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Evilseed
04-06-2008, 06:21 PM
Whoot finally my first BC instance on farm with 4x 61 Hunters!

All of my hunters are BM spec. 1 has a boar, the other 3 have ravagers. I have 1 boar due to PVP reasons. The charge stun is so OP when 1 second of stun guarentees you get gibbed :)

The strategy I used was basically to approach a pull, spread out hunters and each drop a freezing trap for safety, and attack 1 pet to each mob. Upon pulling the mob, I would immediately 4x heal my pets, and then immediately 4x intimidate stun. While doing standard DPSing (multishot, arcane shot, etc), I would suddenly change all pets to focus on 1 target and I would have all hunters drop that 1 target, 1 target at a time. This method was very quick to burn through the mobs up until the first boss.

First Ramparts Boss: Watchkeeper Gargolmar ('http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=17306')

The strategy here was to mark each target and apply 1 pet per target, 2 on Gargolmar. I would send in the pets with an immediate pet heal (via mend, no healers remember?). After my pets built up about 3 seconds of aggro, I would switch all targets to 1 healer and kill it fast. I'd then blow my Bestial Wrath and trinkets, and burn down the second one. All pets would focus on the main boss and he'd be toast in a few seconds.

The only hard part after this boss is on top of the stairs with those 5x guys who fear. The key here was to stack all my hunters and drop an exploding trap. All pets were set on auto aggressive mode. I then controlled 1 pet and pulled the entire group around the corner to my explosive trap. The second they hit it, I dropped another one. The BW trinket pets chewed the whole group to pieces, with some multishots to boot.

Second Ramparts Boss: Omor the Unscarred ('http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=17308')

This guy was a piece of cake. I spread out the hunters so his DOT curse AOE wouldn't do any damage. I sent in pets w/a Mend to keep their HP up, blew my BW/trinket, and went to town. When he does his AOE aura shadow damage, I pull all pets back but 1 pet, and that pet takes the bullet for the team and dies. By the time the pet is dead, the aura is done, and my other pets get aggro. My hunters easily pick up the felpuppy spawns and the boss goes down hard. The only victim here was an innocent boar named Boar :p

Third Ramparts Boss: Nazan ('http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=17536') & Vazruden ('http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=17537')

I was extremely scared of this fight. I was pretty sure I would wipe endlessly as the problems of controlling your guys around his fire are really, really problematic. I then had a stroke of genius. I rebuilt my formation keys to form a shape that would always push my hunters away from a focused fireball. When the fight started, I had the dragon man down to about 20% before the dragon landed. I decided to keep 2 pets on him, 2 on the dragon, but focus all my DPS on the dragon. I rotated pet tanks via intimidation aggro pulls and noticed my 2 pets on the man had already chewed him to dust. I sent all 4 pets onto the dragon while navigating my hunters around a couple fireballs with ease. 2 pets died in the attempt, but the dragon went down hard.

Healers and Tanks? Overrated :)

Lyonheart
04-06-2008, 06:30 PM
verry nice! good job! 5 hunters would make it even easier ehh ?

maqz
04-06-2008, 06:33 PM
Great work. :thumbup:

I rebuilt my formation keys to form a shape that would always push my hunters away from a focused fireball.Moving away from the fire is difficult, I have trouble with that. There's always one guy on fire somewhere. I didn't understand your trick above, you mean you move them as one, away from fire? Or move them apart?

Evilseed
04-06-2008, 06:42 PM
Great work. :thumbup:

Moving away from the fire is difficult, I have trouble with that. There's always one guy on fire somewhere. I didn't understand your trick above, you mean you move them as one, away from fire? Or move them apart?My formation key is a key I hold down to spread my guys out like this:

0....0
0....0

If I hold the key down longer, it looks like this:

0...........0
0...........0


So when a fireball hits my A character, which is grouped like this:

0

I hold my formation key which turns it into this (X being the fireball aoe on the ground)

0...........0
......X.....
0.......... 0

Most of the time my hunters will still be in range to DPS the boss nicely :p

Evilseed
04-06-2008, 06:45 PM
verry nice! good job! 5 hunters would make it even easier ehh ?Well my 5th spot is reserved for my healer. I have a 66 priest I believe I am going to use. I just need to figure out the best way to do healing with my hunter mainscreened and my priest on a small screen.

thinus
04-06-2008, 06:53 PM
Didn't your pets tanking the dragon get chewed up by the fire?

Ughmahedhurtz
04-06-2008, 07:19 PM
Pet spec max rank fire resist? :P Respeccing pets is so damn cheap (or used to be) that you can almost respec them for max resists for every dungeon you go in.

Evilseed
04-06-2008, 08:57 PM
Actually my pets have max shadow resistance. Near 50% fear resists ftw :)

peb33
04-06-2008, 09:07 PM
stop abusing this game its already crazy enough and with u cheating its even crazier

OMG I <3 teh cock.

kllrwlf
04-06-2008, 09:39 PM
stop abusing this game its already crazy enough and with u cheating its even crazier

Another troll... or maybe the same troll

Ughmahedhurtz
04-07-2008, 02:03 AM
stop abusing this game its already crazy enough and with u cheating its even crazierROFL. Did you trip and fall on a baby rattle?

elo
04-07-2008, 07:51 AM
That's wicked man! I love it! The non conventional groups totally rock. Back in the day (before I /knew/ better) my buddies and I would run SM with 3 rogues, a healer, and a mage or some such. Later with my lock I'd do 4lock 1mage runs of SM (all playing individual characters). People thought I was nuts when I advertised in LFG for more locks but we would just mow the place down.

Keep it up and keep posting your exploits!

As for the troll, welcome! I've been wondering where all of you are, guess most of you aren't willing to take on 1,000+ multiboxers in a forum flame-fest. Can't blame ya. If your post was remotely related to a discussion I'd engage but since it's not I'll wait for another.

ciao!

Havelcek
04-07-2008, 08:35 AM
I hold my formation key which turns it into this (X being the fireball aoe on the ground)

0...........0
......X.....
0.......... 0
Could you elaborate on this a bit? You are doing this with a single key?

Thanks, nice work...

Jaws5
04-07-2008, 09:41 AM
Hunters are OPed in normal instances. Heriocs eats most pets very quickly. Pets can not over come crushing blow and each mob hits for 2k. if you pet is speced for max shadow and and rest fire you do not have much left over for stm and armor. I have parked my 4 hunters at 29 , but will start moving them. pvp with 4 hunters is too fun.

at 70 you will be able to clr ramparts with one hunter.(BM spec)

great work on movement key and having fun. btw hunter Orc FTW?

Evilseed
04-07-2008, 10:21 AM
Yea it certainly is unconventional to run a BC instance without a tank or healer :)

The thing I love about hunters is running battlegrounds. They are so much more deadly than shamans. Shamans do have a few things that are nice, but the ability to quickly move and dish out huge damage, as well as the safety of BM pets, is such a huge amount of fun it is unbelievable.

How they will fare in 5v5 arenas is still unknown. I'm guessing my initial strategy will be a BW*4 rush to kill their healer, then FD/snake trap, and kill 1 more. Then 5v3 should take care of itself. I hope :)