Some enhancement arena stuff

[Kruschpakx4]

Hey guys, I've thrown together a few arena clips


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxTgpkM3eMU&feature=channel&list=UL

Sometimes macros werent working as expected, just in case you notice when I'm standing there doing nothing :p

[heyaz]

that enhancement melee instagib from 30 yards away is so f'ing awesome

wtb clip of the 15 ssec of ascendance with game sound instead of euro trance...just to hear what it sounds like to make people explode

[Kruschpakx4]

yeah ascendance stormblast and autohits sound pretty cool, but I haven frapsed gamesound, but I might do that for the next movie

[Shodokan]

Nice job.

[Owltoid]

wow. I wasn't ever tempted to roll elemental shamans - something about them always turned me off. However, you're really wetting the whistle for enhance and I'm almost sold. Do you think the team would be successful for someone with a lower skillcap and not quite at leet of a healer?

[Ualaa]

Or for someone who plays the healer as well as the DPS?
Not necessarily in arena, but possibly there and in battlegrounds etc...

[Barazanthul]

Nice vid. THinking about reactivating my accounts ... but i think i won't stand the geargrind -.-

Ohh and gz on 1900 something.

[Feehza]

wow. I wasn't ever tempted to roll elemental shamans - something about them always turned me off. However, you're really wetting the whistle for enhance and I'm almost sold. Do you think the team would be successful for someone with a lower skillcap and not quite at leet of a healer?

Absolutely, Nox doing very well in arena and battleground with 5x Enhance.

[ebony]

nice nice burst u got there! very cool!

[johny_mnemonic]

nice vid,it reminds me so much aoubt the Ellays videos and his quad-ele. Only the fights took a little bit longer now.

[Multibocks]

so badass!

[Shodokan]

Its really funny to see that it basically turns into... instagib wait 3 mins and repeat vs 2 healer teams.

[Kruschpakx4]

Only the fights took a little bit longer now.

sure, quad enhancement cant outdps mail/plate against two healers, but if you stick on a mage for example he cant do shit except kiting and outfaking 4 shocks, so if you manage to oneshot someone (and thats quite easy with t1 weps), you just stick on a random caster and drain him until ascendance is ready again, ofc its harder if you got a double heal (no priest) and war/hunter/dk, but anyway I'm still trying out new stuff and so far it works exceptionally well, i.e. just found out chainheal can get tripled by echo, so 12 targets getting healed instead of 4, chainheal with 5 maelstorm heals my group for 70k (per toon) and up to 200k with triple procc (15% chance)

[heyaz]

Krucsh how does this hold up in BGs with your gear level? I know the instagib is only about every 3 min, but targets are usually easier to kill in BGs even if outside that window just because they're less organized, less gear, etc.

I checked your armory and I thought you had a lot more gear than you did (like full malevolent).... I've saved all my conquest points so far and wondering if I should give it a shot (would have enough points for weps and helm, rest would be honor). Just for BGs now.

[Kruschpakx4]

battlegrounds are pretty easy, you got a oneshot for fc every 3 minutes and people sometimes die from stormstrike/lava lash combo, having a lot of fun in bgs these days even though I'm not even close to full gear

[Shodokan]

Quick question: How much damage loss on the initial target is there for your ascendance + stormstrike+lava lash? (in most fights i see you do not use instant elemental blast and have improved elementals) if you remove one shaman? I assume only do about 75% hp?

[heyaz]

Quick question: How much damage loss on the initial target is there for your ascendance + stormstrike+lava lash? (in most fights i see you do not use instant elemental blast and have improved elementals) if you remove one shaman? I assume only do about 75% hp?

correct me if I'm wrong but that is simply stormbolt (ascendance stormstrike) + earth shock and possibly a stormlash totem + auto attack but I can't tell if he drops it. Lava lash doesn't get the 30 yard range during ascendance. What I think I am seeing is stormbolt (like a quadruple stormstrike pretty much), windfury, and a shock.

[Kruschpakx4]

its stormlash totem and then stormblast, stormblast+auto hit+stormlash deals about 90k damage per toon vs 60% resilience, because you will mostly have 1-2 lightning shield proccs, 2-4 elemental force, 3-5 stormlash, windfury, all together deals like 200k vs non resilience per toon in half a second ... and yeah if something survives earthshock with +25% crit chance afterwards

I'm not using elemental blast for the moment because I save all the maelstorm proccs for heals only, I've also used EM with ascendance but I feel thats kinda waste, I'm currently trying out echo + chainheal, and as it seems now I'll most likely replace all my healing surge macros with chainheal except for the healer, its really crazy 4x chainheal sometimes heals the group for ~60%, thats currently god mode in bgs

[Shodokan]

its stormlash totem and then stormblast, stormblast+auto hit+stormlash deals about 90k damage per toon vs 60% resilience, because you will mostly have 1-2 lightning shield proccs, 2-4 elemental force, 3-5 stormlash, windfury, all together deals like 200k vs non resilience per toon in half a second ... and yeah if something survives earthshock with +25% crit chance afterwards

I'm not using elemental blast for the moment because I save all the maelstorm proccs for heals only, I've also used EM with ascendance but I feel thats kinda waste, I'm currently trying out echo + chainheal, and as it seems now I'll most likely replace all my healing surge macros with chainheal except for the healer, its really crazy 4x chainheal sometimes heals the group for ~60%, thats currently god mode in bgs

Thanks. That made me decide on how to build my next team.

Do you fear a healing nerf?

[remanz]

awesome video. Seems like killing without CD is tough. and instagib some lurker out of the gate is great.
The part where 4 earth elemental run them out of the pillar was really hilarious.

[heyaz]

i've watched that paladin and hunter get instagibbed over and over

never gets old

[tanknspanker]

how do you handle the mealstorm ?.. using a mosg2 setup? or manually select them spells?

i tried this:
#show Lightning Bolt
/stopcasting
/cast lightning bolt

but them shammys keep trying to cast and stop hitting :O

[Fat Tire]

Thanks. That made me decide on how to build my next team.

Do you fear a healing nerf?

2 hours ago
@Ghostcrawler (https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler) can you elaborate on the changes to pvppower affecting off-heal for ret/feral/enh since they have 60k mana and require ramp up

Greg Street ‏@Ghostcrawler (https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler);Twitter We are trying to nerf those off-heals in PvP. We think they are too good.

[heyaz]

they really need to nerf shaman more
and off heals. shaman need to die faster. especially elemental. I mean those 30k off heals with 30% pvp power? WAYYYY OP

[Shodokan]

2 hours ago
@Ghostcrawler (https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler) can you elaborate on the changes to pvppower affecting off-heal for ret/feral/enh since they have 60k mana and require ramp up

Greg Street ‏@Ghostcrawler (https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler);Twitter We are trying to nerf those off-heals in PvP. We think they are too good.

Yeah thats what i feared.

[remanz]

Screw Greg. Always mess with what we want to play, Paladin/Shamans.





http://i.imgur.com/JtNCR.jpg

[Fat Tire]

In my opinion the hybird healing change helps boxers.

[heyaz]

how so? we won't be able to heal ourselves as effectively and will be much more reliant on a dedicated healer. It only helps when trying to score kills on other hybrids.

[Kruschpakx4]

well it wont be that bad, I'm currently doing 55k healing surges so 40k without the 38% pvp power, nothing game breaking as long as they dont nerf the maelstorm glyph

[Nikita]

Ele shamans are doing 38 k healing surges with 43 %, and they want to nerf hybrid healing..

Just wondering, how can you be close to 2000 rating in 5v5 with 51 % w/l ratio?

[heyaz]

Ele shamans are doing 38 k healing surges with 43 %, and they want to nerf hybrid healing..

You easily go oom or just die trying to heal 38k at a time with 10% crit rate. The only time I can keep a shaman alive with healing surge is if all 4 target one guy. And they still go oom fast.

[Kruschpakx4]

Just wondering, how can you be close to 2000 rating in 5v5 with 51 % w/l ratio?

because I played a shitload of games when I had no tier 1 weapons, testing with several healers, 5 dps ect, was below 50% until t1 weps and dedicated healer

w/l also doesnt affect rating, if I have 50% winratio against 2k teams I end up at 2k, if I have 50% winratio against 1.6 I end up at 1,6

[Shodokan]

because I played a shitload of games when I had no tier 1 weapons, testing with several healers, 5 dps ect, was below 50% until t1 weps and dedicated healer

w/l also doesnt affect rating, if I have 50% winratio against 2k teams I end up at 2k, if I have 50% winratio against 1.6 I end up at 1,6

Exactly

You can get glad with 50% win/loss There was a kittycleave that did on my bg last season that had like 3000 games played.

[djensen2010]

Thanks. That made me decide on how to build my next team.

Do you fear a healing nerf?

Watcha thinkin my man?

[Ellay]

Very nice Krusch. I am looking for a reason to come back as Shamans and nothing else. This might be enough for me :)
Thanks for the video. It is appreciated.

[tanknspanker]

how do you handle the mealstorm ?.. using a mosg2 setup? or manually select them spells?

i tried this:
#show Lightning Bolt
/stopcasting
/cast lightning bolt

but them shammys keep trying to cast and stop hitting :O

as i didnt got an answer i feel like reposting my question ^^ soz

grtz!

[Kruschpakx4]

how do you handle the mealstorm ?.. using a mosg2 setup? or manually select them spells?

i tried this:
#show Lightning Bolt
/stopcasting
/cast lightning bolt

but them shammys keep trying to cast and stop hitting :O

I dont have lightning bolt in my action bar^^, only using maelstorm for heals

currently using power auras, it shows me maelstorm proccs on toons once they have 5 stacks

[tanknspanker]

thx ;-)

[heyaz]

Do you have a track list? Particularly track 2!!

[Kruschpakx4]

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[zenga]

Ele shamans are doing 38 k healing surges with 43 %, and they want to nerf hybrid healing..

You do know that ele shaman healing is boosted by clearcasting state right? 50% more effective and 25% cheaper ...

[Owltoid]

Enhancement healing is pretty piss poor anymore. I have a feeling they're going to increase hybrid healing, at least for shamans, because it's pointless at the moment.

[Lyonheart]

Enhancement healing is pretty piss poor anymore. I have a feeling they're going to increase hybrid healing, at least for shamans, because it's pointless at the moment.

This nerf to hybrid healing was PvP right? all my hybrids seem to heal like crazy in PvE.. palies..shaman..druid..monk..etc..

[MiRai]

This nerf to hybrid healing was PvP right? all my hybrids seem to heal like crazy in PvE.. palies..shaman..druid..monk..etc..
At level 90?

[Lyonheart]

At level 90?

yea.. i was wondering.. everything i read seems to say it was a PvP power nerf and how it works with healing for hybrid, no?

[Owltoid]

It's the combo of the hybrid healing nerf and the -30% to all healers... makes the heals pretty worthless for my toons. They can still survive for a decent amount of time, probably mostly due to the grounding and capacitor totems, but it's not like it was before where a full round of maelstrom stacked heals would get any toon back to full. It seems like it's only about 40% of a toons health, which isn't a lot.

[Mosg2]

How bad has the offhealing nerf affected the 4x Enhance in arena? This is a pretty enticing reason to return :)

[Owltoid]

heh, I'm confused, the offhealing nerf is a reason to continue? I'm guessing the DK team was being frustrated by hybrid healers? For what it's worth, healers in general are much easier to kill right now. That -30% debuff hurts 'em.

[Mosg2]

Obviously not the nerf, I just mean the video etc. It didn't seem like it was the offhealing that'd make or break this team.

[ebony]

all i know is in pvp hybrid healing does not use pvp power bouns.


at the end of the day its not about being god mode becouse that would be unfair and kinda boring its more can i take on my own wight in groups. and heal up after i killed the other side.


my deathkights seem to be doing well just not that happy with them. the lack off brust is so meh!!!! the hpally on the group feels to weak spamming heals on it nonstop hoping to not die or being made to bubble it goes down so fast!.
Just feels like am walking round with a big + that everything targets.

with wow on sale might do a new RAF group to 80.

1 warrior 4 ech shams should be fun in pvp and tank 3 ele/4ele for pve.



something else i need to know is can three 3 ech shams have the burst (GCD) a player. just something am thinking.

[Owltoid]

With the best PvP gear against a semi geared toon I'm guessing three could take out a toon in one shot, but they may need some echo of elements procs to do so. I love having four, personally. Remember that you're not just killing with that initial hit, all 15 seconds you are a deadly force. If you're not CC'd then you will take out 2-3 players with relative ease.

My current stats are super shitty weapons, 40% mastery, 30% PvP power, double on use trinket so that 40 out of 60 seconds I'm rolling with the buff. That day when I can upgrade all toons 413 ilvl offhand weapon will be a good day.

[ebony]

With the best PvP gear against a semi geared toon I'm guessing three could take out a toon in one shot, but they may need some echo of elements procs to do so. I love having four, personally. Remember that you're not just killing with that initial hit, all 15 seconds you are a deadly force. If you're not CC'd then you will take out 2-3 players with relative ease.

My current stats are super shitty weapons, 40% mastery, 30% PvP power, double on use trinket so that 40 out of 60 seconds I'm rolling with the buff. That day when I can upgrade all toons 413 ilvl offhand weapon will be a good day.

sounds epic. am still scard about a nulf on them. my testing on my own 3 healing tides are very strong heal (ptr test) it would give me a ele spec as well and it would open me up to healing as well. my hunters are not doing bad though and i really like them so it be a hard choice for me.