[WoW] 10 Box Movement Tests - Eyecandy :)

[Xzin]

Well... I think I got movement worked out on all 10 :)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7775069164425274386&hl=en

[keyclone]

very nice moves.

don't you end up with facing issues if the targets enter the center of your circle? how do you remedy that? do you have an about face sequence so they face the center of the circle? or just recall them and redeploy to a position that would face the target?

[Xzin]

More the latter - I can /follow such that they face the person who is set to focus.

Or just cast DOTs or Arcane Missiles or simply AoE.

It is usually faster to just follow and then target though.

The spread out macro is to get out of AoE range really when I am getting beat on.

[keyclone]

yea, that's been my experience so far.

looks very sweet tho

[brick]

Wow, Just amazing, Your control over so many characters is impressive. I love what you do, please make more videos so I can follow up on your progress with your 10 man team.

[Tech249]

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That was awesome. :)

[beyond-tec]

holy s... :shock: :shock: :shock:

u rock

[Ztar]

Dude, that is just so :shock: :D :shock:

How do you get the chars moving in a direction that is not an 90°, i do get the toons moving left, right, forward and back, but the ones moving in an none 90° angle makes me :shock: ...

anyway... good stuff...

[Bena]

very nice.. you make me wanna go 10boxing :D

[Blokus]

The intimidation factor alone from seeing this will make alliance pukes soil their shorts.

"Hey Gimli, what's that black cloud coming this way?"

"Don't know Legolas, it looks like horde, but I can't quite make out any names. Its all fuzzy."

<Zins spread out into combat formation 1>

"Oh my god, we're gonna die!!!"

[zanthor]

Any chance for some details on how your accomplishing this movement? I am particularly interested in the movement.

[Xzin]

If you hold down move forward and straft left, you go diagonal. The rest you should be able to figure out.

Just for the record, that takes me 1 key press. A second key press moves them back in (sort of, walking backwards is at a different speed than forward so it is not 1:1).

Also for the record, this is all accomplished in hardware only.

[blackwatch]

Brilliant.

Don't know what else to say other than that...

Just bloody and completely brilliant.

[Suribusi]

Nice vid. :o

-S

[Xzin]

LOL - I posted it to WoW General Forums and within a few minutes - topic deleted.

But not before I got some quality "general forum drivel" responses:

"I might be wrong, but you are indeed using some kind of software or hardware to get them to move like that. Its not possible to get what you saw in the video with just macros. Also, many of those characters looked exactly the same at a highish level so I am going to guess you were doing that on a private server? Or do you have that many high levels of the same class with the exact same gear?"

"I'm surprised it's possible to do unit formations with no third party software."

[JesDyr]

My questions are ...

How often does lag hit and mess it up?

How long did it take to figure out those timings?


That is some very nice work .. I love it :)


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[Suribusi]

LOL - I posted it to WoW General Forums and within a few minutes - topic deleted.

But not before I got some quality "general forum drivel" responses:

"I might be wrong, but you are indeed using some kind of software or hardware to get them to move like that. Its not possible to get what you saw in the video with just macros. Also, many of those characters looked exactly the same at a highish level so I am going to guess you were doing that on a private server? Or do you have that many high levels of the same class with the exact same gear?"

"I'm surprised it's possible to do unit formations with no third party software."

Yeah, I got that same thing in game with my crew. A lot of people thought I was hacking the game for gear, since afterall, how could 4 70 mages have the exact same gear?! The didn't put two and two together with... "Hmm...he is playing them at the same time...and their gear is mainly outlands quest rewards...hmmm...". :lol:. Maybe it is more obvious since I already know how I got all the gear. But the responses from oblivious people are quite entertaining indeed. :wink:

The forum moderators over there are Nazi's, good luck posting stuff. If you get like 3-strikes with deleted posts I think your forums privs get actioned. Not sure though.

-S

[Xzin]

Almost never.

Not long.

Will try to :)

[brick]

More the latter - I can /follow such that they face the person who is set to focus.

Or just cast DOTs or Arcane Missiles or simply AoE.

It is usually faster to just follow and then target though.

The spread out macro is to get out of AoE range really when I am getting beat on.

How did you make a spread out macro? I don't recall being able to move characters using macro commands.... I understand using /follow to get them to face you and then "w"to move them back in, but to make them face all their respective angles to then use "w" to move out is beyond me.

[D00mbunn13s]

How did you make a spread out macro? I don't recall being able to move characters using macro commands.... I understand using /follow to get them to face you and then "w"to move them back in, but to make them face all their respective angles to then use "w" to move out is beyond me.
i haven't seen the video yet, cause of work firewalls, but i figure it would be pretty easy...

Bind one key to move two characters in a diag direction, (Strafe + Forward) and two to just Strafe. With 10 characters that adds a lot of interesting combinations. Like keybind move foward two have the group, then keybind different lateral moves from there. One goes forward, one goes left, right, forward left, forward right, back left, back right.

this can be done with a couple of simple key presses. 1 key to seperate the groups, then one to spread them out. boom, instant start burst of toons ready to do damage.

[Xzin]

http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/07/multiboxing-in-formation-with-xzin/

[unit187]

Reading the comments.

While posting descriptions to your videos you should say that there is no botting or cheating, nothing is automatic and everything is controlled by human. Alot of people think that all of that is made by some software without human being controlling all the movements.

[MrLonghair]

As usual, the comments are a great laugh to start the morning with.

[deadarcher]

http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/07/multiboxing-in-formation-with-xzin/

Very nice man...but what the hell is up with that 'Mike' who posted it?

It's like 'oh, this is boring to me but I'll do what you tell me to community'. (but it's cool because everyone who posted a reply was so interested in it rofl)

Oh well, at least its good publicity!

[Xzin]

Haha!

"However, this new video shows a level of automation that I would consider to be was beyond what is allowed. when he has his toons running around making patterns it is obvious this is not done by skill full key pressing.. :("

"I think blizzard should suspend this account and have a talk with him as how he is pulling off these complex character formations. He obviously can't move each of those characters at the same time precisley as he does. That would lead me to belive that a program moves the characters and that sounds an awful lot like botting."

[Atsuki]

A character-moving macro looks like what?
Just looking for something to start with. :wink:

[Xzin]

Who knows - I guess like my video :)

[Shogun]

A character-moving macro looks like what?
Just looking for something to start with. :wink:

So far from what I've tried, and what I've read, everyone is doing creatives things with just keybinds, there are no move macros apart from /follow

So instead of WASD and QE for movements you bind things "creatively"

Lets say you took just the number keys on 5 characters, toons are A-E:

1:
A:No keybind, stands still
B: Moves left (straffe)
C: Moves right
D: Moves back
E: Moves forwards

2: reverse the above

3:
A: stands still
B: Forwards
C: Backwards
D: Left
E: Right

Now pressing one splits them out in a "+" formation. Pressing 1+3 will make them split into an "X"

If you have 10 characters like Xzin, you just use variations on those types of things to achieve what you're looking for, people crying "Bot" etc are just too short-sighted and too quick to cry out before thinking about what is perfectly possible. There are shorter 4 letter names for these people ofc.

[Atsuki]

Got the message loud and clear, found it myself. :oops:
Nice stuff going there, it's inspiring.

Thanks for sharing your experiences.

Edit: Yeah Shogun, I was thinking about something along that way, but that's not a macro-way. Thought there was something else to it.

[Shogun]

Just to be clear, the comments about people on my previous post are aimed at those replying to the WoWinsider thread that Xzin has linked and has quoted. People on these boards are better informed than to assume botting etc...

[deadarcher]

Wow, 'movement botting'....that's a new one for me.

If I ever go insane one day and start shooting people, don't blame me please.

[Lance]

Awesome moves xzin! Was well impressed with that video. :)

I personally wouldn't have posted this anywhere other than this forum...imo that's just attracting attention for the sake of it. If you deliberately try to stir it up you never know what will happen.

[MrLonghair]

What they're saying is "I don't have the time and money and effort required to pull this off myself, much less the skill to do it, so I'm going to complain about it and call him a cheater".

[Ubor]

What they're saying is "I don't have the time and money and effort required to pull this off myself, much less the skill to do it, so I'm going to complain about it and call him a cheater".

QFT

[Xzin]

I honestly think some people see "formation" think .. is this possible in WoW? No. Logical conclusion - they MUST be botting since I can't figure out how it is done.

[Wilbur]

Generally speaking people don't like to feel inferior, or have their intelligence questioned. What you are doing is beyond a fair few people's scope of comprehension, they conclude, if they cant figure out how its done its got to be 'Hax' no other explanation for it.

There's not to much that we, as a community can do, apart from keeping squeaky clean records with Blizz' and generally being cooperative or at least answering the odd couple of questions that other players ask.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well this is one area where I seem to be beat.

I can only move one guy at a time, although I can get to that particular one is under 3 seconds from out of 24, still the other 23 won't move while I am controling that one.

I can use autofollow though and because I have 6 computers its perfect if all the different characters are on different computers.

Of course I am EQ1, I understand the in game socials in wow are a lot more robust. Our 5 line limitation is really da pits.

[caldvn]

Well this is one area where I seem to be beat.

I can only move one guy at a time, although I can get to that particular one is under 3 seconds from out of 24, still the other 23 won't move while I am controling that one.

I can use autofollow though and because I have 6 computers its perfect if all the different characters are on different computers.

Of course I am EQ1, I understand the in game socials in wow are a lot more robust. Our 5 line limitation is really da pits.

Most of the stuff is bound to different keys, same can be applied to EQ, it's been awhile since I boxed eq, I mostly just used follow in EQ.

For example, my main will be controled with standard keys, and the rest of the alts will be bound to different keys. my other toons are bound to updownleftright arrows, so I can move them (Keyword them), not each individually the way I want.

So if you watch the video you can see that he has one main at the center, and the rest are alts, those alts are tied to same key for movements.

[binkiebink]

:shock:
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