Multiboxing 5 Marksman Hunters In 5v5 Arena Games

[Frenchy]

Hey everybody!

I'm Frenchy, and while I'm not new to multiboxing, I'm new to dual-boxing.com. I've frequented the website quite a bit, but I've never actually posted on the forums. So this is my first time! :)

I wanted to share with all of you some 5v5 arena games that I played on my five marksman hunters. I had been wanting to do some 5s for quite a bit of time, but three of my hunters were under-geared.

In any case, now they're all geared enough, despite a few missing gems and enchants that I will take care of as soon as possible. So I decided to try my hand at some 5s. I didn't really toy around with "advanced" strategies at all; I just went in and did my thing. Considering that, the results were very promising! My win-loss ratio currently stands at 34 wins and 51 losses. But keep in mind that I tried about 6 or 7 games (all losses) back when three of my hunters were completely under-geared. I had tons of fun while playing these games, and I'm looking forward to experiment with more "advanced" strategies such as:

- having a "Target Arena[1,2,3,4,5] --> cast Wyvern Sting" macro on each of my hunters and thus CCing the entire enemy team at once 
- trying out Binding shot to see if it could be better
- silencing healers when I'm targeting dps classes
- actually using my traps (I wasn't using any traps)
- trying out the Murder of Crows instead of Blink Strikes
- and any other ideas I can come up with! :)

Now, enough with my rant! Here is the video of my 5v5 Arena Games!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQHJHl9Hk98&feature=c4-overview&list=UUmGTKzP8Ym0gMBUDY6dvlNA

I really hope you guys enjoy the video, and I invite you all to check out all of the other multiboxing videos on my channel: they are located in the Multiboxing Playlist. I have a lot of other multiboxing videos, including some in Durotar with my good friend who multiboxes 5 Restoration Shamans! Oh, and I just got 5 other accounts, and I'm on my way to multiboxing 10 Hunters!!!

Also, please consider subscribing to the channel if you enjoy the content! The support truly means so much! And I'll be coming out with many more videos!

Warm regards,
Frenchy

[Fat Tire]

Welcome to DB! HD vid, nice.

Keep working at it and put cc macros into place, looks like your having fun. Any 5 mutiboxed team can get to 1500, even your 5 resto sham friend given enough games.

[djensen2010]

You beat me to it! Im gearing hunters right now and after doin some wpvp and seeing how I can basically one-shot peole with aimed shot and one-shot another person with chimera I was like "Damn, I wonder how this would do in arena?"

[Shodokan]

I'm leveling this for fun as well for a project with two friends of mine.

Some random thoughts:
1.Explosive trap glyphed will help a lot with getting melee and pesky rogues off of you. You don't need to necessarily use trap launcher to have them be useful. All the traps help.
2.Two separate CC macros for healers or any target that are focused by 2 each with a 3rd focus from your main that you can use for scatter + trap.
3.Deter that will reflect - Use an addon that will allow you to see when a target is going to hard cast CC on you and pre-emptively use deter like on chaos bolt or CC like polymorph.
4.Chain pet sacrifices
5.Barrage's damage is actually very high, if you can binding shot + barrage something it will likely die.
6.Intimidation is also strong as you can do a chain on a healer similar to Sleep > Sleep > Stun > Stun > Freeze (main using a freezing trap) > Silence > Silence. Depends on what you have your pets doing for CC.
7. Don't forget to have multiple pet types. Wasps, Monkeys, cranes (4 second sleep... replacing wyrven sting) and dogs/spiders all have individual CC that can be used on
8. Scatter shot can be used as an interrupt from your alts.
9. Make sure to tranq shot your kill targets before going for a kill
10. Fervor might actually be good for you for going for the initial kill.

[ebony]

hey, welcome to daul-boxing.com

makes me start to think that i could get wins on five warlocks!!

If i remember right ashly used to have a good macro that put out traps.

[Mosg2]

Impressive. Most impressive.

My biggest suggestion would be working on your control setup so that you can have each individual use Deterrence, Disengage etc.

[Kayley]

Nice videos, GL with the hunters -- Squats are hell :(
o/

[Shodokan]

Impressive. Most impressive.

My biggest suggestion would be working on your control setup so that you can have each individual use Deterrence, Disengage etc.

He is mostly disengaging on CD for the 20+% hp

[Frenchy]

I'm leveling this for fun as well for a project with two friends of mine.

Some random thoughts:
1.Explosive trap glyphed will help a lot with getting melee and pesky rogues off of you. You don't need to necessarily use trap launcher to have them be useful. All the traps help.
2.Two separate CC macros for healers or any target that are focused by 2 each with a 3rd focus from your main that you can use for scatter + trap.
3.Deter that will reflect - Use an addon that will allow you to see when a target is going to hard cast CC on you and pre-emptively use deter like on chaos bolt or CC like polymorph.
4.Chain pet sacrifices
5.Barrage's damage is actually very high, if you can binding shot + barrage something it will likely die.
6.Intimidation is also strong as you can do a chain on a healer similar to Sleep > Sleep > Stun > Stun > Freeze (main using a freezing trap) > Silence > Silence. Depends on what you have your pets doing for CC.
7. Don't forget to have multiple pet types. Wasps, Monkeys, cranes (4 second sleep... replacing wyrven sting) and dogs/spiders all have individual CC that can be used on
8. Scatter shot can be used as an interrupt from your alts.
9. Make sure to tranq shot your kill targets before going for a kill
10. Fervor might actually be good for you for going for the initial kill.

Hey!

Thanks for the ideas! I'll definitely have to try some of them out (especially the pet sacrifices)!

[Frenchy]

Impressive. Most impressive.

My biggest suggestion would be working on your control setup so that you can have each individual use Deterrence, Disengage etc.

The thing about individual Deterrences that is annoying is that it prevents the hunter that is using Deterrence from attacking, which messes up CDs like Chimera shot in terms of alignment with my other hunters. As for disengages, it could be nice to have multiple entrapments (from different disengages). I might also try a different talent for disengage, like the 70% speed boost.

[Frenchy]

Nice videos, GL with the hunters -- Squats are hell :(
o/

Thanks!

And yes...squats are indeed hell! But you gotta love 'em! :p

[rastausa]

Hello frenchy,

Can you one shot something with 4 hunts?

And when will be the next video? :)

[Frenchy]

Hello frenchy,

Can you one shot something with 4 hunts?

And when will be the next video? :)

Hey rastausa!

So, I CAN indeed one-shot something with only 4 hunters; however, that depends on a few things.

1) How well-geared the player I'm targeting is. If they're in full PvE gear in World PvP and have over 600k health, I won't be able to one-shot them.
2) The class they're playing. If they're a mage; they will likely get one-shot. If they're a warlock; probably not.
3) The buffs that they have. If they have tons of protective shields and the like, then I will probably not be able to 1-shot them.
4) RNG. Yup, if I'm lucky and get a crit on all 8 of the spells (x4 Aimed Shot - x4 Chimera Shot), then almost anything will be 1-shot. :p

As for the next video, I've uploaded a lot of videos since the last one I posted on here. Here is another 5s video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa9MhKJIKJ0

Working on some more at the present moment! I have some awesome footage from me and my friend who multiboxes 5 resto shamans against a 10-boxing warrior on Timeless Isle. I also have some great 5s footage against a 4-boxing Enhancement Shaman who's on dual-boxing.com! So stay tuned! :)

Lemme know if you have any other questions!

Frenchy

[karr]

Had some good games for sure, once i saw what you were doing though, it became too set. I figured my burst would make you go defensive, then defensive and stuns would also help limit your insane burst.

one thing to remember, enhance shammies get two stormblasts per ascendence, it would be hard to deterrence the first one, but if you wait after the first blast 4 seconds or so, your deterrence should block the opportunity for the second. Laying a stack of freezing traps might help, but likely to catch a wolf or get broken. arena 1-4 scattering shot is nice, and if you used that camera centering mod (i think you mod the cfg file) you could probably scatter trap to some degree with all of them vs stacked opponents.

I would also put explosive trap on round robin, each hunter only lays one at a time, so you get 5 knockbacks..

All in all very good stuff, the lack of heals is, i think, your biggest hurdle. though the 1-2 person quick kills without any real CDs is nice.

[MadMilitia]

If I saw 5 hunters in a 5v5 match the first thought would be to make them come to me. Some may pull a move like that. They would limit your line of sight as much as possible. True, they have to eventually face you but the more on their terms it is, the more difficult it ought to be on you because they will be prepared. Especially someone who knows how to exploit the turning problems you'll have at mid range where IWT doesn't work for hunters. Then it's just a matter of time meeting you where the distance is the shortest. They blow all AEs and cooldowns at that moment for M.A.D. turning you at a distance you can't respond to effectively.

I could see it being viable for a while though. It must be a blast in wPvP. I would work on some configurations that don't stack the hunters much at all. As with any PvP multiboxing, clustering is a weakness.

[karr]

The hunter stealth aimed shot+ chimera opener is pretty strong, done well it mostly assures the open is on the hunters terms and one of the opposition team is dead at a minimum.

[rastausa]

Nice video, thx for the link.

You start to use traps now. That's a nice touch.
It seems a bit difficult to use the mirrored blades glyphe on deterrence. The fights without a heal seems incredibly fast and somehow chaotique.
You almost kill any healer with the silencing shot.


If 4 hunters is indeed good enough, if you don't mind, add a drood heal in the mix.(controled by a second player of course) I would love to see some video with this compo.

nonetheless, good entertaining for multiboxers lover :) Keep up the good work.

[Kruschpakx4]

I'd also play this with a druid, you get dash from symbiose to kite with your main as its usually the focus target and druid gets deterrence which is very helpful in a 4 dps lineup

[Frenchy]

If I saw 5 hunters in a 5v5 match the first thought would be to make them come to me. Some may pull a move like that. They would limit your line of sight as much as possible. True, they have to eventually face you but the more on their terms it is, the more difficult it ought to be on you because they will be prepared. Especially someone who knows how to exploit the turning problems you'll have at mid range where IWT doesn't work for hunters. Then it's just a matter of time meeting you where the distance is the shortest. They blow all AEs and cooldowns at that moment for M.A.D. turning you at a distance you can't respond to effectively.

I could see it being viable for a while though. It must be a blast in wPvP. I would work on some configurations that don't stack the hunters much at all. As with any PvP multiboxing, clustering is a weakness.

Hey MadMilitia!

I actually prefer when the teams let me come to them. It gives me time to figure out who I want to go for, and it also allows me to find a good spot to open from. When teams rush in they can throw me off a lot; I don't run fast at all while in camouflage, so if they rush in very fast, they can actually get me out of stealth almost 100% of the time (in maps like Dalaran Sewers and Ruins of Lordaeron). Also, one thing that can mess me up a lot is if the opposing players are mounted and run around pillars or some kind of line-of-sight object. That basically prevents me from getting an opener, and then when my first camouflage wears off they see where I'm hiding and usually win. But fortunately for me, most teams don't do this! :p

And yes; playing 5 hunters (on my way to 10 by the way) in world PvP is insanely fun!

[Frenchy]

Nice video, thx for the link.

You start to use traps now. That's a nice touch.
It seems a bit difficult to use the mirrored blades glyphe on deterrence. The fights without a heal seems incredibly fast and somehow chaotique.
You almost kill any healer with the silencing shot.


If 4 hunters is indeed good enough, if you don't mind, add a drood heal in the mix.(controled by a second player of course) I would love to see some video with this compo.

nonetheless, good entertaining for multiboxers lover :) Keep up the good work.

Yeah I'm starting to use traps and binding shot a lot more. Binding shot can be extremely useful in 5s. I haven't gotten used to using scatter shot yet.

Teams that dont have any healers basically can't beat me. It's essentially a 4v5 since I get the 1-shot opener, and then I can just deterrence, chimera shot kill, deterrence, chimera shot kill, and the game is basically over! The only way a 5 dps team could beat me is if they knew exactly what messes me up: i.e. if they had only mages, hunters, ret pallies, and rogues (iceblock, alter-time, double deterrence, bubble, vanish -- all spells that really prevent me from killing targets) and cc'ed me well enough.

Finally, I will definitely get a druid to heal me and make some awesome videos of the games! :)

[Frenchy]

I'd also play this with a druid, you get dash from symbiose to kite with your main as its usually the focus target and druid gets deterrence which is very helpful in a 4 dps lineup

Yeah I will definitely try some games with a druid. The deterrence for the druid would be really good. I'm not sure how useful the dash would be (just because I wouldn't want my slaves to stop following my main if he gets too far), but I guess it could be kinda cool.

[Frenchy]

Yesterday I faced karr in 5s. He was on his 4 enhancement shamans with a resto druid.

Here are the four games that we played: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0rR1Kf-BKk&feature=youtu.be

Let me know if any of you are interested in doing some wargames, some world pvp, and whatever else we can think of! If only battleground wargames allowed /follow... :(

[Multibocks]

cool video, was funny seeing the one shots

[ebony]

frenchy you can always link your video's to the commons.

[Frenchy]

frenchy you can always link your video's to the commons.


What are the commons?

[karr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0rR1Kf-BKk

Is this what you mean by the commons? Just the video here?

[Frenchy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0rR1Kf-BKk

Is this what you mean by the commons? Just the video here?

Lol strong zoom into my face :p

[Kruschpakx4]

Is this what you mean by the commons? Just the video here?

http://www.dual-boxing.com/commons

-> New video link

video shows up frontpage then

[Selz]

Welcome to DB Frenchy :) it's gonna be interresting to follow you're hunters.

[Frenchy]

Welcome to DB Frenchy :) it's gonna be interresting to follow you're hunters.

Thanks Selz! You'll be seeing a lot more of my videos! :) And like I've said before, if any one is interested, let me know and we can do some wargames, world pvp, and more!

[djensen2010]

Whats your btag? i got 10 dks on darkspear and am always lookin to do stuff

[Frenchy]

Whats your btag? i got 10 dks on darkspear and am always lookin to do stuff

Awesome! My battletag is Frenchy#1467. Give me yours as well (in case I'm capped in battletag friends and don't receive your request. Doing some world PvP as we speak with my friend who multiboxes 5 resto shamans.