Disenchanting questions.

[Sentack]

Hey Multi-boxers. Quick question.

When it comes to Disenchanting. Can you A) Disenchant quest rewards? (I think you can) and if so B) How do you disenchant items from your teammates? I figure a lot of the rewards my other Clone accounts get will eventually become useless. Now I would rather have those nice junk drops get disenchanted. But since I can't transfer them, how do I disenchant them without turning all my clones into Enchanters, which seems expensive.

Right now, I have 3 characters, I figure 1 is going to be my Enchanter/Skinner, 2nd will be a Miner/JewelCrafter and 3rd will be a Herbalist/Tailor.

This should cover all the things I can pick up for extra cash and allow me to make items for all my clones. (Note, my clones are a Priest and 2 Mages).

[Crazychip]

Yes, you can disenchant quest rewards. The only items you can't disenchant are items purchased with Honor points (I believe, I don't think there's any others). *** You can't disenchant via the trade window. I stand corrected ***

For ease of professions, here's my set up:

Main - Miner/Skinner
2nd - JC / LW
3rd - Enchanter / Tailor

This allows me to be on the go as I don't have to stop and control one of my minions to mine or skin.
When my bags are full, I smelt then transfer the appropriate items to the appropriate minion.
I only craft items when I need to go train new class skills which I'm there I pick up more prof skills as needed.
Rinse and repeat.

[thyrm]

To disenchant soulbound items, you open a Trade window with your Enchanting minion, place the items in the "Do Not Trade" slot, disenchant.Is this new and unmentioned in patch notes?

[Maxion]

I don't think that is possible, I will have to test this.

[Crazychip]

I got you to reply, didn't I? :P

I stand corrected then.

[Xorn]

Hmpf, just tested it ... ;)
Of course it does not work, you get a message like "this ability can only be used on items which are soulbound to you" (or something else with that meaning).

Sad thing somehow ... :(

[Sentack]

Okay, that's what I figured the no-trade window would be where it would happen if it worked at all. I'm not shocked it doesn't though.

Well, that means if I want to maximize the stuff I can disenchant, I would have to turn all my alts into Enchanters, but that's also way too much work just to get a few extra dusts, dusts they'll no doubt end up using anyways because I'll need to train them up in enchanting. So for now, It's going to have to be the main only who will have enchanting.

I hear for Enchanting, their are drops that only the enchanter can see and pick up? Important drops you'll want to keep. That's why my main will be the enchanter. Although Miner/Skinner does make a lot of sense.

[Chorizotarian]

You can macro skinning so that another char can do it based on your main's target. Something like:


/cast [target=focustarget,dead,skinnable] Skinning

I haven't bothered myself though. If you're all on one machine or the mouse is broadcast via something like synergy I find it easy to mouse over to the skinner's window.

I actually put mining on an alt too so that I could use treasure finding on my dwarf pally main. It actually helps with some quests.

[Eteocles]

You can only DE non-soulbound, non-pvp, and most non-rep-related drops(Can't de Halaa gear for example, nor the Lower City spelldmg mace I think)

You can DE your own quest rewards, but not alts' soulbound rewards. And unless you really need mats, weigh possible mat outcome price/cost versus what the Vendor will give you if you simply sell it to them; eg an 8-12g staff sell is worth far more than some vision dust, moreso when you're past vision dust. a 2g green vs an Arcane dust...I'd go for the dust in THAT scenario cuz arcane is used for a ton of things even when enchanting is done; a 4-6g green however, the sale to vendor wins out, gotta get your epic flyer somehow ;p Just make sure it's not a green/blue you could sell on the AH for twice or more that amount, like most "Of the Sorceror" gear going for anywhere from 10 to 40g, let alone blues.

[Sentack]

I figure everything between level 1 - 50 is not really worth putting on the AH unless it's blue. So I figure, 99% of what I get, is worth DEing and that last 1% I might be upset that I find out I could have sold for more but, I won't be that disappointed until I get to 50+ where I'll be more careful.

[Atorifan]

I found intelligently stat items are worth selling at every level. I know people cry about don't use the AH, but it obviously is used in face of this 'wisdom'. Levelling any character that farms and doesn't craft, you have more than enough to gear up from the AH at every level advancement. Of course, I didn't waste gold on unreasonably priced items. Your first toon should be one that you can make the most money with, on your acct, then your alts can begin crafting, if crafting even entices you, at all. It's very easy, but it's pretty tedious. Any item I would buy off the ah, that I find as a drop, I list on the AH to sell (assuming I don't use it). The game is filled with enough drops that are 'worthless' but to disenchant. Of course, you have the time to list the ah vs just vendoring, but vendoring old world stuff doesn't net you what the Ah can from the same items. Totally worthwhile to DE junk, and AH worthwhile items at every level.

[Smallpox]

/cast [target=focustarget,dead,skinnable] Skinning
I actually put mining on an alt too so that I could use treasure finding on my dwarf pally main. It actually helps with some quests.



I use something similar for skinning with an alt, but I didn't know you could do that with mining?

[Team Squishee]

I found intelligently stat items are worth selling at every level. I know people cry about don't use the AH, but it obviously is used in face of this 'wisdom'. Levelling any character that farms and doesn't craft, you have more than enough to gear up from the AH at every level advancement. Of course, I didn't waste gold on unreasonably priced items. Your first toon should be one that you can make the most money with, on your acct, then your alts can begin crafting, if crafting even entices you, at all. It's very easy, but it's pretty tedious. Any item I would buy off the ah, that I find as a drop, I list on the AH to sell (assuming I don't use it). The game is filled with enough drops that are 'worthless' but to disenchant. Of course, you have the time to list the ah vs just vendoring, but vendoring old world stuff doesn't net you what the Ah can from the same items. Totally worthwhile to DE junk, and AH worthwhile items at every level.

Very true - I mail all greens to a bank char to sort out once a week before either listing on AH / sending on to my d/e:

The following are my rules of thumb for pre TBC lootz:

1h weapons - shard them
2h weapons - vendor (2h are worth a lot more then 1h, so i use 1h to get essences and 2h to get gold)

Cloth - AH any EAGLE gear (Int & Stam) - shard the rest

Leather - AH any MONKEY (Agi /Stam), AGILITY or TIGER (Agi & Strength) - shard the rest

Mail pre lv 40 - AH any BEAR ( Stam / Strength) or Tiger (Agi / Strength) shard the rest

Mail 40-60 - AH any AGILITY or MONKEY shard the rest

Plate - AH BEAR , TIGER, EAGLE - shard the rest.

Rings & Necks - ALWAYS AH jewelery except for low level resistance items.

Hats & Shoulders - Always AH these as they can be tricky spots to fill at low levels.


Obviously you may get the occassional item that you want to AH that falls outside these guidelines or shard more gear depending on yr needs and server economy

[thinus]

I found intelligently stat items are worth selling at every level. I know people cry about don't use the AH, but it obviously is used in face of this 'wisdom'. Levelling any character that farms and doesn't craft, you have more than enough to gear up from the AH at every level advancement. Of course, I didn't waste gold on unreasonably priced items. Your first toon should be one that you can make the most money with, on your acct, then your alts can begin crafting, if crafting even entices you, at all. It's very easy, but it's pretty tedious. Any item I would buy off the ah, that I find as a drop, I list on the AH to sell (assuming I don't use it). The game is filled with enough drops that are 'worthless' but to disenchant. Of course, you have the time to list the ah vs just vendoring, but vendoring old world stuff doesn't net you what the Ah can from the same items. Totally worthwhile to DE junk, and AH worthwhile items at every level.

The time it takes to sift through what is junk and what is not and then AHing it is just not worth it to me for the amount the items sell for compared to the DE value. Enchantrix with Auctioneer will give you a vendor price, DE price and AH breakdown. If an item doesn't sell for at least 20g+ on the AH I just don't bother. I just DE and sell the dusts/shards.

[marvein]

/cast [target=focustarget,dead,skinnable] Skinning
I actually put mining on an alt too so that I could use treasure finding on my dwarf pally main. It actually helps with some quests.



I use something similar for skinning with an alt, but I didn't know you could do that with mining?

it works with skinning because because a dead mob is targetable, a mining node is not (you can mouse over it though

[Eteocles]

Cloth - AH any EAGLE gear (Int & Stam) - shard the rest

Leather - AH any MONKEY (Agi /Stam), AGILITY or TIGER (Agi & Strength) - shard the rest

I have to disagree somewhat here...Cloth OWL gear sells nicely to spirit-hungry shadowpriests, especially pre-bc where there's little spelldmg to worry about

Leather, I will personally tell you I was fucking pissed at the fact that every goddamn leather item on the AH was rogue/feral oriented...sure they're common specs but for fuck's sake don't forget about us boomkins and restos + ele shamen pre-40 and even some post-40. I've yelled at /trade channel "QUIT FUCKING SELLING EAGLE LEATHER, BOOMKINS NEED GEAR TOO DAMNIT" :p Don't make the same mistake! Think of your boomkin and ele shamen brethren! :p

As for the above 1h/2h bit, sometimes 1hs sell very nicely...always check at a vendor and sell if it's high enough ;p Time = money, time spent = money saved, rush = flushing gold.

[Team Squishee]

Cloth - AH any EAGLE gear (Int & Stam) - shard the rest

Leather - AH any MONKEY (Agi /Stam), AGILITY or TIGER (Agi & Strength) - shard the rest

I have to disagree somewhat here...Cloth OWL gear sells nicely to spirit-hungry shadowpriests, especially pre-bc where there's little spelldmg to worry about

Leather, I will personally tell you I was fucking pissed at the fact that every goddamn leather item on the AH was rogue/feral oriented...sure they're common specs but for fuck's sake don't forget about us boomkins and restos + ele shamen pre-40 and even some post-40. I've yelled at /trade channel "QUIT FUCKING SELLING EAGLE LEATHER, BOOMKINS NEED GEAR TOO DAMNIT" :p Don't make the same mistake! Think of your boomkin and ele shamen brethren! :p

As for the above 1h/2h bit, sometimes 1hs sell very nicely...always check at a vendor and sell if it's high enough ;p Time = money, time spent = money saved, rush = flushing gold.

I cant disagree with any of the points you make but the guidelines i listed were for maximum saleability and only having to list an item once - there are more mages & locks than spriests, and more rogues + ferals + hunters and enhance shammies in total than there are low level balance / ele shams. I guess each server will differ depending on its age and population though so take that into account also.