, pardon the reverse pun, chain pulling & keeping a grip on people.

Purpleflavor
10-23-2019, 09:33 PM
Paladins+DKs were the best... Ooops, I mean worst...

It was great for Paladin Mains as DKs started at 55 so you got a team real fast and with the chains and grips you could just keep, pardon the reverse pun, chain pulling & keeping a grip on people.

Also, having a two button rotation for blood dps with Obliterate and Heartstrike just smashing everyone in bg's with unholy presence gcd reduction and dancing rune weapon. Dk's were ridiculous

Mercbeast
10-23-2019, 10:11 PM
Also, having a two button rotation for blood dps with Obliterate and Heartstrike just smashing everyone in bg's with unholy presence gcd reduction and dancing rune weapon. Dk's were ridiculous

During cata it was all about howling blast tho. 8x howling blasts killed any and all people who ate all 8, in a single GCD, if they didn't get heals :)