Season 6 is a go !

[Cmoidudu]

So, I picked 4x Crusaders. I'm currently Paragon 30 with 4/6 Akkhan set pieces.

I am planning to go for 4x Invoker, I'll farm the parts when I'll be able to chain high Torment... I'm currently running Torment 1.

Good luck guys :)

[Devile]

Started late ... Para 56 with 4/6 Marauders. Not much time to play and lag is horrible ... AGAIN!

[Cmoidudu]

Lag is ok here...

I'm Paragon 110, stuck with 4/6 Akkhan, but I looted an Akkhan chestplate and put it on a character that cubed a Ring of Royal Grandeur, and this dude is sort of doing the job for the rest of the team (+450% damage). Doing Torment V at the moment.

I looted some Fate of the Fell flails while progressing, cubed them, and I'm using Akarat's Champion + Falling Sword + Heaven's Fury, works nice on elite packs. I wanted to go for Blessed Shield, but I didn't get the required stuff, so I changed my mind.

[Wgizmo]

Solo atm para 200+ DH. As soon will reach TX farm status I start with Multibox. I hope day after tomorrow ;)

[Shodokan]

Paragon ~ 500, GR 60 down in sub 5 mins on 4x dh... no ancient yangs yet.

[NetQvist]

I've been dabbling around with 4x DHs a bit. Only my main is really geared well but I've found a interesting setup with them. Main is like 725-750 para and alts around 350-450 something. Quite bored of the season already though

2x normal UE builds using fire ballistics with cycled wolf pet
1x UE build using the knockback multishot, this skill is crazy at knocking stuff away from you! A bit unsure how it will play out but some things are so much easier to clear with it. This guy is also using the boar pet right now for the extra def stats
1x UE build using the cold multshot for more crit as well having calamity + dawn instead of yang for the mark as well also using the contagion mark. Think I'm also using the numbing traps passive on this guy.

For gems I'm using trapped and zei on the 3 first guys, esoteric on the main and toxins for damage buff + reduction on all others. The last guy is using iceblink + gogok for more crit and a bit more cooldown to get some extra discipline due to having no yangs with RCR for the vaults atm.

I did a 70 or something at 10 minutes the first try but my main is at like 1,8 mil sheet while the others are running 0,5-0,7 mil dps. So ye it can get a lot faster, will see if I can be arsed continuing now that overwatch is playable =P

[Cmoidudu]

Well it seems that I have taken the long road ! I'm still at Paragon 180 x4, I know I should have picked DHs but I don't feel too confident about completing a GR75 solo with a DH... so I'm gathering Invoker pieces at the moment, and I'll either go for Akkhan/Invoker or full Invoker, whatever works the best.

Oh and also I killed a Menagerie Goblin and I got 4x pets, all different. I mean, 1 for each character ;)

[Wrathen]

just started playing D3 last night for the first time in a few weeks. Got my main DH up to 70 and para 67 going to PL the other 3 DHs tonight and start working on gear.

[NetQvist]

Well it seems that I have taken the long road ! I'm still at Paragon 180 x4, I know I should have picked DHs but I don't feel too confident about completing a GR75 solo with a DH... so I'm gathering Invoker pieces at the moment, and I'll either go for Akkhan/Invoker or full Invoker, whatever works the best.

Oh and also I killed a Menagerie Goblin and I got 4x pets, all different. I mean, 1 for each character ;)

DH 75 with UE is pretty darn easy, you might need a few resets to get a rift with better mobs. Here's my current DH with way better gear than needed for it.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NetQvist-2965/hero/77299805

Cindercoat in cube and wraps of clarity for bracers which are wrong right now.

[Devile]

U cant go wrong with DHs. Fairly easy to gear and once u get UE, u will pretty much AoE 1 shot GR50 or so with suboptimal gear. U can get really high on Paragon very fast with them. I dont think GR80 will be any difficult tbh. Still needing a few items (dawns, yangs, f&r, etc.) but already doing 50s in less than 5mins and para 300. My lag issues and RL duties didn't let me play much tho.

@NetQvist, how are u procing Numbing Traps? Grenades? Cold multishot wont proc it. Nvm, it does :D

[NetQvist]

@NetQvist, how are u procing Numbing Traps? Grenades? Cold multishot wont proc it. Nvm, it does :D

I was about as confused and surprised as you when I saw that it procs it :o

[Devile]

The wording is weird, but yes, it procs when u slow/chill so it works. Doing 60s now fairly fast. Fully geared, but with suboptimal rolls, just added socked to my weapons with shit Emeralds, no ancient Yangs yet. Para 412 now. Really need gems! Gonna do a bunch of Vaults with Broken Crowns, see if that helps.

[Wrathen]

I leeched four GR50 speed runs on my main account while at lunch today and got my first Dawn and first Yang's drop by the end of it ... SO that should help rocket me up a little bit. I think I'm up to 4/6 UE so getting alot closer. In addition bumped me from 82 Para to like 150'ish

[Shodokan]

Currently trying to get full ancient gear for a wizard because that class is absurd for carrying others, especially with caldesian's. Friend's P950 wizard is able to carry GR 75 in sub 5 mins with 3 others just sitting at entrance.

I think DH will have a lower cap and a higher clear time even compared to a single fully geared wizard.

Currently sitting on two DH with ancient weps (one with full ancients minus amulet/one ring/bracer) and clearing GR 60+ with relative ease but other characters are a bit far behind as far as quality of gear. All are above 1m sheet dps though.

Since I do a lot of carrying I actually plan this season to do caldesian's for 4 different classes instead of just on the 4 DH or wizards or whatever I decide to play. Likely end up with monk, crusader, wd, wizard.

The more I think about it though from a single character perspective wizard is best in class for everything except bounties and even then if you are going twister wizard for group play and doing your augments on your Talrasha you can use an aetherwalker build and do them as fast as anything.

[Cmoidudu]

Still far below, fortunately I'm not in a hurry... Paragon ~340 at the moment with my 4x Crusaders.

I started with 3x Heaven's Fury template and 1x whatever up to T7 because it's the loot I got, then I have been running 4x Blessed Hammer template, not my choice but I had the gear for, worked pretty nice, running T10's and GR 46-47, but even with 100% uptime on Akarat's Champion, I have been dying a lot past GR47. DPS is ok, completing GRs under 6-7 minutes but really, Crusader templates that are not Invokers s*ck because of the lack of toughness. But...

... I now have my 4x dudes with full Invoker set with Aquila Cuirass, Hack, and cube items that fit (Convention of elements, Heart of Iron, Mortal Drama). Of course, stats on gear are so-so but this is only the beginning. However, stupidly enough, I forgot to level the Boyarsky's chip :mad:

Also, I have been running 4x Gem of Efficaceous Toxin at level 25, and I don't think it gives 40% damage reduction and 40% damage increase :(

[NetQvist]

70s at like 5-8mins with my DHs atm, it's pretty sad that my non ancient geared FB archon wiz is faster than this solo with 3 other wizards sitting around.

[Shodokan]

70s at like 5-8mins with my DHs atm, it's pretty sad that my non ancient geared FB archon wiz is faster than this solo with 3 other wizards sitting around.

In GR 70s?

[NetQvist]

In GR 70s?

The damn thing instakills elites up to like 80s in 4 mans with a 12xx damage weapon, it's hilariously overpowered. My defenses however are a bit bad so it requires quite a bit of dodging.

[Wgizmo]

Im not taking any classes atm to my team. I will do try push as max I can with 4x DH. All in diffrent specs. I know meta is meta but I dont want to do what everyone eals do. I want to try something what others dont or do t play. I want to enjoy not to be forced to play something I dont like imo. Will keep you updated when I reach some decent level of progression.

[Devile]

Shortest season ever for me. Almost done with Conqueror. I get my stash tab and back to non season to try the meta.

[Cmoidudu]

I thought you'd like this video :p

So, I only have to grind 3x gems to level 65 as a second Conquest, then some easy stuff and I'm done with s6. No need to solo GR75 anymore...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ieaI7e5oyo

[Devile]

I hate you! How could u find that damn Bounty? Not once but FOUR TIMES???? WTF?!?!? I've been fishing for that shit 3 DAYS. Reloading single char to get 4x chance and non have seen that Bounty in days of fishing! Wasted so many hours on it, I'll just do GR75 and be done with it. That or T10 rift in 2 minutes in pub game single chars. I'm Para 547 and almost done with 65 gems, doing 70 easy. I'll be able to do 75 solo in a few hours.

With DHs that quest is like 400 kills EASY on first try, even at para 200 :P I've created so many games in the past 3 days looking for that bounty that I really thought they removed it from S6. I've even explored the damn map plenty of times looking for the event without the bounty and nothing. I once got the map, but it was another event :/

[Shodokan]

I hate you! How could u find that damn Bounty? Not once but FOUR TIMES???? WTF?!?!? I've been fishing for that shit 3 DAYS. Reloading single char to get 4x chance and non have seen that Bounty in days of fishing! Wasted so many hours on it, I'll just do GR75 and be done with it. That or T10 rift in 2 minutes in pub game single chars. I'm Para 547 and almost done with 65 gems, doing 70 easy. I'll be able to do 75 solo in a few hours.

With DHs that quest is like 400 kills EASY on first try, even at para 200 :P I've created so many games in the past 3 days looking for that bounty that I really thought they removed it from S6. I've even explored the damn map plenty of times looking for the event without the bounty and nothing. I once got the map, but it was another event :/

It took wudi's group like 5-6 hours to get it if i remember the 2nd/3rd day of the season. That bounty is rare.

[Cmoidudu]

I hate you! How could u find that damn Bounty? Not once but FOUR TIMES???? WTF?!?!? (...)
Well... If you look at the clock I got #2 at 16:27, #3 at 16:59 and #4 at 17:11 so that's not so rare or I'm extremely lucky :)

[Devile]

Yeah right, like I've invested just 2 hours trying :P I'm talking about 3 days in a row, no less than 2 hours per day and NOTHING. All I get is the fucking "Clear the Perilous Cave" bounty and a few others. I tried 1 hour today and same shit ... I can't get this bounty! I find it so unreal that u got the bounty, not once but 4 times so fast. I know RNG is a bitch, but come on! 4 days now, endless hours and not a single one? something must be wrong. This is clearly not random. Tried at different hours and the same result.

That's why I'm just leveling Paragon to do GR75 and lvl65 gems.

PS: I'm gonna cry ... I was posting this and got it. Recorded it ... there are tears all over my keyboard! Done with Season :D

[Cmoidudu]

Congrats for completing season :cool:

You would have completed season before me anyway, I'll be busy this week, plus I will upgrade to Windows 10, get a key, and do a clean format from scratch with Windows 10... Thanks Microsoft... How to impose an un-necessary boring procedure...

Also I am not very pleased with 4x Crusaders, I thought they could complete higher GRs with 2.4.1, but I'm stuck at GR 60-61 at the moment, so leveling gem to 65 will be longer than expected. I have nothing Caldesann'd, and I have an unusually low ratio of ancients (I guess I can't always be lucky, right ?) but still, the team doesn't seem to perform better than in S5.

[Cmoidudu]

I think there is a problem with multiple Invokers... I could run GR60's in 7-8 minutes average 4 times when solo, and I need 13-14 minutes to complete a GR60 with 4x Crusaders in a team. It's obvious when fighting the boss, it takes so much longer...

So maybe there's only 1 stack on Thorns per target instead of 4, or something like this.

[Devile]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-loDfUGtquM

Nothing beats DHs for getting that stash tab fast IMO. Finished with Paragon 600+ and doing GR70+ in party.

[NetQvist]

Just as a note, it's easier to get that chest by not looking for the bounty and just looking for the hill itself. There's very few locations for the hill and it's either the chest or the event there if it spawns.

[Devile]

I did that too and nothing. I was able to find the hill once but there was another event with no chest. Finally got the bounty after endless tries.

[Wrathen]

Are you running 4 UE DHs or 3 UE & A zDPS?

[Wrathen]

Are you running 4 UE DHs or 3 UE & A zDPS?

So far I have enough stuff to get 2 of my 4 with UE, I have another one that is missing a Yang's and 1 pc of UE then the last one ... only 2 PCs of UE. I was thinking about maybe specing him for zDPS because funny enough he has almost all that stuff. Right now I had until last night just been running 4 Marauders, but then at the end of the night switched to 2 UE & 2 Marauders and clear speed when up greatly.

[Devile]

4 UE DPS, no zDPS. Wasn't planning on pushing high GR with DHs. Played seasons only to get my stash tab. Going back to non season now to test the meta. 4 UE will do GR70 fairly easy with Para 500+ and just a few ancients. I only had 2 suboptimal ancient Yangs and a few pieces here and there. No caldisan's on any piece of armor (wasn't planning on staying long), no hellfire amulets either.

Also, for a 4x DH party, it makes little sense to me, to have 1 of them to be a zDPS. I rather have all 4 be DPS and just have a few "support" features on 1-2 of them without losing so much party DPS:

Companion Wolf: 2 DHs can have full uptime of it. Not like there are many skills to replace it, maybe Shadow Power but don't think it will add much. DH #3 can have Boar so u get some nice life regen and all res too.
Marked for Death: your 4th DH can have this instead of Companion. Sure u will miss the 20% debuff from a zDPS when stacking Calamity MfD but u get far more DPS with a Yang.
Multishot Windchill: have 1 DH run this with Cold damage on bracers/amulet.
Numbing Traps: Have the Cold DH use this passive.
Thrill of the Hunt: Any DH can have this.
Iceblink Gem: Cold DH can have this.
Toxin Gem: Any DH can have this.
Senty Guardian Turret: Pretty much the only skill u will kinda miss, but with a party of 4 DHs, is not like u will stay in 1 place without moving in order to benefit from this. Sure u can have up to 5 sentries, but I rather play from a very long range and move a lot.

It makes more sense to have a zDPS DH for a mixed party IMO, not much for 4x DHs. Prolly a better choice would be a SMK Zuni WD. But even then, just pure DPS DHs should be able to do GR80s with decent gear (Para 800+, ancient weapons, 70+ gems, caldisans, hellfire amulets, etc.).

[Wrathen]

4 UE DPS, no zDPS. Wasn't planning on pushing high GR with DHs. Played seasons only to get my stash tab. Going back to non season now to test the meta. 4 UE will do GR70 fairly easy with Para 500+ and just a few ancients. I only had 2 suboptimal ancient Yangs and a few pieces here and there. No caldisan's on any piece of armor (wasn't planning on staying long), no hellfire amulets either.

Also, for a 4x DH party, it makes little sense to me, to have 1 of them to be a zDPS. I rather have all 4 be DPS and just have a few "support" features on 1-2 of them without losing so much party DPS:

Companion Wolf: 2 DHs can have full uptime of it. Not like there are many skills to replace it, maybe Shadow Power but don't think it will add much. DH #3 can have Boar so u get some nice life regen and all res too.
Marked for Death: your 4th DH can have this instead of Companion. Sure u will miss the 20% debuff from a zDPS when stacking Calamity MfD but u get far more DPS with a Yang.
Multishot Windchill: have 1 DH run this with Cold damage on bracers/amulet.
Numbing Traps: Have the Cold DH use this passive.
Thrill of the Hunt: Any DH can have this.
Iceblink Gem: Cold DH can have this.
Toxin Gem: Any DH can have this.
Senty Guardian Turret: Pretty much the only skill u will kinda miss, but with a party of 4 DHs, is not like u will stay in 1 place without moving in order to benefit from this. Sure u can have up to 5 sentries, but I rather play from a very long range and move a lot.

It makes more sense to have a zDPS DH for a mixed party IMO, not much for 4x DHs. Prolly a better choice would be a SMK Zuni WD. But even then, just pure DPS DHs should be able to do GR80s with decent gear (Para 800+, ancient weapons, 70+ gems, caldisans, hellfire amulets, etc.).

Cool thank you very much for your time in answering me. This is the first time I have played a DH so its all kind of new to me. Enjoying them so far though. How would be the best way to stagger the Wolf buffs to give 100% uptime?

[Wgizmo]

You should call wolf when your elemments ring procs same as the rest. Remember to have oculus on one of them to boost dmg even more. Anyway I was forced to go for wizz as guild dont have any active. So atm from solo 75+ dh I need to go for Wizz setup. Its early season then I still can play around to see what will be best for me.

[Devile]

Cool thank you very much for your time in answering me. This is the first time I have played a DH so its all kind of new to me. Enjoying them so far though. How would be the best way to stagger the Wolf buffs to give 100% uptime?

Just research about ROUND ROBIN. This is prolly the most useful feature in IsBoxer. Basically u define a keymap that will cast a spell in order between the chars you select. For example, in this case Wolf will rotate from DH #1 to DH #2. Assuming you have 33.37% CDR or higher, u will have 10 secs of Wolf downtime on each DH. If you round robin Wolf for those 2 DHs, whenever you press Wolf, it will only send the keystroke to DH #1 for those 10 secs. Once the 10 secs are over, if u press Wolf again, it will send the keystroke to DH #2 now, so on and so forth. Since the skill has a 10 secs duration and 10 secs cooldown, rotating between 2 DHs every 10 secs will give you 100% uptime of the buff.

That way you can have perma uptime of several party buffs and not need to have the exact same skills for all 4 chars. For example with 4 Barbs, u can have 2 Barbs with WarCries and Chilanik Belts to have perma 40% movement speed, and 2 Barbs with Ignore Pain Mob Rule with Pride of Cassius for perma Ignore Pain. No need to have all 4 Barbs with WarCry or Ignore Pain. Without round robin, you have straight keymaps that execute the same skill at the same time for all chars. Round Robin changes that and lets u create sequences and send keys to specific chars after specific times. No need to worry about CoE with this.

I've been reading reddit lately and this TalRasha Archon build just did GR103:

http://www.d3planner.com/598568969

Sure Para 3000+ but still seems very strong and I like Archon a lot more than stupid twister stacking on walls. It's a matter of changing a few skills (teleport, illusionist, etc.) and may work. Seems stronger that Firebird's Archon.

[Shodokan]

Just research about ROUND ROBIN. This is prolly the most useful feature in IsBoxer. Basically u define a keymap that will cast a spell in order between the chars you select. For example, in this case Wolf will rotate from DH #1 to DH #2. Assuming you have 33.37% CDR or higher, u will have 10 secs of Wolf downtime on each DH. If you round robin Wolf for those 2 DHs, whenever you press Wolf, it will only send the keystroke to DH #1 for those 10 secs. Once the 10 secs are over, if u press Wolf again, it will send the keystroke to DH #2 now, so on and so forth. Since the skill has a 10 secs duration and 10 secs cooldown, rotating between 2 DHs every 10 secs will give you 100% uptime of the buff.

That way you can have perma uptime of several party buffs and not need to have the exact same skills for all 4 chars. For example with 4 Barbs, u can have 2 Barbs with WarCries and Chilanik Belts to have perma 40% movement speed, and 2 Barbs with Ignore Pain Mob Rule with Pride of Cassius for perma Ignore Pain. No need to have all 4 Barbs with WarCry or Ignore Pain. Without round robin, you have straight keymaps that execute the same skill at the same time for all chars. Round Robin changes that and lets u create sequences and send keys to specific chars after specific times. No need to worry about CoE with this.

I've been reading reddit lately and this TalRasha Archon build just did GR103:

http://www.d3planner.com/598568969

Sure Para 3000+ but still seems very strong and I like Archon a lot more than stupid twister stacking on walls. It's a matter of changing a few skills (teleport, illusionist, etc.) and may work. Seems stronger that Firebird's Archon.


I'm not too sure I agree with that as far as fast rift clears go, but it may be a bit tankier due to tals set. It doesn't seem to have that great burst damage from watching the video.

[Cmoidudu]

Just research about ROUND ROBIN. (...), it will only send the keystroke to DH #1 for those 10 secs. Once the 10 secs are over, if u press Wolf again, it will send the keystroke to DH #2 now, so on and so forth. Since the skill has a 10 secs duration and 10 secs cooldown, rotating between 2 DHs every 10 secs will give you 100% uptime of the buff. (...)
Eventually you can have your mouse programmed with a loop that hits this key every second, but IsBoxer will only allow this keystroke to move to character #2 after 10 seconds...

[Devile]

I'm not too sure I agree with that as far as fast rift clears go, but it may be a bit tankier due to tals set. It doesn't seem to have that great burst damage from watching the video.

I haven't tested it yet, but feedback seems positive. Some ppl getting a bit higher than with FB. I like a lot the fact that it's tankier. I wanna try 3 wizards + support Crusader, see how that works. Wasn't very familiar with Chantodo's, but this kinda cleared a few things that didn't make sense to me:

https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo3/comments/4itzr3/some_chantodo_elemental_damage_testing_from_one/

[Shodokan]

I haven't tested it yet, but feedback seems positive. Some ppl getting a bit higher than with FB. I like a lot the fact that it's tankier. I wanna try 3 wizards + support Crusader, see how that works. Wasn't very familiar with Chantodo's, but this kinda cleared a few things that didn't make sense to me:

https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo3/comments/4itzr3/some_chantodo_elemental_damage_testing_from_one/

That was a good video, it also means that it scales off of int. So if you can't get a 1% less arcane than fire roll (EX my APD are amazing but have 16% fire) i have to choose between 15% arcane (which is hard to get) or just int on my amulet.

That being said the tals wizard spec is basically LoN bombardment in playstyle. Get 20 stack chantodo's, turn into archon for 3 ticks then wait another 30 seconds or so for another archon.

[Devile]

Yep, u need 1% less of Arcane damage and the rest in Fire for Firebird's to do Fire damage and Arcane to maximize your Chantodo's damage.

But then, if that's the case, why not stack Arcane Damage instead of Cold for the TalRasha spec? Prolly cause of Teleport Calamity and he already has Arcane covered? But since we won't be using teleport, might as well do Arcane Damage with archon and just use something else to get the Cold Damage with Frost Nova instead of teleport and get all 4 Tal's stacks. Something like:

http://www.d3planner.com/131660773

Not sure if Frozen Mist will proc APD since it no longer freezes and I believe Halo of Arlyse inherits Frost Nova's rune.

PS: It doesn't. Only Frozen Mist gives you a Tal's stack but if u use it, say good bye to APD cause it won't proc the buff. Algo, procs don't proc other effects, so Halo of Arlyse novas wont proc Meteors nor give Tal's stacks so its useless anyway.

I don't understand much why this build is good. U lose all stacks in like 8 secs after casting Archon. So best case scenario: u will get keep 4 stacks during 8 secs and then 1 stack during the other 12 secs Archon lasts, not to mention u get very few meteors cause u are using a single element during Archon. My guess is that Vyr's is what actually gives u the damage (all Archon runes) and u can stay in Archon form more often (20 secs less cooldown). Also it provides more survivability while not in Archon form because of Tal's stacks + The Swami + Orb of Infinite Depth. Also, u need to time your CoE so u go into Archon right before the phase so u maximize your damage.

U also dont have to rely on procs to get into Archon faster, which is far more consistent. U dont rely on AP either, which can be annoying with RGs that dont spawn adds. Overall, seems ok, but Firebird's numbers look much much better. Guess those "small" benefits add up and make it compete or even beat Firebird's.

[Shodokan]

Yep, u need 1% less of Arcane damage and the rest in Fire for Firebird's to do Fire damage and Arcane to maximize your Chantodo's damage.

But then, if that's the case, why not stack Arcane Damage instead of Cold for the TalRasha spec? Prolly cause of Teleport Calamity and he already has Arcane covered? But since we won't be using teleport, might as well do Arcane Damage with archon and just use something else to get the Cold Damage with Frost Nova instead of teleport and get all 4 Tal's stacks. Something like:

http://www.d3planner.com/131660773

Not sure if Frozen Mist will proc APD since it no longer freezes and I believe Halo of Arlyse inherits Frost Nova's rune.

PS: It doesn't. Only Frozen Mist gives you a Tal's stack but if u use it, say good bye to APD cause it won't proc the buff. Algo, procs don't proc other effects, so Halo of Arlyse novas wont proc Meteors nor give Tal's stacks so its useless anyway.

I don't understand much why this build is good. U lose all stacks in like 8 secs after casting Archon. So best case scenario: u will get keep 4 stacks during 8 secs and then 1 stack during the other 12 secs Archon lasts, not to mention u get very few meteors cause u are using a single element during Archon. My guess is that Vyr's is what actually gives u the damage (all Archon runes) and u can stay in Archon form more often (20 secs less cooldown). Also it provides more survivability while not in Archon form because of Tal's stacks + The Swami + Orb of Infinite Depth. Also, u need to time your CoE so u go into Archon right before the phase so u maximize your damage.

U also dont have to rely on procs to get into Archon faster, which is far more consistent. U dont rely on AP either, which can be annoying with RGs that dont spawn adds. Overall, seems ok, but Firebird's numbers look much much better. Guess those "small" benefits add up and make it compete or even beat Firebird's.

Only the first 3 pulses of chantodo's deal absurd damage and that is what this build focuses on (this takes less than 8 seconds to occur). Also the teleport rune in archon is baseline calamity, you use safe passage otherwise. That means that you scale it based on arcane only because of that, but because vyr's gives all runes you should be able to scale it properly with all elements.

[Devile]

I'm gonna try to 3x Wizards + support Crusader and see how I do:

http://www.d3planner.com/131660773
http://www.d3planner.com/178609251

Tal'Rasha Archon stacking pure Cold but with Fire Hydras which will give me 2 meteors instead of just 1 and some more DPS since they last 15 secs and u keep getting meteors after being casted. Support Crusader won't give much but Wings of Angels, but may be enough for fast 80s or even higher, who knows. I'll report my findings :D It's gonna take some time to get used to this since u need to time CoE, Hydras, Chantodo's, BlackHole (stack damage when there's good density) and keep Tal's stacks (this one is easy at least).

[Cmoidudu]

I have a small video for you guys... I know you're going to hate me... :cool:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CohIvGptXjI

[woloss]

I have a small video for you guys... I know you're going to hate me... :cool:
Cheater! Report!
Amazing, I didn't have something like this even at PTR, where 2000% drop chance. What is your secret? :rolleyes:

[Cmoidudu]

Well I can't be unlucky all the time. As a reminder, I never got an ancien Twister Sword so...

Season 6 over by the way. I had to re-roll 4x DH, didn't took too long with some luck, as you can see ;)