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violetsreason
06-03-2013, 07:58 AM
Hey guys!

I have been daydreaming about multiboxing EVE online for the best part of a year now, and I have finally been able to get some funds together to be able to do it. My resources at the moment are my two gaming rigs(both about mid range, made one year ago, will run 2-3 EVE clients fine.) and about £500.

I've been reading everything I can on the subject and I think I have a bit of a handle now on what to buy towards. First off, however,I would just like to check my understanding on you guys:

CPU core number directly relates to how many game clients you can run (2 per core for EVE, apparently).
CPU speed relates to how quickly they will run.

RAM controls how smoothly the clients run.

GPU speed is a factor on your DISPLAYS and the DISPLAYED game settings, not on each individual client that is not currently displayed.
GPU RAM is a factor on smoothness of swapping between clients. (I am very unsure on those last two points.).

Do I have that right?

By this logic I should be looking for core number first, RAM volume second and everything else afterwards. This is because, to my understanding, the former two are literal restrictions and the latter just affects the settings I can run at.

With this logic, I have come up with the following parts:

http://www.ebuyer.com/398800-zotac-gtx-650-ti-2gb-gddr5-dual-dvi-dual-hdmi-pci-e-graphics-zt-61102-10m

^ It's cheap, it's got a lot of RAM, it has decent passmark scores. I would be running a triple or quad monitor setup with this. Will it do the job?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq4c-WCsS9c

^ For RAM, 24 gigs seems about right. My rational is in the first few minutes of the video above. Apparently 14 clients used about 16 gigs for him, so 24 gives me some leeway. Also worthy of note is the system he used to run everything as smoothly as he did. I would build something like that if I could, but it comes £300 over budget for me.


http://www.ebuyer.com/409186-amd-fx-8320-3-5ghz-socket-am3-16mb-cache-retail-boxed-processor-fd8320frhkbox

^ Annnnnnd this is the contencious choice, and the biggest point of contention for me. Almost every post referencing this card saidsomething like 'well the i7 blows it out of the water, why would you even think of it?' and also 'lol there is a reason its $400 dollars cheaper'. While I understand that the i7 is flatly better for single tasks, if the 8320 can even come out even with it on a big multi-client task load such as I want it for, it basically crushes the i7 for my use. For me to buy an i7 it's about £270, while the 8320 is £130. I am poor and that is a huge deal. HOWEVER, I am not a fan of false economy and if this CPU is flatly not going to be able to run 14 clients smoothly I will not skimp where it matters. I really need guidance here more than anywhere.

So there you have it. All of these parts together come to about £400, and I will obviously need to buy a new motherboard as well. I am more than a little at sea with this and could really use some help. Thanks for reading!

Thomas

EaTCarbS
06-03-2013, 07:29 PM
CPU core number directly relates to how many game clients you can run (2 per core for EVE, apparently).
CPU speed relates to how quickly they will run.

I'm not sure about that. I run 9 clients on an i7 920 without any issues. My main bottleneck is my RAM on my video card.

Syferr
06-03-2013, 10:22 PM
I dont know anything about Eve Online but the GTX 650 Ti is a pretty crappy card. Mabey save some more $ and go for the GTX 670.

EaTCarbS
06-04-2013, 02:16 AM
Alright, I'll give a more lengthy reply.

Processor isn't as important as you think. EvE is pretty light on cpu. My 9 clients and whatever else I'm running usually sit at 50% on an i7 930. I can't comment on AMD. I use about 8 gigs of my ram. The main part where I choke up is my video card. I highly recommend you save up and get yourself a strong card, unless you want to play the game at a horrid frame rate. That one you linked is a bit on the weak side - there is a reason why its cheap. It would run 1 game just fine, but 14? You've gotta invest in some power to get good results.

violetsreason
06-04-2013, 03:48 AM
That's great info, exactly the kind of stuff I need to know. Thanks so much. So the AMD process should be more than up to the job, but I should shell out probably at least 50% more on the GPU. The Radeon HD 7870 is far closer to my budget than a GTX 670, however (the GTX 670 is simply too rich for my blood at the moment). It has passamrk scores of about 4200, compared to the 2700 of the 650 ti and the 5300 of the GTX 670. Do you think it would do the job?

Syferr
06-04-2013, 04:54 AM
That's great info, exactly the kind of stuff I need to know. Thanks so much. So the AMD process should be more than up to the job, but I should shell out probably at least 50% more on the GPU. The Radeon HD 7870 is far closer to my budget than a GTX 670, however (the GTX 670 is simply too rich for my blood at the moment). It has passamrk scores of about 4200, compared to the 2700 of the 650 ti and the 5300 of the GTX 670. Do you think it would do the job?

Again i dont know anything about Eve but 14 accounts sounds like it would need alot of Video Card power to run, mabey cut back on the amount of accounts to play and go with a more pricey card and add accounts as you go and see where you get.

If you want to run 14 accounts you wont be able to skimp out on a good Vid card.

MiRai
06-04-2013, 03:49 PM
The Radeon HD 7870 is far closer to my budget than a GTX 670, however (the GTX 670 is simply too rich for my blood at the moment). It has passamrk scores of about 4200, compared to the 2700 of the 650 ti and the 5300 of the GTX 670. Do you think it would do the job?
Stop using PassMark and start looking at gaming benchmarks.