Mouseover and send different/modified key

[fpsware]

I'm in the process of redesigning my setup and I'm struggling to implement the follow process.

When I mover over a specific region(button/menu etc) I want to send a modified key to a specific character but the standard key press is sent to all other characters. i.e ... so I'm spamming the 1 key, as expect all characters are receiving and pressing the 1 key but when I mouse over a specific part of Character B's health bar I want to send CTRL+1 to Character B only. All other characters will continue to receive and send the unmodified 1 key.

I was playing around with a menu but this doesn't appear to be the correct approach.

[Jabberie]

Clever solution, I will be stealing it.

At the bottom of a click bar button, there is Mouseover. You can set up a two step mapped key to Step1 - vituralise your 1key and step 2 to change it back.
MiRai's video update (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbbJDTz6mTo&t=2809s)to the Pro system recently actually has this in action with the CC part. He uses it for picking up the target and dropped it on the way out. In my example above, you would have a second 1 mapped key basically that would send 1 to Combat&~2 and ctrl+1 to 2. Or however you have your ATGs set up. on the way in, it would change to 1Alternate. On the way out, it would change back to normal 1.



I have not checked if this is possible with a menu, I think not but please correct me if wrong.

[fpsware]

Shortly after I posted this I recalled seeing exactly that video. I'm in the process of reviewing it now.

My specific requirement for this is self healing for a specific character.

I spam 1 for my GSE DPS rotation, CTRL+1 is a GSE macro for self healing. Currently, when I press CTRL+1 it performs healing on all characters and that's a waste of some cooldowns. So, my idea is to implement a mouseover modifier for a specific character. While spamming 1 I mouse over an area and CTRL+1 is sent to a specific character (being in need of healing). Everyone else continues DPS and that specific character performs a nice self heal.

After reviewing some videos I'm no further along. The key difference with what I want is no additional clicking. I simply want to apply a modifier (CTRL or ALT) to whatever key is being pressed (but only sent to a specific character). I don't want to have to click a menu item or a button bar.




Clever solution, I will be stealing it.

At the bottom of a click bar button, there is Mouseover. You can set up a two step mapped key to Step1 - vituralise your 1key and step 2 to change it back.
MiRai's video update (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbbJDTz6mTo&t=2809s)to the Pro system recently actually has this in action with the CC part. He uses it for picking up the target and dropped it on the way out. In my example above, you would have a second 1 mapped key basically that would send 1 to Combat&~2 and ctrl+1 to 2. Or however you have your ATGs set up.

I have not checked if this is possible with a menu, I think not but please correct me if wrong.

[Jabberie]

You have 2 #1 mapped keys.
MK1 - sends 1 to "all"
MK1a - sends 1 to "all not 2" and crtl+1 to "2"

MKMO is 2 step. Press or Released
L virtualise #1 to use MK1a
L virtualise #1 to use MK1

on your click bar, you set the Mouseover action to be MKMO

[fpsware]

So I'm at my wits end with this, its almost working but not quite there. The frustrating thing is I don't see a logical reason for it failing.

Link to the isboxer profile.
https://pastecode.xyz/view/08445c52

This is a Pro setup... the main hotkeys are located under Fpsware - Combat Broadcast Hotkeys, follow your nose from there.

I have a single Click Bar with a single button. On Mouseover it does Do Characrer B - ALT Modified in Character Modifier Key Map -> self

The Character Modifier keymap contains 2 mapped keys (for CTRL and ALT) modification. Lets look at ALT for now...

This keymap is called Characrer B - ALT Modified and is a 2 step key. It correctly activates on enter and exit of the button but the issue appears to be with changing the virtualised key maps. In Step 1 I want to changed a specific characters virtualised key mapping. In Step 2, i change it back.

https://www.dual-boxing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2085&stc=1

The problem is it doesn't work when I use a specific character/slot. But, when I use Window: Current it works as it should but for ALL characters. I don't want this applied to all characters, just a single character. I have tried this with an ATG and when ALL characters are in the ATG it works, but the moment you try with a single character in the same ATG it simply doesn't work.

[mbox_bob]

When doing a Pro Setup, the top level mapped key, e.g. in ISB42 - Combat Broadcast Hotkeys, should be sending to an ATG. In the lower level mapped key (i.e. after virtualization), they should be sent to Window: Current.

Your issue currently, is that when you execute your mapped key from Combat Broadcast Hotkeys, it calls Virtual Combat on SELF, which then in turn calls it's virtualised mapped key, which is then being Broadcast to ATG COMBAT., so even though SLOT 2 might have changed, because you are not currently Active on SLot 2, then the Virtualization on slot 2 is not in effect.

For a properly constructed pro config, Combat Broadcast Hotkeys would call Virtual Combat on ATG, and then on each toon, they would execute the appropriate Virtual Combat replacement, but on SELF.

[fpsware]

Thanks, I'll have a play with it.

I based my setup off the wizard, not sure how it got messed up like that.



When doing a Pro Setup, the top level mapped key, e.g. in ISB42 - Combat Broadcast Hotkeys, should be sending to an ATG. In the lower level mapped key (i.e. after virtualization), they should be sent to Window: Current.

Your issue currently, is that when you execute your mapped key from Combat Broadcast Hotkeys, it calls Virtual Combat on SELF, which then in turn calls it's virtualised mapped key, which is then being Broadcast to ATG COMBAT., so even though SLOT 2 might have changed, because you are not currently Active on SLot 2, then the Virtualization on slot 2 is not in effect.

For a properly constructed pro config, Combat Broadcast Hotkeys would call Virtual Combat on ATG, and then on each toon, they would execute the appropriate Virtual Combat replacement, but on SELF.

[mbox_bob]

Thanks, I'll have a play with it.

I based my setup off the wizard, not sure how it got messed up like that.

When setting up a Pro Config via the Wizard, it would have created a Key Map called ISB42 Combat Hotkeys, which would have been the Key Map that would have triggered the Virtual Combat mapped keys.

It would have also created a bunch of Mapped Keys with very different names to those that you have in both the Combat Broadcast Hotkeys, and the Virtual Combat key map.

So, it looks like you've based it of the standard MMO config, rather than the Pro-Config, and they do stuff slightly differently.

[fpsware]

When setting up a Pro Config via the Wizard, it would have created a Key Map called ISB42 Combat Hotkeys, which would have been the Key Map that would have triggered the Virtual Combat mapped keys.

It would have also created a bunch of Mapped Keys with very different names to those that you have in both the Combat Broadcast Hotkeys, and the Virtual Combat key map.

So, it looks like you've based it of the standard MMO config, rather than the Pro-Config, and they do stuff slightly differently.

My earlier config is most definitely a Pro virtualised setup, despite not using the standard pro naming conventions. eg... DPS Rotation, AOE DPS Rotation etc.

I've gone through this again and created a fresh ISBoxer profile, I've run the wizard, added my necessary keymaps and it looks virtually the same. Also, the same issue I'm having with my initial profile.

[mbox_bob]

My earlier config is most definitely a Pro virtualised setup, despite not using the standard pro naming conventions. eg... DPS Rotation, AOE DPS Rotation etc.

I've gone through this again and created a fresh ISBoxer profile, I've run the wizard, added my necessary keymaps and it looks virtually the same. Also, the same issue I'm having with my initial profile.

Right, so if you noticed the setup, then there will be additional Key Maps.
ISB42 - Combat Hotkeys, is where you set the Hotkeys (not set by default)
ISB42 - Virtual Combat, called as the man in the middle to be replaced, but also handy as a Template for the Class specific Key Maps.

https://www.dual-boxing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2086&stc=1


There is still the ISB42 - Combat Broadcast Hotkeys and ISB42 Combat Broadcast, but this is part of the Standard MMO setup, and in MiRai's videos, he suggests deleting these, as it confuses things.

You can use the Standard MMO key maps as your base, but be aware that you will need to change all the targets around, so the "spread" of the targets happens before the virtualization, and the per class key maps have a target of Self, so each individually virtualized toon is running their specific copy, and not telling everyone else what to do.

[Jabberie]

** I'm just looking at your profile, didn't check too much after you linked that. **

You virtualizated the wrong thing in your mod switch.
change your CBH #1 > Alternate #1

Alternate #1 can just be a different mapped key in virtual and the add it into your class key map as well.
Or it can be a standalone mapped key completely.

In your example, you are changing an entire key map which is just adding work.

In atlernate#1 you can either hard code it to lots or use more ATG to be more dynamic. I always test with hardcoded slots.

I'll make an example later today.

[fpsware]

Thanks for your assistance with this.

I've been playing around with it this afternoon and I decided to recreate my profile from scratch. It took all of 30 minutes to get things up and running again AND implementing the new mouse over virtualization. I ran a few instances tonight and its working like a charm!!!!

[Jabberie]

Perfect, glad to hear.