pc for 5 boxing

[Shania]

Hello!

Looks like I am going to go for a new pc for myself soon! YaY!

5 boxing as usual.

Not much $$$ to use as I also need to buy my 17 yr old daughter a new box as well.

Mine I am looking at this:

Which out of these 3 will benefit me the most, or are they all kind of the same other then slight price differences

Intel Core i7 4790 3.6GHz (LGA - 1150)

Intel Core i7 4790K 4.0GHz (LGA - 1150)

Intel Quad Core Xeon E3 1271V 3.6GHz (LGA - 1150)

Graphics:

Gainward 4GB GTX 760 PCI <-- will this be enough to have least maybe high settings as a minimum ?

Memory: no real idea, quite a few different kinds: G.Skill Sniper 16 GB Kit (8Gx2) DDR3 1600 Memory

SSD: not sure differences, like Kingston V300 240G and Sandisk Ultra II 240G

Obviously I want decent fps, without lag/stutter when running around doing various things in crowded areas on x5 characters.

Suggestions, help would be appreciated.

Oh with memory, what am I looking at/for, in regards too?

1600/1866/2133/2400

[Wubsie]

I Would also be interested in hearing opinnions from some of the tech-minded people here about this. Old rig is held together by ducktape and wishful thinking and I'm hoping to upgrade to a new but somewhat budget build for my 5-box. Haven't built one in years so sort of out of the loop on hardware.

[rfarris]

Both of you should consider a 6-core processor. My FPS went up dramatically once I had at least as many cores as I had game instances.

I think MiRai will tell you that of all the things you mentioned, the SPEED of your RAM will be pretty insignificant.

[Shania]

Both of you should consider a 6-core processor. My FPS went up dramatically once I had at least as many cores as I had game instances.

I think MiRai will tell you that of all the things you mentioned, the SPEED of your RAM will be pretty insignificant.

This is exactly the kind of feed back I am looking for.

And where hell is MiRai, hurry up gimme some good advice :)

This is why I posted, so this time when I do spend the money for build a better pc, I want it done right, as much as possible, to get the most out of my boxing, x5.

So your saying, 6 core processor you referring to then this: Intel 6 Core i7-5820K ?
If so, what kind of motherboard do I need for it ?

And was graphics card above fine as well ?

[JohnGabriel]

I wonder if MiRai can build us our gaming systems in his basement shop?

[MiRai]

Calm down, people... calm down. I saw the thread and knew I needed time to get some stuff together. There will likely be a new post here later today with some information. Until then, read this (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/51424-Opinions-on-new-i7-and-MBs-for-a-new-build?p=391830&viewfull=1#post391830) to hold you over.

EDIT: Sorry, I got caught up in doing other things tonight and couldn't dedicate time to writing a well thought out forum post.

[Shania]

Thanks MiRai, I was nosing over that thread you linked, and was making me re-think options.

Was looking at Lyonheart's build, and was thinking of something similar, after reading all your post.
Except mine would not be same cpu, was more looking at:

Intel 6 Core i7-5820K unless for some reason, middle range one is way more important for whatever reason ?

Intel 6 Core i7-5820K is do-able, depending on what m/b I need and cost, and then ram, and graphics card can be upped to probably something like:

4G GTX 770
3G GTX 780

roughly around $450 max for a card in $AU for me anyway.

If it means I have an extra 1 month delay to buy something that is going to suit my purpose properly, and not buy something and regret it later, as I dont have that kind of money too play with, so I want it to be right first time, even if I need to wait an extra month to add in some extra $$ then that is fine by me.

[Shania]

Okay reading alot, and looking at something like this, prices are roughly.

Intel 6 Core i7-5820K $459 - the 5930k is more expensive, is there much of a difference at all between those 2, will i tmake a huge difference to me, or slight or not really ?
Samsung 840 EVO 500g SSD $259
Graphics card $400-$600 or there abouts. I was looking at lynherts he mentioned a gtx ti, I see a 3g GTX 780 ti and some others higher or lower numbers beside them, what do I actually need, benefit me the most, for around my price.
motherboard Ausrock X99 Extreme 4 $290 or Extreme 3, does it matter much ? I saw some others way way more expensive not sure if it will benefit me in anyway more, I do not plan too sli etc :/
ram ? 16 gig, DDR4 - 2133 $319
case totally love this, hope m/b fits ? http://www.thermaltake.com.au/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002143
psu ? - noidea, actually how is it even worked out in what watt you need ?

700watt ? and cpu cooler ?
graphics card, suggestions please be nice!

[rfarris]

The next time I replace my case I'm going to get one like MiRai's that has vertically mounted cards. That makes so much sense.

[Shania]

what case is it ?

[MiRai]

Since you did the research, this makes my reply much easier. ;)


Intel 6 Core i7-5820K $459 - the 5930k is more expensive, is there much of a difference at all between those 2, will i tmake a huge difference to me, or slight or not really ?
No difference unless you expect to be plugging a lot of expansion cards (GPUs, raid cards, sound cards, etc) into the PCIe slots.


Graphics card $400-$600 or there abouts. I was looking at lynherts he mentioned a gtx ti, I see a 3g GTX 780 ti and some others higher or lower numbers beside them, what do I actually need, benefit me the most, for around my price.
Right now, the sweet spot is the GTX 970 which should be about $500 AUD. The next step up is obviously the GTX 980 which looks to be about 50% more expensive, but it doesn't come with 50% more performance over the 970.


motherboard Ausrock X99 Extreme 4 $290 or Extreme 3, does it matter much ? I saw some others way way more expensive not sure if it will benefit me in anyway more, I do not plan too sli etc :/
If you never plan for SLI, then the Extreme3 looks to be just fine. Otherwise, you'll want the Extreme4.


case totally love this, hope m/b fits ? http://www.thermaltake.com.au/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002143
The motherboard will fit just fine.


cpu cooler ?
An all-in-one (AIO) water cooling solution would probably be your best bet, and the case you've chosen even states that it's fully compatible with one:

Enables user to build a complete high-end solution including a 240mm radiator liquid cooling system
You might be able to get away with a 120mm cooler, but you'll probably want something like a Corsair H105 (http://www.mwave.com.au/product/corsair-hydro-series-h105-liquid-cpu-cooler-ab53459).


psu ? - noidea, actually how is it even worked out in what watt you need ? 700watt ?
I normally just look at how much system-wide power is recommended for the GPU and then tack on 100-200W. Assuming you go with the GTX 970, it calls for 500W system-wide (http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-970/specifications); so, 750-850W should be more than enough.


Samsung 840 EVO 500g SSD $259
If you're going with the EVO, then check for a firmware update for the drive when you get the system up and running. You may not need the update, but Samsung's Magician software will check that for you.


ram ? 16 gig, DDR4 - 2133 $319
You'll want to go with 4x4GB rather than 2x8GB so you can take advantage of HW-E's quad-channel memory. If you want to upgrade and increase the amount of RAM in the future, you will most likely be limited to only being able to install another 4x4GB for a total of 32GB.

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The next time I replace my case I'm going to get one like MiRai's that has vertically mounted cards. That makes so much sense.

what case is it ?
It's a Silverstone FT02B-W (http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=242). You can see it up close in either of my build videos (01 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHO91mG41So) / 02 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IzzNeX2hQc)).

[Shania]

Thank You very much Mirai, for your responses, appreciate it.

I ordered my mother board, as extreme 4/cpu water cooler as suggested by you/case and a rom.

Rest of the parts are all bought as bulk middle of next month.... waaaaa the waiting !! Actually I think it is exactly 1 week AFTER Wod has gone live!
Either way, exciting and thrilling and cannot wait to be able too run my x5 properly once again.
Even though at the moment I think I have only 1-2 accounts active until just before WoD as I have been far too busy submerged in WoD Beta :)

Only thing I am researching and reading different things about is the Power Supply, because I think I will settle for a 750watt one, but they vary greatly in price. Any suggestions in what kind of a 750watt, or will it not really matter ?

[MiRai]

Only thing I am researching and reading different things about is the Power Supply, because I think I will settle for a 750watt one, but they vary greatly in price. Any suggestions in what kind of a 750watt, or will it not really matter ?
Both Seasonic and Corsair make quality PSUs.

[Shania]

YaY motherboard, rom, ssd, case have arrived.
psu tomorrow, and next week the graphics card and ram then week after its cpu and cooler and gtg !

ahh the waiting :(

oh I went with corsair psu as well.

[Shania]

woot things moved along a little faster, got the graphics card and ddr4 ram today! what a beasty looking video card.

ordering cpu and cooler probably tomorrow and will have everything too build by friday hopefully. So cannot wait.

[Bloodcloud]

+1 thanks guys. this post helped me a lot