[Alpha/Beta] Legion

[ebony]

AM now 3 Boxing beta!

As always ill be using this topic to post about changing to wow from a mutiboxing point of view.
(all stuff might change from build to build)

BOXERS TOOLS

FOLLOW works. and seems to work when tagged for pvp.

ITW works and works with CTM like it does now. (Melee hunters can not use this as it does the same as live when you get within ranged it stops)

CTM works like normal and is still here


PVP


5v5 arena has been removed!

PvP - PvP-talents/stats work in arena and bg's

World-PvP - PvP-talents work but stats do not.

Follow still does not work in ins PvP

Under the dala there is a PvP area that follow is working on atm. (might change)

Mob Tagging system And Looting Rules

So this is a really random system where it says up to five players can get on the loot/kill list of random mobs in the world this does every mob in the world (all zones all xpacs) this is when a player from the same side as you tag a mob you get the credit as well.

Now it comes to grouping and seems a bit mixed from what i manged to test in beta. thats hard with one account using randoms and friends to try and max a party is not easy :(

there is a tweet from muffins about this and seems it can infect go over the 5 cap

So, in #Legion, if a party of 4 and a party of 3 all tag a normal outdoor mob, do all 7 people get credit & loot for the kill?
yes (Muffinus (https://twitter.com/Muffinus/status/724066688094736384))

Unsure but it seems you can 5 party's 5 on a target.

Looting rules

All outdoor zones in and out of a party does not matter what you have loot set to will be personal to that character
Gold is personal to the char as well so this means you want every character to loot every mob after you killed it! sounds fun (eyes start bleeding)

http://i.imgur.com/lfoUfyO.jpg

this works in every zone it seems even the old world!

http://i.imgur.com/VAZlfQ1.jpg


Dungeons seem to be the only place you can set the loot to FFA/Group etc.


Class Halls

Starting class Quests are Not doable as a group and you get a popup saying this. or though i did find today some parts you could do as a group. and some you could not so i just did each part then waited to bring thought the others some parts even though they was not in the same phase the quests was getting tragged as done!

AKA - Garrisons MKII:

So follow works in all "Class Halls" they are classed as city's and they are world safe Zones! they are shared with classes the same as you you get most of your quests from here.

Missions that seems more like ship yard missions then the WoD missions from what i can tell there reset missions for the class not random so every Class should get the same mission ((update when i get more betas to test more))

You still have work orders they seem to be to train troops or build them? as a warlock you go to the imp mother and she gets u a set of imps you can use for mission they can do 2 missions and they then die.

Your followers can be added to the world map for a cost and gives you a buff in the every zone this is from bodyguards and other Nuke kinda spells that have cool downs.

Class halls have portals all over (new)dala and they are all over the place trust me. if i was playing a mixed group it would blow my brains out. or though the city is not that big it would be more legwork.

Saying that some classes have portal spells there the classes that already have some kinda portal or had one before.

Druids - lost moongade and got the Dream as there portal spell that gives them access to around old zones of wow kinda fun (the big dragon portals EG: dustwood) there is a portal there to the class hall as well.

Mages - they have a portal to there class hall.

Deathknights - use there old Gate to the moved deathknight flying thing.

Monks - same as live but takes them to there new class hall.

I hope i not left any out.


Jamba

Started the update for jamba if anyone else is boxing beta then you can download it here:

https://github.com/ebonyfaye/Jamba-Legion

and i been doing some of this live on

https://www.twitch.tv/ebonyfaye


Other

Guild res got removed.

[Kayley]

Yay \o/ can't wait.

[ebony]

So far i have found out:

BOXERS TOOLS

FOLLOW works. and seems to work when tagged for pvp.

ITW works and works with CTM like it does now.

CTM works like normal and is still here


PVP

no pvp items are working on beta


5v5 arena has benn removed from the UI changes i data mined.

inBattleground() was removed from the api and has been renamed to WorldBattles and pulls new information for some kinda LFG/Quest wpvp system that works with pvp changes (talents/stats)

[Lyonheart]

I just got in as well.. wish i could box it.. my other bnet is inactive atm

[Xixillia]

I received an invitation to alpha, but it isn't showing up in my launcher :(

NM - bnet launcher just updated and there it is! Excited!

[Andreauk]

I'm also in now. Aff lock felt quite weak to me especially aoe.. but BM Hunters and Unholy DK's I am in love with. Not really keen on Balance Druids.
I also really enjoy the Demon Hunter.. but can't progress atm as there is a bug with the questchain :(

Gnome Hunters are every bit as awesome as I thought they would be :D

[ebony]

I'm also in now. Aff lock felt quite weak to me especially aoe.. but BM Hunters and Unholy DK's I am in love with. Not really keen on Balance Druids.
I also really enjoy the Demon Hunter.. but can't progress atm as there is a bug with the questchain :(

Gnome Hunters are every bit as awesome as I thought they would be :D

Warlocks are under turned did you try demo?? I love them

[Andreauk]

I haven't tried Demo because I had my heart set on Aff.

I have been playing a mistweaver monk and love it. The starter scenario was a pain, but after that questing is a breeze. Np with silver elites or quest mobs/bosses so far. Yet to try dungeons.. will do once levelled up a bit more.

Edit - Tried Demo and wow that is a lot of fun... same with Fury Warrior and Ret pally.
Not sure about boxing anything though from what I have seen.. think I will be playing solo in the new expac... especially with the artifact weapon hassle.

[Kayley]

All I've done was double jump and dash around the place over and over.

I want a million demon hunters. *nods*

[Andreauk]

The bugs are sooo frustrating.. my demon hunter was stuck for over a week, my mage can't finish her quest... arghh lol I totally love fury warrior though.. they feel so much better now with the second wind talent.. and it's not squishy like I thought it would be.

[MadMilitia]

I did a little alpha but yeah the bugs really got to me. Quests getting stuck, constantly relogging and still stuck, etc.

[Kayley]

Storm's reach.. is follow enabled? :P

[MiRai]

Storm's reach.. is follow enabled? :P
Is this a zone? A sub-zone of another zone? I don't know where (or what) Storm's Reach is...

[ebony]

Storm's reach.. is follow enabled? :P


Is this a zone? A sub-zone of another zone? I don't know where (or what) Storm's Reach is...

ya as MiRai said all i can see this being a normal zone but now with that name... but av not seen follow axed anywhere other then whats on live.

or though i would not get hopes up if its working somewhere and then it changes like ashran did.

edited main topic with some more info about mob tapping.

[ebony]

So i been boxing beta today i updated some stuff on main post

here is the video off what i did on 3 warlocks i have to say the AoE on this group is all round crazy

https://www.twitch.tv/ebonyfaye/v/66088278

the class hall opening quests seem a bit random on if they let you do them as a group. But even so i think they was a lot easier then WoD garrisons stuff

[Andreauk]

The locks look really good.. as my baby is due in 6 weeks I am only gonna 2 box locks (and play my other toons solo).. they are currently Destro.. I was toying with the idea of switching to Demo in Legion.. but I worried that all that pet management would be a headache.
I play them with each spell on the bar for each lock the same.. I don't use any macro in Isboxer. Would you say Destro will be easier to manage my way than Demo? Does Destro still have good survivability?

I think Warlocks have taken the spot in my heart Hunters used to have :)

btw how do I get my burning embers to show in Jamba? Enabling combo points doesn't work for me.

[ebony]

The locks look really good.. as my baby is due in 6 weeks I am only gonna 2 box locks (and play my other toons solo).. they are currently Destro.. I was toying with the idea of switching to Demo in Legion.. but I worried that all that pet management would be a headache.
I play them with each spell on the bar for each lock the same.. I don't use any macro in Isboxer. Would you say Destro will be easier to manage my way than Demo?


oh gz on your baby :) i not tried boxing demo yet in but there is a lot of buffing casting its a bit of a pain i will try it though (going though all the class hall stuff is going to be a pain so might end up waiting untill pemades to skip it). i do really kinda like the spec the the aoe in desto is unreal atm got access to so many spells.



Does Destro still have good survivability?


Atm we called raid bosses :D by a lot of players (i don't think we are deathkights warriors self healing are unreal) we have the shiled with a talent that buffs it that is a good % then the pet shield and the other shield desto has drain life in legion



I think Warlocks have taken the spot in my heart Hunters used to have :)


never liked hunters but there dps is unreal. i like seeing warlocks spells thats what sells it for me (and i like some of the tools warlocks has) hunters are ok but very boring to look at. Who can not like 10 CB's flying around!



btw how do I get my burning embers to show in Jamba? Enabling combo points doesn't work for me.



well if you watch my beta they was infarct soul shards :) all 3 warlocks specs have them now in legion.

The Alpha for 4.3 will show them where the old combo points are on the live version.


To be fair i love them on beta more then live.

Cats are to much of a pain to play atm they get one shot in any kinda aoe, there healing is just all out useless.

pala are looking really good though as well so ill be trying them at somepoint.

[Andreauk]

Thanks for the info ebony! I think I will stick to Destro - plus I like having a staff :)

[ebony]

Thanks for the info ebony! I think I will stick to Destro - plus I like having a staff :)

true but a head is kinda cool so am going to dual spec demo :)

[davidmage]

I seem to have access to the Beta. But as I understand it's only 1 account. Looking at battle.net I see 1 "Beta: Legion" under the In Development section. So currently my gf is jumping/flying around on a brand new Demon Hunter, I'll have to settle with my 5 normal accounts :P

[ebony]

I seem to have access to the Beta. But as I understand it's only 1 account. Looking at battle.net I see 1 "Beta: Legion" under the In Development section. So currently my gf is jumping/flying around on a brand new Demon Hunter, I'll have to settle with my 5 normal accounts :P

Ya olny one beta per b.net am using muplie b.nets why am boxing 3 not 5

[thebucket]

Ebony, are you using ISBoxer to box the beta?

[MiRai]

Ebony, are you using ISBoxer to box the beta?
She is.

[thebucket]

Thanks, MiRai!

I've been trying to dual box the beta with ISBoxer but I'm having trouble with window/character swapping. I was wondering if other people were using ISBoxer successfully with the beta. I'd appreciate any configuration advice for the beta that anyone has.

[ebony]

Thanks, MiRai!

I've been trying to dual box the beta with ISBoxer but I'm having trouble with window/character swapping. I was wondering if other people were using ISBoxer successfully with the beta. I'd appreciate any configuration advice for the beta that anyone has.

Works fine out the box did not use any changes and useing my defulat profile.

[thebucket]

I got it working! I realized that the Legion windows were set to fullscreen and so swapping wouldn't work. Changing to Windowed fixed everything.

Edit - I noticed a Jamba bug using the Jamba Legion build. I get several stray drop down boxes in the center of my screen. These drop downs appear on both characters. They clear out when I select the Jamba tab that they belong to.
The tabs I noticed this happen are: Core:Tags, Toon -> Currency, and Advanced -> Core:Message Display. There may have been more but I may not have been able to see them. The only addons I have right now are Jamba and ISBoxer.

[ebony]

I got it working! I realized that the Legion windows were set to fullscreen and so swapping wouldn't work. Changing to Windowed fixed everything.

Edit - I noticed a Jamba bug using the Jamba Legion build. I get several stray drop down boxes in the center of my screen. These drop downs appear on both characters. They clear out when I select the Jamba tab that they belong to.
The tabs I noticed this happen are: Core:Tags, Toon -> Currency, and Advanced -> Core:Message Display. There may have been more but I may not have been able to see them. The only addons I have right now are Jamba and ISBoxer.


well i could not even get them to clear so good on you. unfortunate that part of the addon is not mine and is done by ace3? so am waiting on them to fix it update it.

unless i hotfix it to remove them box's untill a fix gets added am not sure so far i been playing with them just in the way.

[ebony]

Edit - I noticed a Jamba bug using the Jamba Legion build. I get several stray drop down boxes in the center of my screen. These drop downs appear on both characters. They clear out when I select the Jamba tab that they belong to.
The tabs I noticed this happen are: Core:Tags, Toon -> Currency, and Advanced -> Core:Message Display. There may have been more but I may not have been able to see them. The only addons I have right now are Jamba and ISBoxer.


Just did a temp fix to never make them bars for now it started doing my head in its a addon i hope he updates it for legion or am going to have to find a way to fix it! anyway



https://www.twitch.tv/ebonyfaye/v/67282364

I played some Demon Hunters though the stating zone today to see if we could box with them i think it went ok i did not really do any Marcos and used my melee setup on them.

felrush and follow seems ok (might need to turn off follow broken or i might add some DM code to stop it doing that) )

double jump and the glider did not go so well but am sure there would be a better way to setup key maps for it maybe

[ebony]

Some Prof Stuff i found out there is a LOT of quests to do. so it might be better to all have the same prof on all your groups? am trying on beta and even will a skill 1 they seems to skill up kinda fast (catch-up) i can still mine all the Legion nodes. and get real ore and not shards.

and yes other chars can mine them at the same time!

http://i.imgur.com/gQ9RSj1.jpg

[Pazgaz]

This will be insane for boxers.
My druids are miners/herbalists (changed for legion). I plan on doing a lot of gathering on them :)

Can you please test if this change affects old content nodes as well?

[davidmage]

This looks promising indeed - hope it stays that way.
Think this applies to skinning aswell? I was thinking of syncing atleast 1 profession across all my 5 hunters. That would be so much better if all characters can skin the same mob.
About the item which supposedly is the replacement for WoD Felbllight - it looks like it's BoP? In that case I may want to make all have LW as second prof, so all of those items can be used towards crafting.

[ebony]

This will be insane for boxers.
My druids are miners/herbalists (changed for legion). I plan on doing a lot of gathering on them :)

Can you please test if this change affects old content nodes as well?

I can confirm it works on older game Nodes (well worked in Mop And normal level 1 stuff. Copper :D

The nodes in the old world seems to last about 20/25 sec before the despawn you can mine them at at the same time with other chars before this time goes.


Edit Herbing works the same.


Skining does not seem to work :( and the mob still despawns after its been skined. (in old zones anyway)

[Andreauk]

Is Blood of Sargeras still bop? Shame they changed it :(

I'm going to have to think carefully about proffs now.

[Andreauk]

I got this macro to work for Destro on beta today.. must have talents are fire and brimstone & soul conduit - had plenty of shards.. I don't feel rain of fire is even worth bothering with, with it's high 3 ss cost.


#showtooltip
/targetenemy [noharm][dead]
/castsequence [nochanneling] reset=target/10 immolate,Incinerate,Incinerate,Incinerate,Incinera te,Immolate
/castsequence [nochanneling]reset=.03 conflagrate,chaos bolt
/petattack

[ebony]

I got this macro to work for Destro on beta today.. must have talents are fire and brimstone & soul conduit - had plenty of shards.. I don't feel rain of fire is even worth bothering with, with it's high 3 ss cost.


#showtooltip
/targetenemy [noharm][dead]
/castsequence [nochanneling] reset=target/10 immolate,Incinerate,Incinerate,Incinerate,Incinera te,Immolate
/castsequence [nochanneling]reset=.03 conflagrate,chaos bolt
/petattack


i really like fire and brimstone its a shame it got moved from 15 to 60 (with cooldown spells) and its really really good :D.

i did use soul conduit and well i like havoc buff better No CD and i have it on my focus and spam that target.

Is you marcio for the pepatch? for llegion you want to add in the artifact spell (that is a ins cast now 3 charges of a portal that has a chaos bolt)

rain of fire is better when you get the artifact talnts every 10mins you get a Army of infernals (kinda fun) and i find is a lot better then live and atleast its not a challenging spells like it was on a few builds ago, or though it does have a cast time that feels kinda bad for the x3 cost i think x2 or eve x1 cost would be better.
Atm on live its inscast more or less free (great for getting rouges off your ass)

[Andreauk]

I was thinking of keeping the artifact ability on it's own button :)

I made/used it on Legion beta the other day, and my talent choices were because of the crazy shard regen.

[beeq]

Those recently added rep-based shoulder enchants (http://legion.wowhead.com/item=140219/boon-of-the-bloodhunter) look very promising :drool:
Party-wise; I'm only annoyed that there's six of them, and not five, but I might end up using the most valuable one on all toons anyway :)



Is Blood of Sargeras still bop? Shame they changed it http://www.dual-boxing.com//images/smilies/frown.png

I'm going to have to think carefully about proffs now.

Blood of Sargeras (http://legion.wowhead.com/item=124124/blood-of-sargeras) might be BoP for a long time, so having a toon with two gathering professions might not be the good idea

[Andreauk]

So Ebony (and anyone else), what are you maining next expac as your main team? I'm so weak - for me it was going to be 2 Locks but that somehow turned into 5!

I have lost interest in mixed teams with the artifact/class hall stuff.

Had a lot of fun boxing Monks on live, but not sure how Windwalkers are on beta.. going into hospital to have the baby this Wed, so not had time to test.

[ebony]

Am maining 5 demo/desto locks. Its kinda easy to setup 2 artifacts now one quests now give you items use and not just the artifact xp.

The healing demo has is just unreal! And the brust is better then desto i like brusting more then just spaming shadowbrun.....

But its free to change spec so ill change like da wind!

Demo lock pets can easy tank trash in dungons with 3. Its a shame dungons lvl with u so not sure how that will play.

Ill probs be doing ehna shamys as well. Or deathkights as my back team

[Andreauk]

Sounds fun! My locks will be Destro/Demo (Goblins) also.. but I will do Destro artifact first.

[ebony]

Sounds fun! My locks will be Destro/Demo (Goblins) also.. but I will do Destro artifact first.

mine are goblins! level 102 u get to do the artifact quest again. to get your 2nd wep!

[ebony]

Guild Res got removed at some point as well.

[beeq]

Hi friends - I just wanted to chime in that in the next beta build you should see more Blood of Sargeras dropping from non-tradeskill sources (dungeons, in particular). (source (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20743964229?page=4#75))

Gladly there's a lot of time to choose whether to roll professions or not, and the subjects tend to change a lot daily basis.. :P

[Multiboxdan]

I've been on the Legion Beta for almost a month now, and it's been enjoyable (bugs and crashes not withstanding). But I'm taking a break right now because even on there, people in random groups are behaving stupidly (not everyone, but a majority).

This is why I'm considering multi-boxing once more. If I can manage my own group of 10 characters, that'd be a welcome change from having to depend on X other players, half of which may or may not be incompetent.

[Andreauk]

I don't think I could ever play wow solo again, too many idiots.. if they ever banned multiboxing I'd quit and return to my cosy console gaming.

[JohnGabriel]

Maybe its been like this awhile, but we can use our level 100 boosts on any account attached to our bnet account. I seem to remember having to use them on the account I upgraded, but now I have 4 level 100 boosts I can use from any account.


World of Warcraft®: Legion includes a Character Boost that levels any character on your Battle.net account to level 100.

The profession is new as well, the character I boosted when I prepurchased the collector's edition has no professions.

If the character is at least level 60 before the boost, their primary professions and First Aid will be leveled up to rank 700. If they don't have primary professions, they are given class-appropriate professions according to the table on the right.

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/7623

[kalos72]

My boost didnt get any professions either...

[ebony]

Mine did the chars was 60. And got mining/engi on all 5!!

[ebony]

ok found one more of the world pvp zones today this is a FFA zone.... the mobs was 110 unlike some of the "towers"

Works as a party (unsure about raid)
http://i.imgur.com/qMvfjpG.jpg

Players
http://i.imgur.com/yXFvmnf.jpg

And char out of party to show its FFA

http://i.imgur.com/tB8Vc4p.jpg

and before u ask....

http://i.imgur.com/z4hhcH3.jpg

somehow its working as well when your out of party...... and targeted for pvp :S (bug maybe)

[Xixillia]

To those of you that have played on beta more than I have - have we moved away from proc based rotations, or is it still the same rando button mash game it is now?

[Wubsie]

To those of you that have played on beta more than I have - have we moved away from proc based rotations, or is it still the same rando button mash game it is now?

Some classes have been simplified even further from their previous states. For example BM hunter no longer requires tracking Frenzy stacks and it's just a flat, boring DPS cooldown. The emphasis seems to be even further shifting from micromanaging your characters output to dealing with encounter mechanics (movement, adds, etc) as has been the trend for a while now. Personally I'm not a fan of this change to a more MOBA feel, but meh.

The specs known for being proc heavy, still are from what I tested. Fire mage and, Ele Shammy, Frost DK come to mind, although on DK you can often just ignore the procs and do "fine".

[Kruschpakx4]

To those of you that have played on beta more than I have - have we moved away from proc based rotations, or is it still the same rando button mash game it is now?

as for enhance you just need a dps button that prioritises stormstrike>boulderfist>flame tongue, everything else got pruned have fun playing that an entire expansion

I played about 3 weeks beta now and I'm so bored of enhancement gameplay its unbelievable. We lost about everything that required some "think before you use it", so I doubt its enjoyable for too long

On that regard ret paladins are more satisifying to play