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ebony
08-06-2015, 01:35 PM
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Main Features in Trailer


New Hero Class - Demon Hunter!
New Continent - The Broken Isles
Artifact Weapons
Class Order Halls
Adventure to Level 110
New Dungeons and Raids
New Honor System
Beta begins later this year.


Post-Trailer Discussion


The full CGI cinematic is coming in the future
The Broken Isles was a vast Night Elf civilization, we now have the bones of that civilization. The entire continent is a graveyard of sorts. It has the tomb of Sargeras, a gateway to endless Legion worlds.
A giant demonic invasion is currently underway. The biggest one ever!
We are taking the fight to Gul'dan, fighting at the tomb of Sargeras, then the story begins. This will take place before the expansion launches. It is like the story leading up to Warlords with the Dark Portal, but better.
Everyone who has played WoW is going to be shocked.
Ashbringer and Doomhammer weapons are coming as Artifact weapons, as well others.
We are here to restore peace to the world by forming or renewing class orders, like the Silver Hand.
We are going to need all of the help we can get to fight the Burning Legion, so Demon Hunters are key.
The last time we faced Demon Hunters, most of them wanted to kill us. We will see through Illidan's eyes the story of the Illidari.
We will see the prison world of Shardoom, where all of the demons were held. Then we go to the Vault of the Wardens.
We find the Pillars of Creation.
Dalaran, Kirin Tor, Khadgar are all coming to the Broken Isles.
Dalaran will be the main hub of the expansion..
We go to Val'Sharah, a forgotten Druid refuge. The place Malfurion became the first Druid. We face Xavius, who is trying to unleash the Emerald Nightmare into our world. We enter Black Rook Hold.
We are going into the Emerald Nightmare, will get glimpses into the Emerald Dream.
Stormheim has the Vrykul that left Northrend thousands of years ago. We learn about the Val'kyr.
In Azsuna we will be racing Queen Azshara for control of the Pillars of Creation in the zone.
Highmountain is the home of the Highmountain Tauren. We will visit the lair of the Earth-Warder. Nessingwary also will appear here.
Suramar has a new race of elves made from an old race of elves. They have lived here for 10,000 years and have flourished due to their magical ability. They have become pawns of the Burning Legion and have the last relic we need. We have to kill them all, their guard, and Gul'dan to secure the last relic.
Valyria and Turalyon are here!


Artifacts


There are 36 Artifacts, one for each specialization.
You start by seeking out the Artifact for your spec.
Ret Paladin - Seek out Ashbringer
Frost Death Knight - See out Frostmourne's shards in Icecrown Citadel and reforge them into a pair of runeblades
Earn Artifact Power as you accomplish things. Completing quests, dungeons, battlegrounds, and most major activities. The power is spent to unlock traits that empower your weapon and character, as well as visual customizations.
Each artifact has a trait tree. You choose how you navigate the tree.
Some are simple damage increases, some are new utility such as Death Knights resurrecting themselves.
Each weapon has different looks that you can unlock. Some unlocked by leveling your weapon, some are achievements, raiding, and PvP. Each look has different color variants.
The base weapon has the look we all know and love. There are variants such as an Ashbringer made out of fire, shadow, and lightning.
Sheilun, Staff of the Mists - Mistweaver Monk will go to Pandaria. Variants have Pandarian influences such as the Crane or Sha.
Felo'melorn - Fire Mage will seek out the blade
The Eagle Spear - New to the lore. Highmountain Tauren weapon for Survival Hunters. Several animal themes.
Icebringer and Soulreaper - Blades forged out of Frostmourne. Lots of skulls!
Doomhammer - Enhancement Shamans earn this weapon. Fel, Fire, Crystal, and other variants.
Fangs of the First Nightsaber - Feral and Guardian druids customize the look of their form rather than a weapon. Spectral, Armored, and other variants will be available. Base cat form also getting an updated model.


Class Orders


Alliance and Horde are fighting, but classes can band together to fight this threat.
There will be a heavy focus on class identity.
You lead the Class Order.
Order Halls are a base of operations for your class. You share them with other players of your class. Only members of your class can enter this area, similar to the Death Knight starting area.
Halls will be located in thematically appropriate areas.
Shamans in a cave near the Maelstrom.
Paladins will be under Light's Hope Chapel.
Warlocks will be on a Legion Portal World.
You get special quests and work on your Artifact weapon here.
Your Hall has Champions, an evolution of the followers. This time around you aren't raising an army, but a small group. Some will be established characters. There will be more integration with the world. They won't do things instead of you, but help you to accomplish things. They discover an area for you to investigate. You work alongside them and with them rather than sending them out on missions.


Dungeons and Raids


Dungeons are essential to the MMO experience and there should be more of them with reason to do them for the entire expansion.
Halls of Valor - High up in the clouds, level up dungeon. Inspired by Valhalla.
Black Rook Hold - Max level dungeon in Val'Sharah. Was a bulwark against the Legion, carved out of the mountain to be a fortress. A shadow fell upon it, so you fight your way through to the top to solve this problem.
Vault of the Wardens - Return to the Demon Hunter prison where you begin the hunt for Illidan.
Eye of Azshara, Darkheart Thicket, Neltharion's Lair, Helheim (Takes place on a ghost ship sailing through the sea), Suramar City (City of Night)
Violet Hold - Deep secrets here awakened by The Broken Isles. We learn more about the origins of Dalaran, mages of Dalaran, and the world itself.
The Emerald Nightmare - Raid with 7 bosses. Players have always wanted the Emerald Dream. We climb into the tree and cross through to the Dream.
Suramar Palace - 10 bosses. Home to the Nightwell, center of Suramar's power. Face off against Gul'dan. Start in a catacomb, work your way up to the Nighwell and Gul'dan. He can't run away this time! Not a green Orc raid. It is a royal Elven city.


Demon Hunter


Horns come with different styles, types, no horns is an option.
Tattoos are another feature with variations.
Skins can be normal, scaly, different colors.
Eye coverings
Hero Class - unique starting experience and start at a high level.
Awaken in the Vault of the Wardens, awoken to fight the Legion.
See the past, Illidan sends you on a mission to another world.
Demon Hunter specs - Havok (DPS Spec) and Vengeance (Tank Spec). Only two specs. Demon Hunter healer didn't make sense. Two DPS or Tank specs would water down the identity of the class.
Skills can cost Fury or generate Fury.
Spectral Sight - Allows you to see through walls
Double Jump - get over things that other classes cannot!


Honor System


Gear playing such a huge factor in PvP isn't great.
PvP talent system will help to balance PvP independently from PvE. Abilities only work in PvP.
You unlock more and more, giving you more options as you PvP more.
Abolish Magic - Dispel all magic every 2 sec for 6 sec. Replaces Dispel Magic. 20 sec cooldown.
Blood and Soil - Shaman talent take reduces Bloodlust cooldown, only works for you when cast.
Mind Quickness - add 15% haste
Necrotic Strike - Absorbs heals on the enemy target.
Prestige Ranks - You can reset your honor level and do it again for cosmetic rewards. This is extra rewards for players that do a lot of PvP.
You can earn a badge for your unit frame that shows your rank, special mounts, and PvP Artifact variants.

ebony
08-06-2015, 01:38 PM
playing Muticlassess seem like its going to be hard for boxers as you have your own story's to deal with.

Wpvp Seems dead and we not got access to the Bg's that we can not do.

Demon Hunters - looks like a box-able class in my eyes from the info out there at the min


anything else i don't know what to say.

can not wait to get a few clasess in beta.

Kruschpakx4
08-06-2015, 02:58 PM
Comes down to how much aoe stuff will be added with the 110 talents, but pvp only talent tree sounds very promising

ebony
08-06-2015, 03:04 PM
Comes down to how much aoe stuff will be added with the 110 talents, but pvp only talent tree sounds very promising

but as we can not do BG's W/O using odd ways of doing it and if it does now work in the outside world then it could suck but again we don't know. it was all very basic stuff we was told

Kruschpakx4
08-06-2015, 04:12 PM
just watching the stream, never cared about lore but holy shit this sounds even worse than the story of doodle jump

its basically another burning crusade just with EVERYONE having access to ashbringer & co and EVERYONE beeing commander of their class

Lyonheart
08-06-2015, 04:30 PM
SO a demon hunter is a new class and race? but can only be DH? I hope they have good self healing ( did not sound like they do from info so far ). Looks like a fun expansion. I have plenty to do until then! ( other games )

ebony
08-06-2015, 04:32 PM
SO a demon hunter is a new class and race? but can only be DH? I hope they have good self healing ( did not sound like they do from info so far ). Looks like a fun expansion. I have plenty to do until then! ( other games )


its not a race its just a Bloodelf or nightnight olny.

Fat Tire
08-06-2015, 05:02 PM
Still so much more needs to be explained. Flying, just for one.

Not sure if I like the honor system with talents. Is gear gone? Do pvpers have to do pve again(because fuck that noise)?

Ughmahedhurtz
08-06-2015, 05:24 PM
We are not prepared. Again. Still?

Wubsie
08-07-2015, 02:13 AM
They're definitely going in the right direction with further separating PVP and PVE from each other, from a balancing perspective atleast. They did mention that they wish to make gear much less of a factor (but still so that it does matter slightly) in PVP. Whether this means just instanced PVP (Arenas/BG), or affects WPVP too, I haven't got the faintest clue yet.

Personally I don't like the artifacts system. The whole point of having those "legendary" items gets undermined so much when everyone will have one. Furthermore, does this mean we will never change our weapons? ie: No weapon drops in raids? What about off-specs? Do you just magically get the other item when chaging from say Prot to Holy on a Paladin or do you have to grind levels for both? And I do think it's funny that the weapons seem to have more extensive talent trees than our actual characters:
http://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/icebringer-and-soul-reaper.jpg :D

Demon hunters also look like the could be the new frost deathknights. Many of the abilities they unveiled were AOE cleaves, which might make them interesting to box. They were also advertized as having unparalleled mobility... Now, I shudder to think how much more mobile than rogues/WW monks they can possibly be.

Lyonheart
08-07-2015, 08:47 AM
I was hoping the DH would have a ranged spec..or even a healer. i know they said they didn't do it because it dose not make sense, but its fun to be able to 5 box the same class and have the holy trinity.

Also, they showed a survival hunter weapon.... a SPEAR (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2332&v=e1WIEl4hRvA)? (time stamp 38:16) Interesting! Does this mean hunters are getting the melee spec they have wanted for years? Or is it just another form a ranged ( spear tossing?)

MultiBear
08-07-2015, 09:01 AM
Also, they showed a survival hunter weapon.... a SPEAR (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2332&v=e1WIEl4hRvA)? (time stamp 38:16) Interesting! Does this mean hunters are getting the melee spec they have wanted for years? Or is it just another form a ranged ( spear tossing?)

Survival hunters will become a melee class that fights alongside their pet, Marksmanship hunters will fight as ranged without a pet, and Beast Mastery hunters will remain ranged with a pet. See this interview (http://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/13199-wow-legion-interview-with-tom-chilton-ion-hazzikostas/) for details.

It also mentions Demonology warlocks will focus more on their demons again. As I'm someone who stopped enjoying the spec when Metamorphosis was introduced, I'm hoping it'll be more like a spellcaster version of hunters again. Had lots of fun playing them like that back in the day.

Great. Made myself feel old now. :)

Fat Tire
08-07-2015, 11:10 AM
Survival hunters will become a melee class that fights alongside their pet, Marksmanship hunters will fight as ranged without a pet, and Beast Mastery hunters will remain ranged with a pet. See this interview (http://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/13199-wow-legion-interview-with-tom-chilton-ion-hazzikostas/) for details.



Nice. I miss raptor strike.

Its like a whole new class since survival's abilities are all range atm. I am curious in what melee direction they will take it, maybe a rogue or arms warrior type hybrid with a pet.

Lyonheart
08-08-2015, 03:21 PM
I thought this sounded interesting!





Discipline Priests

Disc Priests are going to be a much more offensive healer after another pass on Atonement which will make it more interactive.
They will still have heals and PW:S, but they will sustain their healing through doing DPS.
Closer to 50% damage and 50% healing spec.
In the past, when Atonement was popular you would just spam Smite and Holy Fire all fight long and use the smart healing, which wasn't very interactive. This time, you may throw out some single target heals giving players a buff. Next time you Smite, people who have that buff will get your healing, and you will have to refresh the buff periodically.
These changes should fix the absorb heavy nature of Discipline Priests.

Andreauk
08-08-2015, 03:34 PM
I thought this sounded interesting!
Discipline Priests

Disc Priests are going to be a much more offensive healer after another pass on Atonement which will make it more interactive.
They will still have heals and PW:S, but they will sustain their healing through doing DPS.
Closer to 50% damage and 50% healing spec.
In the past, when Atonement was popular you would just spam Smite and Holy Fire all fight long and use the smart healing, which wasn't very interactive. This time, you may throw out some single target heals giving players a buff. Next time you Smite, people who have that buff will get your healing, and you will have to refresh the buff periodically.
These changes should fix the absorb heavy nature of Discipline Priests.




May be nice to have 2 of them in a team again for pure lazyness!

ebony
08-11-2015, 12:02 AM
some good news on wpvp

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/383162-active-world-pvp-realists-pvp-talents/



The intent is that PvP talents activate in world PvP, similar to how PvP item levels currently activate in Warlords.