Request: Mousewheel

[Poolboy]

Ok, I PM'ed you earlier this aft Rob, and I think you got what I was talking about (lol, even I sometimes don't understand me so if you did sweet, here's a cookie! :thumbup: )

Anyways, I figured I would post an actual thread regarding my topic juuuust in case you lose it in the mountian of other requests I'm sure you get. More importantly... I hope others can expand on my thoughts, or even show me a new angle I hadn't thought of.

Here goes:

I'd like the Mousewheel Up/Down to be added as two keys which can be passed to my clones if possible.

My aim is to be able to ingame Bind the up/down to a macro, which can then be spammed by easily scrolling up or down.

Several reasons include:

1. Carpal Tunnel relief. Who here wouldn't mind a slow easy scroll over hammering on a single key?
2. Better Shot Rotation or Cast Sequence efficiency, possible DPS increases? Being able to scroll a macro will REALLY and truly be the best way to spam.
3. Virtually eliminate many of the difficulties in multi-class synergy that scare away boxers from 'mixing it up' a little more? Simply make your best possible castsequence you can make for each individual char regardless of class, and bind it to the wheel. No more worries on getting casting times all synched up etc. When it's time to dps just start scrolling and each toon will get 100% out of their sequence. One toon getting spell pushback or something like that wont affect the others anymore in the same way they do currently with single key finger pounding.

I myself could see possibly Up wheel for Boss shot/cast rotations, and Down for trash and questing type of usage... would be awesome.

I hope I've articulated my thoughts well enough. Actually I hope there's already a solution to this and I just haven't found it, that one of you wizards are gonna drop in here and go "Duh, stupid nub - click this link here and do this!"

Thanks again Keyclone Rob, yer da best ~

[Maxion]

I know you can bind the mousewheel in the wow keybindings, so try binding it to your desired macro button on your bar in your preferred bar mod?

[Anozireth]

I think the point is that keyclone doesn't pass the mousewheel events to the clone windows.

[Poolboy]

I think the point is that keyclone doesn't pass the mousewheel events to the clone windows.

[keyclone]

so.. are you saying you'd rather have the actual 'wheel up/down' command... and not some associated key sent to each window?

[Subversion]

If that was implemented, it would be best to have it as optional; I wouldn't want my mouse clicks/wheel scrolls broadcasted across my wow clients.

[Poolboy]

Correct, Rob!

Just make wheel up/down a key in play like all the others. I don't think it needs anything more than that. For those who don't want to use it - throw it on the DNP list the same way you'd put WASD?

You'd have to make a clear patch note telling folks to do so... otherwise there'd be some funky camera shit going on with most people's clones ROFL =)

Am I the only person seeing value in this one? I'm hoping it's more a fact that either nobody's popped into this thread, than I'm the only person who'd use it.

Honestly, the value in a simple, easy, FASTER than you can possibly fingerpound (heh, fingerpound), scrollable spam macro will be apparent to everyone the 1st time they try it.

FOR EXAMPLE:

On my Hunter I'd toss~

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/castrandom [target=focustarget,exists] Kill Command
/castsequence reset=2/target !Auto Shot, Steady Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear();
That'd be spammed by easily, softly, and calmly scrolling with my mousewheel

On my Arcane Mages ~
I'd just castsequence 2x Arcane Blast -> 5x Scorch -> Fireballs

As I said in op, I myself might use Up for trash setup, and down for boss sequences, etc etc.

Possibly, able to modify+mousewheel down the road for even more lineups.

Hope that clears it up a little better.

[Inimicus]

Great request...

On my tank I use the scroll wheel for abilities as well; Up for a rage dump castsequence, and Down for shield block spam. Ive missed being able to map abilities to it in my multiboxing endeavors.

[Eteocles]

I highly approve of this request; I only use it for my camera zoom atm but that COULD come in handy later down the line and simply makes sense to have it available to pass, gives us a few extra "keys" to use

[keyclone]

so ... why don't i add it to the mouse-map? that way you can associate a key as you normally would... and not associating would do nothing

[Poolboy]

However you think it would best be implemented Rob, your call. As long as scrolling on Leader will allow me to scroll to Clones.

I'm a big noobtard though, so if it's not as straightforward I'll just need a wee bit of help to config :thumbsup:

Wuwu!!

[Dawnstone]

In windows I just rebind my mouse wheel up to something like Alt+A and down to Alt+B - in wow you just change in Keybindings for the same. Mousewheel spams the Alt+A/B's and each WoW can use this. Temp workaround if you really want the mouse wheel to be able to spam a command.

[Poolboy]

In windows I just rebind my mouse wheel up to something like Alt+A and down to Alt+B - in wow you just change in Keybindings for the same. Mousewheel spams the Alt+A/B's and each WoW can use this. Temp workaround if you really want the mouse wheel to be able to spam a command.

Hrmm, this affects your whole computer though, every program you use? So like, if I 'accidently' used my mousewheel in Explorer it'd pop up the 'Favourites ->Add A Favourite' flyout?

As for more uses..

Think of the excellent mashable Rogue macros you can make that currently, sure they're workable ~ but you'd wear your keyboard/wrist out, but with steady scrolling would leave a clone rogue (or even dps warrior for that matter) in a nice constant state of action.

/follow focus
/cast various melee strikes all prioritized for effect/spec

He'd be constantly right along with the tank/leader you'd think... hacking and slashing away. Positioning will always be a prob with melee clones, but you'd have to admit stuff would get a little easier. Maybe even easy enough for someone to try and break the no_melee_clones barrier?

Just thoughts, I'm bored this morning and my mind is thinking of a hundred uses for faster easy spam.

[Maxion]

Spamming actions is not the issue with melee clones, the issue is that hitting something in melee breaks follow. Always. So you would perhaps need to put a /follow in between every action or something.

[Poolboy]

Yep, that's why I'd prolly put a '/follow focus' as the very first line in a melee clone's scroll spam.

Each 'tick' of your mousewheel (which is quite a furious speed even with calm even scrolling) will be refreshing the follow, and trying to force a strike.

With even a little bit of practice I'm sure ya could get good at setting mobs up between your leader and a melee clone so that the follow command didnt ruin positioning/facing.

Hey, it's still never gonna be as ez-mode as Ranged clones, but I think it at least eases a few burdens with the way keymashing is currently done?

[Maxion]

You are right, but I was actually thinking more about pvp where the "mobs" wont stand still and let you position them as much.
But as I thought about after making that post, and as you pointed out, putting /follow in all the macros would probably be a good help in keeping the clones around.

[None of the above]

I want to add my "+1" to request for Mousewheel Up/Down processing. Keyclone, please... can you do it for us?

[keyclone]

yes... i have that on the list... i just wanted to push a release before the weekend instead of waiting.

once i get a few items completed, i will push another release.

[Poolboy]

ARISE THREAD AND LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry for the necromancy but I am getting ready to plunge into some melee boxing and I am curious if this ever made it into Keyclone? If not is there software I can pony up with KC to make this happen?

Again, if there's a way I can pass my scrolling mousewheel up/down to my other clients that would RAWK!

[keyclone]

heya PB,

that's some necro skill you got there :D

and yes, if you go to keyclone/setup/mouse-map you will be able to associate wheel up and wheel down with a key. this key will be sent to all wows. you can also do ctrl+wheel, shift+wheel, and alt+wheel. if you are going to use the modifiers, i believe you will need to match the modifier with the keys (ie: alt+wheelback ==> alt+4 not 4)

please make sure you update to v1.8k at least

if that wasn't what you were looking for, just let me know.

:D

[Poolboy]

Ummm, disregard?! After a pile of goofing off I think I figured out how to do this? It seems this was added to Mouse-Map. I simply made up/down to out of the way keys (* & -), and I'm now off to the races! I'm a scrolling MADMAN i tell yas!!!

Now... whether to do Rogues or Paladin, hmm....