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Pazgaz
09-27-2016, 07:30 AM
Hi,

I feel like I'm not getting as much DPS as I should out of my prot paladins.
I'm using a GS-E macro I found at wowlazymacros.com:
https://wowlazymacros.com/forums/topic/class-hall-tanking-dummy-22-stacks/

Lyonheart
09-27-2016, 08:56 AM
Prot palies are a wack-a-mole style of rotation.. whatever is off cooldown gets smashed. I started using GS-E on mine..then switched to ISboxer just spamming all the abilities..seems to work better for me. Situational spells/abilities are on separate hotkeys of course.

emitchell109
09-27-2016, 09:00 AM
Agreed, I only used GS-e while in my learning stages of isBoxer, then I got into priority macro's within boxer.

Andreauk
09-27-2016, 09:22 AM
On my Pallys I have each skill in it's own spot.. but I have made a macro for when im lazy:


/castsequence reset=5 Judgment,blessed hammer,shield of the righteous,blessed hammer
/cast [combat] avenging wrath


Avenger's on it's own for procs & consecration as I now always lay it down first.

davidmage
09-27-2016, 09:32 AM
I've never used any macros or other stuff for rotating my abilities. The rotation for prot paladin is so perfect for mashing buttons. The only abilities which is tied to survival is our Shield of the Righteous (our defensive ability and via talent enables next Light of The Protector), and of course Light of The Protector itself. These abilities are not tied to the global cooldown of our other abilities, meaning we have full control of when we use them regardless of the GcD state of the individual characters.
The other 3 abilities is just use when ready, especially avengers shield which can proc free cast - mash that one as often as possible.

Redbeard
09-27-2016, 11:42 AM
I am working on this now, so this is WIP. I have a 100 paladin and then 4 level 22 ones that I need to bring up, so I immediately ran into trouble with trying a castsequence because the low level dudes were missing half the spells.

My ISBoxer 2 step solution (for the moment):
Step 1:
Shield of the righteous
Step 2 (Wait 12 seconds before going back to step 1)
Cast all of the following (as their own keypresses coming in)
Eye of tyr
consecration
avenger's shield
judgment
hammer of the righteous

This catches procs for avenger's shield, and a side benefit for me is that for the lowbies, any abilities they dont have yet just get ignored.

As I get past leveling and into some "current" content, I'm sure this will change. I will probably have to be more judicious with my SOTR etc.

Should be good for now.

Ughmahedhurtz
09-27-2016, 12:55 PM
My paladin rotation is:

Step 1:

* Smash buttons 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9

Step 2:

* Loot

Redbeard
09-27-2016, 01:15 PM
Your finger walking dexterity is legendary ugh, thats too much moving for me ;)

Lyonheart
09-27-2016, 01:49 PM
My paladin rotation is:

Step 1:

* Smash buttons 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9

Step 2:

* Loot

roflmao!! perfect!

Pazgaz
09-27-2016, 03:17 PM
The only abilities which is tied to survival is our Shield of the Righteous (our defensive ability and via talent enables next Light of The Protector), and of course Light of The Protector itself. These abilities are not tied to the global cooldown of our other abilities, meaning we have full control of when we use them regardless of the GcD state of the individual characters.
The other 3 abilities is just use when ready, especially avengers shield which can proc free cast - mash that one as often as possible.
Kinda. If consecration is gone, you want to cast it before SotR or LotP unless waiting will get you killed. 20% extra on both if standing in your consecration is nothing to sneeze at. :)

JohnGabriel
09-27-2016, 03:53 PM
Theres one spell you can macro to another because its not on the GCD, thats Light of the protector. Put it with consecration so you're sure you get the bonus healing.

Ughmahedhurtz
09-27-2016, 04:27 PM
Your finger walking dexterity is legendary ugh, thats too much moving for me ;)

Years of practice, grasshopper.

In seriousness, the way things tend to work with my ISBoxer config (just hits every key in that list in a single step) is that you put the abilities in decreasing priority starting from 2 and going down to 9. It "tends" to fire those earlier even if two are off cooldown. For example, if I put judgment on 5 and Hammer of Spamination on 6, it usually fires Judgment first. So I tend to put Hammer of Spamination on 5 and judgment on 9. Where Healing Consecration goes plays a notable difference in how regularly it stays up, so it's important.

Starbuck_Jones
10-02-2016, 01:07 PM
I have ISBoxer setup to button mash in a descending order from = to 5. 1, 3, and 4 I manually press for interrupts, active mitigation, and horse mobility. The 2 key is my macro key for ISBoxer because I find it very easy to press while keeping my other fingers on Q and E for movement.

My priority is:
Avengers Shield
Judgement
Artifact ability
Consecration
Hammer
Light of Protector

I throw in Seraphim when it's talented and in some situations I take the Artifact ability off and use it manually. So I just smash the 2 key and everything dies and you end the fights at full hp. I have solo'd the last 20% of many heroic bosses when the rest of the group dies.

Lyonheart
10-03-2016, 08:47 AM
I have ISBoxer setup to button mash in a descending order from = to 5. 1, 3, and 4 I manually press for interrupts, active mitigation, and horse mobility. The 2 key is my macro key for ISBoxer because I find it very easy to press while keeping my other fingers on Q and E for movement.

My priority is:
Avengers Shield
Judgement
Artifact ability
Consecration
Hammer
Light of Protector

I throw in Seraphim when it's talented and in some situations I take the Artifact ability off and use it manually. So I just smash the 2 key and everything dies and you end the fights at full hp. I have solo'd the last 20% of many heroic bosses when the rest of the group dies.

When i started using mouse wheel tilt for left-right strafe, it gave me two more dps keys for quick access ( i use Q for my main GTAE ability and for camera alignment ) E is my universal interrupt, on round robin. Also the extra control when using tilt for strafe allows me to kite like a champ!

Starbuck_Jones
10-03-2016, 03:09 PM
Yeah, I have my stun keybound to R and hand of freedom bound to F. I use raid frames and a mouseclick for BoP and sacrifice.

Xeneres
10-03-2016, 04:02 PM
I have found its best to limit Prot paladin to 3 lines of macro text. In doing so it will help the reaction of your Avenger Shield Resets via grand crusader.

Of course with isboxer you can execute a step on key press and another on key release so that may help with the shield responsiveness. I personally use GnomeSequencer. In the past I have used an ISboxer priority system for my one button macro when blizzard allowed us more automation in our macros.

I think its best to manually control shield of the righteous as its the core of your mitigation and by controlling it you can use it for controlled burst, predictable damage spikes from trash or bosses or to give yourself 2x Hand of the protectors in quick succession. I always try to keep at least 1 charge of shield of the righteous available. If you have it macrod into your one button ability you will quickly burn through the 3 charges and have to wait nearly 15 seconds to get it again. At the start of the fight you typically don't need to use two hand of the protectors. However, Shield of the Righteous is our most damaging/hardest hitting ability so using the 3 charges back to back while you have CDs running is great for getting damage out.

For my paladins macro I do something like

/cast Avenger's Shield
/castsequence reset=9/combat Consecration
/castsequence reset=5/combat Judgement, Hammer of Righteous, Hammer of Righteous, Hammer of Righteous

The duration on the reset step of the macro can be messed with depending on your level of haste. I find its best to be either slightly below or slighty above the CDs of your abilities. You will have to play with it some and see how it works during something like a time warp/blood lust/drums. I think its best to give yourself a second or two of extra GCD causing ability so that when you do get that haste buff it doesn't make your macro cycle too fast to an ability on CD.

JohnGabriel
10-03-2016, 05:10 PM
I would suggest everyone create macros for all spells and use [@target] in them. This prevents them from just selecting a new random target to cast at, you actually have to target a mob.

For example:

/cast [@target] Avenger's Shield

I hate running up to mobs and have each of my pali tanks pulling a separate group. Now if they don't have anyone targeted they wont cast.

Ughmahedhurtz
10-03-2016, 06:41 PM
I would suggest everyone create macros for all spells and use [@target] in them. This prevents them from just selecting a new random target to cast at, you actually have to target a mob.

For example:


I hate running up to mobs and have each of my pali tanks pulling a separate group. Now if they don't have anyone targeted they wont cast.

A simple /stopmacro [notarget][dead][noharm] type of thing will mean you only have one line to worry about.

Andreauk
10-03-2016, 10:57 PM
I have now switched to using each ability on it's own action bar button and it's way better.. had to do the artifact quest in looms (555) item level and with a macro it was painful, so after the first boss I swapped - was a huge difference once I had full control of everything.

Lyonheart
10-04-2016, 06:30 PM
A simple /stopmacro [notarget][dead][noharm] type of thing will mean you only have one line to worry about.

so just put that in the first macro on your bar?

Ughmahedhurtz
10-04-2016, 08:39 PM
If you want it to prevent unintended pulls, you'll need it at the top of every damage macro you run.

The way I usually do the multiple-ability-type macros is have it set to call the non-damage abilities (or emotes or whatever you have that isn't DPS) first, then that line, then the damage abilities and /startattack below it.