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Devile
10-20-2015, 04:17 PM
Static Charge monk took over the speedfarming scene quite fast after that chinese monk beat GR70+ with suboptimal gear. Since then there has been a ton of theorycrafting and the meta has changed to SC monks. The nice thing about this is that supports now can actually do a lot of damage by proccing Static Charge. I'm not playing that much the game cause of real life responsibilities and issues with my ISP, but on my spare time I've been thinking on a multiboxing spec based on SC for speedfarming.
It's a work in progress and it needs testing, but the idea is to use it for 60+ speedfarming or even 70+ if u are Paragon 1000+. It's based on just 1 DPS and 3 supports. There are several skills I'm not sure yet, but it might come handy to some of u:
SC Monk
It's a hybrid build since Raiment 4 piece is kinda useless cause we can't dash on a mixed party without dsyncs. Using Cyclone Strike to proc F&R (it procs right???) and get some CC, and Uliana's 2 piece to spread Exploding Palm easily. Yeah I know a Sunwuko is far better for EP but I had free slots and EP is prolly the best. Besides the party won't use an EP monk, so why not have a hybrid and just spread EP with the generator skill? It's free DPS and applies by itself :)
http://www.d3planner.com/753261985
Support Generator Heal Monk
The new heal monk based on Istvan's set using WotHF FoF to proc Static Charge from the SC monk. Some exp gear to boost the party.
http://www.d3planner.com/928280072
Support Crusader
Basically a Condemn Crusader to proc more Static Charge. Reciprocate rune has a very nice proc coeficient and should work very good. We don't want extremely high procs or it will literally freeze the server. Judgement Resolved with Sacred Harness belt should add a nice 40% damage reduced debuff. Laws of Valor is debatable, it could be Laws of Hope Wings of Angel. Shield Glare also debatable, could be something else (Provoke maybe?). More exp gear here.
http://www.d3planner.com/720575702
Support Barb
This is the only one I didn't know how to make it to proc Static Charge so it's basically a zDPS barb without WW. It's there just for the buffs/debuffs. I know WotB Slaughter procs a lot but it kinda breaks the server and u die from lag. It's a matter of testing I guess, but if it doesnt work, then I guess this is it. Some more exp too, why not.
http://www.d3planner.com/793251064
I've considered some party buffs in all profiles, thats why toughness is pretty high on each char. Only the buffs that will be up 100% of the time or while moving. Useful to have an idea of how much toughness u will have. Things like Inner Sanctuary should boost your toughness by a lot more.
There are more ways to squeeze higher procs but I think this is a good starting point since lag will be the main problem here. Too many procs and u will lag to death. Too few and u will miss DPS. Also made it so skills can easily overlap in this mixed party without much work. Making it work should be fairly straight forward.
Anyway, let me know what u think. The forum is not moving much lately anyway :P
This looks like so much fun! Id love to try it out but all my accounts are at 530ish P. I look forward to hearing how it goes and eventually try it out.
Mamut
10-24-2015, 02:25 PM
This comp took top spot for 4 man NA today.
I have had so little playtime but i was toying with something similar last week.
My SC monk was little changed from what you posted, my barb is more of a zDPS hota variant. The heal monk I'm running i squeezed in 2p raiment for the increased speed to generators while i search for a pair of Istvans.
I haven't had time to try the crusader yet. I think it will be better than the HoTa barb or Dart Dr i have been running in that slot. I really like BBV but the sader will proc as much or more, and bring either LoH-WoA or LoV-Crit and more bonus XP gear.
Not having WotHF-FoF on the SC monk doesn't seem to be a problem, the others seem to proc more than enough for efficient trash clears. Not sure about the RG till i actually gear up a sader, atm my 1 dart DR helps melt RG in decent times but i think my trash clear will be better once i get a sader going.
EDIT: The zDPS hota barb is smashing really fast with a pair of istvans/BoFM/cubed GoJ, i couldn't think of a better skill to proc SC with.
Devile
10-26-2015, 11:07 AM
Did a few low 60s on my first try, but kinda hard to play lately cause I'm still having issues with my Internet connection and it's very frustrating to lose bounties/GR keys because of frequent random disconnects. After I fix this I'll play more, push 70s and upload some videos.
The build works pretty good, tho I made some changes to it (HotA barb). 0 lag so far so I think I can squeeze a few more procs here and there. I may switch Laws of Valor Critical to Laws of Hope Wings of Angels since it's so hard to move around without dsyncs and melees really need to be in sync or they will hit nothing and they won't proc Static Charge. Survivability doesnt seem to be a problem but DPS is on the low side. Sometimes I melt elites, sometimes it takes quite a while and I think it's because only my main is hitting targets and the rest of the party is not. Wings of Angel should help with that.
Devile
10-28-2015, 11:10 AM
Wings of Angel was definitely the way to go. I lost some DPS but being able to just rush thru trash that gives no progress or skipping annoying elites, made me jump to GR66 fairly easy. RG is a problem for me since I'm playing non season and the lack of Bane of the Stricken increases the RG fight by a LOT. My gems are below 60 and I'm not even paragon 900 but i think I'm doing ok. Paragon 1100+ and 70+ gems and I should be able to do GR70+.
sriman
10-28-2015, 11:23 AM
Devlie,
Thanks for trying to figure out right group comp for multibox farming. Is it possible for you to share d3planner links of 4 characters?
Thanks
Devile
10-28-2015, 12:36 PM
You can find the d3planner links in the first post of this thread. I've been updating each char accordingly. My chars are here:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Devile-1430/hero/57636972
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Brikinger-1856/hero/57636971
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/TRES-1497/hero/47389262
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FOUR-1713/hero/41308824
U will notice there are some differences because I don't have all the items, specially hellfire rings/amulets. I'm kinda lazy :) d3planner is what I'm aiming for.
PS: Made some minor changes and GR67 went down easy. RG fight still remains as the only problem. Just pushing a little bit to see how far can I go with my current setup and level up a little bit my gems. Will start recording exp/hr to see whats the best exp for my party. Prolly high 50s because of the RG, but once I have access to Bane of the Stricken, I'm sure high 60s will be an option. Fixed my internet issues so now I can play more :)
Devile
11-01-2015, 01:18 PM
Did a quick change to my build and doing much better now. GR79 went down with 1min left.
http://i.imgur.com/7TKrFAt.jpg
Since I'm not playing Seasons, RG is a complete pain in the butt. Most RGs take more than 5mins to kill with IAS gear on the monk, so going no IAS and more damage is a better choice. I switched to The Furnace in Cube instead of Flying Dragon and also I'm using 2 generators on my monk to proc it more. The trick here is lag. Once u notice u are lagging, that means your party is hitting the max procs the server can handle so u should go to more damage instead of more IAS/procs. If u dont see any signs of lag, then u need to work on your setup cause u are not squeezing all the damage your Static Charge can achieve.
Not having a second generator on the SC monk was a bad idea since I wasn't procing enough. I never felt any lag whatsoever. When I started using SC + WotHF FoF and full IAS I noticed a clear increase in DPS but the server started to lag like crazy. Switched to less IAS, cubed Furnace and WotHF Assimilation and reduced the lag but the DPS was still there. Elites melt with high density and the RG takes considerably less time.
GR69 went down at first try, prolly luck cause there was good density and mob types. GR70 is taking time cause I'm getting crap mobs and horrible RGs that move all over the map :/ Completely doable but will require some fishing.
Not bad for my paragon level and 60 gems.
PS: Got GR70 after a few tries. Silver Spire did the job.
http://i.imgur.com/akDEK8v.jpg
I'll keep pushing a little bit with this build but eventually I'll try with 2 Carnevil WDs for more dps, tho the lack of the Crusader may be a huge problem. Crusader makes it so easy to move around the map.
Samefudge
11-02-2015, 04:40 PM
Devile,
Nice job! I am about to start this party myself. I have 70's of all toons on 4 accounts, and tons of gear, so I am confident I can do this and even throw in WD's at some point too.
How do you map your abilities? Are you using straight 1-for-1 on all 4, or do you have some round robins going? That is always the toughest part for me.
Devile
11-02-2015, 05:59 PM
Sadly, not a straight 1 to 4 setup, its a bit complex so its easier to multibox. Basically I've created keys for every skill for each character. They can share the same hotkey in some cases depending on the functionality. For example:
1 = Static Charge on SC monk and mouse1 for the other 3 chars
2 = Breath of Heaven on SC monk + Blinding Flash on heal monk + Condemn on Crusader + Sprint (3s)
3 = Inner Sanctuary on heal monk + Shield Glare on Crusader
4 = Judgement on Crusader (it messes up Cyclone Strike so u wanna have all mobs pulled before using this)
5 = Laws of Hope on Crusader (10s) + Mantra of Healing (0.7s) on heal monk + Ignore Pain on Barb (11s)
6 = WarCry (10s)
7 = Threatening Shout (3s)
I try to use more keys because when u use the same hotkey for 2 or more skills on the same char, sometimes u dont cast the skill. Not a problem when its a low cooldown skill that u can spam, but when it's a timed buff/debuff that u rely on, u can easily die. For example Ignore Pain which I have every 11 secs. If I share it with WarCry or Sprint hotkey and eventually I send it both at the same time, I may miss Ignore Pain, since I have it on trigger once and run the risk of having 11 secs of Ignore Pain downtime which will most likely get me killed. I don't see this when each skill has its own hotkey. Of course I'm not mashing all 7 buttons. My mouse takes care of 2567 and I just focus on 134, right/left clicks.
Since SC monk needs certain rotation when u use 2 generators, it makes it a little bit difficult to make keys work and not lose your F&R buff. My rotation is:
1. Cyclone Strike to pull everything really close and proc F&R on SC charge monk.
2. Inner Sanctuary + Shield Glare + Judgement
3. Main attack to get Assimilation stacks (only 3 hits needed).
4. Static Charge on different mobs to spread the debuff
5. Main attack to proc it even more
On the meantime, I spam the other skills that are on 2567. I know, it doesn't sound simple, but u get used to it pretty fast.
ghos75
11-03-2015, 04:48 AM
Hi Devile,
You are doing really great job! I try play like 'you' (I mean this setup) but it is not easy. :(
Can u please share with me your isboxer config ? I would be very grateful.
Greetings.
MARiK
11-03-2015, 06:58 PM
Hi Devile!
I've been trying out your setup and it seems solid!
But I started wondering what I did wrong when I wasn't able to get out maximum efficiency of the group and I noticed your post
about the whole "mapped keys" thing. I've been trying to make it work but it seems a bit complicated...
Would it be possible for you to share your isboxer config file as the previous poster asked?
It would be much appreciated!
I play Seasonal HC and would really like to see what this setup is able to accomplish without dying.
Greetings.
Devile
11-04-2015, 11:37 AM
Don't think this will make much sense to you guys, but anyway, here are my keymaps:
http://pastebin.com/su0Yhd29
It's not exactly what I posted but it's pretty much the idea. I focus only on a few skills while I spam others that run every X seconds so they don't "waste" ORotZ procs. I don't need Laws of Hope Wings of Angels in less than 10 secs so I don't spam it as soon as it's available. I rather save those ORotZ procs for Akarat Champion so I don't have downtime or even Shield Glare or Judgement to I can spam those.
I'm sure u guys can simplify it, but I'm too lazy for that and it works for me.
I realized that I was pushing 70+ with exp stuff. I'll switch for a little more damage/survivability and see how good I do. I'll update my build or maybe create a new spec for pushing GR and another for speedruns. I'll prolly record some videos later tonight. Already got all my Leoric rings/amulets so I should do a little better. The one thing I can't seem to get is the Istvan blades. I've gotten like 10 Little Rogues and 0 Slanderers :/
Samefudge
11-04-2015, 06:46 PM
Group made and practicing with it now. The biggest hurdle so far is managing SC applications timed with Shen's buff, and keeping the buff up in the rifts I am doing (45-55 leveling gems). Also spending time playing with keybinds. All in all, having fun with it so far.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Fameseeker-1497/hero/66589342
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Amberle-1719/hero/67904479
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/samefudge-1408/hero/67904477
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Fyrelake-1276/hero/66854039
Devile
11-04-2015, 11:51 PM
Not pushing GR70+ anymore until I get Paragon 1000+ and/or Season 4 ends. RG fight is a pain in the butt, too long and boring. Recorded a GR70 run so u can see the gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Esi-ZIM5rM
Granted I did it with a Conduit + Power pylon, but still I've managed to do GR70 without pylons, just better density and a better RG. I can easily get to the RG with 4-5 minutes left but the fight takes more than that :/
Time to farm mats and focus on exp. I've updated my spec in D3planner to show what I'm using currently. Basically going with less/no IAS on gear and The Furnace in Cube but Pain Enhancer instead of Gogok. For speedruns, I just switch us Ruby's on Helm and Oculus rings instead of Hellfires.
Devile
11-11-2015, 11:22 AM
Well, 2.4 will destroy this spec so u have like 6 weeks to try it. SC won't proc from other party members and heal monk will be drastically nerfed which means GG for this combo.
Perrigrin
11-18-2015, 05:37 AM
Sadly, not a straight 1 to 4 setup, its a bit complex so its easier to multibox. Basically I've created keys for every skill for each character. They can share the same hotkey in some cases depending on the functionality. For example:
1 = Static Charge on SC monk and mouse1 for the other 3 chars
2 = Breath of Heaven on SC monk + Blinding Flash on heal monk + Condemn on Crusader + Sprint (3s)
3 = Inner Sanctuary on heal monk + Shield Glare on Crusader
4 = Judgement on Crusader (it messes up Cyclone Strike so u wanna have all mobs pulled before using this)
5 = Laws of Hope on Crusader (10s) + Mantra of Healing (0.7s) on heal monk + Ignore Pain on Barb (11s)
6 = WarCry (10s)
7 = Threatening Shout (3s)
I try to use more keys because when u use the same hotkey for 2 or more skills on the same char, sometimes u dont cast the skill. Not a problem when its a low cooldown skill that u can spam, but when it's a timed buff/debuff that u rely on, u can easily die. For example Ignore Pain which I have every 11 secs. If I share it with WarCry or Sprint hotkey and eventually I send it both at the same time, I may miss Ignore Pain, since I have it on trigger once and run the risk of having 11 secs of Ignore Pain downtime which will most likely get me killed. I don't see this when each skill has its own hotkey. Of course I'm not mashing all 7 buttons. My mouse takes care of 2567 and I just focus on 134, right/left clicks.
Since SC monk needs certain rotation when u use 2 generators, it makes it a little bit difficult to make keys work and not lose your F&R buff. My rotation is:
1. Cyclone Strike to pull everything really close and proc F&R on SC charge monk.
2. Inner Sanctuary + Shield Glare + Judgement
3. Main attack to get Assimilation stacks (only 3 hits needed).
4. Static Charge on different mobs to spread the debuff
5. Main attack to proc it even more
On the meantime, I spam the other skills that are on 2567. I know, it doesn't sound simple, but u get used to it pretty fast.
I have a few questions on the key setup
1) Are you never using EP or the mantra on the SC monk? or when you don't name a character, is that a straight broadcast?
2) I am having horrible sync issues with this build, I'm guessing that you hold down shift a lot to avoid this?
3) Is your mouse macro:ed to auto cast 2,5,6,7?
Devile
11-18-2015, 10:04 AM
I have a few questions on the key setup
1) Are you never using EP or the mantra on the SC monk? or when you don't name a character, is that a straight broadcast?
2) I am having horrible sync issues with this build, I'm guessing that you hold down shift a lot to avoid this?
3) Is your mouse macro:ed to auto cast 2,5,6,7?
1. Yes I never use EP. I just rely on the Uliana's 2 piece set bonus for EP. Yes, I know there are "tricks" to get more damage from EP but I don't really care, Uliana's makes it simple. Remember your damage is based on how much spirit u have and applying EP manually can be negative. I use Mantra of Transgression on the SC monk. The active effect of MoT is completely useless. I just need the passive 10% IAS. I do spam Mantra of Healing on the heal monk every second.
2. Always. I never attack without holding shift and that has nothing to do with this setup. Ever since I started multiboxing, I learned it was the best way to avoid dsyncs and now I'm used to it. Even playing solo, I hold shift when attacking. With this setup, I rarely dsync, even with the SC monk teleporting a little here and there, its very easy to teleport him back to the party. If I dsync, Wings of Angels helps rsync in a second, so not an issue.
3. Yes.
Also, forgot to mention I move around with FORCE MOVE. I don't click to move at all. I only click to attack and that's always done with SHIFT. I have force move on my SPACE BAR so I move my party just by pointing where I wanna go and holding space, never clicking on the ground. If I want to attack, I release space and shift + click on targets. Move again? release shift+click and press space. That pretty much removes dsyncs because u never move with clicks on the ground. Clicking on the ground causes most dsyncs cause not all chars are positioned EXACTLY on the map and not all see the exact same content (mobs may not be seen in the exact place for each char, loot on the ground, etc.).
I only get little dsyncs with the SC monk because of the short teleports from FoT but are easy to fix.
Perrigrin
11-19-2015, 10:44 AM
3. Yes.
nm figured it out ;)
MARiK
11-29-2015, 04:50 PM
I have a question, I guess using a second generator like WotHF is supposed to be dashing out more damage since it attacks faster than FoT?
But I feel like when i hold down on WotHF it deals out much less dmg than when I hold down on FoT, whether it is a large group of mobs or a single
single target like the RG. Am I missing something? And btw, thank you so much for this setup, your key maps made all the difference!
Sincere regards// Marik
Devile
11-29-2015, 05:56 PM
If u spread FoT around a lot of mobs, WotHF will do more damage, but remember Static Charge wont last forever so u need to refresh it and repeat the cycle. Spread Static Charge, WotHF a little, repeat.
MARiK
12-01-2015, 06:23 AM
Thanks for the advice! I've tried it out and it seems you're right :)
Another question I have is: What Grift rank difficulties do you make speedruns on? Do you use rubies instead of diamonds?
Devile
12-01-2015, 09:24 AM
Not playing much right now, waiting for 2.4, but when I was doing "speedruns", was doing 60s and yes, using rubies. I never finished the math, but "it felt" I was getting more exp/h than doing 65s. Remember I was doing non season and the lack of Bane of the Stricken made the RG VERY VERY long and that hurt my efficiency by a LOT. If u are doing season and RG goes down in a couple minutes, it might be better for u to do higher runs.
I was doing 60s in 9mins and getting 110-140 bil/h. I'm pretty sure going 55s or so would most likely give me more exp/h but I stopped doing exp before testing that.
NetQvist
01-04-2016, 04:00 AM
Not playing much right now, waiting for 2.4, but when I was doing "speedruns", was doing 60s and yes, using rubies. I never finished the math, but "it felt" I was getting more exp/h than doing 65s. Remember I was doing non season and the lack of Bane of the Stricken made the RG VERY VERY long and that hurt my efficiency by a LOT. If u are doing season and RG goes down in a couple minutes, it might be better for u to do higher runs.
I was doing 60s in 9mins and getting 110-140 bil/h. I'm pretty sure going 55s or so would most likely give me more exp/h but I stopped doing exp before testing that.
Decided to waste a few thousand mats on my non season now that stuff has transferred over and go for a close copy to your build. With non ancient weapons and armor as well as no HF amulet I was doing 60s in 6-8min with stricken. I also have no clue what I'm doing with my rotation as well as the healing monk missing istvan weapons still but ye I'm pretty sure I could speedrun 70s with this build if I got some decent weapons.
Any idea how badly this build has been nerfed for 2.4? I'll probably go 4x DHs anyways at the start of next season but I like this SC build a lot more than the darned HotA barbs with their movement speed issue.
Devile
01-04-2016, 09:29 AM
Any idea how badly this build has been nerfed for 2.4? I'll probably go 4x DHs anyways at the start of next season but I like this SC build a lot more than the darned HotA barbs with their movement speed issue.
DESTROYED. Nerfed completely to the ground, won't even work for SOLO. That's how bad it is :D
Going for 4x DHs as well. Doing exp lately with this build til 2.4 release.
PS: Replaced Blade of Prophecy with The Final Witness in cube for the Support Crusader. Feels a lot smoother. Added Area Damage to the DPS SC monk. http://ptr.d3planner.com/720575702
NetQvist
01-04-2016, 11:22 AM
DESTROYED. Nerfed completely to the ground, won't even work for SOLO. That's how bad it is :D
Going for 4x DHs as well. Doing exp lately with this build til 2.4 release.
PS: Replaced Blade of Prophecy with The Final Witness in cube for the Support Crusader. Feels a lot smoother. Added Area Damage to the DPS SC monk. http://ptr.d3planner.com/720575702
Typical Blizz =P
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