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Brandish
09-05-2017, 06:35 PM
Hello,

I'm dangerously close to returning to WoW and multiboxing.

Questions:

1. Is /follow still disabled for PvP? If so, how are people dealing with PvP battlegrounds?

2. Is Jamba still around? Or what main MB addon is recommended?

3. Have they changed the macroing system in important ways for multiboxers?

4. Any links to game setup info? ... I recall having scripts to hardlink/symlink certain files to 5 "working" directories for efficiency and separation of accounts.

5. Any other general recommendations? I left before Garrisons, etc. Will need guides/walkthroughs for leveling, etc.

Thanks.

MiRai
09-05-2017, 11:27 PM
Welcome back. :)


1. Is /follow still disabled for PvP? If so, how are people dealing with PvP battlegrounds?
To answer your question, as it's written, is: No, follow is not disabled for PvP, but it is disabled in random/rated battlegrounds, war games, and Ashran's open-world PvP zone.


2. Is Jamba still around? Or what main MB addon is recommended?
JAMBA is still around—it's actively discussed and has two stickied threads in the WoW Macro & Addons sub-forum (http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/14-Macros-and-Addons).


3. Have they changed the macroing system in important ways for multiboxers?
I'm going to say no, but I don't know what you remember about all of it.


4. Any links to game setup info? ... I recall having scripts to hardlink/symlink certain files to 5 "working" directories for efficiency and separation of accounts.
With a few different choices of software to use, you'd have to be more specific. I would assume that the vast majority of multiboxers today use ISBoxer, so symlinks are completely unnecessary unless you have a very specific reason for using them.


5. Any other general recommendations? I left before Garrisons, etc. Will need guides/walkthroughs for leveling, etc.
I don't personally know of any guides since leveling is the same as it's been for awhile now, but perhaps someone else knows something useful. Other than that, I'm pretty terrible with general recommendations, but as you keep thinking of questions, just ask them and people can answer.

Brandish
09-06-2017, 02:16 AM
Thank you for the reply.

Guess it has been more like 3+ years, based on Blizzard's "Time Expired On" field, on the account pages. (And my signature, lol. I did the hunt and then the account time expired in February.)

I've just bought my Legion copies.

I guess I will just jump right in... I don't even know what to ask.

Oh, the hard-linking of files was someone's theory that the OS could handle them easier if it knew it was the same file being loaded 5 times, or some such.

Ughmahedhurtz
09-06-2017, 05:33 PM
Yeah, that hard-link thing isn't needed for ISBoxer.

As for the macro changes, I think the last major change that affected us negatively was the fall-through nerf. If you are planning to use ISBoxer, look up Pro config (https://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/47214-HOWTO-Configure-ISBoxer-(key-maps)-like-a-pro-all-games) and "multi-step" mapped keys (example (https://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/47938-The-MoP-Macro-Library?p=392577&viewfull=1#post392577)). The combination of those two renders most of the "workarounds" we used in the past obsolete.

Brandish
09-07-2017, 02:14 AM
I use the other software ;-)

ebony
09-07-2017, 08:52 AM
As for Jamba I took over at the start of wod,

I done a lot to it. Changed a lot of code... added so much it's been fun and stessful.

Or though am still thinking about doing a add on I can call my own. But it's a lot of work but it could work out better in the long run.

Brandish
09-07-2017, 08:04 PM
Thanks for maintaining Jamba!

Brandish
09-07-2017, 08:08 PM
Still not in game, yet. Looking through the WTF directory on my old main computer, and deciding what to pull over. Then I figure several hours for getting AddOns updated. Then I remember I don't have an SSD in yet, so I'll have to slap one in.

Is there anything special about the WoW install.... I'd like to just copy it onto the SSD, and also onto my side computers, instead of DLing again and again.

Wubsie
09-08-2017, 05:19 AM
WoW is still a "portable" installation as far as I know, so you can just copy the full directory.

Brandish
09-17-2017, 12:18 AM
Thanks, Wubsie!

OK. Whew. Between my bank freaking at the sudden multiple charges and Blizzard's fraud detection canceling my orders... it's been a hell of a couple weeks. Went to the bank on Friday and had a suspicious extra $300 in the account, which was supposed to have paid for the Deluxe special they were running for Labor Day weekend. Finally got that fixed after hours and hours battling in the ticket system. They were friendly, just not too helpful, and failing to recognize this was across multiple account and not just the one I had the ticket running on. It's all good now. (Yes, sue me I played tons of Starcraft II during the interim.)

New question: Opinions on merging accounts? Since I haven't played in so long, none of my mounts/pets/toys are "in the new system" and I'm told that will happen when I log in the first time.

It was suggested that I consider if I wanted to merge my accounts to share all of that stuff between them, since pre-login "would be the time to do it."

Which way do people prefer? Right now, my accounts are separate but on the same authenticator, so I get a code, and can broadcast that and be logged in.
This also means I get the pleasure of farming for pets/mounts/toys for each account. This is both semi-fun, but also a semi-pain-in-the-ass.

Maybe merging them onto two accounts? To both spread the mounts coverage, and to leave room in case i want to 10-box later on?

Guess it comes down to how much hassle is logging the accounts all at once.

MiRai
09-17-2017, 11:51 AM
To quote myself:

"There is no reason1 not to have all of your WoW accounts on the same BNet account."

1there might be a reason, but it's highly subjective


Maybe merging them onto two accounts? To both spread the mounts coverage, and to leave room in case i want to 10-box later on?
Sure, you could do that, but I think the problem is... How will you know which accounts have what prior to logging them in to see? What if you guess wrong and a rare mount ends up on the second BNet account when you wanted it on the first?


Guess it comes down to how much hassle is logging the accounts all at once.
There is no hassle whatsoever.

Brandish
09-17-2017, 08:25 PM
Thanks for the reply.

I have a list of the "important" mounts and which accounts have them, so I could choose the merges that way. Even if I miss, I'd only have to get one more drop. (The list is short, Headless Horseman and Ashes of Alar)

A buddy was running merged accounts, and way back he had to get several authenticator codes written down over a few minutes, before using them all at once to log in. Has that behavior changed? Or is it that they now buffer how often you enter the codes, so this mini-"hassle" is only once per week?

Support said there was still an 8 account per BNet limit, so if I merge, and 10-box, I'd rather it end up as 2 groups of 5 that have good mount/pet/toy coverage.

MiRai
09-17-2017, 11:56 PM
A buddy was running merged accounts, and way back he had to get several authenticator codes written down over a few minutes, before using them all at once to log in. Has that behavior changed? Or is it that they now buffer how often you enter the codes, so this mini-"hassle" is only once per week?
I've had an authenticator since before we were forced to put our WoW accounts into a BNet account, and I've never written down any codes so that I could log in my accounts. If you get hit with an authenticator pop-up, you just enter it on one account, then bring it back to the login screen, and continue logging into all of your accounts simultaneously.

Outside of changing hardware or IP, or unless you've specifically set your account to ask for an authenticator every time, I've no idea what prompts an authenticator pop-up—I see them only a few times a month, if that.

Brandish
09-18-2017, 03:10 AM
Good deal.

Also, the Armory is showing me who has what mounts, so that makes that part easier.

Brandish
09-19-2017, 11:09 PM
OK. Regarding merging Blizzard/BNet accounts or moving WoW licenses from one Bnet to another... it just cannot be done in a way that makes sense for the player, for seasoned accounts.. The pool of Mounts/Pets/Toys doesn't get merged, but would merely inherit the Blizzard account items that licenses would move to.

So.... if you are starting out... keep everything on as few Blizzard accounts as you can (8 WoW license limit per Blizzard account) as MiRai says.
If you are adding new accounts... yeah, add them to you existing account(s).

For me? I'm pretty much out of luck. My "main" account is missing some key mounts so moving WoWs over would be a loss for me.

Also, they are trying to called main account/launcher "Blizzard" now instead of "Battlenet"... which make things harder to talk about, IMO.