new version available... v1.8f (release thread)

[keyclone]

try it out and let me know what you think... :D

v1.8f
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o add: added lockInForeground capability to commands, useful for some games (UNTESTED)
o bug: increase size of 'grabber' corners within the maximizer layout editor
o bug: maximizer layout editor now works properly with horizontal span
o add: updated and expanded the FAQ sub menu
o add: hotkey-suspend; clone-specific override.. good for when one dies and you don't want it sending or receiving keys
o bug: improved transition times on mouse overs (thanks Freddie)
o add: Better Operational Organization Based on Selection with Justified Original Bearings (BOOBS JOB)
o add: pip-swap mash protection
o add: second hotkey general override
o add: performance enhancement
o add: keymap for auto-add'ed clients
o add: always-on-top flag for commands
o bug: PiP should not be allowed during override
o bug: maximizer layout editor should allow region name change without tabbing (save on lose focus)

[Diamndzngunz]

o bug: increase size of 'grabber' corners within the maximizer layout editor

Thank god.

[zanthor]

Thanks for Boobs Job! I setup my mages for some 2v2 action last night and despite my totally sucking nearly won a couple of matches! I'm 0-4 but one was 2% life left on the pally before the fucker bubbled... I need to get my mages gear up some ;).

[Taipan]

Greetings,

I updated to 1.8f and encountered a bug when mousing over one of my alts (upper left quarter of screen 2) : after a few clicks, the mouse would switch to Camera rotation, making the screen spinning around and impossible to click anywhere in that client. Mouse would move out to other clients but stay in Cam rotation for that client.
I had to cold-close the client through Vista bottom tab as the ing menu couldn't be clicked on with mouse.

Closed all 5 clients and KC, relaunched : same bug.

Closed all 5 clients and KC, rebooted PC, relaunched : same bug

Reversed to 1.8e : bug gone

I can't tell what's the cause but it happened with 1.8f and not with 1.8e.

One cosmetic difference I noticed about mouse over : when passing from one client to another, the mouse would do a very quick pause at the border under 1.8e.
With 1.8f, this pause happened about 1cm from border (on a 22" screen) but pause duration seemed the same.

/salute

[keyclone]

@Taipan

i saw the 'spiral of death' this morning... but was able to pull out of it before splashing down. only happened once and was unable to reproduce. do you have 'pass mouse clicks' enabled? i'm not sure what keyclone could do to get wow into 'camera rotation' mode...

hmm... could it be that you click-n-dragged... but were close to the edge of the window.. and somehow, keyclone thought you left the window before wow grabbed the mouse.. and as you moused around, the mouse click-down was still happening on the other screen. this would be a variation of the run aways... no 'up' event

hmm... i'll look into that shortly

[Taipan]

Greetings Keyclone,

So far I'm fine with sticking to the 1.8e version so no urgency to fix the the 1.8f as far as I'm concerned with mouse-overs.

I understand some of your latest customers are switching into "I paid for this and I want it to work NOW or else..." mode.

Screw them and if they're not happy, give them back their USD 20 and let them write their own software for Boxing.

Grrrr to this "I'm entitled to this and that" generation.

/salute

[Stack]

whats changed since we went from BOOB's to BOOB JOB? (1.8e to 1.8f?)

[keyclone]

BOOBS allowed you to hit a key and 2 windows would swap.. once per key press.

BOOBS JOB would only pip swap once... it would swap into the current region, the remote region you are asking for. repeated key presses would do nothing. hitting the key for the active region would return the original wow to its original region

[BobGnarly]

Let me make sure I understand.

I hit '3' and the toon in the 3rd region (second of my clones) swaps into the main area. If I continue to hit '3', nothing happens. If I hit '1' now, it reverts to its original layout?

Also, if after I hit '3', I hit '4', does it put 3 back in its original spot and swap 4 and 1 or does it just swap 3 and 4 at that time?

[keyclone]

it definitely twists the noodle...

assume you have 5 screens.. 1,2,3,4, and 5

1 is your main, and the others are in a 2x2 on another monitor.

you are active on 1

you hit 3... 3 and 1 swap ===> main: 3
you hit 3... nothing happens ===> main: 3
you hit 4... 1 and 4 swap, 3 and 4 swap ===> main: 4
you hit 4... nothing happens ===> main: 4

you hit 1... 4 and 1 swap ===> main: 1
you hit 1... nothing happens ===> main: 1

[PyrostasisTDK]

hey Rob, I saw the first line there, that I assume is for folks like me that play EQ2 and DAOC and such? Is that by command? or by window? Im installing EQ2 again to test this, if this has freed me from being forced to use innerspace I might just send you some hookers and beer

after looking through release the only part I see that talks about lock forground is the commands section... I thought that was simply how you executed different wow windows with maximizer, and as far as I know EQ2 and DAOC dont function with maximizer... I can actually set buttons up there that will force the windows to foreground?

I dont really understand that... what if Im pressing 1 to nuke on 6 toons, it will force them all to foreground? by that will it physically move it to foreground? or just speaking software wise, cause having 5 or 6 windows with out maximizer changing position... could get harry.

[Maxion]

Nah, he's talking about 1-5 as the buttons set up to swap the windows. Normally you would have some other keys set to swap them around.
Either way, you decide the buttons in your settings, so you wouldnt have to worry about it swapping if you want want it to.

[PyrostasisTDK]

I dont think
"o add: added lockInForeground capability to commands, useful for some games (UNTESTED)" has anything to do with the boobs system... but I could be wrong

[Maxion]

Ah right, thought you were replying to his last post, my bad ^^;

[PyrostasisTDK]

np fellow texan!

[PyrostasisTDK]

Ok rob, installed EQ2.
Maximizer works great, only issue with that is EQ2's minimum res is 1024x768 so a lot of stuff is off screen if you run small res, but thats easily fixable by moving your UI around.

However, lock foreground doesnt seem to work, keyclone does not pass keys between two clients. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help with this, this functionality is a HUGE desire for me.

**edit Always on top didnt seem to do it either.

[keyclone]

sorry.. 2 topics there.

yes, the LockInForeground is an attempt to help the EQ/EQ2 multi-instance folks. looks like it missed the mark, though (i wasn't able to test it before shipping v1.8f)... i try to resolve the issue for the next release

and yes.. blondes and beer always welcome ;)

[PyrostasisTDK]

appreciate the attempt, and Ill look forward to the new release. Once thats up and running Ill be able to start funneling DAOC and EQ2 people your way

[Tehtsuo]

I'm seeing a lot of ugly behavior with both my laptops, which are running two windows each. The mouse is jumping to the border of the window where it touches the other window, same as previous versions. I also now get the camera spinning that other's mention, and I can confirm it seems to happen if I click-and-drag to the edge of the window. It doesn't seem to affect single clicks, so I can loot, etc, but camera movement is problematic. Also, I'm noticing the mouse seems to be affected at random in this version, I get really fast cursor movement sometimes, and other times it's normal. However, I can't seem to track down a cause for it. I'll keep testing, always got 1.8e archived if I get too frustrated.

[Gallo]

PiP button mash protection.... MONEY! I only recently started actually using BOOBS and PiP, and I always found that annoying. You'd hit the key, feel like it didnt do anything, and hit it again... only to find out that the original keypress worked and the screen jumps 2 times.

Good work as always Rob.

[sventek]

Not sure where to start troubleshooting this one and I dont have a ton of info yet but ill post to see if anyone else has this issue.

Started a new group (1xpally, 3x priests) and doing setup and such I was using the PiP feature quite a bit. After swapping screens back and forth many times (10-20 or so) keyclone would crash leaving me to have to restart all instances or be stuck without PiP (and my screens in the wrong spots).

XP, 32bit
2.4ghz c2d
3gb ram
8800 gt 512mb
keyclone 1.8f (as this is the thread for it)

Ill try it some with my existing 3 group and see if I can recreate it or if it is just an issue with 4 accounts on my machine, but again, figured I would ask if anyone else has this issue or where to start troubleshooting.

[bbj]

on the spinning screen bit. ive had it happen to me on previous versions too.

to fix, move back to the window where the spinning is occurring. you'll notice that any kind of movement away form the edge only relsuts in a spin and the mouse jumping out of the screen. Ok, so move the mouse to the edge of that screen just enough so that you notice a small spinning movement. then right click and left click. You notic the spinning action is gone again and all is back to normal.

[Sentack]

I just got KeyClone working for the first time with my 3-man setup and the results were fantastic. My only complaint right now is the lack of strong documentation. Their's a lot of little 'how-to' type docs here on the forums and on the website talks about a few things, but it's obvious this product updates a lot and it's hard to keep up with all the changes.

So far so good. Now to figure out the macros and UI mods I need to get.

[Los]

Hi KC, sup!

Was wondering, did you change the key response timers a bit? Seems I have troubles sometimes that not all the toons get their proper keys presses. If I login for instance, since a few updates (or the last, i skipped a few im afraid, sorry i cant be more accurate), with the same password, 1 or more will get the notion that the password has been typed incorrectly. Mind you I type my passwords fast, so the risk of mistyping would be large. But! But normally at least one also logs in, thus meaning I did type my password correctly. Also the mouse is sluggish when hovering the wow windows (4 of them).

So my quesion, what could be wrong here?

(keep it up m8, keyclone rocks! still need to set up me boobbies, but cant wait to do so :P)

[sventek]

Not sure where to start troubleshooting this one and I dont have a ton of info yet but ill post to see if anyone else has this issue.

Started a new group (1xpally, 3x priests) and doing setup and such I was using the PiP feature quite a bit. After swapping screens back and forth many times (10-20 or so) keyclone would crash leaving me to have to restart all instances or be stuck without PiP (and my screens in the wrong spots).

XP, 32bit
2.4ghz c2d
3gb ram
8800 gt 512mb
keyclone 1.8f (as this is the thread for it)

Ill try it some with my existing 3 group and see if I can recreate it or if it is just an issue with 4 accounts on my machine, but again, figured I would ask if anyone else has this issue or where to start troubleshooting.


Finally had a few hours to try this out a bit, couldnt get it to crash again, so Ill write this off to one of the many mysteries of life. :D

[Djarid]

it definitely twists the noodle...

Hey Rob are you... Pastafarian? ;)