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MiRai
01-09-2014, 09:51 AM
If this is true...
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-preparing-gtx-780-ti-6gb-edition/
/sigh
I've got until the end of the month to return my 3GB models.
http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2014/02/18/bet-on-black-titan-black/
I've got 16 days left on my EVGA Step-Up, but Titans don't qualify for that program apparently. ;) Oh well, I wouldn't actually be able to change anything in my setup with those GPUs if I could afford them.
To put it into perspective:
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Fat Tire
01-09-2014, 10:05 AM
I want
rfarris
01-09-2014, 10:26 AM
/sigh
CDNProdigy
01-09-2014, 11:30 AM
Thank you for the link. It looks like an upgrade is in order sometime this year.
Lyonheart
01-09-2014, 02:21 PM
some rich boxer just needs to buy out the titan stock to we can get these in! ( JK ) .. im glad you posted this.. i was just about to buy the 3gb version.. ill wait for 6Gb ( im currently using 580 3gb )
MiRai
01-09-2014, 06:52 PM
Honestly, it's a tough call because I'm likely going to be limited by CPU before I'll be limited by GPU (as I've shown in my latest stress test). It's easy for me to just back down the Ultra+ settings a notch in order to save on VRAM, or I can fully, or partially, separate my SLI setup to get 6GB or even 9GB of total VRAM if necessary.
Even if a 6GB card comes out, I doubt I'll upgrade to it unless EVGA offers it as part of their Step-Up program (which is highly unlikely). I'd rather not have to deal with pulling the GPUs out, removing the backplates, sending them back to Amazon, waiting for a refund, then being able to buy the newer, and more expensive, 6GB variants of the GPU... it'd be a total hassle and there'd be weeks of downtime.
Don't worry once they're out I'll change my mind. >_>
Sam DeathWalker
01-09-2014, 08:27 PM
My opinion is that most of the time the GPU is waiting for the CPU (actually the memory controller) to deliver it textures.
What appears to be a CPU limit is really the Memory Controller taking data from system ram and moving it to cpu cache then moving that data from cpu cache to video memory.
In my opinion nothing will speed you up as much as more video ram, because the texture data is already on the video card takes a lot of pressure off of the cpu memory controller.
The ALU in the CPU is not any kind of limit in wow. The GPU might be limit at high effects.
The bottleneck is going to almost always be getting the textures from the storage unit to the video card ram.
MiRai
02-18-2014, 12:36 PM
The new Titan went live today:
http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2014/02/18/bet-on-black-titan-black/
It's a slightly ​overclocked 780 Ti with 6GB of VRAM. This thread's title was originally about a 6GB 780 Ti, but I've edited it since it's actually a new Titan.
rfarris
02-18-2014, 01:39 PM
The article says it's available now. Where do you buy it?
MiRai
02-18-2014, 01:43 PM
The article says it's available now. Where do you buy it?
http://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=0&family=GeForce+TITAN+Series+Family&chipset=GTX+TITAN+BLACK
rfarris
02-18-2014, 02:51 PM
Nom, nom, nom, nom...
Kicksome
02-18-2014, 03:47 PM
How much faster is this than the 780ti?
rfarris
02-18-2014, 04:01 PM
It's not faster, in fact it's slower than some. It has twice as much vram. So if you're running at 2560x1600 you'll definitely need one of these.
MiRai
02-18-2014, 04:04 PM
How much faster is this than the 780ti?
The specs show that it's about 1% faster, but my vanilla 780 Ti GPUs have a higher overclock than the new Titan Black stock clocks. Overclocking is never guaranteed, but my GPUs are technically faster, they just have less VRAM; and, the Titan Blacks may possibly overclock even better
The thing with my setup though, is that I have to split the load between my GPUs as it is because: 1) I'm pushing a little less than 4GB of VRAM, and 2) even in 3-way SLI the GPUs can't handle the super ultra settings I throw at them. I have a fairly unique situation though because of the settings I like to play at, but because I'm splitting the load I am already utilizing 6GB of VRAM between my GPUs.
Don't get me wrong, 6GB would be nice to have per GPU, but I'm having a difficult time convincing myself to pay $300, per GPU, for an extra 3GB. ;)
MiRai
02-18-2014, 04:11 PM
It's not faster, in fact it's slower than some. It has twice as much vram. So if you're running at 2560x1600 you'll definitely need one of these.
If you're looking at the texture fill rate, then it is slower, but I had read a thread not too long ago that stated the texture fill rate was a pretty useless 'stat' to show these days since it's so incredibly high and it would never be the bottleneck in any modern system. Unfortunately, I don't have the link to that thread and, technically, they could have been wrong, but what they were saying made sense in my own little world.
I was really just referring to the base and boost clocks of the Titan Black when I said 1%, because even the memory bandwidth is the same on both GPUs and you're really just paying for more VRAM and double precision (which doesn't affect gamers).
EDIT: It seems that texture fill rate may be necessary for larger resolutions, which is technically what we, as multiboxers, play at. If that's true, then the Titan Black is a bit worse than the 780 Ti if you're pushing a lot of resolution.
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