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JohnGabriel
12-15-2018, 05:05 PM
A new mount was added in 8.1, a super secret hidden mount.

https://www.wowhead.com/news=289124/hivemind-secret-mount-location-discovered-in-court-of-stars

It has a unique spell effect.

Joined Hivemind150 yd range
Instant
Joins with the target, a member of your Hivemind, limited to the outdoors, following normal vehicle rules.

and

Effect #3 Apply Aura: Mod Mounted Speed %Value: 10%
Effect #4 Apply Aura: Incerase Mounted Speed % - Stacks
Value: 10%


Wont know for sure until someone actually finds the mount in game, but it looks like it increases mount speed by 10% for everyone thats in the hive. You're looking at 50% increased mount speed for 5 boxing.

Xyl41
12-15-2018, 10:39 PM
This was just completed. I am in the process of getting it now to see how well it works.

JohnGabriel
12-16-2018, 12:18 AM
And if they are all connected it might mean never losing follow.

Edit. Found a video to the mount released by the wow secrets discord.
https://clips.twitch.tv/CautiousInquisitivePuffinVoHiYo

It looks like only one person needs the mount, other party members just jump on like any other multi-person mount.

MiRai
12-16-2018, 02:07 PM
For the full guide:
https://www.wowhead.com/news=289124/hivemind-secret-mount-the-hunt-is-over

Kojiiko
12-16-2018, 09:50 PM
And if they are all connected it might mean never losing follow.

Edit. Found a video to the mount released by the wow secrets discord.
https://clips.twitch.tv/CautiousInquisitivePuffinVoHiYo

It looks like only one person needs the mount, other party members just jump on like any other multi-person mount.

hmm use barding and others buffs that allow u to keep on mount while herbing? i wonder if icould be done?

Xyl41
12-17-2018, 06:33 AM
Copy from my post on WoW Reddit:

I have completed this on my 5 druid multibox.
TLDR: If you did hivemind on that chracter you can only hivemind with others from the group. If you didn't do hivemind on that character anyone who didnt' do hivemind on that character can join. Hivemind speed bonus does not stack with other effects such as Paladin Crusader or Pathfinder.
Numbers below are based on Deja numbers for movement speed.
In Zandalar with pathfinder part 1. Hivemind mount (0 inside) - 220%
Hivemind mount (1 inside) - 220%
Hivemind mount (2 inside) - 220%
Hivemind mount (3 inside) - 230%
Hivemind mount (4 inside) - 240%
In Dalaran (Legion,280% flying) with pathfinder part 2
Hivemind mount (0 inside) - 390%
Hivemind mount (1 inside) - 390%
Hivemind mount (2 inside) - 400%
Hivemind mount (3 inside) - 410%
Hivemind mount (4 inside) - 420%
In Pandara (280% flying) Hivemind mount (0 inside) - 390%
Hivemind mount (1 inside) - 400%
Hivemind mount (2 inside) - 410%
Hivemind mount (3 inside) - 420%
Hivemind mount (4 inside) - 420%
I then logged onto my paladin (who was not part of the hivemind group) and my druids could not enter his hivemind mount. Next I logged into an entirely different group (but on the same accounts) and they were able to join the hivemind together (they are level 43). At this point I swapped back to my paladin for speed tests.
Paladin: Orgrimmar (310% flying) Hivemind mount (0 inside) - 430%
Hivemind mount (1 inside) - 430%
Hivemind mount (2 inside) - 430%
Hivemind mount (3 inside) - 440%
Hivemind mount (4 inside) - 450%
Paladin: Zandalar - Pathfinder Part 1
Hivemind mount (0 inside) - 240%
Hivemind mount (1 inside) - 240%
Hivemind mount (2 inside) - 240%
Hivemind mount (3 inside) - 240%
Hivemind mount (4 inside) - 240%

Ughmahedhurtz
12-17-2018, 01:12 PM
So for those of you that got it, how long did it take you?

Dreadone
12-17-2018, 01:21 PM
hmm use barding and others buffs that allow u to keep on mount while herbing? i wonder if icould be done?

I smell the nerfbat.. Someone needs to test this already :)

MadMilitia
12-17-2018, 02:41 PM
So for those of you that got it, how long did it take you?

I did it casually between yesterday and today. I think the red monocle was the worst part as you can't really save any time on it.

My suggestions:

Blue monocle = send your highest achieved character from your team. Nobody else as phasing headaches are everywhere.
Yellow monocle = send only one. The puzzle will ruin your FPS. This puzzle is long. Expect an hour or two on it.
Green monocle = super easy. Doesn't matter.
Red monocle = send the character with the abyssal seahorse. A huge improvement though it's still a timesink as you need to travel A-B-A-C-A-B, etc.

Not all characters have to have all monocles. Can have one red, one green, one yellow, one blue.

For the suramar part, be mindful of the mob HP. Send first four to the four waypoints, put on the monocle that cons red. Take off weapons, dismiss pets and keep them around 10% life. Send 5th toon to the room with the cabinet. Run into the cabinet until you come through the other side and click the pillows until you get kicked out.

FYI: Damage from the room will need to include absorbs as well. The flat damage number is not accurate if a character with an absorb on them did it.

On yellow, as I suspect this will be a problem for a few people. This thing will wreck your GPU so don't send more than 1. For that 1, identify the board color by finding the tile that cannot be altered anywhere. That'll be your board color. Then slowly work to convert the rest of the tiles to that color. Keep in mind that tiles are usually not affected by controls on the other side of the board. Stay local, look once in awhile out of that range if you can't find the source of the control. Basically all the controls shoot color changes across the titles in a X + O format.

Rest of the guide stuff should be straight forward.


I smell the nerfbat.. Someone needs to test this already :)


Tested. Dismounts on gather.

Xyl41
12-17-2018, 03:05 PM
I took my entire team and have all 4 monacles on all 5 characters. If you are only sending one character per, none of them matter if your team is 120 except the one in Vahjir. If you have a druid, send the druid - do the sea legs quest and use aquatic form - this makes aquatic form the same speed or faster than flying (it was quite a bit faster on my 280 flying team). For the yellow monacle download the addon Hivemind HoO Puzzle helper, this makes the process take ~20 minutes if you fill it in properly. I'm not sure why it killed the FPS of the above poster as my team sat looking at the puzzle and I didn't notice any issues.

MadMilitia
12-17-2018, 03:45 PM
I'm not sure why it killed the FPS of the above poster as my team sat looking at the puzzle and I didn't notice any issues.

I run 5 * 3440 * 1440 on a 1080ti. So that no doubt had something to do with it. It's usually fine until a lot of little doodads show up.

omegared
12-18-2018, 04:33 AM
On yellow, as I suspect this will be a problem for a few people. This thing will wreck your GPU so don't send more than 1. For that 1, identify the board color by finding the tile that cannot be altered anywhere. That'll be your board color. Then slowly work to convert the rest of the tiles to that color. Keep in mind that tiles are usually not affected by controls on the other side of the board. Stay local, look once in awhile out of that range if you can't find the source of the control. Basically all the controls shoot color changes across the titles in a X + O format.

Theres an addon for the yellow monocle:
https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/hivemind-hoo-puzzle-helper

People who manage this without the addon are geniusses imo.
But even with the addon, it took me several tries (and hours) because of mistakes i made.

Red is time-based, so dont bother getting 2380 seashells all at once, you wont make it in time before they expire.

Blue is just a lot of travelling and using portals/hearthstones.

Green is a piece of cake.

The final part i have yet to do.

All in all, it will probably take you 4 hours to do everything

MadMilitia
12-18-2018, 05:34 AM
Theres an addon for the yellow monocle:
https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/hivemind-hoo-puzzle-helper

People who manage this without the addon are geniusses imo.


I did look into this addon but personally they don't work for me. Mapping out that many nodes would drive me insane and I'd probably screw up somewhere. It's just another layer of stuff to keep in mind when you really should just be looking at the board. In the end that's what I did. Once you understand how the whole thing works it's not terribly complicated.

Chumbucket
12-19-2018, 11:01 PM
Has anyone been able to do the Cat Petting part multi boxing? I tried so many times. I finally joined a PUG and got the mount but only one character can use it at a time on my account. You can only use it as a party if the party finishes the last ritual together so you need to multi box the Cat petting. If anyone has been able to do it please tell us how you did it. Otherwise the rest is completely doable with a 5 man team.

Xyl41
12-20-2018, 12:24 AM
Yes, I did the entire thing solo. My strategy for the cat petting was to mark each cat with a symbol and then stand each character beside one cat targeting their cat. I chose the symbols and cats used based on my set up - I use swapping with open slot so they always go back to the same spot. Next I started with the cat with the highest needed (mine was 37483 - numbers are right, not positive on order). So for mine I started in client 4 and did 1 pet, then swapped to client 2 and did 1 pet, and repeated until I had 4 pets on 4, 3 on 2, then did 1 pet each on 2, 3, 4 - and then did 3 pets on each 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 (I did these in order from 1-5 and by the time I got back to 1 the pet action was done and I could do it again). It took me 2 attempts to get it, and I will say I had pretty easy numbers.

Chumbucket
12-20-2018, 12:48 AM
Awesome, that's very encouraging. How did you position your toons? I tried something similar to that but the cats kept moving so I would miss some pets on different cats. I put a repeater region in an area to hover over the cats but they kept moving.

moosejaw
12-20-2018, 01:28 AM
I got the mount solo in a pug last night after failing to get the kills timed right on my own (trying on a L110 team was hard). Disappointed that you can only load in the people you got the mount with (my pug group) and not just anyone you are grouped with. Then seeing that alts using the mount could load in anyone in group, I was encouraged a bit. Then I saw the blue twitter post stating that behavior was unintended and they were going to hotfix it I am discouraged again.

It is a great mount, let me load in any group member without the speed buff. This would be so cool for ferrying around friends, who don't have flying, for group content.

Blue tweet (https://twitter.com/Celestalon/status/1074489992548765696) for reference

Chumbucket
12-20-2018, 02:05 AM
I think they already hot fixed it because none of my toons will load in the mount.

Xyl41
12-20-2018, 02:21 AM
I did not use a repeater region to pet the cats, I did it manually by swapping to each window.

Chumbucket
12-20-2018, 12:03 PM
Hey Xyl41! I used your technique and it worked like a charm. It took 4 tries but I got passed the Cat woman. Thanks for the help :)

MadMilitia
12-20-2018, 01:15 PM
Another way to do the part with the cats is to setup a small vFX window for each, in the corner of the screen for real estate. These are then given mouse broadcasting. So I don't have any latency on a window swap.

Mine looks like this:

https://www.dual-boxing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2126&stc=1


Then order them so it's easy to follow for each click rotation:

https://www.dual-boxing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2125&stc=1

In each step, click the windows according to the called name. Make sure they are all zoomed in. Sometimes the NPC will get in the way so you'll have to start over.

It took a total of 3 attempts I think. The first I just didn't account for the absorb difference. Corrected that, cat lady got in the way of one and wouldn't go away. Third was a charm.

Moorea
01-08-2019, 03:17 PM
I came here to post with the same subject but used search first and found this thread, so posting here.

This mount is a super huge pain to get (even with the guides) but it's soooo worth it once you have it - choose your team composition carefully as you only get a 450% 5 person flying for that team. (240% ground in kul tiras/zand). Having my 5 guys 1 IWT away from mounting is just wonderful.

For yellow, do bring everyone and more as you can loot yellow infinitely - I invited folks to come loot after I was done and got extra characters the yellow one just in case. also the instance bugged for me while using the addon (which is a terrible chore) so I ended up solving it manually the 2nd time, buy setting the outter layer first etc... much better. You can also just join an already solved one and loot

Red monocle is terrible pain, it's super easy as a druid (600%+ swim speed there!) but as a team... even with the sea horse, it's cutting it close each time and 1 of the fishes has that terrible behavior that it keeps moving, so I ended up loosing the gold on all but 2 of my guys as a result. But given how the mount works, you really only need 1 red.

About the cats, that took me a while... my code was 67724 so I made 2 target groups, one with 1,2,3,5 and one with 1,2,3 and manually petted the 2 7s first (bringing it to 66624 left) sent iwt (without changing actual target) to group 1 twice bringing it to 44424 then 2x group 2, bringing to 22222 and then 2x to everyone... bingo!

https://www.dual-boxing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2128&stc=1
https://www.dual-boxing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2129&stc=1

JohnGabriel
01-10-2019, 04:26 PM
For the red monocle, maybe this item also help.

https://www.wowhead.com/item=151239/felslate-anchor

Sinks you to the bottom really fast in water.

briarknit
02-14-2019, 01:48 PM
So just so I am following all of your correctly, if I get this mount with a specific team of 5 (my 5 druids, for example) then they will only be able to hive together with members of that original 5 man group? Meaning, if I switch one of the druids over to a different team, I can't hivemind the new 4 into that single druids hivemind?

Ellay
02-15-2019, 12:03 PM
Interested to know this as well.

JohnGabriel
02-15-2019, 01:02 PM
So just so I am following all of your correctly, if I get this mount with a specific team of 5 (my 5 druids, for example) then they will only be able to hive together with members of that original 5 man group? Meaning, if I switch one of the druids over to a different team, I can't hivemind the new 4 into that single druids hivemind?

The mount works like a regular 5-man mount for everybody.

If someone summons the mount and you are in that persons "hive" you will give them a % speed bonus. If you're not in their hive then you wont.

Check out Xyl41's post on first page for the speed bonus testing.

Sservis
02-15-2019, 02:30 PM
The mount works like a regular 5-man mount for everybody.

If someone summons the mount and you are in that persons "hive" you will give them a % speed bonus. If you're not in their hive then you wont.

Check out Xyl41's post on first page for the speed bonus testing.

That post is a bit confusing, specifically (excerpted below, bold mine), Xyl41 states that the druids (who were the "group") could not enter the Hivemind of a paladin who didn't earn in. However, the speed examples look like the druids could enter the paladin's Hivemind. as there's a speedup once the second and later druid enters the mount. I think the sentence about druids not being able to enter the paladin's hivemind is likely wrong, but I don't have personal testing to validate that.


I then logged onto my paladin (who was not part of the hivemind group) and my druids could not enter his hivemind mount. Next I logged into an entirely different group (but on the same accounts) and they were able to join the hivemind together (they are level 43). At this point I swapped back to my paladin for speed tests.
Paladin: Orgrimmar (310% flying)
Hivemind mount (0 inside) - 430%
Hivemind mount (1 inside) - 430%
Hivemind mount (2 inside) - 430%
Hivemind mount (3 inside) - 440% [Sservis - second druid from group enters here, so there's a speed boost in the data reported, conflicting with sentence above]
Hivemind mount (4 inside) - 450%
Paladin: Zandalar - Pathfinder Part 1
Hivemind mount (0 inside) - 240%
Hivemind mount (1 inside) - 240%
Hivemind mount (2 inside) - 240%
Hivemind mount (3 inside) - 240%
Hivemind mount (4 inside) - 240%

MiRai
02-15-2019, 06:54 PM
I think the sentence about druids not being able to enter the paladin's hivemind is likely wrong, but I don't have personal testing to validate that.
You are only allowed to group up into the Hivemind mount with the other characters you did the questline with, but there was a bug early on that allowed you to enter into others' Hivemind mounts when not having done the quest with them, or at all. Furthermore, if you want to change the set of characters who can group up into the Hivemind together, then you will need to redo the questline with that particular set of characters (it is repeatable).

Sservis
02-17-2019, 02:47 PM
You are only allowed to group up into the Hivemind mount with the other characters you did the questline with, but there was a bug early on that allowed you to enter into others' Hivemind mounts when not having done the quest with them, or at all. Furthermore, if you want to change the set of characters who can group up into the Hivemind together, then you will need to redo the questline with that particular set of characters (it is repeatable).

So JohnGabriel's statement that it works like a 5 person mount is incorrect? And it was the data results in Xyl41's post that aren't accurate (changed after the fact), not the text.

I thought there was some weirdness and was calling out that the referred to post was ambiguous. Thanks for clarifying.

Edit: Did a bunch of web searching and it looks like the mount is nearly worthless (they've disabled it in BGs and maybe M+, it's character specific, etc) In the open world it would have use, but that seems to be about it.

Ellay
02-19-2019, 12:26 PM
Got the mount last night. It does not work in M+.
I don't really care for the tentacle squid thing that it is, but it's function is amazing.
With my DK piloting, it's 40% extra boost on top of the regular DK/Pal boost.
Being able to get from place to place without having to worry about your followers getting stuck is a huge deal for me. Overall I think it was worth the investment if you have a set team and stick with it.

My recap on difficulty.
Red monocle took about an hour total, I had never stepped foot in Vashj'r on this team so I had to do the first quest to get underwater breathing.
Yellow monocle I used the addon and it made it pretty simple, just time consuming. I also accidentally clicked the middle when I was complete and not the chest and had to redo it. You only have to do it once for everyone to loot the chest.
Green Monocle was probably the easiest. travel time total maybe 20 minutes.
Blue monocle took a bit because I wasn't in a guild, so my hearthstone was 30 minutes, but also pretty easy.

next section wasn't too bad using 120's just auto attack each mob to 20% and then stop to make sure all were at that point.
For some reason I got the cats on my first try without doing anything special.
I put each character next to a cat and my number was 66127 and my char 1-5 had these numbers in order.
So I clicked on char 1 , then char 2, then char 5
repeated that 6 times
then clicked on char 2, char 3, char 5
then char 3
and it worked fine.

The next piece was very easy for boxing just follow the instructions given on the guide for who clicks what.
The last piece was a bit of a boggle to me to initially get going, was also probably because I was tired and past my usual bed time, but it makes sense after a bit and then boom mount!

Flumpumpel
02-24-2019, 10:16 PM
Does anyone did the Hivemind on a second Team? Will it overwrite the first Hivemind link?
For Example, i do the Hivemind on 5 Shaman and than do the Questline again on 5 Druids.

MiRai
02-25-2019, 12:15 AM
Will it overwrite the first Hivemind link?
Unfortunately, yes.

Ellay
02-25-2019, 04:39 PM
You keep the lenses though, so if you want to switch you just have to do the Suramar and Court of Stars progession which after doing it once and knowing what to expect shouldn't take more than 30-40 min. Maybe less depending on figuring out who's who on the last stage.

Ellay
03-16-2019, 11:06 AM
Has anyone had trouble with this mount on some teams? One of my sets of teams it boots out players randomly every 5 min or so it seems while another set is solid the entire time.

MadMilitia
03-19-2019, 02:16 PM
Has anyone had trouble with this mount on some teams? One of my sets of teams it boots out players randomly every 5 min or so it seems while another set is solid the entire time.


Can confirm. Rotated out two warlocks from the main team for rogue and mage. Redid the hivemind last night. This AM seeing the exact same thing you are.

It never happened with the old team. So guessing a recent patch broke this somehow.

Ellay
03-20-2019, 08:42 AM
Recently, the hunter pets are causing some extremely weird behavior on it. I'll see the pets sitting still next to my mount as I travel around. When I dismount, do an activity and try to remount it still thinks the pets are somehow on the old mount. My main will cast the mount and instantly dismount. The workaround is I bound dismiss pet to the same key I mount with on my main and I can then jump off. It also seemed to reduce the amount of times I get booted off.

I ended up just going back to my DH/4x Boomkin recently to alleviate the issue.

Moorea
04-24-2019, 04:22 AM
Did someone try recently to have a second hivemind team (5 new alts) and confirmed they lost the link on their first team? I find this suprising that it would limit like that instead of per character and maybe they fixed it since the early bugs?

ps: you can’t use it in BGs (anymore?) and I do have that weird « still mounted »bug from times to time but you can solve it with re iwt and re mount

Moorea
07-14-2019, 02:14 AM
> Will it overwrite the first Hivemind link?
Unfortunately, yes.


Did someone try recently to have a second hivemind team (5 new alts) and confirmed they lost the link on their first team? I find this surprising that it would limit like that instead of per character and maybe they fixed it since the early bugs?


I'll answer my own question, and it's good news!
It does work fine on multiple teams, you do NOT lose the first team link when doing a second one.

Baboon35
07-14-2019, 12:34 PM
Having issues with gathering. Can't pick up herbs, mines work fine. Didn't have this problem before this patch (8.2). Anyone else having this problem ?

Lyonheart
04-14-2020, 05:23 PM
NM..figured it out

Chumbucket
04-15-2020, 12:44 AM
I'll answer my own question, and it's good news!
It does work fine on multiple teams, you do NOT lose the first team link when doing a second one.

So are you saying that a particular toon can be a member of more than one group (for example my main Pally can be both a member of a group of 5 Paladins and also a tank for my farming team), or are you saying you can have multiple teams on the same account as long as each toon is linked with a unique team?

Ellay
04-15-2020, 08:55 AM
each specific character can only be linked to one team.
I have a set of 5 that are linked to a mount and another different set of 5 linked to a different mount.

Lyonheart
04-15-2020, 05:17 PM
I'm doing the quest now..need the red monocle and then whatever comes after that. But man, i would pay 10 million gold for a 5 man mount that is account wide! ( i don't even have that much gold but I would grind it out hehe )



Done! That was long! Now that i know how to do it, ill do it for all my teams at some point! tomtom has a hivemind addon (https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/tomcats-tours-hivemind) that makes easy work of the red monocle!

i do regret not bringing in one toon from each team for the yellow..oh well! ill get it for them all next time!

Ellay
04-16-2020, 01:00 PM
that's the important thing to note, is don't get rid of the monocles when your done.

hawkg99
04-20-2020, 01:40 PM
Any word yet if Shadowlands is going to mess with this mount?

MiRai
04-20-2020, 02:17 PM
Any word yet if Shadowlands is going to mess with this mount?
What does "mess with" refer to?

I doubt Blizzard introduced a mount with a very niche feature locked behind several hurdles, just to take it away in the next expansion. So, if you have something you're interested in, specific to this mount, then it would help to know what that is.

hawkg99
04-20-2020, 03:29 PM
What does "mess with" refer to?

I doubt Blizzard introduced a mount with a very niche feature locked behind several hurdles, just to take it away in the next expansion. So, if you have something you're interested in, specific to this mount, then it would help to know what that is.

Nothing 'specific' just a general curiosity if there has been any updates....hopefully they do leave it alone.

Lyonheart
04-20-2020, 03:33 PM
Nothing 'specific' just a general curiosity if there has been any updates....hopefully they do leave it alone.


if they change anything.. i would wish for making in bnet account wide..but that is just a dream! ( i mean being able to put 5 of any combo of toons in it as long as they are on the same bnet )

MiRai
04-21-2020, 07:22 PM
Nothing 'specific' just a general curiosity if there has been any updates....hopefully they do leave it alone.
The only thing they could really do is what Lyonheart points out, and that's to just make it work with everyone and anyone (again), as it was when the mount was first introduced.

Lewsifur
04-22-2020, 08:57 AM
Sadly when I added my druid to the team this weekend, it replaced my Shaman.