Sam DeathWalker - WoWs fastest leveler - 11million xp/hr (level 85 no rested no raf!)

[Sam DeathWalker]

This is Samdeathwkaf (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/nerzhul/Samdeathwkaf/advanced) if you wish to check the armory; NO RESTED, NO RAF (has three heirlooms though but no guild flag /it dosnt stay if you move out of range/) over 11,000,000 xp per hour. One mage tags (in the group with Samdeathwkaf, 2 in group total), then the 26 box crew comes in and kills everything with arcane explosion. The SS speaks for itself.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8127242@N08/9328380300/

[MiRai]

Sam, are you sure you're linking to the correct armory profile? :confused:

EDIT: There you go, Sam. I'm also going to edit your post so it's a little more coherent.

[Shodokan]

I did 89-90 for some kid last night at the dooker dome in under 30 mins with only 15% rested. (Because he was offering 8k gold for 89-90 O_o)

Pretty sure that is around 20m or more an hour.

Grats though. Monkey runs are around the same EXP per hour for any group of 5 though ;\

Do these mobs basically insta respawn?

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well this is at level 85, not 89. They spawn fast not instant though but if you go from one end of the mobs to the other by the time you start coming back they have spawned. Ill check out this monkey run dooker dome spot today.

[Shodokan]

Well this is at level 85, not 89. They spawn fast not instant though but if you go from one end of the mobs to the other by the time you start coming back they have spawned.

Well, at level 85 you still get good exp at the place i used. When i power leveled reckful like 5 months ago on his DK it took like 30 mins per level, before i got ddosed >_>

-shrug-

I will look into the spot though.

[Mokoi]

Sorry, You aren't even close.

I have you beat

30+ million per hour.
Level 86.
2 hour sessions.
2.7 million average including breaks.

[Andreauk]

Sorry, You aren't even close.

I have you beat

30+ million per hour.
Level 86.
2 hour sessions.
2.7 million average including breaks.

Do tell.

[Shodokan]

Sorry, You aren't even close.

I have you beat

30+ million per hour.
Level 86.
2 hour sessions.
2.7 million average including breaks.

Able to be done now or a patched place? Because if its patched i might know where you are talking about.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Hey why does the enter key not work for me just posting on this forum? I cant break up my posts ... (I also try the keypad with num lock on and off). I went to the monkey run but there are just to few mobs, even though they respawn very fast, ya they are worth more exp but there are so few as compared to where I am they don't provide as much total exp. But you can plant a flag at the monkey run for extra exp and they do give loot, so people who prefer less exp but more lootz its better. The mobs I kill don't but then again I don't get slowed down looting. Any SS of the 30plus million? Are you supposed to be on some particular quest during the monkey run so there are extra mobs? Ok the monkeys in the instance brewrery have been nerfed, the ones in dooker dome are still fine. It does seem possible to do more then 11 million at the dooker dome though depending on a number of factors, lets see how I do on the 89/90 run.

[Mokoi]

953
This was taken after 2 hours. breaks included.

[Sservis]

While I think maximizing single player xp/hr is interesting, I'm more interested in the best places to earn xp in total considered across all characters participating.

For instance, Sam is earning 22 million xp/hr since there are two toons in the tag group. Assuming that he's going to eventually want both of them to 90, all of the experience is meaningful progress towards that goal. Also Sam, you'd get more total xp/hr, but less per alt if you had a full group of 5 tagging due to group xp multipliers. (If these are your last two to level, nevermind that suggestion)

[Mokoi]

They are related though, as you mentioned, group xp bonusus will increase the groups overall EXP. Finding a fun place to power level one alt is always useful though, since we dont always want a whole group leveled at once, but rather level one alt we need to complete a group, or switch an alt in because their class is better at a specific role etc.

I think Sam just wanted to pull a prepared and claim himself top of the world without actually checking first.

Last time I checked, my spot was not patched, but I havent used it in a while.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Its my last ONE to level, so I am only getting exp on one guy. I use the level 90 mage for never fail aoe tagging. But ya if it was a group of 5, with one level 90 tagger and the rest under level 90 there would be way more then 11 million exp, total. If your spot is the zhus watch mobs or the brewly instance then they have been nerfed. Ya well I thought it was the best but .... still lets see if your spot is nerfed or if I do better at a higher level. Ya I did not check, as I don't see where there are more mobs and there is no way someone who is not 20 plus boxing will kill mobs as fast as aoe mages ...

[MiRai]

Amateurs...

954

[zenga]

Amateurs...

sush

http://i.imgur.com/G1quAlC.jpg

[MiRai]

sush

http://i.imgur.com/G1quAlC.jpg
Fake.

[Gomotron]

What I find most fascinating about this whole thread is why Sam cares about being "The Best" at any facet of a MMORPG. Or, perhaps more importantly, why he thinks that WE care...

[Palee]

Funny how you guys get your panties in a bunch over something so insignificant :)
But since there's not much else going on here this will do it :)

[djensen2010]

Aside from all this ego shenanigans, would anyone care to share where they are grinding their uber xp?

[EaTCarbS]

Aside from all this ego shenanigans, would anyone care to share where they are grinding their uber xp? Well, based on Sam's screenshot, he was doing these pulls in Krasarang Cove. http://www.wowwiki.com/Krasarang_Cove

[Sam DeathWalker]

23 Million! http://www.flickr.com/photos/8127242@N08/9340315661/

[Chalked]

Good job Sam!

[Zub]

For sale [Hallburn Pat-Myself-on-the-Back Apparatus] 10g. Any takers?
955

[Mokoi]

23 Million! http://www.flickr.com/photos/8127242@N08/9340315661/

Victory? Oh no wait, still less than others who posted.

[Sam DeathWalker]

If the spot is still viable sure, then I am beat; if its been patched then clearly it was not part of the long term game design and is now considered to be an error by the Developers. You can't keep everything secrete and claim to be top dog, I explained exactly how I did it and where I did it (well its clear where I was), do the same to beat me. Anyone can do what I did if they have the dps to kill 45ish level 90 mobs (or any mob that gives 10K exp per kill at level 90) a minute. And if you know of a better spot why would you not share with your fellow boxers?

[JohnGabriel]

Cant see your exp bar to say, but maybe one of you rested the other not.

[Shodokan]

If the spot is still viable sure, then I am beat; if its been patched then clearly it was not part of the long term game design and is now considered to be an error by the Developers. You can't keep everything secrete and claim to be top dog, I explained exactly how I did it and where I did it (well its clear where I was), do the same to beat me. Anyone can do what I did if they have the dps to kill 45ish level 90 mobs (or any mob that gives 10K exp per kill at level 90) a minute. And if you know of a better spot why would you not share with your fellow boxers?

Technically mobs that do not drop loot are not suppose to really give EXP.

Dooker dome you can only do about 10 mobs per min but they are worth about 42-50k (forget) per and the big one is close to 90k... so like ~600k exp per min. If you pull right you can have constant respawns on the big guy which can bring your yield up to close to 50m per hour.

I don't have addons for EXP but I did 88-89 in 37 mins last night, non rested which is about 27m exp. It is close to 4% exp per min when you get the spawns going properly (if the class can AOE tag well).

You can technically do 85-90 here in ~ 150 mins or just over 2.5 hours non rested.

[rfarris]

When you say "Dooker Dome" is that the place just north of where the Horde zeppelin crashed in the MoP starting area?

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya I guess you are right. I see where the difference is; I was boosting a healer so I had to have a tagger in his group which cut my exp by 1/2. If you are boosting a class that can aoe tag solo and then kill with out of group helpers then you can do double what I was doing. If I ever boost a mage Ill try again but I think 28 is where I want to be. Gonna try and solo box Galleon, I was close and hopefully with this extra healer Ill succeed. http://www.wowwiki.com/Dooker_Dome

[Mokoi]

The point I wanted to make was about not being an arrogant prick on these forums.

We have another boxer who thinks they are the best and claiming so all over the internet making the rest of us look bad in the process because of how utterly awful they really are.. do we reallly need two of you?

[Zub]

do we reallly need two of you?
Do we need one ? :-)

[Shodokan]

Do we need one ? :-)

Prepared isn't going to ever stop giving us a bad name, we don't need him and we certainly don't want him.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well that's why I figured I would post here first to see if in fact my claim would hold up, before I posted "all over the internet". I wouldn't call it "awful" but it does seem its the fastest for a restoration shaman. Someone makes a claim and others show it incorrect, I don't really see how that makes anyone "look bad".

[Mokoi]

Your original post, and the title of the thread certainly doesn't suggest an air of modest fact checking, does it?

[JohnGabriel]

It's scientific study, and you all were his peer review. ;)

[hendrata]

Hello,

I'm about to try this method of pure grinding, since I usually level by questing. Is it feasible to do the Dooker Dome one if all of your toons is 85-86? Or do you need one level 90 (say the tank) to keep being alive? I do have a tank at 90 (level 485, so I'm sure it can handle dooker dome crowd no problem), but I thought the XP is reduced if you have a level 90 in the group.

[Zub]

Your original post, and the title of the thread certainly doesn't suggest an air of modest fact checking, does it?
haha precisely

[Sam DeathWalker]

If you can tag AND kill fast with the lowbies in a group and the level 90 out of the group (to help kill faster but make sure it does not tag) then that's the best. Yes the level 90 will reduce the exp in the group but if the mobs are not grey to the 90 then you don't lose a ton, but you will lose depending on how many in the group, if you have the 90 and a lowbie in the group then you lose 50 percent like I was. If you tag with the lowbies and help kill with the 90 out of group and the lowbies don't die then go with that, otherwise you have to bring the tank into the group to tag and take agro.

[Sam DeathWalker]

And yet, if I did post modestly fewer people would have read the tread and the peer review would not have been as complete or as accurate.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

And yet, if I did post modestly fewer people would have read the tread and the peer review would not have been as complete or as accurate.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the dictionary example of the phrase, "water off a duck's back."

Well played, Sam.

[suicidesspyder]

My question is it viable to bring in toons less then level 80 per say. I have lots ;eve; 70-80 and was wondering if you could bring them to that spot and still tag or no. Or are there other spots to level toons that low fast.

[Sam DeathWalker]

You would need one level 90 to tag and be grouped with the lowbies, he will take a big chunk of the exp but I think its still going to be 1000 - 1500 kills per level no matter what. It is more efficient to have one level 90 and 4 lowbies in that case. Then if you have other accounts or friends level 90 they again will be out of group and help kill the mobs faster. Dooker dome might be a good spot for this as the guys holding the chains might not attack the lowbies, not sure though, at any rate it will be way more easy to keep them alive at the dome then where I was. I was taking guys from level one in deep holm so it can be done but you have to find a spot to sit your lowbies wehre none will attack them (maybe in the center of the dome?) and they still get exp. They will get way less exp in non panderia zones.

[suicidesspyder]

Hmm good idea get a flying mount for two and bring them out there and sit them above them where they can still reach the mob to tag it but not agro. Hmmm might try this at a later time.

[Sam DeathWalker]

You cant tag from a mount but if you get exp while on a mount then that's a brilliant idea of a way to take a lowbie and make it so he cannot be attacked by a mob, Im going to see if that works with a level one. I can hit people on mounts with mage bomb and some priest spells, wonder if mobs can do that, don't recall seeing one do that. The hardest part of leveling a level one on up with this is keeping the level one alive, this might solve that. But you need a level 90 that can fly in pandera with a 2 seater (not in group) then a tagger grouped with the lowbie, the some out of group helpers, ya need a lot of accounts but I can see going from level 1 to level 90 in one spot if that works.

[suicidesspyder]

Yea i was thinking taking a couple 90s up with two seater flyers. Having the lowbies stay in the mount with those 90s. This way the mount doesnt go bye bye. Then have a 90 on the ground level with a tagger from the lowbie group. Although at the dome can you stand on the cage. If so might make it easy to keep lowbies up there tag then quickly kill with he 90 hmm.

[Mickthathick]

How do you get a toon under level 85 into Pandaria? Are you talking lock/mage ports?

[sparvath]

How do you get a toon under level 85 into Pandaria? Are you talking lock/mage ports?

Just use the summoning stone at the brewery in the Valley

[Multibocks]

weird I thought summoning stones had level restrictions. I swear I remember getting denied trying to summon a high level to one in Azeroth.

[Tonuss]

I don't think you can use a summoning stone if the character is outside of the dungeon's level range. Warlocks may be able to summon a low level player into MOP zones. No idea regarding mage ports.

What I am curious of-- how much discovery experience does a level 1 get if he is introduced to a high-level zone? Is it scaled to his level, or would a level 1 instantly ding level 3 or 4?

[Multibocks]

I think it's percentage based, but not positive. Like .25% or something.

[suicidesspyder]

what about 2 man flyers thought they worked.

[hendrata]

The exploration experience is scaled, so no you're not going to ding from 1 to 4. The 2 man flyer works perfectly well, but if you can't get in the instance then it's useless.

Btw, I just tried this last night: having a level 90 mage plus level 6 warlock in Pandaria.
Grouped together, the mob gave puny experience, something like 6xp per mob, which is even less than what the warlock would get killing level 6 mob on his own.
Not grouped, (warlock tags, mage kills), the warlock doesn't get any xp. I think it's largely based on the damage that the warlock inflicts on the mob, which, at level 6, against level 88 mob, that's like almost zero.

If you don't have RAF, the easiest way is for the lowbie to tag mobs 4 - 5 levels above him, and have the high level toon, NOT GROUPED, finish them off. In this case, I have the mage on follow, and once in a while I cast arcane explosion. The health recovery rate at level 6 is incredibly fast that I would go from almost dead to full health in a couple seconds.

Once the warlock hits level 10, I started doing deadmines, which, unrested, gives me about half a level per run, and that run takes about 2-3 minutes. Have mage in the front and warlock following. Just spam AE all the way and ice lancing the birds who fly too high. Don't even stop for loot. The painful thing about deadmines is that the entrance is kinda hard to get into and you can't mount to it. Now that my warlock is level 11, I'm going to take him to SFK and start boosting there.

So in short, the AOE grinding boosting method only works if the lowbie is not TOO low level.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I thought they removed the level restrictions on summoning stones a while back?

[MiRai]

I thought they removed the level restrictions on summoning stones a while back?
Yep. The only restriction is that you must be level 15 or higher.

[zenga]

I think it was about 2 months ago that I tried to summon a lowbie alt to the black temple summoning stone, and it said it was too low level. I forgot the actual level the alt had back then (in 20 or 30 range), so I actually had to get my warlock there to summon him.

[candlebox]

Ok well i tried the dooker dome and got ganked about 6 times.

Then i went to icecrown which was amazing on the respawns (Where all the contenders were)...lots of frostweave, about 15 stacks in an hour + 50g per toon and 300 for the main in selling crap.

XP was still horible...almost exactly half of what you get running a dungeon per mob 148 in dungeon and 67 on mobs.

Went into org instance and leveled way faster...this is with a 90 in group fyi.

Instance grinding is still the way to go....i think the quests are what are the massive boost tbh

If the mobs are too high it takes to long. My pally on the other hand leveled fast (84) at the dooker dome...whole level in almost an hour.





This game....it rots my mind. 5.4 is coming out soon...so you can get full tyr from doing dungeons...might be something to think about.

[Sam DeathWalker]

The mob must NOT be gray to the tagger! Group the level 90 tagger with the lowbie and kill a mob that is not gray to the tagger and the lowbie will get enough exp so its like 1000 to 1500 kills per level. That's why tag boosting requires out of group helpers to kill mobs faster because you cannot kill super low mobs and get decent exp on the lowbie, as you have found out.

[hendrata]

I think it was about 2 months ago that I tried to summon a lowbie alt to the black temple summoning stone, and it said it was too low level. I forgot the actual level the alt had back then (in 20 or 30 range), so I actually had to get my warlock there to summon him.

There is a MINIMUM level restriction on the summoning stone, which makes sense. If your lowbie is too low level it wouldn't be able to enter the instance anyway. There used to be a MAXIMUM level restriction but that got removed, but it's pointless because your main is usually a lot more mobile to begin with. Right now the way to get everyone to instance entrance is using 2 seater flying mount with main + 1 lowbie, then use summoning stone to summon the other lowbies.

I just tried this as well: a geared level 90 grouping with level 67, running UK 5 times, got him to level 70. I just went through spamming aoes. The first run through, make sure he picks up the quests and loot the bosses for quest items. I don't loot anything else, they just slow me down. Got 5 instance completed within 45 mins, then ran into instance requirement. I think 2.5 levels for 45 mins is not a bad deal. At level 70, Azjol Nerub opened, which I haven't decided if it'd be faster than UK or not, especially since old kingdom is there as the next step.

[JohnGabriel]

if there is a high level on the account with the RaF toon being boosted you can fly him to the dungeon and use the summon friend feature.

[Kruschpakx4]

just curious if I want to level my 4 blood dks (85-90) is it fast to nonestop run random dungeon with a 5th dps? a friend wants to level his ret pally with me and I'm not sure if thats the best method

[rfarris]

if there is a high level on the account with the RaF toon being boosted you can fly him to the dungeon and use the summon friend feature.

What if you have two RaF chains like this:

A-B

C-D
\
.E

Can a toon in A summon the C-D-E chain if they're partyed?

[MiRai]

if there is a high level on the account with the RaF toon being boosted you can fly him to the dungeon and use the summon friend feature.

What if you have two RaF chains like this:

A-B

C-D
\
.E

Can a toon in A summon the C-D-E chain if they're partyed?
Assuming your characters are level 15 or above, just use the summoning stone outside of the instance.

[suicidesspyder]

This is what im doing shortly. I already have 5 accounts but they are not all filled. So im taking my Main account as my booster say Alpha haha. Then One of my alts say Bravo. Now my wifes joining me so im going to raf her account Charlie. Then im going to add two more accounts Delta and Echo. So it looks like this... A---B - C
.................................................. .................................................. .....................| \
.................................................. .................................................. .....................| D
.................................................. .................................................. ......................\
.................................................. .................................................. ........................E

This way the high level can group and boost them. This allows Bravo Charlie and Delta to get Raf granted levels. Then ill shift toons over to my original 4 yea a little money but faster. Then once all accounts are full ill either make more toons on the new 3 accounts or cancel them. Not sure what to do with 8 accounts on my bnet and one on my wifes unless she boxes two healers and we ten man just the two of us.

[candlebox]

I found the best way to level is drunk. I am working on that right now. +200% drunken xp bonus. Try it.

[luxlunae]

I can't play drunk. I think I'm incapable of paying attention to my computer for more than five minutes when I drink.

[Kruschpakx4]

just tried out dooker dome with 4 dks, ~4,57M xp per hour@lvl 88 (28,6k ep/chief) without battle standard, ~25% faster than dungeon farming :)