DKs are back.....

[Fat Tire]

Necrotic stirke scales with pvp power against players better in 5.1. I am getting 80k ish absorbs with 1 necrotic.

Only against players, you wont see it against a target dummy etc.

[Oatboat]

Yeah even at 85 i was killing some pvp geared 90 druids recently aslong as i keep their big heals locked down those necrotics were eating their rejuvs

[zenga]

Yeah even at 85 i was killing some pvp geared 90 druids recently aslong as i keep their big heals locked down those necrotics were eating their rejuvs

That is honestly a very poor indication since stats scaling works totally different among the different level caps (dks at lvl 80 for example can solo stuff that a lvl 90 dk cant solo).

[Owltoid]

Wow, that seems really OP. I'm having a ton of fun with enhancement shamans but 80k necrotic strikes seem like a better choice. Did they not scale in 5.05?

[heyaz]

How much pvp power are you up to?

[Oatboat]

That is honestly a very poor indication since stats scaling works totally different among the different level caps (dks at lvl 80 for example can solo stuff that a lvl 90 dk cant solo).

Well considering that healing has been a bit OP for a while it was a pleasant surprise to be able to fight back

[Fat Tire]

How much pvp power are you up to?

56% - 14800+

For 80k-90k I had on use trinket popped

[heyaz]

I'm curious how you're getting 80k absorbs, your gear must be amazing.

I tested myself now, not fully geared but:

45% PVP Power vs 55% Resilience player

Average NS absorb - 24-29k
With trinket + pillar of frost + fallen crusader - 45-50k

This is based off of the tooltip on the affected player, not sure if it's accurate. On a target dummy I am hitting about the same numbers :/

[Fat Tire]

I'm curious how you're getting 80k absorbs, your gear must be amazing.



481 Human so double trinket, not exactly sure what to tell you but its changed. 70k absorbs are common

Edit: Apparently ns has scaled really well with pvp power before, its only now that pvp power has been upped on weapons(5.1) that I and other people are seeing these absorbs.

[heyaz]

I believe you... so you said DKs are back.. where did they go? They have been pretty strong.

You did prefix the post [3v3] - you mean running triple frost is viable now?

[Lyonheart]

I have not even done one BG at 90 yet! going to have to fire up my DKs and get them dudes leveled! never had more fun in PvP than with them..glad they doing good still 8)

[remanz]

hm, so i should gem all pvp power again ? I just swapped all to resilience following everybody else. darn.

[Shodokan]

I foresee unholy becoming stronger with this change. (this is labeled 3v3). Running a bloodtap build and managing to get 4 necrotics before blowing cds for burst will be great for frost as well.

Stacking dks for 5's still isn't viable since you don't get multiple absorbs and only 1 (healing would heal through X amount per application of NS per person). Our damage with oblit is still good but our control is dogshit.

It will make TSG, PHD, Liberty, Scleave, Ebola and such better but I don't think it will make them absolutely absurd considering the complete lack of CC we still have (90 talent being a joke).

Dk's are only better in 3v3 because everything else was nerfed... just like rogues are back (kinda) because warriors aren't quite as absurd and hunters got buff/nerfed (no more BM really).

Dk's will still have a hard time with heavy burst comps and unless they have AMS for after trinketing a deep vs MLS or for Demo lock burst in general they're a sitting duck since they don't really have much defensive in general and so many more people are running wit demo locks now.

I think that DK's strongest comps are currently;
Ebola/Scleave > TSG > PHD/Liberty

Back to NS; The absorb PVP power coefficient didn't go up on NS... like you said there just more available.... you want to see absurd? Wait till heroic double upgraded weapons go on warriors/ferals/rets.

4 necrotics (one toon) + oblit burst + demo burst = instawin basically if you can get it to all connect.