One Thing Nice About the New Patch

[SoulSeekerUSA]

is how all my guys get loot no matter what;-)

I will explain a bit more, lol.

Used to be you had to choose free for all but you do not have to do that now because up to 5 toons that tag a mob get loot even if you are in the same group. And the gold is all individual as well, no more sharing.

[kalos72]

Huh?

[Pazgaz]

I'm guessing this is related to the how mob tagging works in legion.

[SoulSeekerUSA]

I'm guessing this is related to the how mob tagging works in legion.

Yes, no more of only one of your toons getting loot and all of the toons also do not have to share gold as well when looting mobs even when in a group.

[kalos72]

I assume that means that IWT will be required more often if you dont MasterLoot?

[Lyonheart]

What this means is that multiboxers get more gold!

[CMKCot]

yeah, i noticed this as well, and im kinda freaked out about it. looks far too powerful.

as it is now, its no big deal, you just get a absolute metric ton of useless greys i don't even bother selling, i just clean bags with a macro. but come Legion greys are worth a lot of gold and mobs also drop lots of gold.

pretty sure it will get nerfed, i've seen regular players making CRZ groups grouping up just to farm elites on taanan, saw them first around the throne zone and got my attention as i was just passing by farming rares (so i could get a set of 695 polearms for my hunters)

i wasnt even trying to kill regular mobs. just making my way to elites, noticed at first lots of extra drops and it wasn't until i updated the total gold on all toons, after a mass sell on the good old mammoth mount, that it hit me. i had an extra 2.6k gold :confused:

another thing i noticed is that at times even with personal loot selected i get the odd roll screen on a green or blue.

[SoulSeekerUSA]

yeah, i noticed this as well, and im kinda freaked out about it. looks far too powerful.

as it is now, its no big deal, you just get a absolute metric ton of useless greys i don't even bother selling, i just clean bags with a macro. but come Legion greys are worth a lot of gold and mobs also drop lots of gold.

pretty sure it will get nerfed, i've seen regular players making CRZ groups grouping up just to farm elites on taanan, saw them first around the throne zone and got my attention as i was just passing by farming rares (so i could get a set of 695 polearms for my hunters)

i wasnt even trying to kill regular mobs. just making my way to elites, noticed at first lots of extra drops and it wasn't until i updated the total gold on all toons, after a mass sell on the good old mammoth mount, that it hit me. i had an extra 2.6k gold :confused:

another thing i noticed is that at times even with personal loot selected i get the odd roll screen on a green or blue.

Naaaa, this has been a very very long time coming. Not going any place any time soon.

[JohnGabriel]

I haven't found anything to like about the pre-patch yet. Even if we get more gold looting, doubt it will make up for the loss of gold in Garrison and Shipyard missions. They are useless to do now, useless.

My barn is still making gold, thats it. They even made the trade goods in the Trading post 4x what they were before, outrageous.

[SoulSeekerUSA]

I haven't found anything to like about the pre-patch yet. Even if we get more gold looting, doubt it will make up for the loss of gold in Garrison and Shipyard missions. They are useless to do now, useless.

My barn is still making gold, thats it. They even made the trade goods in the Trading post 4x what they were before, outrageous.

I just recently came back about a month or so ago and just got my Garrison town hall to level 3 so I will see non of that easy garrison gold. Is it even worth it to keep going there daily now?

[CMKCot]

I haven't found anything to like about the pre-patch yet. Even if we get more gold looting, doubt it will make up for the loss of gold in Garrison and Shipyard missions. They are useless to do now, useless.

My barn is still making gold, thats it. They even made the trade goods in the Trading post 4x what they were before, outrageous.
run the barn on all chars, feed cloth to tailors with tailoring building and stockpile bags.

save them for the post expac craze once people realize the 30 slot bags are the biggest bags in the game unless you want to buy the 500k gold bags.

[Lyonheart]

run the barn on all chars, feed cloth to tailors with tailoring building and stockpile bags.

save them for the post expac craze once people realize the 30 slot bags are the biggest bags in the game unless you want to buy the 500k gold bags.

Im doing this as well. i have two full guild bank tabs full of bags. And im guessing the fur will still sell well ( maybe better than now ) because most players ( even a lot of tailors ) will not want to spend any time in old content.. they will just buy the fur from AH

[JohnGabriel]

I just recently came back about a month or so ago and just got my Garrison town hall to level 3 so I will see non of that easy garrison gold. Is it even worth it to keep going there daily now?

Its not much use from a gold-making perspective to collect followers, do Garrison missions or Shipyard missions anymore. As others have noted the profession buildings will still make you gold if you craft items to sell in AH, and should continue to make you gold into Legion until the prices on the new items stabilize.

I am posting full of anger right now so you'll have to take what I say with a grain of salt. IMO I think doing barns, making bags (I haven't been), and collecting the pets/mounts/toys posted here (http://www.dual-boxing.com/entries/1074-My-top-secret-WoW-daily-routine-with-macro) will earn you the most gold before Legion.

[Fat Tire]

I am posting full of anger right now so you'll have to take what I say with a grain of salt.

These changes to the garrison were announced months ago.

[luxlunae]

These changes to the garrison were announced months ago.

And more, if they didn't make the changes--such that it was efficient to stay in stupid WOD content for another two years... ew.

[JohnGabriel]

I don't hate the garrison changes exclusively, but overall I am having no fun right now. The garrisons are where I made my gold, dungeons were my fun.

I'll just play Rift until Legion is released, might need a break from WoW.

[beeq]

My internets were broken for several hours just yesterday, thanks to my ISP and their cable fault.. on a patch day!
I managed to test different groups for maximizing loot from outworld mobs, for example for cloth grinding and so on.

Due to current tap changes, each mob can be tapped five times, but you will get more "taps" with this method.
You can farm normal mobs with 9 toons; 4 toons in party A and 5 toons in party B. Make sure your party A tags the mob first, and then make sure that party B hits the mob before they die. You will get 9x loot this way. Party A will 'consume' 4 taps, and party B will have one tap left, but since they are grouped, the game adds 4 more taps for party B so every in it will get the loot.

If you tap a mob with 5man party, then all taps will be consumed, and any other player will not get the loots nor the credit for the kill, unless it's rare mob which still have the different tapping system.

I'm glad that Garrisons are nerfed to shit. I did nothing in WoD except Garrisons. I milked them pretty well though; have been purchasing WoW Tokens so much that my 10 accounts are active until January 2018 :P

[emitchell109]

I haven't found anything to like about the pre-patch yet. Even if we get more gold looting, doubt it will make up for the loss of gold in Garrison and Shipyard missions. They are useless to do now, useless.

My barn is still making gold, thats it. They even made the trade goods in the Trading post 4x what they were before, outrageous.


They also replaced many of the mission rewards with just garrison resources. So you will generate more resources than usual as well.
Thankfully I still have a Hexweave Bag crafting Army :) 800-1k a pop on my server all day

[CMKCot]

yeah, i agree... i spent the whole expac doing garrisons, loging in and collecting the rewards after the patch and getting 0 gold and no items felt so liberating. i've been leveling a warrior team (!) and playing my main team only... haven't been so relaxed in months. even dropped the ring quest on all alt teams. (main has it already)

i'm glad the garrisons are dead, i've seen a ton of people doing some old school farming!

[kalos72]

So with each toon being able to loot their own trash, how do each of you manage IWT?

I find that more often then not, 2-3 of my team dont close the loot windows and I am stuck with running around to close the window and approaching the body again to ry again.

[beeq]

So with each toon being able to loot their own trash, how do each of you manage IWT?

I find that more often then not, 2-3 of my team dont close the loot windows and I am stuck with running around to close the window and approaching the body again to ry again.

I have a specific loot key for that:

Step 1 : Action 1 : WoW macro 'Loot' in 'Quick Setup 41' -> all
Step 2 : Action 1 : Do Assist Me in Non-combat Key Map -> self
Step 2 : Action 2 : <Interact with Target> -> all

and then I have that loot macro in Game Helpers -> World of Warcraft -> Loot

/run CloseLoot() ( essential! Frees up the loot window after looting for other toons )
/use Findle's Loot-A-Rang (which is totally optional, and currently working only in Draenor )

It's far from perfect, but it works most of the time. The trouble is when your main loots the mob, game deselects it, so you have to click on the corpse again, and then spam that loot key..

There might be several better configs for this, but I've managed to loot things with it so far ;)

[luxlunae]

I really do need to get a closeloot macro going, thanks for the reminder beeq!

[kalos72]

The loot a rang thing means you dont have to target anything right? Looks like all my minions are gonna be low level engineers too...

[beeq]

The loot a rang thing means you dont have to target anything right? Looks like all my minions are gonna be low level engineers too...

You don't have to be an engineer to use the rang, but it works only in Draenor..

It works without the targeting, but if there's loot far away, your toons would run closer, here and there different directions, if you have had a slaughterhouse going on :D The rang is a bonus, but if it causes troubles, then just the closeloot macro is great enough


I really do need to get a closeloot macro going, thanks for the reminder beeq!

yw lux! Happy looting :D

[kalos72]

Ok so a little help here:

Game Helpers - WOW
- New Macro Set
- - New Macro
- - - LOOT
- - - - /run CloseLoot() /use Loot-A-Rang - (two lines post is changing the format)
- - - - - Hotkey ALT-Z
- - - - - - Button Name LOOT - (just create an empty macro button named LOOT?)

[JohnGabriel]

Instead of CloseLoot() you could also accept all the loot using LootSlot(x) where x is the slot in the bag, I use:



/run LootSlot(1)/run LootSlot(2)
/run LootSlot(3)
/run LootSlot(4)
/run LootSlot(5)
/run LootSlot(6)
/run LootSlot(7)
/run LootSlot(8)
/run LootSlot(9)
/click StaticPopup1Button1


That accepts all loot and any "are you sure it will bind to your character" type message.

[kalos72]

Sorry, I am a bit anal about these things:

So the path is right just paste below in the macro:
/run LootSlot(1)
/run LootSlot(2)
/run LootSlot(3)
/run LootSlot(4)
/run LootSlot(5)
/run LootSlot(6)
/run LootSlot(7)
/run LootSlot(8)
/run LootSlot(9)
/click StaticPopup1Button1
/use Loot-A-Rang

[MiRai]

Ok so a little help here:

Game Helpers - WOW
- New Macro Set
- - New Macro
- - - LOOT
- - - - /run CloseLoot() /use Loot-A-Rang - (two lines post is changing the format)
- - - - - Hotkey ALT-Z
- - - - - - Button Name LOOT - (just create an empty macro button named LOOT?)

I just recently made a video for this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN71zY0e5SU

[JohnGabriel]

Funny thing about the new loot method, I just killed Nok-Karosh and instead of rolling for the Garn Nighthowl mount it dropped for every toon. At 3k gold each in AH right now thats 15k gold per kill.

[beeq]

Funny thing about the new loot method, I just killed Nok-Karosh and instead of rolling for the Garn Nighthowl mount it dropped for every toon. At 3k gold each in AH right now thats 15k gold per kill.

Yeah it's good to have confirmation on this \o/ Should also work with Reins of Poseidus, and TLPD etc..

[Jabberie]

As I found out this evening, don't use CloseLoot as the /click name in isboxer. The game recognises 'CloseLoot' as the command syntax and doesn't do the macro. :)

[SoulSeekerUSA]

run the barn on all chars, feed cloth to tailors with tailoring building and stockpile bags.

save them for the post expac craze once people realize the 30 slot bags are the biggest bags in the game unless you want to buy the 500k gold bags.

But the cloth is spellbound.

[MultiBear]

But the cloth is spellbound.

The cloth is, but the fur that's used to create the cloth isn't soulbound. So you can run those barns, and send the fur to the tailors who then turn it into cloth.

[SoulSeekerUSA]

The cloth is, but the fur that's used to create the cloth isn't soulbound. So you can run those barns, and send the fur to the tailors who then turn it into cloth.

True and I just found that I can get the cooldown removed as well.

[Lyonheart]

Yep which is great but then the tailor that makes the hexweave cloth is on a daily cooldown, lol. I cannot see how having 5 barns makes that much dif when it bottlenecks with the cooldown of making the cloth.

Forget the cooldown cloth.. i made 60k last week on fur and bloods on the AH. I have 20 barns btw..but still..my mages are tailors.. i do make cloth for bags.. but im not counting on that as a big source of income atm..just want all my toons to have the bags. The bags might sell for a lot more in Legion due to no new bigger bags ( other than the one you can buy for 500K ). barns still best, reliable, income atm.

[Wubsie]

Funny thing about the new loot method, I just killed Nok-Karosh and instead of rolling for the Garn Nighthowl mount it dropped for every toon. At 3k gold each in AH right now thats 15k gold per kill.

Out of curiosity I went and killed it. It does indeed drop more than the previous 1, but it's not a guaranteed drop for all toons. 5/10 of my toons got a drop. Even if the price is way down on them (about 2k here) that's not horrible for a few minutes of work. It still hits like a truck though. A truck on steroids that hasn't had it's coffee and is a grumpy morning person. I suggest bringing your N.U.C.U.L.A.R.S. and using the garrison ability to call reinforcements to help tank it, as it will most likely just keep one-shotting your tanks.

I'll have to take a look at fur and leather again. It seems the price is actually going up a bit, where as bloods and felblight have just plummeted (felblight is down to under 20g a piece).

[Lyonheart]

I'll have to take a look at fur and leather again. It seems the price is actually going up a bit, where as bloods and felblight have just plummeted (felblight is down to under 20g a piece).

The 60k was the bloods and fur..your right.. the bloods are going down a lot. When i was doing felblights from Kaz+my barns every week.. i was bringing in 120k+ a week. It will be interesting to see how long the fur it's self stays up. It should stay level and start to go up after launch.

[Selz]

Does this loot system work in dungeons aswell? everyone has their own loot and gold? Because I like transmog farming. And that would give me a reason to run with 5 insted of 1

[JohnGabriel]

Does this loot system work in dungeons aswell? everyone has their own loot and gold? Because I like transmog farming. And that would give me a reason to run with 5 insted of 1

It defaults to Personal Loot in dungeons just as it does everywhere else. But for the moment, who knows if/when it will change, you can type /ffa and it will change the loot to Free For All.

[ebony]

for the few that said hunters pets can no longer do this they can you need a new book now :)



http://www.wowhead.com/item=136781/pet-training-manual-fetch

[beeq]

Out of curiosity I went and killed it. It does indeed drop more than the previous 1, but it's not a guaranteed drop for all toons. 5/10 of my toons got a drop. Even if the price is way down on them (about 2k here) that's not horrible for a few minutes of work. It still hits like a truck though. A truck on steroids that hasn't had it's coffee and is a grumpy morning person. I suggest bringing your N.U.C.U.L.A.R.S. and using the garrison ability to call reinforcements to help tank it, as it will most likely just keep one-shotting your tanks.

I'll have to take a look at fur and leather again. It seems the price is actually going up a bit, where as bloods and felblight have just plummeted (felblight is down to under 20g a piece).

Hmm my Garrison Ability didn't work there, but I burned that big cat down with 10 arcane mages with the good old maneuver:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k0a1PD2mKA

5/10 mounts as there were no other tappers :)

[JohnGabriel]

I just killed him again with my 5 hunter team and 5 mounts dropped. I don't think its a 50% chance here I just think 5 drop.

I cant find the thread on legion mob tagging, but I seem to remember you need to split into two teams. A team of 4 that tags the mob first, then a team of 5, then your straggler.

That should get you 9 mounts using the new looting rules.

Edit: I found the post, its actually part of this thread:
http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/53101-One-Thing-Nice-About-the-New-Patch?p=405237&viewfull=1#post405237

[Lyonheart]

I dont have hunters high enough.. only 3 mages.. i could not kill it on any team.. he one shots my geared tank 8(

[Moosey]

Does this new mob tap system also apply to old raids and/or dungeons? (Firelands e.g.)

That would be a dream.

[ebony]

Does this new mob tap system also apply to old raids and/or dungeons? (Firelands e.g.)

That would be a dream.


only in the outdoor world.

[JohnGabriel]

Another nice change, Hunter's no longer miss out on loot if our pet kills something.

[Baltyre]

Does it work with a cross realm group ?

[Rhod]

QUOTE=MiRai;405319]I just recently made a video for this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN71zY0e5SU[/QUOTE]



Thank you for this !!

Until I found this, I was just having all my toons jump (To close the loot windows) and then re-interacting with targets. I would have to do this 4-5 times to make sure all my toons received their loot.

The root problem is blizzard needs to fix the dang "that item is busy" problem.

[Multibocks]

I learned today another fix is enabling advanced looting in Jamba.

[ebony]

I learned today another fix is enabling advanced looting in Jamba.

yep this has been posted a few times.