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Jason Ender
07-07-2013, 03:10 AM
yes so with the minimum requirements going up i was wondering how it would effect the low end computer running boxing and my plans
what i wanted to run my ideas passed some poeple who know a little bit more than me...lol,
ok so i was thinking having a rack of about 4 computers something like this

935

got idea from http://server.bfxmedia.com/

and i would be running 4 or so dell 755 2.4ghz 4 gbs with 250gb
running 2 eve clients on each
eather have 4 screens or a kvm switch or something else

would i be better off geting a high end pc and ruining 8 accounts on it for a bit more price of the build?
but i do want to build a server rack for other reasons too.

moog
07-07-2013, 06:38 AM
Just to give you an idea, I currently run 5/10 clients on this 3.5 year old antique:


i7-920 overclocked to 4GHz (but, to be honest, CPU is not an issue)
12GB RAM (this is the limiting factor for me)
2GB ATI 6950
Win7-64 on SSD
Single installation of Eve on another SSD
Two 1920x1200 monitors


Personally, I don't play Eve for the graphics, so have no issue having minimal graphics on all clients and can 10-box on the above spec with no problems.

I actually pushed it to 12 clients back in March and logged the results

http://isboxer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3680&p=15706#p15706


Logging all 12 in at JITA, docked:


CPU cores are at 10-20% load
using just over 10GB RAM
GPU at 29% load
using 1.2GB GPU RAM


Undocking at JITA 4/4 (so lots of ships around):


CPU cores now at 15-30% load
using just under 11GB RAM
GPU at 37% load
1.6GB GPU RAM



I know the "minimum requirements" went up with the June 'expansion' but I've not noticed any changes with my 10-boxing.

If you like higher quality graphics in space then you might not be able to run 10 on such a spec but I just don't find that Eve needs the graphics, as I'm spending most of my time with on eye on local and the other on my overview/modules/ore bay etc. Something life Rift, however, I do need nice graphics (at least on the 'main'), so can just about 5-box that on my spec.

I originally started MBing (WoW) on 2 lower spec PCs, using http://www.kavoom.biz/ software KVM to control them but it never worked as well a single PC does.
I guess you have an advantage that if one PC craps out you can still warp out the rest of the fleet rather than wait for the PC to reboot and log all your clients back in but I, personally, wouldn't go back to running mutliple PCs for my MBing.

Two screens (driving on the main, with video feeds for the essentials on the secondary) is all you need.
I wouldn't like to keep track of more than 2 screens - if I added a third screen, it would be to run movies/browsers whilst mining, for instance, I wouldn't extend my gaming onto a third monitor.
You can see images of my setup in this post... http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/45642-In-game-element-layout-and-video-feeds?p=381873&viewfull=1#post381873

Redbeard
07-07-2013, 12:46 PM
Man I know some people do it out of necessity, but old age has soured me on the whole usage of multiple PCs for boxing. Moog is right, the requirements are quite reasonable.

Here are my specs:
Intel i7 920 @ 2.67ghz
12gb RAM
GeForce GTX285
Not even on an SSD.
Single screen in my case.

Playing 10 clients.

Dont have measured performance stats but lets just say i never notice an issue.

Hope this is helpful.

Brandish
08-06-2013, 08:18 AM
How important are available cpu threads when running all clients on one box? I'm thinking of adding more clients, and someone is telling me for 20+ I should go with dual hex-core xeons...which is nice and all, but quadruples (at least) the price of the build. Anyone running that many clients that can share some perspective?

I'd wind up at 16 to 18 clients if and when I pull that trigger.

MiRai
08-06-2013, 09:02 AM
How important are available cpu threads when running all clients on one box? I'm thinking of adding more clients, and someone is telling me for 20+ I should go with dual hex-core xeons...which is nice and all, but quadruples (at least) the price of the build. Anyone running that many clients that can share some perspective?

I'd wind up at 16 to 18 clients if and when I pull that trigger.
Errr... WTF? It's highly unlikely that you need multiple Xeon processors. Shadowandlight shows off running 14 clients (http://youtu.be/7CNEY-Mf4JQ) (while recording 1080p video) on an OC'd 3770K (which is a quad-core processor). Since then, I'm almost positive that he's upgraded to a 6-core Intel CPU and added a few accounts to his fleet.