Alt-itis has got me already.. 5 x Warlocks.

[fightcow]

I have thoroughly enjoyed my main 5paladin wod team but even after the first few days of being 100 i started thinking about my next wod team!
Decided to go with 5 x warlocks again! i think they will struggle in wod, especially after they took drainlife out of the destro spec, in fact they hurt locks in some other ways i cant remember too... so will be a challenge.

92 now, and the thing ive noticed is they are so immobile compared to the prot paladins! its nasty, they feel so clunky..
Im hoping that the new L100 talent 'demonic servitude' will make the difference as current mobile dps is poop.
Blew my 90boosts on the locks too as i wanted to be horde and also couldnt be bothered to level my 89 alliance locks.
hope i dont regret it.

[ebony]

i played on beta (i do love my Gnomes) but can not say i really enjoyed them to be fair.

I have been thinking about 5 rouge gnomes.

as am not happy with the deathkights as i started playing them.

[Mokoi]

What don't you like about the Dks? I have 7 DKs and 3 paladins and they are amazing. they were utterly destructive in world PvP, and quested SO fast and easily.

I am doing druids now, mosg says they rock, so I follow him. he hasn't been wrong yet.
ever.
since i met him.
damn him.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I did 3 demonology locks, disc priest, mage as my alt team. They did pretty well but hunters have completely spoiled me for farming.

[fightcow]

97 now.
They gettin' better.. i think..

im quite anxious about stepping into that first L100 instance...im dreading getting that sinking feeling when you face the first boss and your team wipes before you even got your dps going and you think 'nope, this aint gonna work' :D

[Andreauk]

I did 3 demonology locks, disc priest, mage as my alt team. They did pretty well but hunters have completely spoiled me for farming.

I have a disc Priest with x3 Hunters, my other half is bear tank.. I just can't have anything other than Hunters now.. they can just keep on attacking even when we're running to avoid stuff.

[ebony]

I have a disc Priest with x3 Hunters, my other half is bear tank.. I just can't have anything other than Hunters now.. they can just keep on attacking even when we're running to avoid stuff.


[offtopic] did you not quit boxing /confused


With deathkights i find the dungeons very hard at 60 with cloth gear. So might have to wait for loombox in 6.1

oh though ill be playing hunters gnomes when we get them!

[Andreauk]

[offtopic] did you not quit boxing /confused


With deathkights i find the dungeons very hard at 60 with cloth gear. So might have to wait for loombox in 6.1

oh though ill be playing hunters gnomes when we get them!

Yeah I did quit, but me and my other half made brand new accounts to start it all from scratch - turning out to be more fun now I have so much to do... and having him to do it with.

I'm playing x4 Female Taurens lol

[moosejaw]

I'm playing x4 Female Taurens lol

My first WoW character was a Female Tauren Hunter. Got stuck on every doorway in Booty Bay. :)

[Ughmahedhurtz]

My first WoW character was a Female Tauren Hunter. Got stuck on every doorway in Booty Bay. :)
They don't call it Booty Bay for nothing.... ;)

[fightcow]

finally got 100.
Thought id start at SMBG as i think thats the first endgame dungeon i did with the paladins.

First boss was easier with locks.
second and third were a cakewalk, again.
nerzhul was a bugger, again :)
Trash was harder with the locks!

Locks were ave i602.8 fresh out of nagrand.
not sure on my ilevels with the paladins, wish id recorded it, but i suspect it was a bit lower.
Im going to record my ilvl for completion with the locks, as a future comparison for myself and anyone else who is interested.

i do have pics, ~500kb, but cant upload as says exceeds my quota.

[fightcow]

I said in my orig post that i hoped DS would make a big difference, it is an L100 talent after all.
nope. Its garbage.
im having good results using affliction with the haunt L100 for bosses.
I really want to do everbloom with them but im just not getting any time to play atm as the kids are on 'holiday bedtimes' now so cant get rid of the buggers :)

edit. 1am and Finally tried everbloom with the warlocks.
well the rest of the instance was easier with the warlocks but still i cannot complete :(
The nearest i came was to remain mounted and try to avoid everything and i can actually run over most of the 'petals' that way, but still end up with at least 5 or 6 (with 500k hp each) plus the other adds and the boss and though the npc's sort of help its still overwhelming.

[heyaz]

death knights, based on comparison to last expansion and some suitable alternative comps, are pretty much garbage right now....

[fightcow]

cant get past ravenwing(?) in ubrs because the melee pets wont attack him unless i spam the attack button, and even then they dont move, usually just stay right at the entrance to the bridge and they wont hold aggro so the squishy little warlocks get squished..
The ranged pets attack better, still not right, but they dont hold aggro so i die anyway.
Another bug that is stopping my progress with this otherwise fun team.
Getting a bit disheartened now.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

cant get past ravenwing(?) in ubrs because the melee pets wont attack him unless i spam the attack button, and even then they dont move, usually just stay right at the entrance to the bridge and they wont hold aggro so the squishy little warlocks get squished..
Did you try doing the pet "Go To to location" thing to move them over to the boss and then attack? Talking a bit out of my ass here as I haven't done UBRS at 100 yet but that might get them close enough to function. :p

[fightcow]

Did you try doing the pet "Go To to location" thing to move them over to the boss and then attack? Talking a bit out of my ass here as I haven't done UBRS at 100 yet but that might get them close enough to function. :p

yes, but they just dont behave normally and they dont gain aggro. Its as if the boss treats them as being out of range and so focuses on my locks.
Oddly, the pets do seem to hit the boss, and when the voids auto taunt or i manually taunt it flashes the taunt anim above the boss and he turns toward the pets but he still attacks my locks.
The only time they attack correctly is at the start of the first time i attack ragewing when he flies up from under the bridge, then the pets take some damage, maybe 2 or 3 hits worth, before they 'freeze up' and become out of range.

Maybe it will get fixed, i did find a thread on the official forums with a hunter complaining about his pet not attacking ragewing. i might start my own, but i wont mention multiboxing as we are generally misunderstood by the unwashed masses :)

Im just going to press on and gear up for heroics where there's a few more dungeons to try. I can live with it just being the 2 i have to skip as tbh i didnt expect to be able to complete every dungeon with 5locks, although i wasnt expecting it to be due to bugs.

[fightcow]

i did burial grounds hc at i616-617 with the locks and then ran out of steam!

5 x druids now :)
all at 92, so wont be long.

i knew i never grew out of my adhd !

[Mercurio]

Cool, fightcow, keep the updates coming.

Ya know, with just five more accounts you could level ten in the same time it takes to level five. Just think, you could make teams of hunters and rogues at the same time!

Wait... I see now that I am only contributing to the disease. :(

[fightcow]

Cool, fightcow, keep the updates coming.

Ya know, with just five more accounts you could level ten in the same time it takes to level five. Just think, you could make teams of hunters and rogues at the same time!

Wait... I see now that I am only contributing to the disease. :(

haha!
you do have a point though..

no, i cant. i mustnt.

[Andreauk]

Saame here.. I really want to but I best not.. well not if I want to remain in my relationship lol

[fightcow]

if only wow would go freetoplay like pretty much every other mmo out there! bam! 10chars, done. In fact, id probably invest in some new hardware and go to 25.. may as well :)

[Ughmahedhurtz]

if only wow would go freetoplay like pretty much every other mmo out there! bam! 10chars, done. In fact, id probably invest in some new hardware and go to 25.. may as well :)

Careful what you wish for. If they go F2P, they may just ban multiboxing more than two characters for non-subbed accounts.

[MiRai]

if only wow would go freetoplay like pretty much every other mmo out there! bam! 10chars, done. In fact, id probably invest in some new hardware and go to 25.. may as well :)

Careful what you wish for. If they go F2P, they may just ban multiboxing more than two characters for non-subbed accounts.
Not to derail the thread too much, this is really my biggest concern if/when the game offers an actual F2P model that can "impact" others. My suggestion to Blizzard would be to disable the /follow command on all accounts which do not have an active subscription, or they can easily expect people to abuse the shit out of multiboxing. I'm sure we're still okay for now since I'm sure they do like the millions of people paying X amount of dollars each month instead of a F2P model.

[fightcow]

hadnt thought of it like that.
I officially retract my wish.

[fightcow]

ok 5 x feral druids L100 and almost rdy to go.. as with my paladins, i somehow i managed to get to 100 without getting them all above i595 - i think its cos i use xp pots.

Cant wait to get started with the cats!
Balance was best for levelling but by god its dull.

[Mercurio]

Will be interested to see your thoughts on which class is easiest to go through dungeons with (assuming equalish gear scores).

BTW, do you have active garrisons and followers running on all these toons? That's a stupid simple way to gear them up once they are rolling, but I am thinking I'd shoot myself before I got all of those garrisons set up.

[fightcow]

Will be interested to see your thoughts on which class is easiest to go through dungeons with (assuming equalish gear scores).

BTW, do you have active garrisons and followers running on all these toons? That's a stupid simple way to gear them up once they are rolling, but I am thinking I'd shoot myself before I got all of those garrisons set up.

Easiest... hmm.. i dunno really, i suppose it used to be any 'healer-tank-3dps' but i havent run a team like that for years and nowadays with all the movement and also the healing nerf id imagine even that is a bit trickier.
I only run 5x samechar thesedays: paladins were easier than warlocks. I think 5cats is going to be tricky (no tank).
edit: 4dks+priest was my most successful wotlk team. Plus 5 hunters was good even then, should be better now by all accounts.

As for garrisons - i cant stand them. i dont do anything with them other than make dps pots. And im saddened by the way you can get good gear from them just from a boring grind. i avoid the apex crystals gear too.
Im not interested in gearing up tbh, i would be if it were possible to get really good gear from dungeons, but seeing as even quest drops (i got an ilvl632 chest yesterday) can be better than heroic dungeon drops i have lost all interest.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Garrisons are, IMO, hugely worthwhile. My caster group and hunter group are almost all at 625+ average gear levels with several 650+ pieces and they haven't set foot in anything but Slag Mines and Skyreach normals (I'm working on achievements on the 5x Prot Paladin group at the moment). The paladins are also 615+ now and I've yet to set foot in a single WoD dungeon with them.

It gets to 615+ pretty quick, and yes it's a lot of work up front. Once your followers are up to epic level mostly and you have several of them at 645+, good gear starts dropping frequently.

And the flood of greens from large crates is nifty, too.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/garona/Telane/simple

[fightcow]

Garrisons are, IMO, hugely worthwhile. My caster group and hunter group are almost all at 625+ average gear levels with several 650+ pieces and they haven't set foot in anything but Slag Mines and Skyreach normals (I'm working on achievements on the 5x Prot Paladin group at the moment). The paladins are also 615+ now and I've yet to set foot in a single WoD dungeon with them.

It gets to 615+ pretty quick, and yes it's a lot of work up front. Once your followers are up to epic level mostly and you have several of them at 645+, good gear starts dropping frequently.

And the flood of greens from large crates is nifty, too.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/garona/Telane/simple

Thats fair enough, it depends what your multiboxing goals are?
If you want to gear up as fast as possible so you can raid then i totally agree that garrisons and apex crystals are the path of least resistance by far.

But for me i box for the fun of doing instances with my team, my spec, my tactics and as low ilvl as possible, so obviously getting a 5 man team at 630+ without having set foot in the instances is the antithesis of my goals.

[fightcow]

The cats are great... for trash.
as expected i suppose.
But the lack of a tank is a problem when facing bosses.
as expected i suppose :)
Get caught by a boss crit and some splash damage and its one dead kitty.

The healing is great:
rejuv x 5,
insta heals after finishers - plus the finisher itself heals for 7.5% hp
also duplicate self heal when healing another

and so long as they are alive i can top them all off pretty quick and while moving (this was the reason behind this team)

but there's no healing a dead cat :/

so i may have to have a bear in the mix for those harder hitting bosses.. which makes me feel all dirty, and it wasnt the plan so it feels like failure.
However, I will see how much content i can manage with 5 cats.

[Andreauk]

It's only a failure if the boss doesn't die.. even if all 5 of mine were dead I dont care so long as the boss is too :) Nothing wrong with a little adaptation.. it's already more difficult as a boxer.

I was thinking of x4 Boomkin with a Hunter.. I have a Boomkin druid already at 100 and I love playing her.

[fightcow]

It's only a failure if the boss doesn't die.. even if all 5 of mine were dead I dont care so long as the boss is too :) Nothing wrong with a little adaptation.. it's already more difficult as a boxer.

I was thinking of x4 Boomkin with a Hunter.. I have a Boomkin druid already at 100 and I love playing her.

oh hell yeh nothing wrong with a few deaths, many a time ive only had one guy left when the boss finally drops. worse is when the boss has about 2k health left when your last man drops ! thats happened several times :)

The cats are hard. Trying to spread my hots during energy downtime, and work in other stuff to keep whoever has aggro alive.
A taunt in cat form would be heaven: The ret paladins worked cos they had a taunt so at least i could control who was taking the majority of the damage, so thats a bummer for the cats.

ive been spoiled by the warlocks - just letting the voids handle the tanking was bliss, all i had to do was dps and move (despite blizzards best efforts to make casters less mobile!)

maybe i will go back to the locks.
i love dots.
The most fun i ever had in an mmo was playing a bonedancer in DAoC when they were new! dots and a personal army of healers! so OP in battlegrounds :)

[fightcow]

tried a few things:

4 resto + bear, wrath spam(20% extra dps and 150% heal) = safe, but rubbish dps.
5 resto setup hots/mushrooms/treants and then pop cat for dps phase - solid dps but no burst and too fiddly and not fun and lack of aggro control is fatal on boss.
5 resto same as above but with a bear - tedious.

settled on 4 feral cats and 1 gaurdian bear:
i suppose its only a slightly watered down version of 5cats regarding dps, what makes it fun is the insane burst from pot+trinket+tigers+berserk+HOW!

not sure how long i will stick at it, patience starting to wear thin.

[Andreauk]

Go 4 hunters with a healer (healing pets is easy with their dmg reduction).. so much mobility and so much fun.. plus pets cover buffs.. you know you want to :p

My Horde team is x3 Hunters, Ele sham and a Druid because I hate not being able to use the dungeon finder.. for my Aly I may go 2 Hunters as tanks, and x3 Boomkins.. I wonder if x3 Ysera's gift and the stacking hots would be enough though.. I dislike getting a team to max level to find I hate it.

[fightcow]

well ive just done 5 warlocks so i think hunters would be a bit too similar. Plus i have done 5 hunters before, albeit in wotlk.
yseras gift is helpful but not especially useful when the real damage starts coming. I use cenarion ward.
Im using 4 ferals; they get some good healing boosts and also get a clone heal for themselves when they heal others, so the Hots are fine for general damage but you will definately need extra mitigation for spikes - i use 5 x cenarion ward which is like a 100% heal/6s and also all 5 chars generate a free healingtouch about once in 10s.

The dungeon finder is handy for sure but tbh theres pretty good flight links to within 30sec of most instances, and i tend to work on them one at a time anyway so i really havent found it that bad. Seems a shame to let it limit the teams you create :)

whats interesting to me about your 2pet class + 3 druids is ive actually never tried using proper healing on pets!
The voids have some awesome mitigation abilities and i got by on slinging them an insta 36% heal every 15s (affliction - glyphed&soulsharded heal) but chucking hots on them too would likely make for some bad-ass tanks. Id imagine its similar for the hunter pets.
I would defo try a team with a single void tank if they had aoe aggro abilities.. why dont they ffs!?

youve got me thinking though :)

edit: i managed grimrail@i604 with the bear+cats yesterday. Not great, its been a steep learning curve with this team, but im getting the hang of it now so maybe theres hope after all.

[Andreauk]

Healing pets feels like super cheating.. it's soo much easier than healing a real tank :) the Hunters win over Locks for me because every bit of dps matters, and being able to do full dps while moving is just too good to miss.

[fightcow]

Healing pets feels like super cheating.. it's soo much easier than healing a real tank :) the Hunters win over Locks for me because every bit of dps matters, and being able to do full dps while moving is just too good to miss.

its precisely because hunters are considered so strong right now that puts me off using them.. im weird like that :)

destroyed the burial grounds with me cats! (well actually i died quite a lot on nerzul but that guy is always a bugger!)
just ubrs to go and then its herioc time.

[ebony]

if only gnomes could be hunters :( i think i would play them

[Andreauk]

if only gnomes could be hunters :( i think i would play them

They will be able to soon :)

[Andreauk]

its precisely because hunters are considered so strong right now that puts me off using them.. im weird like that :)

destroyed the burial grounds with me cats! (well actually i died quite a lot on nerzul but that guy is always a bugger!)
just ubrs to go and then its herioc time.

I like low repair bills :p

I just can't melee - I have tried and get so stressed when one decides to leg it off.

[fightcow]

I like low repair bills :p

I just can't melee - I have tried and get so stressed when one decides to leg it off.

well im not saying hunters are easy, nothing is easy when it comes to boxing, you will die just like the rest! hunters or no :)

[Andreauk]

I'm saying Hunters are much easier than anything else I have run with :)

[Asterix]

With the hunters I'm always low on focus. AOE is a PITA because this AOE shot needs tons of focus.

On low level enemies / farming old content the pets sometimes kill enemies without I can do some
damage on them (b/c low focus) therefore I don't get loot.

Yes you can move while DPS but imho nothing beats a Shadow-Priest + 2 / 4 Affliction-Warlock
combination. You can just run through an army of enemies, instant-DOTs on them, spam Seed
of Corruption and wait until everything explodes within seconds.

[Andreauk]

On low level enemies / farming old content the pets sometimes kill enemies without I can do some
damage on them (b/c low focus) therefore I don't get loot.

That's what lone wolf is good for :)

[Asterix]

either that or just dismissing your pet :-)

but that still doesn't solve the missing AOE abilites / focus problem.

[Andreauk]

either that or just dismissing your pet :-)

but that still doesn't solve the missing AOE abilites / focus problem.

Dismissing my pet wouldn't work for me with BM.. kill command would be useless. I run lone wolf surv as offspec.
Using cobra to build focus isn't a problem.. Hunter's would be totally out of control if they could spam aoe non-stop.

BM beast cleave is fairly decent, put that with fire trap and some multi-shots and things die fine for me. I also put all pets in tank spec and they have aoe from that too.

[fightcow]

ubrs done easily.
gearing up for heroics now, gonna start with iron docks.
This team is proving quite good :)

[fightcow]

...and i havent logged my teams since...
I knew i was approaching burnout. Thats how it goes for me, the desire to log in evaporates.
Was great fun. I hate it when i get bored of something. I really miss the escapism.

Ive been doing some solo pvp, not sure how long that will hold my attention.

Need a new game now... the division looks promising :)