Priest+4mage videos?

[Apatheist]

Has anybody got videos of priest+4mage teams clearing dungeons? Particularly higher level dungeons like Scholomance and Stratholme?

I've seen a bunch of level 20-30 videos but nothing in the 50+ range. I'm thinking about giving it a try but I don't want to spend that much time leveling a team that can't clear all the 5man content.

Cheers

[Peregrine]

I am currently lv 40++ with my mages. I'll post in a week videos. You can also follow my stream www.twitch.tv/waterwalk and I'll stream it all the time from now on when I am on. Expect some high value pvp/pve content.

[sothis]

I had problems clearing scholo, the magic immune skeletons are very hard to deal with.

[Zzc2]

Hey Peregrine, did you switch over to frost spec for ZF? I hit 44 and was about to start ZF. I was wondering if that makes ZF easier rather than arcane. If so, post your mage / priest specs

[Peregrine]

I did try but swapped to arcane, much less managment and more mana>easier pulls. I recommend pulling 5-6 mob pulls max in order to have pulls each 35-40 sec.

Frost has some weird interaction with mobs when in iceblock.


You can check the history on my twitch, there is part with frost.

[Anemo]

I just started doing RFK so recorded this quick run (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufFWGEUtMgw). Might be a little misleading because main mage is 32 but is only doing around 4% more damage than the level 25 mages due to spec. My UI said this was around 20k xp/h but not sure how accurate that is and wasn't including running back to reset/rebuff etc

Edit: Just noticed I had been using wrong rank AE on main mage the entire time, guess that explains why it was barely doing more damage than the others

[Apatheist]

I know there were a couple of people boxing priest/mage that got to 60 but then just stopped posting videos past ZF/BRD-ish level. I wonder if it's because they discovered they weren't able to clear some of the harder dungeons.

[Peregrine]

I know there were a couple of people boxing priest/mage that got to 60 but then just stopped posting videos past ZF/BRD-ish level. I wonder if it's because they discovered they weren't able to clear some of the harder dungeons.

You can check the past stream on my twitch, I didn't clear everything since when I wipe, I usually reset the instance for xp but you will see the xp patter. Currently getting around 40-45k xp per hour or so in 44-46 range.

[Purpleflavor]

I know there were a couple of people boxing priest/mage that got to 60 but then just stopped posting videos past ZF/BRD-ish level. I wonder if it's because they discovered they weren't able to clear some of the harder dungeons.

Xzin was able to farm Strat Baron runs in 30 mins. Might be very limited but not completely shut out. Though, he was in HWL gear, which is much better than what we have at the moment, so there's that kind of gear expectation as well.

[Lyonheart]

https://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/56468-Scholomance-4-Mages-1-Priest-37min-run-(Video)

[StingraY]

You can check the past stream on my twitch, I didn't clear everything since when I wipe, I usually reset the instance for xp but you will see the xp patter. Currently getting around 40-45k xp per hour or so in 44-46 range.

When did you start doing successful aoe pulls with this group? Just wondering when you should start aoeing.

[Peregrine]

at lv 14

[Apatheist]

I'm going to give the comp a try just to see how I like it compared to my warlocks. I probably won't focus too much on leveling it fast but I'll use up the rested XP every few days.

Think I might go with a paladin rather than a priest though.

[Peregrine]

currently lv 58 almost, so 2 days and I'll release few videos.

nearly 1 shotting 35k health bosses.

[Hiddenbrom]

currently lv 58 almost, so 2 days and I'll release few videos.

nearly 1 shotting 35k health bosses.

You mean 1 combo? I don't see how someone can deal 8000 damage per mage with 1 spell :confused:

[Peregrine]

You mean 1 combo? I don't see how someone can deal 8000 damage per mage with 1 spell :confused:

Well, nearly 1 shotting as in takes 4 secs to kill boss :)

Mind you, I ma still lv 58:)

But even tht is extreemly possible ,just have priest PI the mage, have lokc in group with curse of elements>and solid gear>pew pew:)

[Apatheist]

Can you think of any reason why swapping the priest for a paladin would reduce the efficacy of the group? I've already got my paladins and I'm not a huge fan of how squishy priests are in PvP.

[Peregrine]

preshield and renew with double dispell is extremly good, but thing is in pvp when you get jumped by 3/4 melee, holy nova with amplify magic (improved) and with 10/10 healing (you can choose to go 10% mana for loss of 10% healing ,still debating that one and with let's say 300/400 healing (super easy to get in p1 as you get roughly 40 healing per item ) your holy nova rank 6 with all that scaling with roughly heal you from 400-500 per 1 single gcd:) and it wilkl roughly do 250 dmg.

Also, the spirit plus stamina is hugeeee deal in pvp given how mages have really low hp (the shadow buff can be provided by paladin).

But also, don't forget that casters don't present threat at all, so you can always keep amplify magic on. Since melee's are huge deal in classic this counters them so heavily it's joke.

Plus, with invicibility pots (1g per 1, super cheap) you're monster truck on roids. Pala would be good only for buffs pvp wise and pve wise better option then 4th mage/disc.

the good news is that with pala bubble you can make some insane pulls for gold :)

[Apatheist]

holy nova 400-500 per

Didn't think it scaled that well. The coefficient is pretty poor. The mana cost is pretty prohibitive too. 5-6 Casts and you're OOM, right? I guess in PvP it's not about efficiency though, just need to stay alive long enough for the mages to cast a few arcane explosions and kill everything.

I just hate the idea of my healer being GCD'd by a couple of melees in PvP. Paladins are so tanky and provide BoP, etc. I also thought with righteous fury on you could do enough TPS to hold agro on a boss long enough for mages to cast a few spells before you bubble. Could be pretty useful for killing difficult bosses.

I can see the use of being able to spam holy nova/bubble to kite though. Tough choice.

As far as bursting bosses down, I imagine with PoM/Pyro spec and around 200 spell damage you could arcane power and hard cast pyroblast then pom/pyro into fire blast. That's roughly 3200 damage per mage (1300+1300+600.) Not sure how you get to 8000+.

[Peregrine]

Well, with mage int buff and 10% more mana, you can squeeze in around 7 k mana. That's roughly 10 casts. More then enough to nuke anything. Plus, you got spirit regen so some of your mana will get back to you with all that spirit/mp5.

Also, 400-500 is for healing only, not for damage. Still, that is insane for aoe dmg and healing. Most people will do 400,500 dmg in 2 gcd. So with shield and that damage they will die in 2 gcd.

Also, I did math and HWL gear on locks and mages is almost no difference (tiny) so you're looking at same health pool (no 15% talent and imp) but still.
You can notice that why shamans were that good in TBC? I'ts all about burst damage in this game. As soon as enemy recovers>FUBAR.

[Apatheist]

I assumed mages would be decent in PvP. My concern was they wouldn't be able to kill end-game bosses but, judging by the video, it seems you can manage by just spamming heals and hoping the mages have enough DPS to down the boss before healer runs OOM.

[Hiddenbrom]

Well, nearly 1 shotting as in takes 4 secs to kill boss :)

Mind you, I ma still lv 58:)

But even tht is extreemly possible ,just have priest PI the mage, have lokc in group with curse of elements>and solid gear>pew pew:)

I thought 1 shotting used to mean 1 spell (per character in this case) :P

[Diwa]

Mind to post your Priest Talent build

[ExBox]

I am currently lv 40++ with my mages. I'll post in a week videos. You can also follow my stream www.twitch.tv/waterwalk (http://www.twitch.tv/waterwalk) and I'll stream it all the time from now on when I am on. Expect some high value pvp/pve content.

Nice content Peregrine, one can see you fell in love with the 4M1P comp. May I ask, how you manage the ground target spells on the mage? In your stream it looks like you don't target them anymore at all (or click super fast). Flamestrike for instance, how do all mages ground target at once so precisely?

I went for a mixed team (Druid,Priest,Mage,WL,Shaman) Also quite happy but also a lot slower lol. Intrigued to roll another 4M1P comp, but just don't have the time it takes. (and the nerves)

Thanks in advance!