Late 2011 MacBook Pro issues

[katielynn]

Ok i did a search on the forums for a similar issue but did not find it.

2011 Q4 MacBook Pro 17

i7 2760q
ati 6770hd
8gig ram

windows 7 64 in boot camp

external screen 19in 1600x900res

mac has lid closed and mac screen off

all wows are at 5fps with foreground 30fps all settings are low with a 1600x642 res

4 box

temps in Celsius
core #1: 99
core #2: 100
core #3: 97
core #4: 100

cpu: 78

room temp of 76F cant be any cooler i have lizards, snakes and exotic corals and fish.

i turned my multiplyer down to 50% meaning 16x clock i believe.

temps in Celsius
core #1: 90
core #2: 87
core #3: 89
core #4: 91

cpu: 78

reduced performace by alot but lower temps

now for the question. is that to hot and has anyone had any issues with this model when boxing.
i found on WoW forums that patch 5.0.1 or something messed with macs.

[shadewalker]

I would strongly suggest not running with the lid closed, I don't think the cooling is that great on the MBP, and running with the lid closed will only make the issue worse.

You used to be able to close the lid and put the machine to sleep, plug in your external display and mouse / keyboard and wake the machine up, then open the lid and the laptop display would stay off. I know this works on OS X but i am not sure about windows.

You may want to also download the latest graphics drivers for nvida (I think thats what those macs have right?) If the nvida drivers have something that will allow you to increase the fan speed you could try that too (you may need a 3rd party sofware for that though)

[shadewalker]

Oh, also the issues with Mac version of wow will not affect you since you are running the windows version with bootcamp

[katielynn]

lol i stuck it out side its 32f out and it worked well fan speed was 1000rpm and temp was 70-80c lid closed. but ya those were all with lid open and the temps didn't seem to matter. they where consistent.

[MiRai]

lol i stuck it out side its 32f out and it worked well
Haha nice!

[shadewalker]

So now all you need is a mini fridge to keep the laptop in ;)

[katielynn]

i have one but its on the other side of the room with roomies lizard on top of it. also my x16 is now x8 lol not sure what i did but its working 75c in sw

[katielynn]

Still dealing with this issue but i think i found where to start! when in boot camp it was forcing my cpu to run at 100% idle x32 multiplier so changed that to 10% of cpu usage and my cores are in the high 70s haven't put a load on it yet but that is next.

If issue remains of 100c constant i will adjust my multiplier down till i don't go past 90c maximum operating temp is 100c

about a x18 multiplier with 4 wows thats plenty no lag or issues any where i tested it but since i found that it was at 100% all the time i may not need to now.

[shadewalker]

What are you using to control the multiplier?

Do you have the latest drivers installed for bootcamp?

I have one of the 2009 models and I have never run into anything like this.

[katielynn]

well now the issue is x8 multiplier in wow (fine with wow exited at 32x) and id didnt to anything i just reverted what i did and still messed up. i was using realtemp and i think that messed it up.

unless my not genuine version of 7 is the issue. stupid thing wont accept my key saying cant use on fresh partition.

also if u go into the power settings u can set usage to 99% and it runs a 20 something for the multiplier.

[katielynn]

edit note i was live streaming at 720 to:

Ok issues fixed thanks to lax's help

macs like to throttle the cpu no matter what u do to fix that run: ThrottleStop by tech inferno.
as for heat not sure yet i have drilled holes in my case on the bottem so it has an intake also lifted it off the desk.
i use Coretemp cpuz gpuz and intel extreme tuner to moniter all heat and settings.

in AV boss fights and pvp fights i run 90c at 14x multiplier 4 boxing lowest settings 17fps forground 5fps background.

if u download throttlestop un check "BD PROCHOT" but make sure u watch your temps.

[katielynn]

Ok so i decided i would fixing my MacBook Pro 17 today (this should work for every Intel-Mac) and with lots of help from Lax we found a fix.

Issues:

high temps on cpu 90-100c
cpu multiplier going to x8 instead of stock x32 resulting in 800mhz cpu in WoW. (Mac ignores throttling shut off)


Programs used:

Cpu-z
Gpu-z
Intel Extreme Tuning Utility
Cpuid Hardware Moniter
CoreTemp
ThrottleStop
Prime95

Laptop:

2011 Late MacBook Pro 17
i7-2760QM 2.40ghz
8.00 gigram
no external monitor
1920x1200 res
5000gb 5200rpm hdd
bootcamp win7 ult 64bit


Testings of maximums:

This Screen shot is absolute maximum for multiplier with out throttling. (this is not gaming max this is just what this laptop can handle)
http://imageshack.us/a/img831/3820/maxcpucanhandle.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/maxcpucanhandle.png/)

Note the x18 multiplier and 95-98c temps. (anthing over 98c causes throttling.)
Yes, i know this is a 2.4ghz cpu but with stock cooling it can only run 1.8ghz max.



For this step Make Sure you have some Temp Monitering Software to make sure ur gpu and cpu dont over heat!!!!


Now how do i control Throttling and my Multiplier?
This is done with ThrottleStop.
http://imageshack.us/a/img138/4987/throttlestop.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/138/throttlestop.png/)
Bullets on the top are the different settings u can have for example 1. for gaming 2. movie watching 3. idle 4. battery power

Now to set it up:

Leave Clock Modulation and Chipset Clock Mod unchecked
Check Set Multiplier and adjust it to what u want it at. (WARNING never exced OEM clocks unless u know what ur doing) In my case i under clocked it from 32x to 14x so it wouldnt over heat.
Check Power Saver (This lets the multiplier change to a lower setting when the system isnt using full cpu power.)
Uncheck BD PROCHOT (Not sure what it is but i found it my issue with my Muliplier stuck at 8x.) (Throttling CPU)
Now click Save.
Click Turn On

There you go your multiplier is set so it wont be throttled.



Now for my Tests i did.

This is a 10 minute idle test to get a base line.
http://imageshack.us/a/img560/9986/10minidletest.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/10minidletest.png/)
Everything seemed fine temps were all normal.


5 Minute stress Test.
http://imageshack.us/a/img22/3991/5mintourtureteststresst.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/22/5mintourtureteststresst.png/)
Once again everything looks ok temps are high but not to high that i have to worry.


Cool down before WoW Test.
http://imageshack.us/a/img831/6370/cooldownbetweenstressan.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/cooldownbetweenstressan.png/)
Everything is cooled down and back to normal.


WoW settings and IsBoxer Cpu settings.
http://imageshack.us/a/img850/279/wowsettings.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/wowsettings.png/)
http://imageshack.us/a/img812/5683/isboxersettings.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/isboxersettings.png/)


Now for WoW idle Test.
http://imageshack.us/a/img835/1341/wowatidle.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/835/wowatidle.png/)
Once again everything is running Great!


Final WoW pvp Test.
http://imageshack.us/a/img27/4988/afteravwin.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/27/afteravwin.png/)
All temps are normal temp little high but with poor cooling on the macbook pros you cant expect better.

Also this setting allows me to turn my multiplier up to 16x or leave it at 14x and livestream and watch netflix with out over heating.


If you have any questions let me know or if im missing something or have a misspelling or what not.

[katielynn]

Make this a Sticky maybe?

[Khatovar]

Threads merged. Keep like issues together, it doesn't help people to have to redirect to another thread to follow an issue from start to fix.

[katielynn]

the issue with that is the title saying issue with macbook pro not all mac that are intel base plus shouldnt the tutorial be first post also some things in there were not said in this forum post. maybe im wrong but with 100s off ppl that have this issue isnt this just burring it alittle.

maybe a better way would have been to merge it the opposite way. with the main post being the first instead of the last.