How to afford wow tokens every month?

[xandorz]

I am thinking about getting 3 accounts active again and pay for subscription with gold.

Anyone got ideas of how to afford it without too much effort?
EU token is 48k gold.
I have 450k gold but not really getting any gold so if i use the gold it will run out fast, just got back to wow.

I think follower missions is the best way now but takes a long time to set up. Almost 6 months just to recruit the followers on each character.
I don't think the diminishing return affect other accounts on the same battlenet account but not sure, and I don't think it affects other realms so the amount of gold that could be gained from follower missions is probably REALLY big, way more than the subscription cost.
But would suck setting it up over like 6 months time and then have it nerfed or gold rewards removed (maybe in next expansion).

Some minor things that give gold:
Guilds on each team, 750g for 3 dungeons. If I would level many teams at the same time (11? 1 of each class on each acc) it could give 33k a month.
Could jump between guilds to not have a limit on rewards for guild dungeon (would have to activate a 4th account for a month and have it be guild master in every guild, veteran accounts can use guild invite), would require 192 dungeons to cover each token cost, way too many to do monthly but awesome bonus while lvling.
Think kazzak kills are worth ~1k gold on each character from felblight. But losing value and requires lvl 100. If done on 11 chars every week it would be about same value as a token.

Cant come up with anything that doesnt work cross-server, so would probably be best to make each character on its own realm, to not increase diminishing return on follower missions.

Not sure about things like professions (I remember when stuff like alchemy was really useful, press 1 button on each char for a nice sum of gold daily).

[zenga]

I have 7 lvl 100 on my main account, and setup the garrison exactly the same for each:
- the building that allows you to recruit a follower each week
- the building that allows you 25 followers
- the building where you can turn in resources for equipment
- the building where you can turn in resources for mats
- enchanting building

First I made sure that I have a steady income of resources by recruiting scavengers. Once I had 3-4 of those I started recruiting the guys who double up the gold. Levelling the followers goes pretty fast, and you can also find followers all over the map. Takes a few hours and you get like 20 of them to start with.

I turn in all xp for dust, dust I use to make the epic dust in the enchanting building.
I pretty much do only gold missions and xp missions.

I make around 15k a day easy in my garrison, without selling the mats from the enchanting building. And that is from about 1.5 rounds of missions on average per day (5-10 minutes tops). On 1 account.

The only hard part is levelling the followers, meaning that you ll spend more time in the beginning doing missions to level them up.

Not sure where you getting those 6 months from, but that is far from true. Your 450k will last you quite a bit till your garrison is self-sufficient.

[xandorz]

With the 6 months I meant that it takes 1 week for each recruit, but I guess only maybe 10 followers with correct traits are needed for a decent chance of getting good gold / garrison resources from missions.

So maybe 2 months until I start seeing decent numbers from garrison and 6 months to get all the followers with right traits.

[Syferr]

I made 1.5 mill gold in the first 2.5 weeks of 6.2 selling the rep tokens in Tannan Jungle, that was killing the 4 rares 3 times a day on 15 toons.

I would have to say that was the best gold ive made in wow since i started playing in 2007.

[luxlunae]

Syferr makes a good point.

The best way to make gold is to play a LOT in the first two weeks of a patch and be willing to sell everything you get.

I also, personally, don't multibox all of the time. I just activated all five boxes two days ago, and I think this is the third month I've done this year. I only pay for the extra boxes when I'm sure I have the time and attention for it.

[Wubsie]

I make pretty good, very passive gold from Barns. I have 20 in total, spread over 4 teams. Each team makes about 16-18k every 3 or so days depending on competition and takes about 40 min of work per team each week to trap the needed mobs. So a roughly 128-144k gold each week with about 2h 40 min of work.

I'm quite lazy with it and could definitely be making lots more with the rush orders available from garrison resources, but this is keeping my subs going comfortably, and beyond that, I really have no use for gold anyways. Sure, I should stock up while I can, but with limited play time, I usually can not be bothered to spend my time farming.

Oh, and there's always Cata raids. If you run them on 25HC, the bosses drop 125g per toon in the raid + loot items. With a 5 box, clearing all of them will equal to about 21k each week.

[MultiBear]

I am thinking about getting 3 accounts active again and pay for subscription with gold.

Not to rain on your parade, but I just wanted to make sure you're aware of what I posted in this thread (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/52290-Blizzard-clarifies-current-WoW-Token-limitations). Given current limitations, over a two year period with three accounts, you'd only be able to pay for half of your subscription with gold.

[Truelle]

Any tips for farming those rares in Tannan?

[Syferr]

Any tips for farming those rares in Tannan?

Im on Oceanic so i need to sit there and wait at a FP till one spawns, but ive heard on the US realms that the group finder has quite a few groups on there for faster killing. The 4 rares seem to have a 1 hr ish spawn timer on each phase, the best place to sit is the FP north of where Veng spawns, its the closest FP to all 4 rares then once one yells in general take FP to closest point.

[xandorz]

Barns seem good, especially since it can be done right away, doesnt need recruiting and lvling followers.
Maybe barns might lose some value soon now that conquest weapons are just about to be available for everyone and people are getting more and more geared up.

I started a 5man team across 2 bnet accounts (i dont really mind if I can only play 50% of the time, I usually dont have my subscription active that much anyway).
I have some performance issue tho.
It works fine except for when I spam a button, if I do stuff like spamming a button and move camera it jumps all over the place.
It is specifically the button spamming that is the problem. (if i run around or if I use ability once and then move camera while it is casting it works fine)
Not sure if it is keyclone sending all the keys or if it is the macro spam that is making me lag, but something like that.

Tried it on my laptop.
dont think it is related to cpu, got a i7 and it use up 10-15% cpu only with power saving mode turned off.
It has 8 GB ram and using 80%, not sure if it needs more ram. could buy 8 GB more but idk if it does any difference.
NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M
Windows 8.1

Know where the performance problem is?

Just tried RFC, so much lag, can barely move when using abilities. Not lagging when I dont use abilities. With this I cant multibox.
Tried closing windows and see if it still happened. With 2 wow it works fine but with 3 or more it is just as bad as with 5 wow.
Idk what the problem is, with 20% free ram with 5 wow or ~40% free with 3 wow up, I cant see that it can be ram that is the problem. Shouldnt be CPU since it is at 15%, unless it is somehow hindered from using more that I dont know about. Doesnt feel like a graphical problem either, so shouldnt be gpu.
Probably related to it being a laptop, never had this problem on desktop.

[MiRai]

Barns seem good, especially since it can be done right away, doesnt need recruiting and lvling followers.
Maybe barns might lose some value soon now that conquest weapons are just about to be available for everyone and people are getting more and more geared up.

I started a 5man team across 2 bnet accounts (i dont really mind if I can only play 50% of the time, I usually dont have my subscription active that much anyway).
I have some performance issue tho.
It works fine except for when I spam a button, if I do stuff like spamming a button and move camera it jumps all over the place.
It is specifically the button spamming that is the problem. (if i run around or if I use ability once and then move camera while it is casting it works fine)
Not sure if it is keyclone sending all the keys or if it is the macro spam that is making me lag, but something like that.

Tried it on my laptop.
dont think it is related to cpu, got a i7 and it use up 10-15% cpu only with power saving mode turned off.
It has 8 GB ram and using 80%, not sure if it needs more ram. could buy 8 GB more but idk if it does any difference.
NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M
Windows 8.1

Know where the performance problem is?

Just tried RFC, so much lag, can barely move when using abilities. Not lagging when I dont use abilities. With this I cant multibox.
Tried closing windows and see if it still happened. With 2 wow it works fine but with 3 or more it is just as bad as with 5 wow.
Idk what the problem is, with 20% free ram with 5 wow or ~40% free with 3 wow up, I cant see that it can be ram that is the problem. Shouldnt be CPU since it is at 15%, unless it is somehow hindered from using more that I dont know about. Doesnt feel like a graphical problem either, so shouldnt be gpu.
Probably related to it being a laptop, never had this problem on desktop.
This thread is about WoW tokens and making gold. If you need assistance with your multiboxing setup then I ask that you start your own thread in the proper sub-forum.

[Starbuck_Jones]

Another viewpoint is this: Why are you playing WoW right now and do you want to turn it into a job by putting in a number of hours each day/week/month just to maintain not paying for a sub?

Very few people have the fortitude to play this way.

[EaTCarbS]

Another viewpoint is this: Why are you playing WoW right now and do you want to turn it into a job by putting in a number of hours each day/week/month just to maintain not paying for a sub?

Very few people have the fortitude to play this way.

Its the same story with plex in eve. Why grind for hours in a game when you can work a real life job for a fraction of the time for the same result? Unless you enjoy the process of farming the in-game money...

[Truelle]

I think there a many people and I am sure many multi-boxers who do really enjoy the gold making part of the game. I am sure some multi-boxers started or continue to multli-box just for this reason. Especially with no-follow in battlegrounds, making gold has to be one of the best reasons to multibox now...

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I think there a many people and I am sure many multi-boxers who do really enjoy the gold making part of the game. I am sure some multi-boxers started or continue to multli-box just for this reason. Especially with no-follow in battlegrounds, making gold has to be one of the best reasons to multibox now...

First part about tokens being the impetus behind some new boxers and some others keeping subs active, I agree with. Second part about making gold being one of the best reasons to multibox, I personally disagree. For me, gold/money is not a factor in my enjoyment of a game unless the lack of gold (read: the tedium required to gain it) prevents me from doing the things I enjoy doing. In that, I suppose I'm closer to EatCarbs; I spend my time working during the day so I can play when I'm home. When farming gold starts to feel like work, I'm out.

[JohnGabriel]

Just because you have a job and can pay the subscription, its not like extra money. Everyone has priorities, cell phone, internet, netflix, etc and if you can find a way to pay for WoW some other way its more to spend elsewhere. To most it may not be worth it to save the price of a subscription, but those guys probably saved money elsewhere in their budget so they can pay it.

[Asterix]

I don't want to get x Garrisons and log through all of them regularly to farm enough gold to buy my monthly sub.

I just play the game, enjoy playing and from time to time, when I got some gold left out of my playing, I buy a token.

[beeq]

I don't want to get x Garrisons and log through all of them regularly to farm enough gold to buy my monthly sub.

I just play the game, enjoy playing and from time to time, when I got some gold left out of my playing, I buy a token.

Heh, having x Garrisons isn't so bad. I got 110 of them, half at max tier with max buildings, excluding Inns at lvl 2.
You know it takes only 15 minutes in total / day to send 2750 followers into their missions. ( Master Plan + Broadcasting )

Yesterday I purchased enough Tokens to keep 10 accounts alive for next 6 months.

[Asterix]

110 gars... 2750 followers .... omg.

I'd starve or die of thirst in front of my PC *lol*

Who are you? Shiva? :-D

http://www.skylinetradeshowtips.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/10arms.png

[beeq]

110 gars... 2750 followers .... omg.


To be honest, the 2750 followers is only the goal in the far far horizon. Currently I have a tad over half of it.

With Refer-A-Friend system, it is possible to level a toon from 1 to 90 in approx 10 hours. One hour more and you'll get yourself a Garrison.
I leveled four toons at the same time, so technically it took 2h 45min per toon from level 1 to their own Garrison.

Against all the assumptions, I do have a 40h/week job, and a loving concubine :)

[zenga]

Against all the assumptions, I do have a 40h/week job, and a loving concubine :)

noun

* a woman who cohabits with a man to whom she is not legally married, especially one regarded as socially or sexually subservient; mistress.
* (among polygamous peoples) a secondary wife, usually of inferior rank.
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seems like you have your shit sorted!

[beeq]

noun

* a woman who cohabits with a man to whom she is not legally married, especially one regarded as socially or sexually subservient; mistress.
* (among polygamous peoples) a secondary wife, usually of inferior rank.
* (especially formerly in Muslim societies) a woman residing in a harem and kept, as by a sultan, for sexual purposes.



seems like you have your shit sorted!

Haha yeah that sounds about right

[Mosg2]

I'm a fan of Barns. I run 90 of them. Every four days I drink a bottle of wine and trap wolves for ~2-3 hours.

[Kayley]

damn, so the barns are actually worth it? lol

[beeq]

Short math which soothes the things out:
Amount of WoW accounts * WoW Token price / Amount of characters in total / 30 = Gold needed to earn per character per day
If you can keep this up, you'll have a lifetime supply of Game Time.

My result is 142g, which equals a good mission / day / character :)

[scottik]

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If you can keep this up, you'll have a lifetime supply of Game Time.


Well only if you have your wow accounts on separate battle.net accounts

[beeq]

Well only if you have your wow accounts on separate battle.net accounts

Yeah true.

I used to have only 2 Battle.net accounts (containing 8+2 WoW accounts) but since I had "recently created accounts (as in year or two)" Blizzard agreed to my request to split the WoW accounts between separate Battle.net accounts each.

Phew! Otherwise I'd had been screwed big time (due to 36 tokens / 24 months limitation / Battle.net account (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/52290-Blizzard-clarifies-current-WoW-Token-limitations))

[Uhnknown]

I'd suggest building a Frostwall Tavern(Followers with the Treasure Hunter trait / Followers with the Scavenger trait which gives extra resources from missions + Treasure hunter missions from tier 3 tavern, treasure hunter missions are the gold missions that can give upwards of 3k or 4k from the Blingtron's Secret Vault which is a rare mission, you usually get anywhere from 200g - 900g easy.

I'd also suggest the Trading post for spending garrison resources when the items such as dust, ore, leather / fur and herbs are 5 GR per 5, another good idea is to build the Barracks and upgrade to tier 3 so your follower limit is 25.

If you have a lot of followers with epic mounts i'd also build a Salvage Yard for boxes, open those maybe once a week since you can make upwards of 1k from vendoring alot of the greens and disenchanting blues(the class specific transmog gear from them, good amount of Draenic Dust from them since they vendor for only 3-5g or so).

Also look into gearing your character's to ilvl 675 and raising your follower ilvl as much as possible(645 atleast with the follower upgrade tokens from the vendor inside your garrison town hall, they cost 500g each but are worth it with the new missions that get unlocked), getting your character to ilvl 675 is known to 'unlock' the new 675 missions that reward the Heirloom trinket / Medallions of the Legion / Champion's Honor / Elixir of the Rapid Minds / and the garrison resources + oil caches that you can use etc, also the Cinder Pup and Burning Blade toy.

Proffession wise i'd suggest getting maybe Tailoring on a few toons to craft Hexweave Bags every few days even though they seem to be dropping in price, but on my server they sell for a easy 1500g, and with a Tailoring Building + the Proffession i seem to make them every 3 days or so.

Also make sure to run ATLEAST H Cata 25 raids every week, such as Bastion of Twilight, Blackwing Descent, Firelands, Dragon Soul, and Throne of the Four Winds(Not suggested imo since you only make like 400-500g from it compared to 1k - 2k from the others) You can make a MINIMUM of 6k from running all of them except ToT4W. Also make sure you kill Kazzak weekly with Felblights being 200g or so per, and a guaranteed drop from Kazzak.

Just a few suggestions and methods i use on my 11 level 100s to get enough gold for tokens, with running H 25 Cata raids i can make a easy 66k weekly and Kazzak kills yields roughly 20-25k from Felblights depending on the amount he drops for my alts. Not to mention 9 character's having treasure hunter missions which gives about 3-5k from missions on average daily, more depending on rare missions and if i check them twice a day instead of once.


Feel free to add to this as i'm sure i'm forgetting a few common methods, but that's all i could think of.

[Pocahuntess]

Nice little mini guide! Thanks!

[emitchell109]

Yes, appreciate the info here.
Many thanks.


#highfive

[Kruschpakx4]

Also make sure to run ATLEAST H Cata 25 raids every week, such as Bastion of Twilight, Blackwing Descent, Firelands, Dragon Soul, and Throne of the Four Winds(Not suggested imo since you only make like 400-500g from it compared to 1k - 2k from the others) You can make a MINIMUM of 6k from running all of them except ToT4W. Also make sure you kill Kazzak weekly with Felblights being 200g or so per, and a guaranteed drop from Kazzak.


Actually in terms of gold/time BoT trashfarm is still better, you are limited to 10 ids per hour and the amount of items dropped has been nerfed according to forum posts, but I'm still making constant 600-700 gold in 10 runs +200 embersilk cloth and sometimes lockboxes containing 25-35g +greens (per toon). Of course to make this lucrative each toon gets a seperate id, movement key broadcasting works out pretty well there since you dont have to run around corners, that makes up an avarage of 3250 gold on 5 accounts plus 1k cloth in 20-30 minutes depending on your gear/movement speed increasing tools, my shamans are still in green. To eliminate any travel time I got my hearthstone in Crushblow (outpost next to BoT) and when dungeon entering is on cooldown I work on the garrison and other stuff. Regardless of your number of accounts if you do those runs 2-3 times a day it pays your accounts until you got garrisons up and running.

[Kayley]

I used to (speed)farm MoP dungeons for gold, I half-drunkenly decided to do it again FOR OLD TIME SAKE.. 8k an hour in just gold, limiting factor is the stupid instance per hour cap. So if you have any level 90 teams still around, turn off the XP and go nuts.

If you do above raids etc, sell the lockout to people who are chasing mounts?

[Kruschpakx4]

I used to (speed)farm MoP dungeons for gold, I half-drunkenly decided to do it again FOR OLD TIME SAKE.. 8k an hour in just gold, limiting factor is the stupid instance per hour cap. So if you have any level 90 teams still around, turn off the XP and go nuts.

If you do above raids etc, sell the lockout to people who are chasing mounts?

which dungeon were you doing? I remember mogushan palace rewarded much

Selling Lichking only IDs worked in the past, have to try out if people in wod are still interested since its really not that big deal anymore, are there any bosses in the cata/mop content people are interested in?

[Fat Tire]

medallion of the legion, hexweave bags and bloods/felblight keep me rollin in the gold with minimal time investment. Its insane really.

[Kruschpakx4]

What if I trap a beast for the Barn, does everyone in group with a barn aquire the beast too or would I have to trap multiple times?

[MultiBear]

What if I trap a beast for the Barn, does everyone in group with a barn aquire the beast too or would I have to trap multiple times?

Everyone in the party that has a barn of the required level (you need a level 3 barn for the elite beasts) will get a caged beast in their bags.

[Mosg2]

Everyone in your *party will. If you're in a raid, it still works, but only for the 5 people in the party of whoever dropped the trap.

Alternately, you could trade me EQ Krono and/or Daybreak Games subscription time :)

[beeq]

medallion of the legion, hexweave bags and bloods/felblight keep me rollin in the gold with minimal time investment. Its insane really.

I'm doing only missions, and receiving golds and tailoring rush orders as rewards.
Currently I got 3176x (yeah over three thousand) Rush Order: Tailoring Emporium

Once in a month I park my toons into my Tailoring Emporiums, bags full of Sumptuous Fur (bought from my Trading Posts when Yula is up), and rush the orders until 10,000 Hexweave Cloth for 100 bags, which get sold very fast.

I got 10 accounts now active for next 12 months, and a bit over than that. Insane indeed.
Also sharding everything that isn't an upgrade, BoPs included ^^