2.4.1 Meta 4-men

[Cmoidudu]

So, I know that some of you have already spoke of the "new" 2.4.1 Meta-Team, but let's start a fresh thread here so that it doesn't mix with season 6.

At the moment I'm not using a Wizard, but I can go as high as GR75 (easily) with a Crusader Thorns/Invoker as a main dps plus the usual 3 zDPS. Maybe I'll switch to Wizard again, we'll see, but at least I can face the creatures, I'm not licking some corner of a wall, and it's so much easier to play...

At the moment, my Crusader DPS dude has zero Caldesann, so maybe with some adjustments and Strength buffs I can reach the mid 80's or higher...

Also it confirms that there is certainly a bug with using multiple Thorns/Invoker Crusaders, I can't explain why I'm doing such a massacre at GR75 now, but in season 6 with 4x Crusaders I couldn't go over GR62 because of the lack of DPS... and I had to reroll 4x Demon Hunter to complete achievements for extra stash tab :(

Since that dude is taking little to no damage, I switched Diamonds for Rubies, and I'm using 3 offensive legendary gems.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/cmoidudu-2696/hero/39084022

[Shodokan]

The main problem with the current meta for multi-boxing is just how squishy archon wizard is, BUT it can be played exactly like you attempted to play the twister setup but without needing to pull to walls and such.

Caldesian's at ~ 75 would push you to around GR 80-85 with your current setup, the beauty of your setup is that it can be develop into a support/dps LON thorns barb as one of your other toons which will bring your RG/elite kills increased speed.

[Kicksome]

I'm trying twister wizard again, pretty much the same meta as season 5, where I got to gr 91. I tried archon, but it's just too difficult for me to use. So I went back to tal twister. My guys are all just under paragon 1000 right at the moment, so that's a big help for sure. This weekend I'm sure I'll get them to 1000.

So monk, wd, barb, wiz. Right now, my wiz doesn't have a ancient twisted sword, and his gear isn't that great, 0 augments on all my guys. And I'm up to GR83. (first try - so I might make 85 or so hopefully) I'm also doing a LON/thorns barb, but not having ignore pain up all the time is tough. I obviously can't use him for ancient spearing or pulling mobs, so I swapped out spear to get cry and shout.

This group at least lets me stack up my guys - I can't ever stick twisters like the pros - just too hard for me to do while doing the other stuff right now - maybe I'll figure something out.

Not sure how far I'll get, it definitely don't feel near as easy as last season - but then again, it's pretty early. And crusaders where just so damn fun starting out in season 5.

I'm using the 1 shot monk build to farm Tx, and flashfire on my wiz. To run bounties I just leave everyone in town and run them on 1 guy.

[forsi]

I'm trying twister wizard again, pretty much the same meta as season 5, where I got to gr 91. I tried archon, but it's just too difficult for me to use. So I went back to tal twister. My guys are all just under paragon 1000 right at the moment, so that's a big help for sure. This weekend I'm sure I'll get them to 1000.

So monk, wd, barb, wiz. Right now, my wiz doesn't have a ancient twisted sword, and his gear isn't that great, 0 augments on all my guys. And I'm up to GR83. (first try - so I might make 85 or so hopefully) I'm also doing a LON/thorns barb, but not having ignore pain up all the time is tough. I obviously can't use him for ancient spearing or pulling mobs, so I swapped out spear to get cry and shout.

This group at least lets me stack up my guys - I can't ever stick twisters like the pros - just too hard for me to do while doing the other stuff right now - maybe I'll figure something out.

Not sure how far I'll get, it definitely don't feel near as easy as last season - but then again, it's pretty early. And crusaders where just so damn fun starting out in season 5.

I'm using the 1 shot monk build to farm Tx, and flashfire on my wiz. To run bounties I just leave everyone in town and run them on 1 guy.

hiya iam struggling with the same setup you use can you give me some advice ?

iam using wd monk barb as support and tal twister wiz as damage dealer

iam struggling at gr~70 my guys die alot at Elites..... can you link me your blizzard porfile of your guys ? woud be great thx

[Kicksome]

hiya iam struggling with the same setup you use can you give me some advice ?

iam using wd monk barb as support and tal twister wiz as damage dealer

iam struggling at gr~70 my guys die alot at Elites..... can you link me your blizzard porfile of your guys ? woud be great thx

I can clear GR 85 right now with this setup - I need to get a good weapon on the wiz for sure.
Sure:
Monk: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kicksome-1212/hero/73142742
WD: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sweetcakes-1662/hero/72598657
Barb: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kicksome3-1399/hero/76411466
Wiz: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kicksome4-1510/hero/76710643

[forsi]

I can clear GR 85 right now with this setup - I need to get a good weapon on the wiz for sure.
Sure:
Monk: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kicksome-1212/hero/73142742
WD: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sweetcakes-1662/hero/72598657
Barb: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kicksome3-1399/hero/76411466
Wiz: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kicksome4-1510/hero/76710643

Hi

wow thx alot for your fast answer :) but i got one more question how woud you setuP your barb without the LON ?

// and i guess youre using IS boxer ? what kind of configs youre running ? like youreu sing round robin with your CC spells etc ?

atm i got 1 Key that spamms all my stuff obvously not all but the important ones

[Cmoidudu]

Well I guess I'll have to switch to the Wizard setup too...

I tried to push GR's with a Crusader as main DPS, buffed the dude with 6x 350 STR Caldesanns, but unfortunately I can't go over GR80. I actually failed 2 times at GR80, with bad rifts and population, but if I need a "good" GR to pass GR80 then I'll never compete with a Wizard setup. I just don't do enough DPS with the Crusader.

The Rift Guardien always goes down under a minute, so that's a strong point there, but the Crusader can't do enough area damage on packs of "whites" or elites/whites, and I'm loosing too much time there.

Oh and by the way...

1709

[forsi]

ok good news iam upto GR80-85 now with your setuP !!! and i spend only 5 to 10 mins for the GR80 so shoud be easy doable higher rifts.

my Wizard is now full ancient but not enchantet.

my problem was i was using no Round robins... now i can CC elite packs almost 99% of the time and is easy going now
!

Gratz for para 1000 :)

[Kicksome]

@Cmoidudu Nice on paragon 1000! @forsi grats on GR 80-85!

So I managed to do gr87 so far. I had to make some changes on the zdps monks gear. I had 0 globe bonus. So I basically rolled almost everything with Bonus to health globe on the zdps monk. Then I use the healing aura now (with dodge shout on my Barb).
I use the healing rune that gives you ~3k each time you hit, but 20% of your LOH gets used also - which is another 20k (out of my 100k LOH) total in my case.
Every time you use the healing mantra, you get a shield that uses some % of your healing globe bonus. I can basically spam this key non-stop, so I get a ~150k - ~200k shield 1-2 times a second probably. This brings my deaths down to almost nothing at least so far.

I did gr87 no problems, then gr88 was a roadblock, I tired and was way behind. I still have 0 Caldesanns, and my friend was looking at my wiz, and was like - why do you have an amulet with dex on it? So I need some more work on my wiz. I actually had a diamond in the helm, until he told me to use a purple gem - then he said, you'd get more hps if you just rerolled the socket to essentially vit, I did the math and he was right.

So now I need to augment my wiz - I'm about 1 million sheet dps behind where I should be I think.

[forsi]

Iam trying to gather same pieces for my monk with health globe bnous atm... and try to get my barb to lon/thorns

but i allready cleard GR 85 with my setup. i managed to make a macro where i press only "2" and every toon caast his spells with round robins and timed spells. works pretty good it even cast things i have on my mouse click ! my wizard basicly spams all his stuff and when hes out of energy he use automatic his signature spells zo get power !. then i have 1 extra button i use for movement with shout and monk runnspeed buff ! for moving around. basicly all i need and works pretty good ! nto sure what i coud do better atm

// ah i got one more button where i just cast Monks Cyclon strike

so i basicly spamm "2" for main dps and CC and buffs "3" for cyclon strike and "E" for runspeed buffs for shout and monk runspeed buff. those are also macrod to the "2" key.

[Cmoidudu]

Some teams are using Hex / Toad of Hugeness instead of Hex / Jinx on the Witch Doctor, seems very effective, I need to give it a try. Also Kicksome how do you manage Epiphany on the Monk ?

Anyway Total War / Warhammer goes live tomorrow so I guess i'll disappear for a while :D

[Kicksome]

Level GR90 down, just trying to focus on elites.

http://kicksome.com/d3s61.jpg

[Devile]

Gratz. Haven't played in a while. May play again soon...

[Cmoidudu]

So, I'm busy at the moment with IRL stuff, and playing Total War : Warhammer during free time, but I have seen the sad news coming from DiabloFans... It seems that Blizzard wants to kill meta-teams.

I'm not sure if it's a good thing or a bad thing, but with all the group buffs going away, for us multiboxers it's going to be a going back to 4x DPS... Maybe with still one Barbarian for Ignore Pain / Mob Rule, which hasn't been modified (for now).

[NetQvist]

I'd say it's only good news, the current problem for multiboxing is trying to do too many movement roles at once for this meta. Wizard needs to run ahead, monk needs to catch up asap and freeze and then pull correctly while the barb has to run around like a headless chicken gathering mobs. You just cannot do all of that as a single player. If they remove the pulling parts which they seem intent on doing then the gap to a real team will get a lot smaller.

[Devile]

Playing again S7 my DHs just to get my stash space. Started on saturday and got bored pretty fast after hitting 70. They changed Haedrig's Gift and now u actually have to work to get your 6 piece set. Got 2 pieces for all 4 and then I couldn't take it anymore ... too fucking slow. I started playing solo on my main, mainly pub games, so I could easily carry my other 3 accounts later on. Paragon 470 with full set doing T13 now. Should resume multiboxing later today. Felt "weird" to play with ppl again :P

About the meta, seems like this setup is being used by some and looks fairly easy to do:

Helltooth WD (garg + sacrifice)
Helltooth WD (cloud of bats)
zDPS barb
zDPS monk

I'll prolly replace the monk with a Crusader cause I just can't play without moving thru stuff. Maybe a Condemn Crusader than can do a bit of damage too. Will see ...

[NetQvist]

Meta seems to be changing to 2x generator monk, support monk and support barb. The generator monk is not very friendly to boxing due to low toughness and having to dash every 5-6 seconds to keep damage up.

With 2x garg sac WDs and zdps barb, monk I just did 88 in under 11min http://imgur.com/a/vvE83

[Cmoidudu]

There are different combos that are working alright at the moment... But it seems that 3x Monks and 1x Barb is the new popular Meta. Also one of you guys should start a new thread for 2.4.2 Meta ;)

[NetQvist]

Also one of you guys should start a new thread for 2.4.2 Meta ;)

Sounds like.... work.... must limit inputs to D3 mainly, my mouse is actually melting or something and the keyboard is starting to get bent from my hammering

[Devile]

I just love DHs:

http://i.imgur.com/o8qn5vW.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Nsdom4l.jpg

Was doing my Avarice conquest and found a Bandit Shrine. Went to town, Broken Crown in cube, Emerald on Helm and fired away. Not one escaped and even if it was T13 wouldnt made any difference. Around 200 imperial emeralds and a bunch of mats and dbs.

[Samefudge]

I went 4 x WD too for a change, even though I said I would go all DH to start. It's been fun, but due to somewhat limited playtime in the last week I am having trouble finishing the stash tab. How did you all do it using 4x WD?

[NetQvist]

I went 4 x WD too for a change, even though I said I would go all DH to start. It's been fun, but due to somewhat limited playtime in the last week I am having trouble finishing the stash tab. How did you all do it using 4x WD?

Started with 4x Garg WDs however I quickly transitioned 2x of them to barb support and monk support, here they are in in case you want to copy them, nothing special about their gear since I really can't be arsed min maxing it except for CDR on the barb.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NetQvist3-2937/hero/81707926
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NetQvist4-2666/hero/81707943

Main reason for transitioning was due to the fact that the pets started blocking each other so badly, I guess you could do some different hybrid support build on 2x WDs if you want 4 WDs but you can't have pets on more than two it seems even then they sometimes block each others gargs if you use the dogs without sacrifice.

It would also be possible to run 2x firebats with 2x gargs using keymaps BUT it's very hard to survive with the firebats without any support so I really recommend getting the the monk and barb support, my skills and combination of illusionary boots work pretty darn well atm.

Since you asked about completing the stash tab I suggest you start saving up LTK Monk gear from the monk support on your main so you can do the fast rift solo or with some real player in case you want the last season journey part, you do get the stash in the journey just before that but might as well go for the last one also. Jade build can be fast but I find the LTK monk way better for gathering rift keys anyways.

[Devile]

For the rift in X minutes, just join a public game. U will get it pretty fast once u get a good map. Takes far less time to do that than build something.