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Vyndree
03-31-2008, 10:43 AM
I see you played alot of AV this weekend. ;)

There are several posts on the Stormstrike forums telling me this. ;)

Eteocles
03-31-2008, 10:50 AM
Do quote, do quote! I needs me some entertainment :p

Vyndree
03-31-2008, 11:31 AM
There are maybe 4-5 @Mudd threads. ;)

Here's a sample:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5591050830&sid=1

I've read that what Muddwhite, etc. does is legal......but how? Every AV that he is in gives an unfair advantage. I don't see how it is fair to anyone to allow him to even play at all, let alone in bgs. And yes, I am QQing because he just stomped us in AV.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4184980172&sid=1

Interesting thing tonight. 5-ish warlocks, all in same gear, all undead all with names like Muddwhite, Muddred, Muddgreen,...all with only the level 40 mount.

They were in a AB with a ton of other scilia peeps..in fact..all 15 were people from SCilia. They moved at the same time, cast spells at the same time..its as if one person was running 5 people.

It's bad enough to have people doing crap like that, but for scilia people to embrace this kind of blatant support of cheating by likely gold farmers...its a sad day.

Oh well, we won. a 15 man server pug from a PvP server couldn't beat a 10premade+5 PVE raid guild...thats almost sadder

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5623173681&sid=1

OK mudd thats is some kind of BS that your pulling in AV with haveing 5 warlocks linked together. Nothing like you pressing a button and I have 5 seed of corruptions, and 5 fell hounds on me and 5 of what ever dots you have on me. Blizz if this is not an exploit I dont' know what is.

This one was actually quite good: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5640745188&sid=1

First of all let me say that being a multiboxer is not an advantage in BG's. If he mows you down its your own fault for not knowing how to fight. A multiboxer is far more vulnerable than a coordinated team.

Let me say that I do not have experience with software multiboxing but I very much doubt these rules will change.

#1 The most important rule is to make sure everyone is on the same page as to which character is the "main view" all multiboxers have a main (its the one the characters are following). You kill the main and he has to make some type of change to adapt. The better the multiboxer the faster he can adapt to this change. If you assume the main multiboxer is using WASD to move then you can also assume that all the characters on follow have to have their movement keys binded to something else otherwise they would not stay on follow now would they? This change may hinder the multiboxer or it may just be a minor inconveniance it all depends on how good the multiboxer is.....and yes its very hard to be a great multiboxer. Pay attention to the change that happens as another character will now become the main. Focus that one next. Announce it in bg chat.

#2 Keep a sharp eye for a dedicated healer. Do not assume that a dedicated healer has to be from the multiboxers server. Some healers love to follow a multiboxer just for fun. Its the one that doesnt dismount until the multiboxer dismounts. If the healer is from a different server than the multiboxer then its probably safe to use any CC. If its a healer from the same server then the multiboxer might have special macros to remove the CC. Use a CC the multiboxer can not remove or send a rogue or 2 to keep the healer occupied.

#3 Do not approach a multiboxer on foot in his direct view. Even if you can go immune, pally/mage/rogue etc you should still not attempt it. If hes coming directly for you and you need to hold your ground you have 2 options. A. Line of sight. B. Charge in on mount or use an ability to get in his face quick. For god sakes don't stand there 30 yards away trying to cast a spell. He will melt your face period.

#4 The primary weakness to all multiboxers is CC. Pay attention to what the multiboxers abilities are. A good multiboxer will be prepared to use every ability to their advantage in very coordinated macros. For example if you remember what happened when you sheeped Rezo a different priest would just dispel it. So if you see Mudd running around with a bunch of felhunters you have to assume he has them coordinated in different routines to dispel any magic he needs.

#5 Remember CC is not limited to just abilities that make you lose control of your character. Nothing is more annoying to a multiboxer than seperation. Remember they are on follow if one character gets snared/rooted the entire train has to slow down or the follow is going to break. Its very easy for a multiboxer not to notice in a busy situation. So go ahead throw a Curse of Exhaustion on that guy in the back as he passes by!

#6 If you have an Area ability then pay close attention to the characters. No area effect is worth it if it breaks a CC that the multiboxer can not remove easily.

#7 Rogues are the bane of a multiboxer playing caster classes. A good and annoying tactic is to sap the character in the back. If the multiboxer is on foot its very likely he will notice the sap so dont expect to follow it up with anything unless you got some support in the area. If hes on a mount he may not notice it depending on how distracted he is. The perfect time to sap the guy in the back is as he is passing by a few alliance. Follow up with a blind on another and vanish and begin a stunlock on the main character. If he has an instant CC then its coming very soon from one of the alternate characters that is not CC'd. Prepare to trinket then cloak of shadows because if 1 instant CC hit you then another one can hit you with the click of a button as your already targetted.

You can also distract to attempt to seperate but thats not going to work on a good multiboxer.

#8 Warriors can also wreck a multiboxers train. All you have to do is find another warrior in your BG and coordinate intimidating shouts.

#9 If the multiboxer is a shaman then seperate. Do not stand close together! get away from each other. If you are a pet class then use your totem macro to take out the grounding/tremor totems. If you are a pet class and you do not have a totem macro YOU FAIL.

#10 If the multiboxer is a DOT class then dispel if you can. Setup a simple macro to 'dispel target's target' then target the main character in the multibox train and push the button over and over. This will constantly dispel the correct person over and over and over unless the multiboxer is specifically attempting to avoid it.


Happy Hunting
- A former multiboxer.

Djarid
03-31-2008, 11:40 AM
That last one is a very good post.

I learned a lot from it - how to avoid some of the pitfalls ;)

Skuggomann
03-31-2008, 11:54 AM
It seams as every ones first action in a MMORPG is to wine, instead fo getting your guildees and GANK! XD

its saad rilly :S

Maxion
03-31-2008, 12:41 PM
Quoted for righteous fun truth: "For god sakes don't stand there 30 yards away trying to cast a spell. He will melt your face period."

Eteocles
03-31-2008, 12:44 PM
I lol'd...melt away mudd, BBQ Ignorant Whiner is quite the delicacy ;)

Diamndzngunz
03-31-2008, 12:44 PM
People love to cry, why? Because they cannot do it.

I am waiting until I get my @ posts.

Eteocles
03-31-2008, 12:48 PM
I never get any @ posts from my World PVP even when I sit around camping towns lowbies and FPs for a full day straight...noone ever whines about me =( Maybe they're afraid to admit a Boomkin decimated their sorry asses lol, or maybe I'm not being unfair enough to warrant whining..I should start ganking midfight and with all 3 boomkin alts instead >D I haven't done enough BGs I think to get any from that though...I've done a few AVs and have been focusing on lvling still, maybe once I'm 70 and hit an AV Weekend we'll see some fun ;D

Mudd
03-31-2008, 01:19 PM
>_<; Just when you thought you were done the honor grind 2.4 comes out and our AV queue times go from 2 hours down to <1 min. Yes, I played A LOT of AV since Tuesday so there are many allies seeing the Muddlocks for the first time. The only day I didn't AV was when I racked up 1200 HKs on the Isle of Quel'Danas. I've probably set back our server progress by 10% on phase 2 by ruthlessly ganking allies. Its all fun and most Scilla allies are good sports about it and group up for some revenge.

Hope I'm not bringing any negative attention to multiboxers by spawning all these threads. The awareness of multiboxers on the WoW forums (at least Stormstrike) is getting better. On the bright side, the allies who roll level 1 hordies on our server are more multibox aware and want to chat and ask questions instead of curse and act childish.

As always Vyndree pops in all the threads to speak for the multiboxers and lay down the facts. I think she deserves a special title!

Eteocles
03-31-2008, 01:54 PM
In BGs do whatever the hell you want as long as it's not exploitative ;p That's the whole point, gangrape people and their bases till you win lol; those threads are no different from the normal boxer QQ threads, normal and unfounded ignorance, don't worry about it =) If anything it's more entertainment for us ;D

Bigfish
03-31-2008, 01:54 PM
dw1w
That last one is a very good post.

I learned a lot from it - how to avoid some of the pitfalls ;)Yeah, that last post was one of the better educated anti-boxer thread. Most of the time its really simply stuff like "fear them" or "kill the brain".

Jaws5
03-31-2008, 04:17 PM
They are so lucky you do not run with 4 locks and a shadow priest. On a pvp server that is sooo fun. Hmmmmm need to do less pve content and go back to pvp server

The IT Monkey
03-31-2008, 06:02 PM
For god sakes don't stand there 30 yards away trying to cast a spell. He will melt your face period. I think you are looking at my new sig.... god that line had so much win.