Setups for efficiently isk printing

[Voss]

I'm trying to find a setup which is worth to skill for or buy chars for. I can make with trading 1-2b per day, but this sucks after some days because of the order updates (150+ per run). Because of that I'm searching a setup which give me 1-2+ b in 1-3 hours to blow up expensive shit. Can you share here some efficiently setups?


What opportunities are there + benefits?


nullsec cosmic anomalies
More ships = faster cleared ano's


nullsec cosmic signatures
Easier and also faster cleared with more ships.


Faction Warfare
I didn't tried this. Would be interesting to hear benefits for boxer.


Incursions
Probably one of the best isk-generator. But i think HQ-sites are hard to manage with 10 ships...


What do you think is the best way for multiboxer to earn isk from the above listed opportunities? And which ship types/fitting should be used? For anomalies and complexes i think a Navy Dominix setup would be amazing because can handle/use all damage types + ranges up to 100km. But it could be that specialized ships are much better.


I hope for some answers and sorry for my english haha.

[Meeo]

Its pretty rough to be able to pull 1-2 bil in a 1-3 hour setup. Closest you may get may be Incursions VGs. You could potentially make it running C3/C4 Sleeper sites, but there is a lot of more risk there than running VGs in highsec.

Incursion HQs take 20-40 people to do which is a bit rough on a Multiboxer with only 10-12 toons. I personally run 12 toons, primarily for running sleeper sites/industrial stuff. I own nullsec space for my small team as a renter, running the anoms in a Military 5 system very much sucks only 30-50 mil an hour. I could make more stripping the Grav belts with 10 toons.

[Voss]

Its pretty rough to be able to pull 1-2 bil in a 1-3 hour setup. Closest you may get may be Incursions VGs. You could potentially make it running C3/C4 Sleeper sites, but there is a lot of more risk there than running VGs in highsec.

Incursion HQs take 20-40 people to do which is a bit rough on a Multiboxer with only 10-12 toons. I personally run 12 toons, primarily for running sleeper sites/industrial stuff. I own nullsec space for my small team as a renter, running the anoms in a Military 5 system very much sucks only 30-50 mil an hour. I could make more stripping the Grav belts with 10 toons.
When you only make 30-50 mil per hour in nullsec, then must be something wrong. You can make with one vindi 30-40 mil "ticks".

BTW: I didn't though that I will run a HQ with allone 10 toons ^^ 4-8 toons or something and the rest with other peoples.

[Meeo]

When you only make 30-50 mil per hour in nullsec, then must be something wrong. You can make with one vindi 30-40 mil "ticks".

Of course im doing something wrong thats a given - also failed to mention this is per toon not a aggregate of my isk per group(which the group sizes vary based onf laziness), i primarily use 2 Carriers per Horde. Max Payout for a Horde is 30-35 mil (minus any elite drone spawn) un-salvaged, also remember these are drones which do not have the same bounties as Sanctums or Havens, and no longer drop drone poo. i used to make 150-200 mil an hour chaining Sanctums.

I could be using T3/BS setups to run sites to make more iskies per hour, i just choose not to.

I'm at the mercy of where my alliance chooses to run operations, and im current stuck in the drone regions taking solar space. (Very boring i might add) Drone anoms suck.

[pinotnoir]

I have no idea what you are talking about. I guess that is why I am lost in the game. It seems like the main goal of the game is farming money.

[moog]

> It seems like the main goal of the game is farming money.

No! The main goal of the game is to have fun doing whatever you want to do.
Most of the things you want to do will require financial backing, though, due to the cost of ships, training, modules, ammo, fuel and subsequent replacements when you die to PVP/PVE.

Don't make ISK your primary goal, that's turning Eve into a job - decide what you'd like to do and then determine how much ISK you need to go down that road and then work out how to earn that so you can achieve your goal.

If you're so new to Eve that you don't know what you want to do, you probably want to join an active corp and do stuff with them, so you get to see a bit of the Eve universe and do different things.

If you're playing on your own, I can understand why Eve is so frustrating - it really is the least 'noob friendly' MMO out there.
To get an idea of how the game works, you really need to play with people and do stuff.

I've been playing Eve on and off since 2006 and there's still lots of stuff I don't know about, eg: I've never done Incursions (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Incursions)(the 5/10/20/40/80 man PVE content); I've never done any Wormhole (http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Living_in_Wormhole_Space) stuff; I've never PVPd, so no Red v Blue (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Red_Vs_Blue_(RvB)) or Faction Warfare (http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Factional_Warfare);

At the moment, I enjoy multiboxing anomolies (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Cosmic_Anomaly) with my Battleships. I have my multibox mining fleet to a) mine for the corp and thus secure my place in null space and thus access to anomolies and b) earn ISK to pay for my current needs.

[Zzyzxx71]

I very easily make from 120-150mil/hour doing anoms with 2 sentry carriers. I've considered adding a 3rd to the team, but I doubt I would gain that much as far as efficiency. I currently wipe out hordes in about 10 minutes. Depending on how accurate my warp in is and getting to my optimal range (NPC turrets within 86k) determines the maximum amount of isk/hour.

[Morganti]

Voss, when you quit trading let me know where you were doing it and what you were trading ;) I make a good income trading, but 1-2bil a DAY?? THAT is printing money!

[Voss]

I know one, who do the same thing in a larger scale. This guy make 4-8b per day... I don't have the time for that and it doesn't works when you only play in the evening like me. And you must manage more then 600 orders i think.

Topic:
I like to "farm" isk if i can enjoy the pvp/oreverythingelse after that. Thats the reason why I search an efficiently build/setup for max isk/hour. Short work - long fun.

[Jayunit]

VG's is easy and peaceful, C5-6 WH's are the best isk in the game. It requires fewer characters so less plex overhead, but you have the risk of not D-scanning and getting jumped by a gang of WH invaders.

[Voss]

What should I use in a C5-6 WH? And can you make much money without T3 production?

[pinotnoir]

I am setting up 4 miners and a hauler for null corporate mining. My goal is to pay for the plex on all then build on other aspects of the game. After I get mining down where should I branch off too?

[LordsServant]

What should I use in a C5-6 WH? And can you make much money without T3 production?

Firstpost here.

I'm just getting used to how damn powerful Isboxer is. I currently live in whspace, and am quite familiar with the tactics.

I do absolutely no t3 production - you make piles of isk even without it.

What you need for c5/c6 escalations are:

2x Turret based dreads (moros were previously the best, nowadays I'd say nag is the best)
2x Carriers (one should be a triage archon, second one doesn't matter at all.)
1-2x Webbing Lokis (3-5 webs, 0-2 painters - you can fit painters on dreads if you only have 1 loki)
1x T2 skirmish boost (this is absolutely required.)

Each capital you warp in spawns 6-8 BS(Sleepless Guardians), which deal a pile of dps, neut heavily, and will fuck you up in short order if you don't know what you're doing or are improperly fit.

You warp in webbing loki(s), 1 dread, and 1 carrier to start.

Kill most/all of the Sleepless Guardians, then warp in 2nd dread. Kill most/all of the sleepless guardians, then warp in your 2nd carrier, kill the remaining sleepless guardians. Kill all the remaining ships EXCEPT for the trigger for the next wave (use eve-survival or ask someone who knows, I cba to post em all here).

Leave the trigger alone, warp to next site, rinse, repeat. If you don't kill the trigger, you can "farm" each site for a maximum of 4 days from the first day you initiate warp to it. Each site is worth approx 600-800m depending on how many nanoribbons drop etc etc. You are guaranteed 560m (28 Sleepless Guardians x 20m in "blue tags" from each) just from looting the wrecks. This is your main income, these tags are purchased by NPC buy orders for set amounts. Melted nanoribbons are the only salvage loot worthwhile from the wrecks, and you get those from salvaging. You occasionally get random t2 salvage too.

You kill stuff by using your loki(s) to web down the sleepless BS 1-2 at a time. You paint them (either with dread or lokis), and this allows the dreads to apply most of their dps. This sounds silly, but dread DPS(or large numbers of subcaps) is needed in order to make these sites at all runnable quickly.

You ONLY get a max of 4 escalations - 2 for each unique carrier, 2 for each unique dread, and these are ONLY from capitals, you do not get them from subcaps.

The risk? You have no local, and at any time (I'm not gonna go in depth into WH mechanics here, you should read up on them and be knowledgeable before trying this) people can roll into your WH. What this means is that a fleet of bloodthirsty pvpers can come out of literally nowhere at literally any time and pwn the fuck outta you(this is what us PVPers in wspace do for fun). ;)

There are ways of mitigating this, but I'd rather not make this post too long atm, those are the basics.

I haven't ever multiboxed this in it's entirety, but I've multiboxed 1 carrier/1 dread/1 booster/1 loki before, not the easiest.

This is one high income way I know of, but unfortunately cannot do solo (I do it regularly with my corp/alliance tho) due to lack of chars.

Anyone else know any other ways of printing isk? I contributed a guide, would appreciate others doing something similar, I can post other ways I'm knowledgeable in, but would rather not be the only one doing so(and I would <3 ppl for posting alternate ideas - I really want to know what I can do with multiboxing.) ;)

[Morganti]

Nice post Lords! I could bring 2 dreads, a booster, and a carrier to that party, but yeah, that's a lot to multibox (and sleepers are just mean).

I'm still making "easy" money doing regional trading, but it's not the most fun thing to do in the game imo.

With the upcoming changes to ice (and the added scarcity) I'd be willing to be multiboxing ice mining will make some good money soon.

[EaTCarbS]

With the upcoming changes to ice (and the added scarcity) I'd be willing to be multiboxing ice mining will make some good money soon.

It already is!