Windows 10

[Truelle]

Anyone else upgraded to Windows 10 yet? I did and seem to be having some issues with performance being much choppier in my slaves windows playing wow....

Just curious what anyone elses experience has been so far....

[Syferr]

I was going to wait for a month or so to let them iron out the bugs . There was a Nvidia update yesterday that was to fix a few of the bugs ?

[Ughmahedhurtz]

There was a Nvidia update yesterday that was to fix a few of the bugs ?

That'd be nice, but I don't see anything newer versus late last night. Took a fair bit of time, research, and manually disabling core services to finally get 353.62 to install. Seems to be pretty stable so far, though I haven't tried multiboxing with it yet.

[woloss]

As for me I get near the same perfomance, because i'm running 20-25 clients (WoW) at one PC. So, i get lag spikes sometimes like before or less or higher.
But i found 1 problem, when i listen online music or radio through Chrome and CPU go to 95-100%, music quality go down to ~10-15% than before. And CPU sit more time at 95-100% than Windows 8.1.
On the other side, my WoW clients use less RAM and i get better perfomance in Marvel Heroes 2015.

[Lax]

Most comments I've heard from people using Windows 10 up to release put it pretty close to the same performance. I am sure for some people it is worse and for some people it is better, I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all answer to "does W10 outperform W8.1 for multiboxing?"


when i listen online music or radio through Chrome
Well there's your problem ;)

[JohnGabriel]

I upgraded my home theatre PC to Windows 10, but have not yet updated my gaming computer or work computer.

Some of my notes.

1. Ease of installation, 5 stars. I clicked OK and came back a few minutes later everything was done and working correctly.

2. Speed, 5 stars. This was kindof a low-end PC I use for movies, not even a graphic card. Boot up time is now only a couple seconds, programs load almost instantly instead of 15-20 seconds, and no more lag at all watching movies. I am going to assume the weaker the computer the more noticeable the speed increase is, since not everyone had the same results as me.

3. Software compatibility, 5 stars. Only one program needed updated but it already had the install file waiting on my desktop. That was spybot search and destroy.

And lastly, everything feels the same. No learning curve for this update.

Scared to update my gaming computer yet, don't want to live without boxing even for a day if something goes wrong.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I upgraded my home theatre PC to Windows 10
*SNIP*
Boot up time is now only a couple seconds, programs load almost instantly instead of 15-20 seconds
Are you actually doing a full boot or just resuming from S3/S4?

[JohnGabriel]

Are you actually doing a full boot or just resuming from S3/S4?

Yeah sorry that is what I meant. Resume not boot.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Yeah sorry that is what I meant. Resume not boot.
Oh, absolutely, then. They've made pretty massive strides with resume caching and such, especially on systems designed to make use of it. I'm going to have to do some testing with S3 on my home unit to see if it actually works properly now; I could usually rely on Win7 to eventually get itself into a funky state after a week or two of resumes.

[JohnGabriel]

We're starting to see the bugs pop up now, though I have not experienced any issues.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/08/06/windows-10bugs-emerge/
http://www.siliconbeat.com/2015/08/04/windows-10-upgrade-bug-makes-some-pcs-unusable/
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/74022/20150805/windows-10-bugs-problems-and-fixes-activation-wi-fi-connectivity-chrome-browser-audio-issues-and-more.htm

I am concerned about the claims that FireFox is making.
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2015/07/30/an-open-letter-to-microsofts-ceo-dont-roll-back-the-clock-on-choice-and-control/

Is Microsoft really going to throttle their competitors again?

[Ughmahedhurtz]

We're starting to see the bugs pop up now, though I have not experienced any issues.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/08/06/windows-10bugs-emerge/
http://www.siliconbeat.com/2015/08/04/windows-10-upgrade-bug-makes-some-pcs-unusable/
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/74022/20150805/windows-10-bugs-problems-and-fixes-activation-wi-fi-connectivity-chrome-browser-audio-issues-and-more.htm

I am concerned about the claims that FireFox is making.
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2015/07/30/an-open-letter-to-microsofts-ceo-dont-roll-back-the-clock-on-choice-and-control/

Is Microsoft really going to throttle their competitors again?

Considering Win10 changed several default apps in my upgrade from Win7; notably Edge instead of Chrome, OneNote App Store version instead of OneNote 2013 Desktop, Groove Music Player vs Windows Media Player Desktop, MSPaint vs Paint.net, etc. including several Microsoft desktop apps, I'm going to go with that old saying "never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by error." Unless you're suggesting that Microsoft purposely went through every possible app setting and made sure to change them all to MS app-store apps?

I can't recall an OS upgrade that didn't require me to tweak settings here and there, and with the introduction of the Windows app store thingy and its app versions of already existing desktop apps, I am wholly unsurprised. Frankly, considering the changes between Win7 and Win10 versus, say, XP and Win7, I'm pleased with how relatively painless things went.

Bugs? Of course.
Monopoly malfeasance? [Citation Needed].

[edit] Final thought: device instability is almost guaranteed to be a driver compatibility issue. Microsoft can supply class-level drivers natively but unless the vendor worked directly to get updated stuff into WindowsUpdate and/or made sure to fix up their downloadable drivers to work properly with Win10, expected results are expected. The WiFi problems are a perfect example of this. Anyone remember when Windows 64-bit showed up? Yeah. I'm gonna go with New OS Growing Pains for $500, Alex. I'll also leave you with this: how many people are getting Win10 for free on systems that barely supported Win7? Are we seeing the same level of bug reports on OEM systems that came preinstalled with Win10? I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess not, based on official threads like this (http://www.forums.toshiba.com/t5/Windows-10/Windows-10-upgrade-information/td-p/657972). ;)

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Yeah, I'm just gonna leave this here...

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[Bollwerk]

Upgraded from 7 to 10 this weekend and I'm very impressed.

After the upgrade, I DID have to click "Update Driver" for my Nvidia card, because it was using a generic Microsoft driver. But it painlessly installed an Nvidia driver all by itself, with no interaction from me. I like it!

The only problem I've had is with iCloud, which I don't really use, so I uninstalled it (the photo part caused a blinking desktop).

For what it's worth, I didn't let Win10 change any of my defaults. This is optional during the upgrade, but you have to opt out.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

After the upgrade, I DID have to click "Update Driver" for my Nvidia card, because it was using a generic Microsoft driver. But it painlessly installed an Nvidia driver all by itself, with no interaction from me. I like it!
From my experience, my friend's experience, and what I've read online, it was only the people using the NVidia vendor driver that had issues; I'm sure if we'd have uninstalled that and used the WindowsUpdate driver on Win7 prior to install, we'd have had the same experience as you. ;)

[Bollwerk]

From my experience, my friend's experience, and what I've read online, it was only the people using the NVidia vendor driver that had issues; I'm sure if we'd have uninstalled that and used the WindowsUpdate driver on Win7 prior to install, we'd have had the same experience as you. ;)
Well, I was using the latest Nvidia driver in Win7 prior to the upgrade. I did not uninstall it.
Maybe I'm just lucky.

[JohnGabriel]

They are doing it very slowly. Two of my computers are now upgraded to Win 10 and my third has the upgrade reserved but is not yet able to upgrade.

I am guessing (I do that a lot) that as they upgrade everyone in small groups they are fixing the problems (bugs?) the previous group had. I cant recall an upgrade ever going this smoothly, I am not that lucky.

Some people are having trouble.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/13/two_weeks_of_windows_10_how_is_microsoft_doing/

Though in the above link its saying a few bugs with people who bypass windows update to avoid compatibility checks. Not sure why they would consider that Microsoft's fault. Here is one quote

Windows 10 is usable then; but it is the buggiest new release I can recall.

That's the opposite experience I am having with it.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

That's the opposite experience I am having with it.
I'm having zero issues once I got the NVidia driver to install properly. Ditto my machines at work. As with most releases, the most visible SNAFU is with the vendor drivers. That's not entirely MSFT's fault, though I get the feeling they really didn't work closely enough with NVidia to make sure the GeForce Experience upgrade problems were handled gracefully.

[beeq]

ShadowPlay forces itself to disabled (diagonal red line on the icon) most of the time in Windows 10, but that could be just a bad GeForce Experience update. Could be non-functional in non-Windows 10 machines as well, can't confirm.. >_<

I used to have some NVidia driver issues upon upgrading to W10Pro (low resolution etc), but somehow I managed to fix it via Device Manager, uninstalled current video card drivers, and a few seconds later the screen went black once or twice, and all of the sudden the issue was gone and resolution hopped up to 4k

Currently I'm experiencing this issue (http://superuser.com/questions/952141/windows-10-system-process-taking-massive-amounts-of-ram). If the uptime have been few days or more, the System process uses sick amount of RAM. I just googled it and going to try later tonight if disabling SuperFetch solves it..

[Dadjitsu]

The main thing that I have since upgrading to win 10 is that Isboxer now takes 5 mins delay at startup to get window swapping to work, this is regardless of having re-booted my system. I am able to login each account from their fixed position, by the time the accounts have logged in, swapping starts working, so its not really an issue for me.

My main PC upgraded smooth as silk, my second pc, I had to use USB Flash drive to upgrade, as it failed 7 times via the windows update way. The USB Flash drive was very smooth, but it took longer to sort the system out. I may have had problems due to the system being 5 years with no re-install, its an I7 1366 rampage II, it still runs very well so I have hung onto it.

[Ñightsham]

About the only issue I'm experiencing is the delay in window swapping on initial loading (5 toons), the swapping is bound to my G1-G5 keys and it's buggy. Also when entering my password it requires me to enter it in each screen seperately, whereas I use to be able to enable the key repeater and enter all at the same time.