Upcoming GPUs (2015)

[MiRai]

nVidia

Titan X

MSRP: $1,000
VRAM: 12GB

Reviews:
Anandtech (http://www.anandtech.com/show/9059/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-review)
Guru3D (http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-review,1.html)
Hard OCP (http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/04/14/nvidia_geforce_gtx_titan_x_video_card_review)
HardwareCanucks (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/68992-nvidia-titan-x-performance-review.html)
KitGuru (SLI) (http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-12-gb-sli/)
Legit Reviews (http://www.legitreviews.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-video-card-review_160070)
TechPowerUp (https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_Titan_X/)
Tom's Hardware (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-gm200-maxwell,4091.html)
TweakTown (SLI) (http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/7049/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-12gb-sli-two-much-better-one/index.html)
HardwareInfo (2/3/4-way SLI) (http://us.hardware.info/reviews/6033/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-sli--3-way-sli--4-way-sli-review-insane-performance!)

Notes:

Fully unlocked GM200-400 chip
3,072 CUDA Cores
Has the tendency to run warm which could result in throttling
Hybrid AIO WC from EVGA (http://www.evga.com/articles/00935/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-TITAN-X-HYBRID/)
ACX 2.0+ Cooler replacement from EVGA (http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=100-FS-2990-B9)




980Ti

MSRP: $650-$750 (Different models vary in price)
VRAM: 6GB

Reviews:
Anandtech (http://www.anandtech.com/show/9306/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-review)
Bit-Tech (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2015/05/31/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-review/1)
Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2015/05/31/nvidias-new-gtx-980-ti-delivers-titan-x-level-performance-for-350-less/)
Guru3D (http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-review,1.html)
HardwareCanucks (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/69502-nvidia-gtx-980ti-performance-review.html)
KitGuru (http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/nvidia-gtx980-ti-review/)
TechPowerUp (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_980_Ti/)
Tom's Hardware (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti,4164.html)
TweakTown (http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7170/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-reference-video-card-review/index.html)
Zol (Chinese) (http://vga.zol.com.cn/522/5229872.html)

Babeltech (Large Overview) (http://i1.wp.com/www.babeltechreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/TheBigPicture.jpg) (No idea how accurate or trustworthy)

Notes:

Slightly cut-down GM200-310 chip
2,816 CUDA Cores
About 5-10% slower than a Titan X



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AMD

Fury X

MSRP: $650
VRAM: 4GB

Reviews:
Anandtech (http://www.anandtech.com/show/9390/the-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review)
Guru3D (http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review,1.html)
Hexus (http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/84170-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-4gb/)
Hot Hardware (http://hothardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review-fiji-and-hbm-put-to-the-test)
Legit Reviews (http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-video-card-review_167134)
Overclock3D (http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/amd_r9_fury_x_review/1)
Tech Report (http://techreport.com/review/28513/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-graphics-card-reviewed)
Tom's Hardware (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x,4196.html)
TweakTown (http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7217/amd-radeon-r9-fury-high-bandwidth-memory-hbm-video-card-review/index.html)



Notes:

The first GPU to ever be equipped with HBM (High Bandwidth Memory)
AIO/CLC (All-In-One / Closed-Loop Cooling) requires you to find a place to mound the 120mm radiator
Runs quiet and cool
HBM is very fast memory which may help if you're pushing its 4GB limit as is shown in numerous 4K benchmarks
There will be an air-cooled version in the future







Review site choices based on either:

1) The first few that show up in Google
2) Sites that I've read in the past
3) Other mega-thread review threads that I find on other forums >_>

[Lyonheart]

Confirmation of price ( no reviews yet.. later today maybe ) Titan X (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nvidia-reveals-12gb-gtx-titan-x-price-and-specs/1100-6425971/) $999.00

[MiRai]

Confirmation of price ( no reviews yet.. later today maybe ) Titan X (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nvidia-reveals-12gb-gtx-titan-x-price-and-specs/1100-6425971/) $999.00
The NDA lifted at 12PM PST and apparently the GPUs will only be available directly from nVidia (http://www.geforce.com/geforce-gtx-titan-x/buy-gpu) for now, although other nVidia partners are showing a pre-order button, like EVGA (http://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=0&family=GeForce+TITAN+Series+Family).

I really wish Crossfire worked in windowed mode, because the 390X is supposedly only 10% slower than the Titan X, and you can rest assured that AMD won't be pricing it at $1,000.

[mbox_bob]

And the "I live in the UK premium" has priced the TitanX at £922. Working out from the $999 USD, this should be £684. Even if I pretend there is no tax, and add VAT (20%) it comes out as £802.

Getting ripped again.

edit: ok, found one at £870.

[moosejaw]

I am getting at least one Titan X. Maybe from Nvidia or maybe from Evga when they are permitted to start selling.
I stepped up to 1440p and sometimes that frame buffer will spike on me, even with settings pulled back. I was playing Far Cry 4 with everything turned up and that game was eating nearly 3gb of frame buffer at 1440p. I can't imagine doing 4k gaming with only 4gb.

[moosejaw]

Up for pre order at Amazon (http://smile.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-384bit-Graphics-12G-P4-2990-KR/dp/B00UVN21RQ/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=11A49R2YSSBHR6D6YX97) (Evga base clock).

[MiRai]

Eventually I'll get around to updating the OP, but right now the rumors of the new 980 Ti have begun showing up. It's supposedly going to be a bit faster than the Titan X, be priced about $300 cheaper, but have only 6GB of VRAM. I'm sure that'll be a nice GPU to grab three of in order to start up my 4K multiboxing again. :)

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-coming-summer/
http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/20265-geforce-gtx-980-ti-anlander-efter-sommaren

In other news, nVidia is planning to allow 8-way SLI with their next generation of GPUs (Pascal) (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2898175/nvidias-next-gen-pascal-gpu-will-offer-10x-the-performance-of-titan-x-8-way-sli.html). I might have to get some crowdsource funding going on so that we can get some benchmarks with that... for multiboxing science!

[Ughmahedhurtz]

They're predicting 10x the performance of today's GPUs... /faint

Guess I'd better start preparing for upgrade hell again. :P

[Lyonheart]

My next big investment will be right before Star Citizen (https://robertsspaceindustries.com/) goes live. And i want to play that game in all its glory. So I'm sure ill be SLIing for that. But 8 way SLI?!?

S0 why do they do that? Make a Titan for 1k+ than not long after come out with a faster card for less money? Is it that Titans are for people who program AND play games?

[MiRai]

They're predicting 10x the performance of today's GPUs... /faint

Guess I'd better start preparing for upgrade hell again. :P
I think you'd have to take that statement with a grain of salt, especially coming direct from nVidia, and I'm guessing that if the stars aligned in a perfectly coded application designed to use every ounce of power from the GPUs that you might see 10x the performance, but I highly doubt that'll ever happen in the games that we play (although it'd be so nice to be wrong). :)


My next big investment will be right before Star Citizen (https://robertsspaceindustries.com/) goes live. And i want to play that game in all its glory. So I'm sure ill be SLIing for that. But 8 way SLI?!?
I would have to guess that 8-way SLI is going to be something special for workstations or supercomputers, or something else along those lines. I don't think they're expecting gamers to be taking advantage of it, at least not at first, and I don't think any modern day motherboard has the capability to do > 4-way SLI if it was even an option.


S0 why do they do that? Make a Titan for 1k+ than not long after come out with a faster card for less money? Is it that Titans are for people who program AND play games?
I'll agree that it is an odd rumor, and the original rumor was that it'd actually be a cut down GM200 chip. So, slightly slower than the Titan X with half as much VRAM, but I'm all for it if nVidia wants to enable more CUDA cores in the Ti version and sell it for less than the Titan X. :)

It might be time for a full case upgrade with (possibly) water-cooling, so I'm pretty excited to be thinking about all of that.

[Ñightsham]

Titan Z vs Titan X, worth the $500 difference? (For the increased memory bandwidth, yet slower base clock speed)

....... Disregard, this is a dual gpu card :(

[Ñightsham]

Confirmation of price ( no reviews yet.. later today maybe ) Titan X (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nvidia-reveals-12gb-gtx-titan-x-price-and-specs/1100-6425971/) $999.00
...I pre-ordered on amazon, estimated delivery 30-45 days.

[moosejaw]

I lucked out and got an Evga Titan X SC ordered from Newegg last night. Limit one per account. I had 2 pre-ordered with Amazon with no estimated ship date.

[moosejaw]

EVGA Titan X SC currently in stock at New Egg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487130), limit one.

[MiRai]

The latest rumor is that nVidia might be launching the 980 Ti in 4-6 weeks!

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2428530

[Lyonheart]

The latest rumor is that nVidia might be launching the 980 Ti in 4-6 weeks!

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2428530

It makes me much more excited for the near future of the GPU war. If the AMD GPU is that scary that it is causing nvidia to do this, wow! When is that last time nvidia has been scared of an upcoming AMD gpu that they do this kind of thing? I thinks its been vice versa in the past right?

[MiRai]

Update the original post with information about the upcoming GTX 980 Ti since it has begun showing up for pre-order in Asia.


I thinks its been vice versa in the past right?
AMD has been late to the party for the past several generations of GPUs, and they're very late to the current party. If they don't bring something absolutely amazing then they can expect more market share loss, so I suspect it will be exciting to see if what they've got in store since it's unlikely we're going to see the next generation of nVidia GPUs until 2016.

[moosejaw]

EVGA Titan X SC (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487130) has been in stock at newegg for almost 24 hours straight. This is first time since launch anyone has had continuous stock for this long. Maybe the supply chain is starting to catch up.

I have been playing GTA V in 4k with sli titans and it is amazingly georgous. I am getting a third Titan to push the fps up over 60. With the Titans water cooled, the peak temps have been <40c on gaming and benchmarks (I have low ambient temps ~ 20c).

[Benjii]

Anyone multiboxing WoW in 4k with Titans? I'm currently running 8-clients in 4k with i7-5960X and 2 980's in SLI, but I have to keep settings very low. I'm thinking bout upgrading to 2 Titans X but its quite an investment.

[JohnGabriel]

I found a tech post that says 24Gb is the minimum recommended RAM for using the Titan X.

http://forums.evga.com/System-Requirements-for-Titan-X-m2310062.aspx#2310149
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/819411/titan-x-minimum-system-requirements/

I was at Cyberpowerpc and selected a system with 16GB RAM and they mentioned nothing about it. I also took the printout to a local computer store and they mentioned nothing about it. Maybe the minimum RAM requirement is not a big deal.

[MiRai]

980 Ti confirmed to have 6GB of VRAM and have a GM200-310 GPU. What the -310 means is anyone's guess, but the rumor has changed to the 980 Ti not being as powerful as the Titan X. While I wasn't hoping to hear that, it makes sense seeing as anything faster than the Titan X is likely going to cannibalize its sales.

http://videocardz.com/55419/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-confirmed-to-feature-6gb-memory



I found a tech post that says 24Gb is the minimum recommended RAM for using the Titan X.

http://forums.evga.com/System-Requirements-for-Titan-X-m2310062.aspx#2310149
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/819411/titan-x-minimum-system-requirements/

I was at Cyberpowerpc and selected a system with 16GB RAM and they mentioned nothing about it. I also took the printout to a local computer store and they mentioned nothing about it. Maybe the minimum RAM requirement is not a big deal.
That's old information. Only 8GB is required and 16GB is recommended.

http://www.geforce.com/geforce-gtx-titan-x/buy-gpu

I cannot find the post at the moment, but Jacob from EVGA explained that if for some reason the VRAM needed to move into the system RAM, you would need that much available or else you'd likely crash. Seeing as most GPUs are only equipped with 4GB at most these days, this has never been an issue.

[moosejaw]

Anyone multiboxing WoW in 4k with Titans? I'm currently running 8-clients in 4k with i7-5960X and 2 980's in SLI, but I have to keep settings very low. I'm thinking bout upgrading to 2 Titans X but its quite an investment.

I can test for you. How is your config, full screen stacked? Or leave room for VFX viewers? I can do 6 clients @ 4k and report on the stats.
Right now I run 1440p windows in ultra with viewers to the side. Vram is ~ 5gb (don't remember exact number) and gpu load is less than half.
GTA V runs over 90% load and ~ 5.2 gb vram.

[franco]

I'm very curious about the results too, how about 5 boxing, 4k display, full screen stacked with VFX viewers on second screen?

I wonder would Titan perform better compared to 2 x 980 SLI cards (or two titans I guess)


I can test for you. How is your config, full screen stacked? Or leave room for VFX viewers? I can do 6 clients @ 4k and report on the stats.
Right now I run 1440p windows in ultra with viewers to the side. Vram is ~ 5gb (don't remember exact number) and gpu load is less than half.
GTA V runs over 90% load and ~ 5.2 gb vram.

[MiRai]

I can test for you. How is your config, full screen stacked? Or leave room for VFX viewers? I can do 6 clients @ 4k and report on the stats.
Right now I run 1440p windows in ultra with viewers to the side. Vram is ~ 5gb (don't remember exact number) and gpu load is less than half.
GTA V runs over 90% load and ~ 5.2 gb vram.
If you're still checking this thread, then I'd like a test to be run. :) The 980 Ti comes out in ~1 week, and I need to know whether 6GB will be a limiting factor for me when running a 2160 resolution. I fear that it will be, but I'd like to make sure before I drop the big dollars on multiple Titan Xs.

I'd like to know the GPU load and VRAM usage in a few different situations (preferably read with GPU-Z (http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/)).

Number of Clients: 5
Resolution: 3840x2160
API: DirectX 11
In-game Presets: Ultra/High/Good
Framerate: 60/30 and 60/20
Location: Draenor (Shadowmoon Valley) (http://i.imgur.com/BK9Sle8.jpg) > Draenor (Nagrand) (http://i.imgur.com/RMDDUyY.jpg) > Pandaria (Jade Forest) (http://i.imgur.com/2XE43cA.jpg) > Elwynn Forest (http://i.imgur.com/1enpdso.jpg) (in order of my preference—you only need to choose one)
Camera Angle: They don't have to be perfectly aligned, but I'd prefer them to be looking in the same direction as whichever location/screenshot you choose, and not zoomed in and staring at the ground. The load on the GPU can change drastically depending on which direction the camera is looking.
Other: Responsiveness/Choppiness of the game clients if you're pushing max load/VRAM, and whether you were running 60/30 or 60/20. Long stuttering? Hard lock-ups for 2-3 seconds? Smooth sailing?

I'd prefer it if you ran around in a circle or something for a moment when testing to let all of the game clients eat up their surrounding area and load it into the VRAM—This will also reveal if there is any stuttering. I will also ask that you log out to the character selection screen after changing in-game video setting presets because I don't know how well the game client is going to flush/purge what it doesn't need in the VRAM when it has so much available, and logging all the way out to the character selection screen should force that to happen.

I think that's it—Thanks. :)



I wonder would Titan perform better compared to 2 x 980 SLI cards (or two titans I guess)
This is a late reply, but seeing as two GTX 980s is only worth 4GB of VRAM, you're probably going to be hitting the limit quicker than you want.

[MiRai]

Updated original post (finally). More to come on June 2nd when both nVidia and AMD reveal what they've got in store at Computex 2015.

[Hor]

I'm really curious to see how the ti compares to 970s in sli. I've been holding off on my
main rig until I see some numbers on the video card battle.

[MiRai]

I'm really curious to see how the ti compares to 970s in sli. I've been holding off on my
main rig until I see some numbers on the video card battle.
Well, if you want to look at the leaks and rumors:

http://wccftech.com/amd-r9-390x-nvidia-gtx-980ti-titanx-benchmarks/

"GM200 Cut" is the 980 Ti in those leaked benchmarks. Whether they're accurate or not is another story. :)

Otherwise, it would seem we have our first leaked review of the 980 Ti from China.

http://vga.zol.com.cn/522/5229872.html

EDIT:

Forbes had an article up, but it was then taken down. The internet went ahead and got a screenshot before that happened:

http://i.imgur.com/tbGTqXg.jpg

Looks like the 980 Ti is on par with the Titan X, but with only ( >_> ) 6GB of VRAM.

[MiRai]

The NDA has been lifted on the 980 Ti and several reviews have been added to the original post. The reference model starts at $650, comes with 6GB of VRAM and is within 5% of the Titan X...

...and I think three of them would look great in my case. >_>

[Lyonheart]

Just ordered one!

Update: So i ordered mine before work. Newegg had several listed "in stock" with a few already listed as "out of stock"..now it just has two and they say "Coming Soon" lol.. did they trick me?

[daanji]

I bought a EVGA 980 Ti 6GB, a huge upgrade from my old 580 GTX 4GB.

GTAV looks amazing, ultra settings 1080p @ 60fps.

Witcher3 looks amazing...so beautiful on ultra settings.

[Lyonheart]

I bought a EVGA 980 Ti 6GB, a huge upgrade from my old 580 GTX 4GB.

GTAV looks amazing, ultra settings 1080p @ 60fps.

Witcher3 looks amazing...so beautiful on ultra settings.

Im playing GTAV on one as well, and a G-Sync ISP monitor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009742&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-LCD+%2f+LED+Monitors-_-N82E16824009742&gclid=CjwKEAjw4-SrBRDP483GvreDr2ASJAD5sCIupvZitOIYucTjZWiGSbygY1Hk 6pkZFZqxHKcuAtedfRoC9N_w_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds) its 2560x1440 144hz and everything looks amazing on it. Playing ESO on max settings as well...looks wonderful! I'm looking forward to firing up my WoW team and seeing how things look on it with that game( g-sync works in windows mode now )

[Hor]

Here's my question, if running at 1080p is the 980 ti worth it for boxing? Or is 970 sli the way to go? I ask, because the price is comparable.

[MiRai]

Here's my question, if running at 1080p is the 980 ti worth it for boxing? Or is 970 sli the way to go? I ask, because the price is comparable.
A single GPU setup is always better than a multi-GPU setup because you don't have to deal with the drawbacks that come with multi-GPU setups. Unless, of course, you're already using a very nice single GPU and you want to upgrade, and the upgrade path of adding in a second GPU is better than just replacing the one you're currently using.

[Hor]

I get that, but my concern is that if you're going to be sticking with 1080p is there a real advantage of using the 980ti over the 970s. The general consensus on regular gaming is that for the money, go 970s if you're in 1080p because you don't need the extra oomph of the ti. However, with boxing I could see it as a potential for needing more overhead than the 970s can provide.

IE if you've already got 2 970s is it worth getting a ti for boxing?

[MiRai]

IE if you've already got 2 970s is it worth getting a ti for boxing?
Probably not.

[franco]

I got 2 Titan X cards for the 4k WOW.

I have 3 monitors, all clients are running stacked on full screen (4K) with isboxer and I have videoFX showing the screens on the second monitor.

If I set all the clients to ultra and go run around in circles in the shadowmoon valley, I'm using 8119MB of VRAM and I'm maxing out the Titan X SLI GPU (runs at 98% according to GPU-Z).

I'm getting 20-30 FPS on the main window. CPU is running at 70%.

It's playable, follow holds, but it's not enjoyable. I'd definitely drop the settings from Ultra to lower on secondary clients.

I'd make a video if I would know how to :)

I hope this helps.



If you're still checking this thread, then I'd like a test to be run. :) The 980 Ti comes out in ~1 week, and I need to know whether 6GB will be a limiting factor for me when running a 2160 resolution. I fear that it will be, but I'd like to make sure before I drop the big dollars on multiple Titan Xs.

I'd like to know the GPU load and VRAM usage in a few different situations (preferably read with GPU-Z (http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/)).

Number of Clients: 5
Resolution: 3840x2160
API: DirectX 11
In-game Presets: Ultra/High/Good
Framerate: 60/30 and 60/20
Location: Draenor (Shadowmoon Valley) (http://i.imgur.com/BK9Sle8.jpg) > Draenor (Nagrand) (http://i.imgur.com/RMDDUyY.jpg) > Pandaria (Jade Forest) (http://i.imgur.com/2XE43cA.jpg) > Elwynn Forest (http://i.imgur.com/1enpdso.jpg) (in order of my preference—you only need to choose one)
Camera Angle: They don't have to be perfectly aligned, but I'd prefer them to be looking in the same direction as whichever location/screenshot you choose, and not zoomed in and staring at the ground. The load on the GPU can change drastically depending on which direction the camera is looking.
Other: Responsiveness/Choppiness of the game clients if you're pushing max load/VRAM, and whether you were running 60/30 or 60/20. Long stuttering? Hard lock-ups for 2-3 seconds? Smooth sailing?

I'd prefer it if you ran around in a circle or something for a moment when testing to let all of the game clients eat up their surrounding area and load it into the VRAM—This will also reveal if there is any stuttering. I will also ask that you log out to the character selection screen after changing in-game video setting presets because I don't know how well the game client is going to flush/purge what it doesn't need in the VRAM when it has so much available, and logging all the way out to the character selection screen should force that to happen.

I think that's it—Thanks. :)



This is a late reply, but seeing as two GTX 980s is only worth 4GB of VRAM, you're probably going to be hitting the limit quicker than you want.

[MiRai]

I got 2 Titan X cards for the 4k WOW.

I have 3 monitors, all clients are running stacked on full screen (4K) with isboxer and I have videoFX showing the screens on the second monitor.

If I set all the clients to ultra and go run around in circles in the shadowmoon valley, I'm using 8119MB of VRAM and I'm maxing out the Titan X SLI GPU (runs at 98% according to GPU-Z).

I'm getting 20-30 FPS on the main window. CPU is running at 70%.

It's playable, follow holds, but it's not enjoyable. I'd definitely drop the settings from Ultra to lower on secondary clients.

I'd make a video if I would know how to :)

I hope this helps.
Thanks. I was actually able to run my own tests, but I hadn't reported back yet. If you disable SSAO entirely you will likely gain a lot of FPS, so I'd recommend doing that at resolutions above 2560x1440.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Isn't it overkill to run all the edge-softening stuff (MSAA/etc.) on 4k?

[MiRai]

Isn't it overkill to run all the edge-softening stuff (MSAA/etc.) on 4k?
I would say it all depends on the game and the pixel density of your display, but I generally enable MSAA 2x/4x just to help catch any extra jagged edges that may still be present.

Personally, I'm pretty sensitive to aliasing and am able to see it almost everywhere I look in the game world, so if I have any extra GPU power available, I'm going to use it for anti-aliasing.

[Hor]

I have a question guys, since there's so many new cards coming out with such a wide variance in terms of ram. Does having more vram benefit boxers? For example, five boxing on 1440 would you see 4g vram as a bottleneck, or would an 8gig vram card be overkill, etc. Just wondering where the sweet spot is atm.

[MiRai]

I have a question guys, since there's so many new cards coming out with such a wide variance in terms of ram. Does having more vram benefit boxers? For example, five boxing on 1440 would you see 4g vram as a bottleneck, or would an 8gig vram card be overkill, etc. Just wondering where the sweet spot is atm.
I'm going to say you should technically be alright with only 4GB as long as you're okay with turning down some settings, or using DX9. High settings in DX11 are going to eat through VRAM very quickly, and I've already been able to push 7GB in 1440 (http://i.imgur.com/SC0BSEj.jpg) (with probably ~700MB - 1,000MB of that being added from Chrome). Now, that's probably a bloated number since a lot of games seem to load things into VRAM, and then not flush them out immediately if there is an excess amount of available VRAM.

[Kayley]

I ditch computers for a year and now i'm a dweeb-
What's all the hubbub surrounding 'HBM' (4GB) vs DDR5 (6-12GB)?

[MiRai]

I ditch computers for a year and now i'm a dweeb-
What's all the hubbub surrounding 'HBM' (4GB) vs DDR5 (6-12GB)?
Not much. HBM is good, but it's not the savior we were hoping for. It's faster than GDDR5, but it's only limited to 4GB, so if you are going to need more than 4GB of VRAM you're going to have to go with nVidia for now.

[Hor]

Unless you get a 390.

[Bollwerk]

I just read this review and thought it might be appropriate to start a thread to discuss the card.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9390/the-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review

My thoughts - Not a bad alternative to the 980 ti, but I would probably still pick Nvidia.

[MiRai]

Unless you get a 390.
The problem with the rest of the 300-series is that it isn't new—It's been re-branded with some extra VRAM. No doubt that if you're on a budget and need the VRAM, then a 390X is on par with a GTX 980 with twice the amount of VRAM.


I just read this review and thought it might be appropriate to start a thread to discuss the card.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9390/the-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review

My thoughts - Not a bad alternative to the 980 ti, but I would probably still pick Nvidia.
I merged your thread with this one since this was meant to be the main GPU discussion thread for now—Somewhere that people can see what everyone is saying about everything. If you really want your thread back, then I can move it back.

I'm also going to update the first post with more information and sticky this thread.

[Dadjitsu]

MiRai , I think this needs an update for 2016
having just watch Nvida's presentation of the new Pascal cards.... just mind blowing good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nanaE-vnjo8
you need to watch all the parts to really get an idea just how good this new card is

[MiRai]

MiRai , I think this needs an update for 2016
having just watch Nvida's presentation of the new Pascal cards.... just mind blowing good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nanaE-vnjo8
you need to watch all the parts to really get an idea just how good this new card is
You're right, the thread needs to be updated, but I was hoping no one would notice while I was procrastinating and waiting for reviews to show up. :)

As for the video, I was home being boring ol' me on a Friday night watching it when they streamed it live, but after reading everything that has been released about it so far, I doubt the GTX 1080 is going to be anymore than 20-30% better than the previous generation (980Ti/Titan-X), which is completely normal, and the first leaked 3DMark Firestrike run shows us just that (http://videocardz.com/59558/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-3dmark-benchmarks). This means that if you have a nicely overclocked 980Ti/TTX, then you really don't need to worry about anything until Big Pascal (GP100) rolls around in Q1 of 2017.

Also, whenever JHH is talking about the GTX 1080 being "twice as fast as a Titan-X" he's referring to an internal nVidia VR benchmark (https://developer.nvidia.com/introducing-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080) that no one but them, at least at this time, can replicate (their Single Pass Stereo technology). So, unless you're going to multiboxing in VR, which might be incredibly cool albeit highly unlikely at this time, I would wait for the NDA on reviews to be lifted this Tuesday (5/17) before anyone starts canceling birthdays, anniversaries, or family vacations so that they can put aside $700 in order to grab a Founder's Edition GTX 1080 (AKA reference card (https://youtu.be/LJ0AoYSH01g?t=2m49s)), because that's all that is going to be available at launch (http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/a-quantum-leap-in-gaming:-nvidia-introduces-geforce-gtx-1080).

I'm not trying to sound bitter, I'm honestly not, because I have obviously been buying nVidia GPUs for years now, but there are a lot of people who, after watching that event, are spreading a lot of fud and misinformation around as if the GTX 1080 is going to just decimate everything in existence as we know it... which I have a very difficult time believing based upon the launch of every GPU family over the course of the last 6 years, and also knowing how much nVidia likes to milk the shit out of people for their money. Again, the NDA for the GTX 1080 lifts on the 17th of this month (next Tuesday), and that should definitely let everyone know, myself included, where the GPU stands in terms of performance.

Quotes from my sources (in order):


The second benchmark we have is from FireStrike Extreme, which as you probably already know is rendered at 2560×1440 resolution. This is actually the first benchmark where you will see 1.860 GHz clock. In this scenario GTX 1080 (8959) is faster than typical overclocked GTX 980 Ti (~8700 points). However if we compare it GTX 980 Ti running at almost the same frequency (1.8GHz with LN2 cooling), GTX 1080 is actually much slower clock to clock.


There are several new technologies in the Pascal architecture to improve the performance of graphics rendering for VR applications. These allow the GeForce GTX 1080 to perform up to 2x faster than the GeForce GTX TITAN X for VR Applications.


"So, what is it? Well, when press got a chance to do Q&A with the staff over at nVidia, we kept asking, "So, what's the difference between the Founder's Edition card and the $599 card?" And the answer was: Nothing."


The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 "Founders Edition" will be available on May 27 for $699. It will be available from ASUS, Colorful, EVGA, Gainward, Galaxy, Gigabyte, Innovision 3D, MSI, NVIDIA. Palit, PNY and Zotac.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I'm not trying to sound bitter, I'm honestly not, because I have obviously been buying nVidia GPUs for years now, but there are a lot of people who, after watching that event, are spreading a lot of fud and misinformation around as if the GTX 1080 is going to just decimate everything in existence as we know it... which I have a very difficult time believing based upon the launch of every GPU family over the course of the last 6 years, and also knowing how much nVidia likes to milk the shit out of people for their money. Again, the NDA for the GTX 1080 lifts on the 17th of this month (next Tuesday), and that should definitely let everyone know, myself included, where the GPU stands in terms of performance.

I'd like to present my visual interpretation of (i.e. agreement with) that paragraph:

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[Hor]

I'm honestly thinking I will either go dual 1070s later, or grab a secondhand 980 TI and SLI with the one I already run since it's not like they're going to suddenly suck.

[MiRai]

I'm going to close this thread so that we can start fresh in the new sticky that was put up about a week ago to avoid confusion.

http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/52942-Upcoming-GPUs-(2016)