Blizzcon News Leaking Early - Spoilers inside

[Svpernova09]

Legion Preorders will get early access to Demon Hunter Class and a level 100 boost.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/3rpe21/legion_battlenet_background_image_leak/

Legion is expected to release on or before 09/21/2016. This is not a release date


Overwatch preorder $40 (PC, Xbox One, PS4)

http://blizzardwatch.com/2015/11/05/overwatch-origins-edition-40-preorder-offer-console-availability-confirmed

[ebony]

its a shame the WoD Unrelease date (coming by then) was dam close to the date it came out.

[Fat Tire]

Legion Preorders will get early access to Demon Hunter Class and a level 100 boost.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/3rpe21/legion_battlenet_background_image_leak/

Legion is expected to release on or before 09/21/2016. This is not a release date



pic in link is broken. but here is image
1566 (http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/november/legionPerks.jpg)

http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/november/legionPerks.jpg

I lol'd at the fine print

[JohnGabriel]

Preorder and we get to play Demon Hunter 7 days before legion is released. That sounds like good fine print. Unimpressed with the mount, but like the wings on the armor.

[zenga]

its a shame the WoD Unrelease date (coming by then) was dam close to the date it came out.
About 2 months early. Legacy of the Void will be 4 months early.

Oh dear dual-boxing.com, the only wow site I read where most people have common sense. It's incredible to read all the news items on mmo-ish sites with a devious title while they are well aware it's not the release date (it's even stated on the legion site: 'this is not a release date'). And of course social media and forums jump on the band wagon.

[Andreauk]

It's a long time without new content :(

[Lyonheart]

I hope this is per account and not bnet resrtiction!


You will need a level 70 character to create a Demon Hunter and you can only have one Demon Hunter per realm.

[Lyonheart]

It's a long time without new content :(

I was thinking the same thing..that's 10 months from now! They are going to be down millions more if they wait that long. WoD had 10mil at the start and is down to 5ish mil now.

Sorry for the double post

[Fat Tire]

Well they had to put out a release date so they could start pre order sales to all the lemmings. They also used the word "expected" which means it could come after this date as well.

Tin foil hat time: They are judging early pre order sales in deciding whether to go ftp. A far out date would give plenty of time to convert game to ftp. No one will know sub numbers going forward now anyways.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/blizzard-will-no-longer-report-world-of-warcraft-s/1100-6431943/

[Vecter]

I would be surprised if it didn't release before June, they have dug themselves into such a hole with content drought and promise of faster expansions. If release is 6-10 months out what are they going to fill it with that is worthwhile? Perhaps Overwatch?

Join us in mumble chat during blizzcon and ham it up with us!

[MiRai]

Legion is expected to release on or before 09/21/2016. This is not a release date
This is the exact same type of "technical date" which we saw with Warlords of Draenor. Did everyone forget about that?

When pre-orders for Warlords of Draenor started in March 2014, the pre-order page said on or before 12/20/2014 (http://wowweekly.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Pre-order-US-Shop.png). People flipped their shit because they didn't understand that it wasn't an actual release date, and Ion Hazzikostas told everyone the reason for the date (https://twitter.com/WatcherDev/statuses/443076799426093056). Now that we're seeing another "on or before" release date, I think it's pretty safe to assume that the date selected has some sort of technical reasoning behind it, which is exactly why they state that it is not a release date.

[Lyonheart]

All i know is, after watching the WoW:L panel, I'm excited, I didn't think I would be! The open world approach of leveling in the zones in whatever order you want, is a nice change! The new challenge mode dungons sound fantastic..etc.. lots to look forward to this time!

[MiRai]

Well, it seems like there are a handful of new changes/additions coming to Legion that sound good. We'll see what makes it to release.

For those who missed it: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/5251-World-of-Warcraft-Legion-World-and-Content-Overview

[Starbuck_Jones]

This is the exact same type of "technical date" which we saw with Warlords of Draenor. Did everyone forget about that?

When pre-orders for Warlords of Draenor started in March 2014, the pre-order page said on or before 12/20/2014 (http://wowweekly.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Pre-order-US-Shop.png). People flipped their shit because they didn't understand that it wasn't an actual release date, and Ion Hazzikostas told everyone the reason for the date (https://twitter.com/WatcherDev/statuses/443076799426093056). Now that we're seeing another "on or before" release date, I think it's pretty safe to assume that the date selected has some sort of technical reasoning behind it, which is exactly why they state that it is not a release date.

They had this reaction on WoD. One would think that the department didn't get the memo about not releasing subscription numbers anymore due to bad press also meant not putting dates on pictures either.

[MiRai]

They had this reaction on WoD. One would think that the department didn't get the memo about not releasing subscription numbers anymore due to bad press also meant not putting dates on pictures either.
I agree that it's odd that they keep putting those dates out there, but there must be some sort of legal reason behind it because they also did it for Overwatch, so... /shrug

[MiRai]

Watching the systems panel at the moment, and Demon Hunters are looking like they're going to be ridiculous (both solo and multiboxing).

[Andreauk]

Watching the systems panel at the moment, and Demon Hunters are looking like they're going to be ridiculous (both solo and multiboxing).

the nerfhammer will come for them - eventually

[Syferr]

They just said that its character specific mining and herb nodes so people cant ninja your node. Multiboxing herbing and mining inc lol

[MiRai]

the nerfhammer will come for them - eventually
There will be a lot of hype around them being OP, but like the Death Knights in Wrath, they will have to receive some sort of nerf... they sound like they're going to be totally OP.


They just said that its character specific mining and herb nodes so people cant ninja your node. Multiboxing herbing and mining inc lol
Yes!

In addition, lots of QoL changes like transmog and profession stuff. It all seems very exciting, and the crowd was going crazy during this panel. MMO-C will have the full breakdown of the panel up shortly, I'm sure.

[Lyonheart]

Time to level up my priests! disc priests will be all about healing with damage ( more so than now ). Looking forward to the class blogs they said are coming tomorrow.

[MiRai]

Time to level up my priests! disc priests will be all about healing with damage ( more so than now ). Looking forward to the class blogs they said are coming tomorrow.
Totally forgot about all the class changes they briefly talked about.

Just to recap for some people, they're looking at getting rid of stacking buffs for DPS increases and what not, so something like now, how we need several stacks of Arcane Power to do more DPS as an Arcane Mage, is going away. it sounds like we'll be able to more efficiently create DPS rotations through normal macros and fall-through systems than we have in the prior two expansions.

Also, this just came out:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/19954576/world-of-warcraft-game-systems-panel-11-7-2015

[Xixillia]

I'm kind of excited that hunters are getting a melee spec...that should be a huge QoL buff due to IWT facing. Once I finish my demon hunter team I'll go back to hunters - and then disc priests for LFR again.

That is... if my boss lets me play again. :P

[Andreauk]

"Professions are also getting an overhaul in Legion, from recipe acquisition to recipe ranks to the introduction of Obliterum, a new demonic ash that you’ll use to enhance your items. In Legion, you’ll craft at your own pace and crafted gear will be special because it will often have on-use or on-equip bonuses that cannot be found on gear dropped anywhere else in the game".

I haven't taken profs yet on my main team.. I'm wondering if the crafted gear will be bound to the creator or not? If so then I will need 4 Leatherworkers urgh!

I think I will have gathering alts too rather than on the mains.

[ebony]

This is the exact same type of "technical date" which we saw with Warlords of Draenor. Did everyone forget about that?

When pre-orders for Warlords of Draenor started in March 2014, the pre-order page said on or before 12/20/2014 (http://wowweekly.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Pre-order-US-Shop.png). People flipped their shit because they didn't understand that it wasn't an actual release date, and Ion Hazzikostas told everyone the reason for the date (https://twitter.com/WatcherDev/statuses/443076799426093056). Now that we're seeing another "on or before" release date, I think it's pretty safe to assume that the date selected has some sort of technical reasoning behind it, which is exactly why they state that it is not a release date.


I read somewhere that east (i think china etc.) seems to be getting it later and this date is the last date it come out by world wide anyway they said summer from what i seen so far from zones they seem a lot more far into the game then last years blizzcon when they talked about WoD (time before?).

I think if i rember right the garrison had no in-game stuff. and half way into beta it was still broken so it be good to say now it goes down to how long to get beta out. will give us a time frame but i can see the pepatch in may and xpac at the start of june more then likey. that gives us 5 months of beta. that is about right.

so far its a information overload and i can not wait to get my hands on beta to try the stuff out.

[ebony]

I think I will have gathering alts too rather than on the mains.

ya all miners or all herb are going to be crazy as a boxer. mineing the same node on all your chars ore but i hope it don't go down to much on the ah like it is in wod becouse it was easy to get.

i normally got ehn/engi on my tream.

[Andreauk]

ya all miners or all herb are going to be crazy as a boxer. mineing the same node on all your chars ore but i hope it don't go down to much on the ah like it is in wod becouse it was easy to get.

i normally got ehn/engi on my tream.

I think that they will just make stuff need a lot more mats than they currently do.

[Lyonheart]

ya all miners or all herb are going to be crazy as a boxer. mineing the same node on all your chars ore but i hope it don't go down to much on the ah like it is in wod becouse it was easy to get.

i normally got ehn/engi on my tream.

I will have to level gathering up again, i got rid of it since you don't need it in WoD. Ill prob level up a team of druids and have them do mining and herbs! I have one druid like that now.

SO, as far as leveling, im going to guess that the class quests have a lot of solo instancing, kind of like SWtoR. I wonder if the same class can do the quests together, even the instanced parts. I hope so. Ill just level teams of the same class if so.

This has me a little concerned ..Ele might not be as simple to box as they are now..im hoping it will be more of a plus than a negative though..we will have to see.>>>
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Shamans have mana, but it doesn't do anything for them. Mana is gone unless you are a Restoration Shaman! It has been replaced with a new resource called Maelstrom. It is built up through using abilities and then used on certain abilities. It is somewhat similar to the Demon Hunter resource but themed for Shamans and what they do.

[Lyonheart]

Ok.. i have wanted, really bad, to box moonkins.. but that damn Eclipse mechanic just makes it hard to master them boxed..this is some great news>>>

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Resto and Feral druids got minor changes.
Moonkin is inspired by the current state of the spec, but is now a brand new spec.
The current spec is based on a cycle of moving a bar back and forth on your UI. You are spending your time playing with the UI rather than the game.
The moving back and forth on the bar is going away, replaced with abilities that build and spend a resource with different strengths and weaknesses.
It should still hit the main Moonkin fantasy, as it is still heavy on DoTs, still has Moonfire, Sunfire, Starfall, and all of the unique Moonkin things.
Innervate is returning, but not to Resto Druids. If they had it, they would want to use it on themselves, which isn't very interesting.
Innervate is coming back to Balance Druids as their specific utility, so they won't have Stampeding Roar anymore. S
tampeding Roar will be for Feral and Guardian only.
A powerful single target version of Mark of the Wild is coming back for the Resto Druid cooldown.
Rejuvenation in Cat Form is going away.
Predatory Swiftness is staying.
Feral isn't seeing a ton of changes, but they are getting lots of new talents.
The base Druid has less skills from the other three roles, but there is a new talent row that allows you to pick Balance, Feral, Guardian, or Restoration, and get a whole suite of abilities for that role and it makes you actually good at it. You get much more than the watered down version you had before and you get to pick which one you are good at instead of okay at all of them.
You could be a Guardian druid that switches to Cat form to do more damage when you aren't the active tank. You can also be a Moonkin, as if you take the Balance Affinity talent as Guardian, you get Moonkin form.

[MiRai]

This has me a little concerned ..Ele might not be as simple to box as they are now..im hoping it will be more of a plus than a negative though..we will have to see.>>>
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Shamans have mana, but it doesn't do anything for them. Mana is gone unless you are a Restoration Shaman! It has been replaced with a new resource called Maelstrom. It is built up through using abilities and then used on certain abilities. It is somewhat similar to the Demon Hunter resource but themed for Shamans and what they do.


During the DH presentation they said that their resource, Fury, is just like the Rage resource of a Warrior. Now they're saying that Maelstrom is "somewhat similar" to the resource of a DH, which means that Maelstrom will be like Rage, and to be honest, I love boxing Warriors since I find their Rage resource easy to deal with.

So, I guess it depends on how you play certain classes. Mana is clearly easier to deal with, but I don't find Rage all that difficult to deal with. We'll have to see how it plays out.

[Lyonheart]

So the lvl100 Boost.. it gives you a level 3 garrison! I might just preorder my 5 expansion sets now and use it to boost my druids. Or wait until some beta details come out..decisions! Hunters or druids?!

Level 100 Boost info (https://youtu.be/EffxidQnER0)

[Svpernova09]

The level 90 boost in the shop has been replaced with the level 100 boost. First time I've seen them let you pay for a max level character.

[Lyonheart]

yes!.. its cheaper to buy the expansion though..you get the expansion AND the boost for $10 less than a solo boost. I have a link to the info on boosts in my last post in this thread

[MiRai]

The level 90 boost in the shop has been replaced with the level 100 boost. First time I've seen them let you pay for a max level character.
They actually did the same thing at the end of MoP when they first offered the level 90 boost.

[Svpernova09]

They actually did the same thing at the end of MoP when they first offered the level 90 boost.

Ah yes, that's right.

[Andreauk]

So the lvl100 Boost.. it gives you a level 3 garrison! I might just preorder my 5 expansion sets now and use it to boost my druids. Or wait until some beta details come out..decisions! Hunters or druids?!

Level 100 Boost info (https://youtu.be/EffxidQnER0)

I rolled 5 boomkins today before I heard of the change.. but then wondered why I did.. I don't pvp and how far could I take them in pve?

I won't be upgrading/boosting until very close to release, as so much will chop and change before then.

[Andreauk]

Love the sound of this:

Demonology warlock update? Legendary demon like a Dreadlord?

Right now it's in an odd place, really off track. We restarted from scratch - for all intents and purposes it's a completely different class. Requires a lot of iteration and feedback!
No way to permanently enslave Dreadlords but we have talked about talents that may make your enslave last longer or be permanent. This is being considered but not currently on the list due to balance concerns.
Demonology in Legion is all about summoning waves and waves of demons, and buffing them.
http://wow.zamimg.com/images/wow/icons/tiny/spell_shadow_shadowbolt.gif Shadow Bolt (http://www.wowhead.com/spell=686) - generator, http://wow.zamimg.com/images/wow/icons/tiny/ability_warlock_handofguldan.gif Hand of Gul'dan (http://www.wowhead.com/spell=105174) - spender
http://wow.zamimg.com/images/wow/icons/tiny/ability_warlock_handofguldan.gif Hand of Gul'dan (http://www.wowhead.com/spell=105174) now summons imps. One imp for every Soul Shard, up to 5.
All locks are back to Soul Shards as a resource.
New demon - Dreadstalkers, introduced in Friday's panel.
New rotational ability that summons a pair of Dreadstalkers - sometimes being ridden by imps!
Demonic Empowerment - new ability, buff up demons out, mini bloodlust for demons
Summoning demons happens constantly in combat
Talents play off this too. Curse of Doom could summon an imp. When you summon Dreadstalkers, they can come with imps riding Dreadstalkers.


http://www.wowhead.com/news=249804/darkmoon-faire-community-amphitheatre-lore-systems-class-changes

[ebony]

So the lvl100 Boost.. it gives you a level 3 garrison! I might just preorder my 5 expansion sets now and use it to boost my druids. Or wait until some beta details come out..decisions! Hunters or druids?!

Level 100 Boost info (https://youtu.be/EffxidQnER0)


and if the char is 60+ then you get 700 prof as well and to 60 takes a few hours if that!


Ok.. i have wanted, really bad, to box moonkins.. but that damn Eclipse mechanic just makes it hard to master them boxed..this is some great news>>>

Druid (Forums (http://www.mmo-champion.com/forums/270-Druid) / Skills (http://www.wowdb.com/spells/class-abilities/druid) / Talent Calculator (http://www.wowdb.com/talent-calculator#s))


Resto and Feral druids got minor changes.
Moonkin is inspired by the current state of the spec, but is now a brand new spec.
The current spec is based on a cycle of moving a bar back and forth on your UI. You are spending your time playing with the UI rather than the game.
The moving back and forth on the bar is going away, replaced with abilities that build and spend a resource with different strengths and weaknesses.
It should still hit the main Moonkin fantasy, as it is still heavy on DoTs, still has Moonfire, Sunfire, Starfall, and all of the unique Moonkin things.
Innervate is returning, but not to Resto Druids. If they had it, they would want to use it on themselves, which isn't very interesting.
Innervate is coming back to Balance Druids as their specific utility, so they won't have Stampeding Roar anymore. S
tampeding Roar will be for Feral and Guardian only.
A powerful single target version of Mark of the Wild is coming back for the Resto Druid cooldown.
Rejuvenation in Cat Form is going away.
Predatory Swiftness is staying.
Feral isn't seeing a ton of changes, but they are getting lots of new talents.
The base Druid has less skills from the other three roles, but there is a new talent row that allows you to pick Balance, Feral, Guardian, or Restoration, and get a whole suite of abilities for that role and it makes you actually good at it. You get much more than the watered down version you had before and you get to pick which one you are good at instead of okay at all of them.
You could be a Guardian druid that switches to Cat form to do more damage when you aren't the active tank. You can also be a Moonkin, as if you take the Balance Affinity talent as Guardian, you get Moonkin form.



yep i love the sound of this as well but one thing i about cryed my eyes out is...



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Rejuvenation in Cat Form is going away.



this feels like when i lost chain heal on my shams

[Lyonheart]

and if the char is 60+ then you get 700 prof as well and to 60 takes a few hours if that!

I have not leveled a team from scratch in a long time..i have a team at 80 on another server..BUT it would save me a lot of money if i just leveled them to 60 on my current server. But a few hours? without RaF? How?

[Andreauk]

I have not leveled a team from scratch in a long time..i have a team at 80 on another server..BUT it would save me a lot of money if i just leveled them to 60 on my current server. But a few hours? without RaF? How?


I just dungeon spam it doesn't take long.. but that's if you can queue as tank, heals & dps even if you are all dps using dual spec.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

So the lvl100 Boost.. it gives you a level 3 garrison! I might just preorder my 5 expansion sets now and use it to boost my druids. Or wait until some beta details come out..decisions! Hunters or druids?!

Level 100 Boost info (https://youtu.be/EffxidQnER0)

Yeah, and it's worth pointing out that if you make sure you get professions on your boosted characters, you will get a free profession bump when you boost them. I ended up with several tailors and a few other things I didn't think about before creating my free 90s. I won't make that mistake again. ;)

[Svpernova09]

I spent nearly all Friday and Saturday watching the Starcraft finals, so I was still finishing the WoW panels and videos yesterday. I'm honestly really excited for this expansion. I haven't been this excited since Wrath or Cataclysm, the last two expansions that I really enjoyed.

Stuff I'm particularly excited about:

* Class changes (Disc Priest, Bear Tanking specifically)
* Demon Hunters look really really cool. (And lore is great)
* Wardrobe & Transmog. (What am I going to do with all this extra bag space!?)
* Artifact Weapons that grow in power over time.

[luxlunae]

I'm happy about priests as well. They are dumping chakras (thank god) for holy and going to have another crack at a real atonement playstyle. I loved the initial fistweaving monk and cata atonement so I'm excited!