Anarchy Online - Brainstorming

[Korruptor]

Hey All,

I am not sure how many here are familiar with classes in AO but here is the setup I'm looking to try:

Doctor x1 - healer and HP buffer, uses a debuff on the target to slow it's attack speed by an incredible amount and has 3 stacking DoT's
Soldier x4 - The core DPS class, they have the best ranged Alpha in AO and 4 of them on one target just sounds beautiful - have shields and massive self only mitigation abilities for short periods
Trader or MP x1 - Buffer/Support for the group, decent DPS but nothing special, CC abilities

Pro: One benefit of using the 4 soldiers engineers is the incredible Alpha damage
Con: Far more expensive due to the requirement of needed player made weapons, harder to upgrade to keep all Soldiers up to snuff

Or..

Doctor x1 - healer and HP buffer, uses a debuff on the target to slow it's attack speed by an incredible amount and has 3 stacking DoT's
Engineers x4 - these guys have the biggest and baddest pets, although there is no alpha attack per se in this setup the sustained DPS is very good and each main bot is a tank in it's own right followed by a DPS pet (imagine having a VoidWalker and a Succubus at the same time), later in the game the engineers would augment DPS with a ranged weapon
Trader or MP x1 - Buffer/Support for the group, decent DPS but nothing special, CC abilities

Pro: One benefit of using the 4 engineers over soldiers is you can send your pets around corners etc preventing line of sight attacks on the group, 8 total pets would make short work of any non-boss mobs
Pro: Cheaper, by far.
Con: Slower DPS, weak alpha.


So to sum up...
more durability, off-tanking pets or more alpha damage?

Thank!

[Gurblash]

Aaahhh Anarchy Online loved that game.

4x Engineers is a bit overkill I'd say. 1 engineer buffed correctly can solo RED missions.

my dream setup would be...

Doc
Fixer - Grid warp, Speed Buffs, 5min Hot
Trader - Debuffs ftw and also being able to boost your own guys is helpful for twinking imps.
Crat - XP boosts are awesome
Soldier(s)
Also an MP buff bot is always helpful.

Doc, Fixer, Trader, Soldiers x2 - would be a good group setup.

Have always wanted to go back and play AO again since the finding of the MB community and its tools. And since its a free2play game now, minus the ShadowLands and Lost Eden content, it might be fun to casually play.

RK1 - 220 Fixer, 220 Doc, 220 MA, 220 NT

[Korruptor]

Thanks for the feedback :)

Yep it might seem overkill to have 4 of one class but the focus is on simplicity & DPS, this group would be used for running SL missions and I'd rather end the fight fast then have it last longer for something to go wrong. With a Doc I have really no need of Fixer Hot's and Crat exp perks are best only in conjunction with a heck kiting team for maximum effect.

So back to my original question:

more durability & off-tanking pets
or
more alpha damage?

Btw, just so you know they now have a $5 per month plan for the original game + SL (doesn't work if you have any other expansions like AI or LE)

[Gurblash]

just so you know they now have a $5 per month plan for the original game + SL
Wow thats a GREAT deal to be honest.

Unforunately I havn't theorycrafted AO in possibly 18 months so I can't really add to much to the actual question without knowing the hard numbers Engy Pets put out vs. 4x Alpha Soldiers. Hope there are more ex/current AO members of the forums, although I don't know of any publicly.

[Eteocles]

I made an account when they offered "Free 1 year accounts" to everyone who signed up by January of 06 or something...I liked the game but had issues soloing deep into the sewers...is it still possible to get free accounts or /follow? Id' be tempted to play around with it some...

[Gurblash]

the game is easy to Multibox. Has a /follow and /target command. Might boot up a few trial accounts this weekend and test it with KeyClone and do a run from 1-15 with 5guys just for shits.
And AFAIK its still free to play unless you want to get access to any of the Expansion content.

[Korruptor]

Whats the current favorite of WoW multiboxing?

I see some running 5 shaman, some 1 priest and 4 mages etc, which seems to work better?

The better resilience setups with lower DPS or the higher DPS (mage) setups?

EDIT:
The best thing about AO is that your characters can be set to autoattack when hit and also autoface when in combat.

[Gurblash]

Current 'popular' choices are 5x Shaman or 1xPally/4xShaman, those seem to be the most common. Although people are always comming up with whacky and new group setups.

[Korruptor]

Sweet, thanks for the info!

Edit:
Here is a link to the vid showing the new graphics engine they will bring in later this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRmk0hZam7A

And here is for the registration of a new free account if you're so inclined :) (RK1 hint hint)
https://register.funcom.com/account/

[Gurblash]

Here is a link to the vid showing the new graphics engine they will bring in later this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRmk0hZam7A

Funcom has been saying 'later this year' for about 3 years. I'll believe it when I see it, just another Dev team that can't meet deadlines.

[Smegster]

omg! AO :P i really want to play this now, just made 4 accounts for the testing.. never do 5 just incase i want a random in group.

my issue is my internet connection. on WoW im fine on 4 accounts alsong as im out in the zones fighting... if i hit a city or AV i just get owned by dissconection that sucks a little bit.

ive got told that AO uses alot more bandwidth than other games such as WoW etc. i dont know if it will effect most people but im sure it would effect me :(

well 1gb of download for game :P ^^ leave that goin for a wee while hehe.

ill let yall know how it goes. ^^

[TheXevs]

Kinda funny, played AO since beta - really surprised I stayed through it with the horrible, horrible bugs and lack of customer support those first couple of years. Even up to a couple of years ago when I stopped playing it was still pretty ridiculously bug ridden. The new engine looks nice, however.

For the OP, I would actually go with 5xpistol soldiers and a doc and just be done with it. ;)

(btw, if anyone knew my toons: Bruise, Lumus, Timbuk, Zexar, Indicate, Seisma, Seismu, etc. - heya!)

-Xeva

[TheXevs]

And BTW, I always thought a full team of coordinated agents at a tower fight would be lawltasic. ;)

-Xeva

[hxc]

I've been tempted for a while to try multiboxing AO with keyclone.
I used to mess about playing three toons at one point, after the froob accounts came out, but it was more of an alt-tab job :p

Has nobody considered a group of meta-physicists?

5x healpets, 5x tankpets, 5x dpspets (each MP can have one of each type out at the same time) + 5x nukes...

[TheXevs]

I've been tempted for a while to try multiboxing AO with keyclone.
I used to mess about playing three toons at one point, after the froob accounts came out, but it was more of an alt-tab job :p

Has nobody considered a group of meta-physicists?

5x healpets, 5x tankpets, 5x dpspets (each MP can have one of each type out at the same time) + 5x nukes...

Well technically there is only 1 damage type pet which could also tank I suppose. You get the heal pet + a 'mez' pet that basically keeps stuff sedated and out of combat. I knew some MPs with crazy (insane) defense/evades and could pretty much tank anything so the team setup would probably be ok.

Just as aside, am I totally on crack or isn't the number players in a team 6 in AO?

-Xeva

[Gurblash]

Just as aside, am I totally on crack or isn't the number players in a team 6 in AO?

Correct 6 is the lucky number for groups in AO.

[Smegster]

i know range is alwyas best to go for boxers on games, but was just thinking..... 6 Martial artist be fun, you never really have to worry about weapons for your toons :P very high burst damage if u spec full dps rather than health etc. dont think ill do that tho lol

im jsut gnna start 3 agents and a crat or 3 soldiers and a trader... not made up my mind yet :P hehe

ooo i cant wait... i know thats sad sayin that to such an old game but dude! its AO :P one of first online games i ever played.... good times..

[TheXevs]

i know range is alwyas best to go for boxers on games, but was just thinking..... 6 Martial artist be fun, you never really have to worry about weapons for your toons :P very high burst damage if u spec full dps rather than health etc. dont think ill do that tho lol

im jsut gnna start 3 agents and a crat or 3 soldiers and a trader... not made up my mind yet :P hehe

ooo i cant wait... i know thats sad sayin that to such an old game but dude! its AO :P one of first online games i ever played.... good times..

Friend recently told me that MAs aren't the god mode they used to be. Evades got nerfed a ton apparently. Don't know any details beyond that, unfortunately. It really depends on what you want to do once you hit 220/30 (if you intend to go that far). PVP was the most compelling reason for playing that game for me - city zergs and tower wars. But it's been years so no idea what it's even like now. There are battlegrounds (ala WSG) - who know. ;)

-Xeva

[Smegster]

Noooo! :(.. dang. i loved my old MA .. only got lvl 150 on him but he was the bees knees! :( i used to fight things that tanks used to fight and come out of it with more health than them. i suppose they are like the dps class still just... no staying power :( damn.

o well... im sure agents are still as overpowerd as ever :P hehe :) ty on tellin me i would of started a MA as my solo and got to about lvl 40 and realised it was pants compared to it used to be :P hehe.

was 10% away from finishing download and they changed the file on website to a more update one and it stopped my current download... have to start it all over again :P hehe.

should start a Zerg org on it for if anyone ever plays it for laughs now and then :P

[torytrae]

I think AO was the first game i dual-boxed, or was it DAoC? Dont remember what was first :)

Anyway, in AO i had a Meta plus an Engi. Powerful Duo because the meta could buff the engi so much, my engi could summon a way-above-his lv pet ... then simply let the meta healpet follow the robot and go /pet hunt or something, and the robo will clear the whole mission for you while you are afk ;) was fun!

I would prolly go for 4 Engi + 1 Meta :D

[d0z3rr]

Is there a command similiar to /assist? Cuz that would suck having to manually target on 6 different characters.

Looking forward to more updates on how multiboxing AO goes.

[Mac]

Sweet, thanks for the info!

Edit:
Here is a link to the vid showing the new graphics engine they will bring in later this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRmk0hZam7A

And here is for the registration of a new free account if you're so inclined :) (RK1 hint hint)
https://register.funcom.com/account/

I was interested in this game and made a froob doc but was kind of turned off on the graphics because it looked dated compared to other games. I'd be interested in checking it out again if they ever get it done.

[Smegster]

ok correct me if im wrong it was along time ago but if your in a team ( this might be different game im thinkin of ) you all target main character and whatever main is fighting if u press attack it attacks main target without loosing the main as ur target.... not sure if that made any sense.... i think it was AO that used to do that.. but not sure ^^ may of changed it at some point.

yea i remeber i made an engi on test realm and because u get given like 100mill credits to do as u wish and buffs from all the 'ark' prople i could solo thats temple of winds at lvl 20 summit.. when its a lvl 20-60 instance or somthing lol... was all good :D

[Korruptor]

My findings so far on multi boxing AO...

Using 4 engineers seemed like the right choice for a couple of reasons:
They have the highest DPS pets (Mech Dog and Bot)
Their pets don't have a time limit before dissapearing
Engineers have multiple aura's that they can only use one at a time, so each engi would use a different one and the effects stack
Engi's also get refreshing buff that absorbs special attacks on all team members
...many more

So you guys know about the limitations of the /follow command:
breaks very easily due to any kind of lag
doesn't take a name argument (/follow Korruptor)

There is no /target command either making it very difficult to setup /follow macro's.

So far i've only been able to move my team around using a function key in a macro like this (in my n52)
F3 (this targets whoever is the third person in the group in relation to the that group member)
delay for a few milliseconds
4 (this is the hotbar slot that has my /follow macro)

What this does is it forms the group in a long line since it makes a /follow chain (A /follows B, B /follows C, C /follows D etc).
So when I wish to engage in a fight, my last group member is wayyyyyy behind the leader even to far for reasonable ranged combat, especially if I had to round a corner also making melee is out of the question. So pets work best.

With 2 or more accounts running on a single box I find that i need to fire of the /follow macro above every 2 seconds or so because it breaks so quickly- so yes it's a pain.

Another issue is with using /assist
Whoever your /assist 'ing (/assist Korruptor does work) must be in combat in order for the /assist command to work. In combat is defined as your character is at least winding up for an attack either ranged or melee on a given target. If your main character is attacked it doesn't necessarily put him into combat, only if he retaliates.

I am testing a n52 macro to send the pets that works roughly like this:
Q (Q is the default command for starting combat on your selected target)
delay (20 milliseconds)
3 (3 is the hotbar slot on all my engineers that has the /assist macro along with /pet attack command)
delay (20 milliseconds)
3 (I repeat this a few times since lag sometimes causes some slave accounts not to get the first command)
delay (20 milliseconds)
Q (Q again ends combat, after all I want the pets to take the hits and not me)

So this starts combat, sends the pets to attack and then quickly ends combat.

So at this point the ability and ease of AO multiboxing feels rather limited to me.

Here is the link to a great AO scripting tool:
www.unityoftherose.com/tools/aoscripter.htm ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/www.unityoftherose.com/tools/aoscripter.htm')

and another useful link of AO tools:
www.halorn.com ('www.halorn.com')

[Gurblash]

I am testing a n52 macro to send the pets that works roughly like this:
Q (Q is the default command for starting combat on your selected target)
delay (20 milliseconds)
3 (3 is the hotbar slot on all my engineers that has the /assist macro along with /pet attack command)
delay (20 milliseconds)
3 (I repeat this a few times since lag sometimes causes some slave accounts not to get the first command)
delay (20 milliseconds)
Q (Q again ends combat, after all I want the pets to take the hits and not me)

Just an FYI, to my knowledge, I don't think Funcom approves of delayed macros. Would be best not to mention macros with delays unless its noted that its approved by their TOS/EULA.

Anyways, havn't had much time last few days to play my 3 man team. Running Doc/2 Soldier on my laptop. Manually follow my doc with both soldiers and minimize their windows to help with the Main windows performance.

0 /assist XGurb. 1 attack, 2 Flingshot, 3 Burst. on my Soldiers
1 attack, 4 heal. on my doc.

Using keyclone, I block f1-f6 from passing so that I can select party members with the doc that way.

Only got the group up to lvl 12 so don't have much to input really. Characters arn't developed.

Biggest annoyance thus far... distributing IPs UGH!

[Korruptor]

I am testing a n52 macro to send the pets that works roughly like this:
Q (Q is the default command for starting combat on your selected target)
delay (20 milliseconds)
3 (3 is the hotbar slot on all my engineers that has the /assist macro along with /pet attack command)
delay (20 milliseconds)
3 (I repeat this a few times since lag sometimes causes some slave accounts not to get the first command)
delay (20 milliseconds)
Q (Q again ends combat, after all I want the pets to take the hits and not me)

Just an FYI, to my knowledge, I don't think Funcom approves of delayed macros. Would be best not to mention macros with delays unless its noted that its approved by their TOS/EULA.

AO != WoW

Every thread on the official forums dealing in scripting suggest the use of delays and unlike WoW, AO scripting does allow you to do multiple commands with a single keystroke.
http://arcanum.aodevs.com/gametech_basicscripts.html
http://uorweb.com/tools/aoscripter.htm
http://forums.anarchy-online.com/showthread.php?t=27742

I'm glad you're not having the same problem with /follow as I am, maybe i've jacked up my boxes somehow or have Octopus setup incorrectly.

[Gurblash]

You can use delays in macros in AO the same way you can make delays in WoW using the /in command. They are for social emotes and speach only. You can't within the games limits write a script to burst fire, delay 0.5seconds, rapid fire, delay 0.5 seconds then wait 1sec and use a medic pack.

So again I say using delays with your KB/N52 for Combat scripted sequences would be against EULA/TOS.

[Korruptor]

You're right. Brain fart on my part, my bad :)

So outside game macro's are hush hush - gotcha.

Edit: Disabled Key broadcasting in Octopus and /follow works like it should.

[Tehtsuo]

Well, all this talk has me interested. I've been looking for a good backup game to play when I'm burnt out on WoW but still allows me to enjoy multiboxing. (Playing solo just seems boring to me now) Got the game downloading at home while I'm at work, and I created 6 accounts before I left this morning. I might not have much time to work on it this weekend, cause I've got to make the most of AV weekend. If any of you see me, say hi!

[Korruptor]

What have I started lol

Welcome to AO!

Edit: Tehtsuo, make your characters on RK1 (Atlantean), send me a pm when you've made your characters.

[Tehtsuo]

I made part of my characters on rk1, but I had troubles cause I couldn't see all of my characters. Does Anarchy use multiple servers like guildwars, or are there just multiple starting areas for each race?

[Korruptor]

Certain zones are instanced, the nubi island is one of them, if you make your way to the Teleport Tower, (down the beach, right turn into the tunnel, up the ramp, past the fight with aliens, and up the short ramp, the large door just to the right of "Travis Molten") you can all meet up there and group up and when you zone out all your toons will be in the same instance.

[Gurblash]

To find out what server number you are in press shift+f9 to get zone details.

[Smegster]

:D, started last week and have to say im addicted :P lol!, pity cant set it all up like maximizer tho :( bit annoing alt tabbin/clicking on each screen to bring forward.

first i just started solo to get used to the game again but after i got to lvl 20... took about 5 hours :S lol. decided to start ma team.

first off i started 2x soldiers to get used to dual side of things.. omg was it confusing... kept wanting to do everything like WoW. targeting was main bummer to begin with.. kept trying to use the in built /assist crap but really not worth it. Tab target mostly directs you to same thing ( game is soloable so who cares if 1 attacks a different target )

now i started 4x MP >:) at moment i have only damage pets... ( only level 6 ) but when i hit up with the healing pets watch out. ) only problem i think would focus target healing.....

need to get all players targeting friendly ( sounds way easyer than it is ) and gettin them all to heal same guy... ergh....



ive got around your 'train follow'... my guys run around looking like WoW all on top of each other :P lol.

what i do is;

Quickbar 2

Follower 1: Slot 2, /follow

Follower 2: slot 3, /follow

keep doing for as many chars you have.. so slot 4 slot 5 etc, then i just do F2... slot 2.... F3.....slot 3.... etc etc... faster than it sounds... plus follow is hard to break, it stays on unless you move the char manually at all. so u can do all your attacks.. spells and stuff :)

if you dont understand any of this OR have better ways of following please reply :P

PLAY IT! :D

cheers

EDIT: OOOO and i heard from a Bug Hunter on Test Server that new graphics Should be updated in a few months... so hopefully that will bring life back to AO and hopefully some Boxers

[Korruptor]

Yeah the train /follow thing was because my key broadcaster was breaking the follow for some reason even though the arrow keys weren't on the white list.

I'm glad you're enjoying AO.

Here is a great sight like wowhead:
www.auno.org
www.aomainframe.info


and if you're running the froob (free game) here is your forum (since free accounts can't post on the official forums):
www.aofroobs.com

[Smegster]

ooo thanks :D your a star.

will have to join you sumtime on there.. im sure you will show me up with all your fancy skills but be fun tearing up some citys with pets and stuff :D

[Smegster]

Korruptor, when you tell a pet to 'Guard' somthing it attacks what it attacks yes?, just thinking for ease would you tell all your pets to guard your main pet and then u can just click things and tell your main to attack then all you alt pets will fight?

is this correct or have i got the guard function all messed up? :P hehe.

now thinking 4x soldier rather than engi... pets are crazy! they run all over the place :P lol

[Korruptor]

Korruptor, when you tell a pet to 'Guard' somthing it attacks what it attacks yes?, just thinking for ease would you tell all your pets to guard your main pet and then u can just click things and tell your main to attack then all you alt pets will fight?

is this correct or have i got the guard function all messed up? :P hehe.

now thinking 4x soldier rather than engi... pets are crazy! they run all over the place :P lolUnfortunately no, /pet guard only defaults to guarding the owner of the pet and will auto engage anything hostile nearby.

Yeah pet pathing has always been an issue, seems a bit more so in AO then some others.

[Eteocles]

Pet AI didn't seem so bad when I played...you wanna see bad pathing, play either Shattered Galaxy(PC) or Heroes of Mana(Nintendo DS)...the latter will make you honestly, seriously wonder if a retarded jar of mayonnaise did the pathing programming, and again, I'm not fucking kidding, it was THAT bad lol

I'll give AO a shot eventually...I do still have my old install I think but I've got so many things to keep up with as it is and so little time to play I haven't gotten around to it yet =\

[Smegster]

the latter will make you honestly, seriously wonder if a retarded jar of mayonnaise did the pathing programming


hahaha soz that just made me laugh my ass off :P

....

just got my first bit of abuse on AO, standing outside Rome Basic store as you do when a lvl 220 Engi comes up to me and says im abuseing froobs accounts and that i would be overpowerd and have unfair advatage.

i just ignored him and then suddenly everyone started goin at me like just becasue 1 person does not like it.. people were being nice to me before engi came along as soon as he sed summit i was the bad guy :S

has any others got any abuse yet?

[Korruptor]

Sorry to hear that. Bad apple are everywhere you go, and yes i've gotten flack for running around with my engis but i've never heard anyone mention froob abuse.

It's no different then wow just reply "solo is the new noob" and do the flip-off emote.

[Smegster]

lol ye, i do feel bad in a way useing free account but how else am i going to know what it would be like without paying from the off....

onyl reason people get SL is for buffs and higher xp in some zones... with boxing you dont need the buffs :P u kill so fast it does not matter :P

gave up on engis.. pet pathing was doin my head in.... looked freakin awsome when the pets ran at it like they should... but when u say attack and suddenly oooohhh why are my pets swimming out to sea!?! it kinda gets annoing getting them back again...

got 4x soldier and gotta say am loveing it.. '1 hit' killed all the bosses around shore and 3 hit killed the droid bosses with autoshot, burst and flig shot ^^ :D

BEST thing about soldiers is.... you dont have to use nano to do freakin awsome damage :P hehe... i am level 11 and still in shuttle.. im like2 hitting the aliens that run from ship :P hehe.



btw korrup are you clan omni or neut? need to meet up with you at some point :P hehe ^^



btw sorry if i go on abit.. am just loveing AO :P

[Korruptor]

I am near always Omni but I've considered not siding at least one of my Engi's (staying neutral) so that I can run him through clan cities and use beacon-warp to warp group members to where the engi is.

Being neutral has advantages as well as drawbacks.

Neutral's can't collect tokens for a token board but some alternative substitutes do exist. (do an auno.org search for neck items... Experimental Cyborg Token Board... Nanite Board.. Collar collaso de cripta) I may not have recalled some of those correctly.
Neutral's have the option to use both faction's grid points and whompah's (just avoid Tir when you're above lvl 20, Neutral are KoS there).
Neutral's have the lowest exp bonus modifier compared to both clan and omni, this has to with land control warfare, neutrals are the smallest faction so they don't hold much ground.
It's easier to get into a neutral organization (guild).

Look on the official forums under the "new arrivals" sub forum.

Cheers!

[Smegster]

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/1166/gimboidxh6.th.jpg ('http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gimboidxh6.jpg')

As you can see i opted for Omni :P and gotta say i look quite good :thumbup: , just after i took it sum1 said in OT OCC ' OMG new npc guards in basic store :P lol, always funny.

now ya know my name :P well... if u can see it :P lol.

give us a /tell when ur on :D

[Smegster]

added a adv to group and disables xp on all soldier and boosted up to same lvl.. all at lvl 26 now and downed last boss in subway... ( guy with big medievel mace looking things as fists :P )

but 1 soldier did die :(

would of taken video but was all in the moment :P hehe

anyone else been playing or is it just me that is sad and keeps playing it? :P

[PyrostasisTDK]

Anyone know if keyclone works with the game?

Also, can you run multiple instances per pc?

[Smegster]

yes keyclone does work, nothing different to running it on WoW.

and yes if u run AO in window u can hav as many as u like, it just comes up sayin there is another AO client open wtf you doing... then ses u want to open it anyway.. and ya just click the little box that ses Yes.... yes i do :D... im totaly hooked :D

started another bunch of chars, 4x NT and 1x Doc. Holy crap... ive been playing them 2 days and they are lvl 48 :D AoE nuke like uve never nuked before! :D

annoing now becasue i can lure all of Totw up to 1st boss ( defender of the three ) and plow them all down but they just gone ot of xp range :(

but a MP is a NT's best friend omg mochams are awsome :D hehe can 3 hit kill (defender of the three) and 1 hit kill and normal in there :D love it

i highly suggest this if u want to nuke nuke nuke. ( bosses are hard at first ) but when u get a decent team heal on doc you can last forever ( well aslong as ur nano points last on NT's ^^ )

[PyrostasisTDK]

I havent played AO since release. I do remember doing missions and such at the low levels, but as I got to my 40's the mission terminals started giving me missions that were in extremely hard to reach places, or in places I had never heard of or hard to find.

I kept hoping the missions would be easy and right next to the terminal... but...guess thats to easy hehe.

So, are the missions still a trek? or are they close to the terms?

Are there good ip specing guides? I remember gimping my doc back in the day on accident, and not having anyway to respec was basically a lost toon.

Are there ways to respec?

[Smegster]

lol :P

Missions: yes, you do get the missions where it will want you to go across the world, but this is easy to get around, with a few addons OR a program.

Addon is a better planet map viewer... it shows you where all the portals take you in the world... so if you roll a mission in... lets say Rome.. and it wants you to goto Newland ( across other side of world ) it would only take you 2 mins to get there by taking... 4 portals.. ( whompahs or wateva they called ) OR you can use grid with same method.. if u know there is a grid portal near mission... so its just looking for missions on planet maps NEAR your faction portals ( or neutral ). if that sounds complicated it is at first.. AO is a very steep learning curve but it is very enjoyable to play. Map addon is called CSPMap.

Second Method is to Download a program called clicksaver/mishbuddy. all it does is when you click on a mission terminal you open this program out of AO and it scans the terminal lots and lots and lots of times untill it meets the requirements what you put in...

http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=RGalleryImageWrapper&itemID=79&type=image

at the top u can set it to find missions in your location or a location of your choosing... OR better find mission with an item you wish to get, this is very good because u can find things that people will pay alot of money fgor that increase stats etc. think ive gone on about that long enough.

Ip changes: There has always been a IP changer, but you only get the 'reset points' everytime you reach a new title rank... i think the first one is lvl 10

think there are 5 or 6 title ranks im not too sure.. but if you ever go wrong u just get naked... no rlly u need to get naked to do it :P ... dont ask.... and go into your skill window and click reset all skills OR individual skills.

although be careful not to spend all the skillpoints you get all in the first few things you see.... i did a reset before and decided just to go through every window 1 by one maxing out all the stuff i thought would help... by time i got down to bottom of the skill list i didnt have any points left.., :P

hope this helps :)

and i hope u start up too ! :D

[konraddo]

"PyrostasisTDK: Yes, you can."

AO is such a classic sci-fi game. It certainly has its good things but the one thing that drives many many people away from it in recent years is the monotonous gameplay. Yes, World of Warcraft did have its impact but AO is not good at varieties of gameplay.

Long story...
Before the Shadowlands came out, things were fine. People were enjoying missions and people did go for outdoor hunting. And people did camp spots for uber xp etc. After the expansion was out, things changed and people only went to do one thing. In fact, the whole server is doing one thing: Killing hecklers. Hecklers are a type of mobs that give insanely superior xp compared to any other means in the game, yes, any. It requires almost no effort to kill a heckler. Of course, your character cannot be too gimped in terms of implants (similar to gears but they improve things like nanoskills and evades rather than your armor etc.) There was also a concept that you can buff up to equip the gear or implant way above your level, though you cannot "over-equip" as the items will become 'red' and the statistics drop drastically.

Anyways, people could forever stay at the same spot killing hecklers and waiting for respawns. Guess what, since Lv110-120ish or so, you can do hecklers hunting till 220. Well, you could go hunt spirits in the temples with the help of NTs (due to their AOE) but hecklers are just too good...

Back to the topic...
The only profession who can solo almost everything in Inferno (the ultimate zone) is doctor. In terms of high-end gameplay, we talk about insane healing power. Crats can do it but doctors can do it better.

If our rule number 1 is to get 6 identical professions... then...
NTs? They cannot survive well in high-end zones... certainly they are the best for hecklers hunting. Keepers / Enforcers / Shades / Mas = Hmm... melee... Crats / Engs = Forget them Soldiers / Agents / Adventurers(ranged) = Good for bursts, you can't survive for too long Fixers = Could have one for Hots, certainly not a must
Traders = May take 1 for bosses with their nano-resist debuffs and team-wide nanoskills buff
MPs = May take 1 for +140 mochams (dont quite need to be an active team member though as there are versions that last 4 or 8 hours)
Doctors!!! :D (bare in mind that you want your nanoskills as high as possible for the top-level nanos and lower resist rates, so traders and mps are nice)
You will have 6 big heals if you do choose 6 doctors, and 6 x 3 = 18 DoTs from Line A, B and C. You can farm the Shadowlands pocket bosses patterns, the bosses themselves, the items for upgrading tier armor. Also, the funny thing about the Shadowlands is the magical power of CH (abbrev. for Complete Heal, a nano that heals a single target for 10001). It actually brings drastic aggro to the caster. Guess what, you can do 6 directions of aggro bounce in lower level areas for fun!

However...
AO is troublesome in terms of targetting... I am not sure if they ever try to fix that, but you cannot heal properly without targetting a particular person. As a results, you may have to re-issue /assist or things like that to re-capture the original target, which is quite annoying.

Such a long post. Hopefully people wont consider me talking crap! :whistling:

[Smegster]

hehe lol, nah that was good post no crap there atall :P lol

would like to add to the target problem.. i cant seem to focus all my toons on 1 toon.. it is a nightmare... so.... i have resorted to just team healing.. i box 1x doc and 4x NT and yea like u say up to lvl 50 i was sooo good i just laughed at everyone else... now im at 50 things just hit me too hard and my heals cant keep up with the ammount of damage etc. ( thats only when im luring lots tho )

im going to roll some docs now... altho the DoT at low levels is not ideal im sure i can pick up some NCU pistols in nooby backyard :D that can be my dps untill i get a decent DoT :P hehe

ill post back when ive played them a little :) cheers for post konraddo

[Korruptor]

6 Doctors?

I'd equate that to ripping my eye balls out with my fingernails.

I have a Doc at 175 and nothing makes my eyes bleed more then reading someone saying they are going to play 6 of them at a time. Feel free to do it but Doc's have one of the worst if not the worst attack rating in the game. Yes Doc's can tank some endgame bosses like LotV but it takes 30-60 minutes to do it solo. If you work your aggro right you can run 5 soldiers and 1 doc or even 5 NT's and 1 Doc but you need to be mindful of what you're trying to do.

If you plan to use NT's to sit their and AOE then your breed becomes the issue. I'd use Atrox for those NT's. Even though they have bad int the HP pool you have will help prevent them from dying from a random crit. Also roll your Agg/Def bar all the way to Def to get your def skills as high as possible.

If you're trying to mass kill with NT's it's best to do it with only 1 NT having them kite for the rest of the group.

5 NT's will work well with 1 doc if you stick to single targets and let the Doc pull with a non-breakable init debuff (UBT being the last and best of those) and watch the NT nukeage. Docs can keep aggro with just heals just avoid mashing the nuke button as fast as you can until you have CH.

Regarding CH'n for aggro, CH generates hate based off the amount healed so if you use it on a full HP teammate it will do little for you vs letting your doc get punched up a bit and CH'n then opening up on the mob.

[PyrostasisTDK]

I tried running AO last week... but was getting some rather strange hitching. Things were stuttering around like I was at a few fps. Also the mouse cursor was extremely inaccurate. Like... it felts sort of like controlling my mouse through a bungee cord if that makes any sense, it just didnt feel smooth and crisp like Im used to.

I have an amd 4200 x2
4 gigs of ddr2 800
Geforce 8800 GTS 640 meg

I tried looking on the tech forums but didnt see anything that might help. I tried tweaking some stuff... but I gave up after a few hours.

Anyone know what might be up? If I can get that fixed Ill play it for sure.

[Korruptor]

I tried running AO last week... but was getting some rather strange hitching. Things were stuttering around like I was at a few fps. Also the mouse cursor was extremely inaccurate. Like... it felts sort of like controlling my mouse through a bungee cord if that makes any sense, it just didnt feel smooth and crisp like Im used to.

I have an amd 4200 x2
4 gigs of ddr2 800
Geforce 8800 GTS 640 meg

I tried looking on the tech forums but didnt see anything that might help. I tried tweaking some stuff... but I gave up after a few hours.

Anyone know what might be up? If I can get that fixed Ill play it for sure.Try this first:

F10>>settings>>visual>>misc look for mouse lag fix or something named like that, if it's checked, un-check it otherwise check it.

Currently AO is based of DX6 and makes little use of high end video cards, that is until they release the visual upgrade.

[Smegster]

omg 6x doc sux, heals are great yea... but u sped half of ur time trying to heal everyone becuase you taking so long to kill the damn thing... on my NT's and doc i could take down somthing my own level in 1 hit, with the docs somthing my own level was a long annoing battle.. dont even get me started on my bosses around start area... its just too much hassel and too little dps. be good for umm.... yea i have no idea... i suggest not rolling doctors... fun solo... not so 6x.. erg..

was about to roll 5x advy and 1x enfo earlier but kinda went against it... im taking on too many toons as it is :P lol.. would be nice team i think tho.. 5x pistol advy... or might go 5x 1he hmm... and the enfo there as main to just hold aggro... just thinking all the buffs that come with advy is nice.. morphs etc... but i suppose you only need 1 advy for that.

ty for advice on my nt's korrupt, have alredy spec Nanomage now :( still a laugh tho hehe...

still not made 6x agent :P lol ^^

[Scritchin]

Close to 12 months ago I 6 boxed AO using 2 computers the classes were:
x1 NT, main dps, this account was upgraded to Shadowlands for the Cyberdeck item $5 per month
x1 Enforcer mongo and Essance buff for NT
x1 Fixer for the x2 HoT's for my NT, also team evac into the grid
x1 Doctor to heal
x1 Engi for Pet and to do full tradeskills to make my own weapons and armour
x1 Meta Phys for the Nano buffs

Boxing missions for tokens is pointless cause of the very poor pathing, all my leveling was done out doors mainly in the Lush Fields camps then moved onto Bot Hackers and 8x8 in pleasant medows etc. By the time I had left pleasent medows I had x2 Grid Armour discs drop for killing NPC camps this lets ya get Yalmaha's for all ya toons this fixes ya /follow command niggles cause they can fly so fast behind you. Prolly the most fun I had was flying around with my fixer finding good kite spots for the NT.

It is also worth taking ya enforcer and Doc into Temple of the Three Winds and getting ya Doc the Chalice that drops in there very nice healing item, anymore than duel boxing in there is to hard and a Doc / Enforcer combo can pretty much take down any boss.

I quit at level 80ish and went back to Vanguard.