Choosing a Healer for Mythic+

[JohnGabriel]

I have tried holy priest, disc priest, and holy paladin, and so far I am really loving the holy paladin. I have not tried a mistweaver monk, restro druid or shaman yet this expansion.

Take a look at this list of only the mythic+ healers on raider.io
https://raider.io/mythic-plus-character-rankings/season-bfa-2/world/all/healer#content

Look at all those restro druids. It seems like druid is the obvious go-to healer for high mythic+

Has anyone multiboxed with one this season? Or even this expansion? I feel like I am missing out, time to level and gear up a restro druid.

[MadMilitia]

RSHM but yeah it sucked at launch. MW is supposed to be great for the mobility and RDRU is great for the brez and mobility and decent toolkit.

Whatever reason I'm not enjoying holy or disc. I think the RSHM toolkit is just far superior. I haven't done anything with my MW yet though plan to later on.

Seems as though the strat now is to either kite with all snares or tank with all tanks. The latter probably less effective now.

[JohnGabriel]

I also notice the Blood DK is much less popular tank.
https://raider.io/mythic-plus-character-rankings/season-bfa-2/world/all/tank

So they could be choosing a healer just for the brez if the tank no longer has one.

[MadMilitia]

Current meta favors PROT after the spec changes. BDK got nerfed a bit on their durability. PROT is just far more mobile and a better toolkit if someone does the knockbacks on sanguine weeks.

RDRU has been a thing since launch though. It's just probably better to have two brez when so many other benefits exist. Balance this expansion has been in a terrible place with most teams just going BDK / FRMAG / ROG / DH / X (RDRU or HPAL) variant.

As usual come 8.3.5 or whatever the final patch is specs will be better balanced. Only to be turned upside down in 9.0 again. I'm honestly over it.

[Ellay]

So Resto Druid is great, but I just couldn't get a feel for it. The hots felt like they weren't ticking for enough and couldn't get the kind of rotation I wanted. Burst healing also felt weak.

Resto Shaman is amazing for boxing, as chain heal is powerful and a smart heal.
Mistweaver Monk is also amazing, they have great passive aoe heals and extremely strong single target heals. On top of that they give you 5% melee damage buff, which includes hunters.

I have not tried Priest or Paladin this season but I did do Holy paladin at the end of legion briefly and it also didn't feel smooth then.

[Andreauk]

I am not anywhere near mythics yet but I am levelling Prot Warrior tank, x3 BM Hunters and I really love Holy Priest.

[Gomotron]

I'm finally 120 on 2 teams (4BDK + Pal) and (4VDH + Priest).

I leveled with Disc for the priest, but with a 4 tank team, I switched to Holy for instances as the healing toolbox is much more effective for how I play. The Holy Paladin seemed really weak healing-wise but I haven't started with instances in that group yet. I will update as my experience grows.

[Punix]

Are there any Updates on this in 8.3?
What are the Multiboxers preffered healers?
Currently dont have a Good Overview of which healers are using ground target aoe spells which is unpreferably i guess

[Purpleflavor]

Are there any Updates on this in 8.3?
What are the Multiboxers preffered healers?
Currently dont have a Good Overview of which healers are using ground target aoe spells which is unpreferably i guessi havent seen a healer trend for boxers at all, it's all over the map. People either feel more comfortable boxing their preferred healer in every comp, or pick the healer that best fits a comp based on movement and casting type.

Ground aoe's can be simple by using [@player] if your healer is on follow, but i drive from my healer so it's never an issue for me. The classes using ground aoes are Druid, Shaman, and sometimes holy priest. They arent very impactful imo you could literally never cast them and be okay.

Right now all healers are pretty good, so it's hard to make a bad choice. I'd say pick the on that fits your playstyle.

If i had to sort them out in my best opinion, i'd go
Melee team = paladin
Casters = priest
Mixed = druid

[Ellay]

Second purpleflavor on this one. It comes down to playstyle. I can't think of any that you can go wrong with except potentially Disc Priest since it requires a target to do healing and has windows to burst heal. If that doesn't work out though, the same class can just go Holy which is also great.

Further thoughts on this, the strongest Healers if your playing solo are Resto Druid (they've been dominant now for a very long time) and Holy Paladins. I wish I could make either of these work. To maximize their potential they both have melee variants are part of their rotation which is not likely unless you're also doing a melee team.
Now Resto druid itself doesn't need to do this they can get by with just casting but the dps does take a dip. I really need to spend the time and figure out a way to macro their healing rotation at a high level.

[MadMilitia]

More of my own thoughts later in the expansion:

Healer and tank should compliment each other.

RSHM + Brew is excellent as RSHM brings a lot of utility, Brew brings the gap fillers such as a poison/disease dispel and a lot of mobility / stagger mechanic to smooth out healing.

MW + BDK would also be good because this is the inverse. BDK brings tons of utility and MW brings mobility and the big tank cooldown.

PROTW + RDRU will always be a good option.

I don't know PROTP so well but I imagine the best healer for PROTP is MW.

HPAL would probably want a tank that brings some mobility and big defensives and some utility so that sounds like PROTW.

[Lyonheart]

I moved to resto shaman(thanks Ellay). I have tried all a little bit, none at the gear level my team is now (440ish). I find the shaman awesome. With riptide ( and the traits that make it better),healing rain/chain heal ).. fast cast surge combined with 3 spirit beasts heals and a paly tank that almost never needs a heal in normal content ( heals him self with HoP.). I have not played the monk much.. i want to try it eventually, but i have a hard to keeping up with more than one team right now.. too much content!

[Ellay]

The information is a bit skewed in favor of Resto Druid / Holy Paladin and it's not apples to apples but this gives you a high level overview of what works for comps based off everyones logs.

https://bestkeystone.com/#/compositions

Your able to sort by Tank / Healer and see how they all perform - what % the keys are successful... and yikes. After looking at the information the Prot Paladin is the worst matchup for a Resto Shaman. (maybe I need to rethink my comp?)
.. looking further the Mistweaver Monk is the best healer for a Prot Paladin. (Based off of successful keys).

HMM!

[Lyonheart]

The information is a bit skewed in favor of Resto Druid / Holy Paladin and it's not apples to apples but this gives you a high level overview of what works for comps based off everyones logs.

https://bestkeystone.com/#/compositions

Your able to sort by Tank / Healer and see how they all perform - what % the keys are successful... and yikes. After looking at the information the Prot Paladin is the worst matchup for a Resto Shaman. (maybe I need to rethink my comp?)
.. looking further the Mistweaver Monk is the best healer for a Prot Paladin. (Based off of successful keys).

HMM!

What is good for an individual healer in a group is not the same as what healer is best to multibox. i think thats the idea of this thread..no boxer ( unless they drive from their healer..maybe not even then) is going to be as efficient as a solo healer. Shamans just have more tools for us that are easy to manage. Casting healing rain like /cast @player Healing Rain..riptide..all the awesome totems..etc.. I have all my shamans totems and heals with VFX and can drop any totem or cast any heal them from my tanks window very easy. To get the fullness of any healer..you have to be playing it solo imo. So the best healer on paper for a mythic group might not be best for us.

[Ellay]

I agree completely. I always am trying to think on what could make the comp better - but I think it's getting as close to solid in the current era as it can be. The good news is there is still options to be had :)

[Lyonheart]

I really want to try a monk healer, mine is fresh 120 and im not sure i feel like doing the grind with him for gear and essences. Ill prb just stick with the pal+resto sham and 3 hunters until the expansion. My holy pal is geared out and has R3 and R4 essences ..those are a pain to do from scratch. The holy pal was not a great healer for my team..good for the tank when needed.. but topping the whole team off when shit hit the fan was not easy hehe. Im looking forward to Shadowlands.. seems like it will be way more alt friendly.

[Ellay]

This is the main reason why I like Resto Shaman - the single target heals are weak is the only downside but with the prot paladin. It covers that weak area.
For AoE heals you have Healing Rain going at all times, and potentially 2x healing stream totems.
Then to suppliment you have chain heal which is a smart heal that also heals your pets in the process. (This is something I noticed on the monk healer, the pets would die if your not casting mend pet on the hunter (slight loss of dps I think since it takes up a gcd).

On top of all of that you have Healing Tide Totem (monk equivalent would be renewal).
Spirit Link Totem ( I should use this more honestly)
Ascendance( This is my favorite heal of the bunch, I currently combine it with spiritwalkers grace) and I have 15 seconds to run around just spamming massive heals. (I guess it feels like a druid at this point).

Holy paladin as a side note does insane dps when played solo for a healer. They are super op right now and I'm surprised their glimmer build hasn't been further nerfed.

[MadMilitia]

The information is a bit skewed in favor of Resto Druid / Holy Paladin and it's not apples to apples but this gives you a high level overview of what works for comps based off everyones logs.

https://bestkeystone.com/#/compositions

Your able to sort by Tank / Healer and see how they all perform - what % the keys are successful... and yikes. After looking at the information the Prot Paladin is the worst matchup for a Resto Shaman. (maybe I need to rethink my comp?)
.. looking further the Mistweaver Monk is the best healer for a Prot Paladin. (Based off of successful keys).

HMM!


Thanks Ellay, this confirms my suspicions about the resto shaman healer in BFA.

First Brewmaster for the reasons stated:

Stagger mechanic smooths out big spikes which RSHM has trouble with.
Poison / Disease dispel which RSHM doesn't have.
Excellent mobility which RSHM cannot help with.
Knockback with ring of peace.


Then what supports go well with Brewmaster, to fill further gaps

Fury

Piercing howl AoE snare and pure phys for Brew's mystic touch 5% phys dmg
Battle Shout damage buff
Excellent cleave


Beast

Traps
Ranged spec with excellent mobility
Enraged dispel with spirit beast


Outlaw

Shroud
Excellent cleave
Good utility in kicks, blind and gouge



If you prefer RSHM for M+ this is the best comp to run, by far and the stats on that page illustrate it. I also suspect Brew / RSHM / 3* BM is also powerful but not as good.

[Ellay]

If your planning on running a Fury and Outlaw you'll get full use out of your Monk as well, with their melee oriented DPS. So that is a huge boon as well.

The only caveat is melee is definitely tougher than a ranged team when it comes to mechanics.

[MadMilitia]

If your planning on running a Fury and Outlaw you'll get full use out of your Monk as well, with their melee oriented DPS. So that is a huge boon as well.

The only caveat is melee is definitely tougher than a ranged team when it comes to mechanics.

I've been thinking about this and if you can keep them fully synced with the tank it might not be as difficult as ranged is. Apart from quaking weeks there isn't much to worry about with having them stacked. It would make weeks like sanguine much easier as well. I vividly recall how awful King's Rest was on my warlock comp. So I definitely don't think ranged have it easier than melee for BFA M+.

[Lyonheart]

Thanks Ellay, this confirms my suspicions about the resto shaman healer in BFA.

First Brewmaster for the reasons stated:

Stagger mechanic smooths out big spikes which RSHM has trouble with.
Poison / Disease dispel which RSHM doesn't have.
Excellent mobility which RSHM cannot help with.
Knockback with ring of peace.



point 2 .. if you have paly tank you have that covered. point 3 Riptide heals well..combine that with traits that make your super fast surge heal bigger and spritwalkers grace allows you to cast on the move. And shams have tremor totem to remove fear effects! But yea..might not be as good as Monk..one of these days ill try one 8)