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heyaz
11-13-2012, 01:22 PM
Figured I'd post a screenshot of this. This is the uninstanced version of Jade Temple, the quest chain you get in Jade Forest. The water elementals are not aggressive so you can get yourself set up easily, they spawn endlessl from multiple locations and the XP per hour is very good without having to deal with the monkey grinding.

I used this location for a few bars here and there from 85-90, but from 88.5-90 I did it nonstop for several hours. Ended up being <5 hours for 89-90 completely unrested with guild banner.

With casters you could easily pull the whole room, I think ele shaman would do excellent here. With DKs I had to setup a way where I could get everything but eventually I got it to where it was non-stop, zero downtime, always 5-10 elementals.

The drops are also great, you can go back there and farm motes even at 90 if you haven't turned in the final quest. We're talking 5+ motes a minute from these guys, maybe more. My bags filled up and I was just trying to hit 90 so I quit looting at some point but I remember looting up to 16 motes at once after a few big pulls.

I ended up with 27 spirits (270 motes) from this in a few levels, I've no doubt if I looted nonstop I'd have more like 50-75. This would be an excellent spot to bring in Jeeves and use your guild bank cooldown to offload all the crap they drop and keep your motes and boe greens to vendor or disenchant.

So here's how I setup to farm with DK's. I used a couple macros to random target enemies, pull and kill with howling blast and finish everything off with frost strike. Death strike was used to keep them topped off at all times, no healer required. Death and Decay was used to pull the mobs behind me - I simply had three DKs have their camera angle turned around.

cmeche
11-13-2012, 01:43 PM
I love this place. Did at least 3 lvls while getting my shaman to 90. Working on my DKs now. Even nonrested is way faster than questing. Biggest problem is my spam finger gets numb after a while.... Lol.
I also freely pvp here without the thought of getting mobbed by a group of 90s.
Crazy thing is after about 5 mins of grinding here, it seems that the mobs start spawning faster.

Lyonheart
11-13-2012, 01:54 PM
I still have not found this quest. I went back and just started doing all the quests in the zone with my 90 pal..i was hoping you could get it early and skip a lot of the quests. At what point in the zone progression do you get this, or the starting quest? Middle, end?

crowdx
11-13-2012, 02:06 PM
I still have not found this quest. I went back and just started doing all the quests in the zone with my 90 pal..i was hoping you could get it early and skip a lot of the quests. At what point in the zone progression do you get this, or the starting quest? Middle, end?

Correct me if I am wrong but from what I recall this is part of a quest line and I presume the original poster is simply not handing in the quest when completed?

heyaz
11-13-2012, 02:08 PM
I love this place. Did at least 3 lvls while getting my shaman to 90. Working on my DKs now. Even nonrested is way faster than questing. Biggest problem is my spam finger gets numb after a while.... Lol.
I also freely pvp here without the thought of getting mobbed by a group of 90s.
Crazy thing is after about 5 mins of grinding here, it seems that the mobs start spawning faster.

Yeah I did this for 7 or 8 hours straight yesterday, my DKs were at 88.5 and I wanted to get in a few conquest points from BGs and some 2v2 arena before close otherwise I'd wait another week before I'd be able to get weapons. Definitely numb fingers, nearly fell asleep a couple of times, but it was definitely worth it.

There are very few people in here because it's phased, if they don't have the quest they can't get in, if they've completed it they can't get in. A few horde ran by and observed, one tried to tag my mobs and have me kill them, at which time I stopped DPS and let all his tagged mobs kick the crap out of him, and he left. Some others tried to farm but realized I was tagging everything so they gave up. Had 2-3 alliance show up and get death gripped and howling blasted due to my macro and random target spamming. Most of them ran for their lives.

One 88 paladin played rambo and I heard gladiosa announce avenging wrath and a ton of cooldowns, he runs into my swarm of elementals, I couldn't even see or target him but i got gibbed by the aoe. Was pretty funny :)

It is odd they do seem to start spawning faster. When I get there at first, there's only 6-10 elementals across the entire area. As I pull they seem to spawn faster and faster until I'm waiting for D&D cooldown to finish so I can pull the ones behind me. Once I got the pulls going I never had less than 6-10 elementals on me no matter how fast I was killing them.

heyaz
11-13-2012, 02:13 PM
I still have not found this quest. I went back and just started doing all the quests in the zone with my 90 pal..i was hoping you could get it early and skip a lot of the quests. At what point in the zone progression do you get this, or the starting quest? Middle, end?


It's maybe a third or half way through Jade Forest. You're going to do all the starter quests obviously, then all the stuff with the Hozen, including the stupid scenarios that are difficult to box, the dude in the cave that makes you follow him to a bunch of shrines, the area where you kill alliance intruders, bomb the fish looking dudes in front of town, collect logs off the ground, etc. Shortly after that area you'll get a quest to jade temple and it begins.

Feel free to do all the quests there - set off fireworks, collect the little dragons, kill the bookworms, etc. Go to the water elemental guy, loot the staff, even turn the quest into him and it won't end it. It only ends when you turn in the final quest (from the water guy) to the panda at the quest hub in the temple. I dropped that quest so I wouldn't turn it in accidentally.

Also, and this cost me an hour, once you leave, since it's actually an phase on top of what is normally a regular area with an instance, you have to talk to a female panda just up the stairs and she will teleport you into the phased version. That's how you get back in at any time. Once you're in, turn left to the hallway with water, and there are the elementals.

I really, really wish I knew about this on m shaman; they've been 90 for weeks but I cannot get back in... those guys could tear up the place, perhaps the mobs would spawn even faster.

Also, the water elementals drop every JC meta pattern, after only an hour or two thre you will have the pattern to cut every single meta, even the weird ones. I ended up with at least 16 different patterns, and enough to pass to my alts in case they go JC as well. If you happen to be missing some JC meta patterns, grind there for an hour and you'll have them all.

crowdx
11-13-2012, 02:17 PM
Yeah I did this for 7 or 8 hours straight yesterday, my DKs were at 88.5 and I wanted to get in a few conquest points from BGs and some 2v2 arena before close otherwise I'd wait another week before I'd be able to get weapons. Definitely numb fingers, nearly fell asleep a couple of times, but it was definitely worth it.

There are very few people in here because it's phased, if they don't have the quest they can't get in, if they've completed it they can't get in. A few horde ran by and observed, one tried to tag my mobs and have me kill them, at which time I stopped DPS and let all his tagged mobs kick the crap out of him, and he left. Some others tried to farm but realized I was tagging everything so they gave up. Had 2-3 alliance show up and get death gripped and howling blasted due to my macro and random target spamming. Most of them ran for their lives.

One 88 paladin played rambo and I heard gladiosa announce avenging wrath and a ton of cooldowns, he runs into my swarm of elementals, I couldn't even see or target him but i got gibbed by the aoe. Was pretty funny :)

It is odd they do seem to start spawning faster. When I get there at first, there's only 6-10 elementals across the entire area. As I pull they seem to spawn faster and faster until I'm waiting for D&D cooldown to finish so I can pull the ones behind me. Once I got the pulls going I never had less than 6-10 elementals on me no matter how fast I was killing them.

What is the XP per mob?
I have been doing the brewery with the first 5 guys, rinse and repeat, guaranteed 150k in 2 mins, how does this compare? I am not too concerned on the loot as the brewery is VERY mindless and allows me to watch TV lol

heyaz
11-13-2012, 02:21 PM
What is the XP per mob?
I have been doing the brewery with the first 5 guys, rinse and repeat, guaranteed 150k in 2 mins, how does this compare? I am not too concerned on the loot as the brewery is VERY mindless and allows me to watch TV lol

I can't remember the amounts at lower levels but at 89 they were around 2600 each with guild banner. Unlike brewery it is nonstop, no resetting, no elites to run through at the beginning, and not limited to 40 mobs. I did monkey grinding on my shaman and hated it, I didn't find it all that mindless, in fact it got really irritating and the zero loot thing sucked.

This is so mindless you stand in one place and hit one key forever. The loot is excellent and it's 3-5 hours per level at full speed. Probably close to monkey grinding, without the hassle, and with more loot. The amount of motes you get is what makes it worth it.

crowdx
11-13-2012, 02:23 PM
I can't remember the amounts at lower levels but at 89 they were around 2600 each with guild banner. Unlike brewery it is nonstop, no resetting, no elites to run through at the beginning, and not limited to 40 mobs. I did monkey grinding on my shaman and hated it, I didn't find it all that mindless, in fact it got really irritating and the zero loot thing sucked.

This is so mindless you stand in one place and hit one key forever. The loot is excellent and it's 3-5 hours per level at full speed. Probably close to monkey grinding, without the hassle, and with more loot. The amount of motes you get is what makes it worth it.

Actually in Stormstout Brewery it is the first 5 elites I kill to get the 150k, I have a click bar which disbands the group and then invite which resets the dungeons and I am back in again. It is VERY midless lol

heyaz
11-13-2012, 02:24 PM
Doing the math here, I think this area is faster.

It's about 23 million experience from 89-90. It took just under five hours for that level. If my math is correct that is 76k experience per minute with loot, so 230k per three minutes just standing in one place.

heyaz
11-13-2012, 02:26 PM
Actually in Stormstout Brewery it is the first 5 elites I kill to get the 150k, I have a click bar which disbands the group and then invite which resets the dungeons and I am back in again. It is VERY midless lol

I had all of that too. You still have to run through the instance, grab the monkeys, aoe down, macro out, macro back in, repeat. It's easy but not totally mindless due to the movement and resetting.

I'm talking standing in one place hitting one button forever and getting loot for 230k experience per 3 minutes at 89.

Edit:
Just re-read your post - so you don't grab the 40 non-elite monkeys after that? It's a bit more experience but that one is not mindless and you have to pay attention. Whatever your leveling method, it's fine, but for me I prefer more xp without resetting and actually geting loot.

crowdx
11-13-2012, 02:28 PM
Doing the math here, I think this area is faster.

It's about 23 million experience from 89-90. It took just under five hours for that level. If my math is correct that is 76k experience per minute with loot, so 230k per three minutes just standing in one place.

I must try it with my level 88 team, only issue is that I have to do the quest chains, I HATE those vehicle quests, total time sink :(

I have 3 other level 85 teams I would love to get to 90 so I may try this route, hopefully they do not nerf it :(

Lyonheart
11-13-2012, 03:12 PM
Well I'm glad i left jade forest early now with my main team! None of the spots i grind for motes sounds as good as this place.

cmeche
11-13-2012, 04:43 PM
At lvl 87 with my 5 man team, rested.....I was almost doing 7 million(I think 5130xp per kill) an hour per toon...... And this is just staying at the lower level killing mobs.
Plus, IWT for melle will randomly grab a dead corpse and loot everything....dont even have to stop to loot.
Like heyaz said, mote drops are crazy...i dont even worry about who picks them up.....i just sell them for the lotus anyway.
I also tried the monkeys and didnt enjoy it.

I seem to remember getting the quest after reaching Dawns Blossom.

I often wonder how much XP a single player could pull from mob tagging and letting a seperate group kill.

cmeche
11-13-2012, 04:48 PM
Found the start of the quest line. (http://www.wowhead.com/quest=29931)

Ashley
11-18-2012, 01:10 AM
Noticed this the first time around.

Now I done the quest and cant get back there :(

Oh well, awesome grind spot for my 10 mage team when they hit 85 (currently stuck at 80)

Mokoi
11-19-2012, 04:35 AM
I did this on my 10 box of hunters and resto druids. with 10 toons, I was getting 4-5million exp PER toon.. it was far better than ANY questing, grouping, etc experience available. I just stayed there, and played AV when I was bored (i was bored a lot, I had 4k Honor at level 87)

Lyonheart
11-19-2012, 01:24 PM
I finally got to this area with my main team.. Its not as good as loot as the sprites when this http://www.wowhead.com/quest=30191 daily is up. Those same sprites are up when you have to put out the fires but not as many as when you have to collect the barrels for the quest i listed. However.. sometimes that quest is not up for days, so the jade serpent area is a damn good alternative! Also, i can see how this will be wonderful for grinding levels with the added bonus of loot. My main team is 90 so its less thrilling for them. I'm doing the starting JF quests with my dk,druid,mages now..so will be there soon 8)

crowdx
11-22-2012, 01:22 PM
I finally got to this area with my main team.. Its not as good as loot as the sprites when this http://www.wowhead.com/quest=30191 daily is up. Those same sprites are up when you have to put out the fires but not as many as when you have to collect the barrels for the quest i listed. However.. sometimes that quest is not up for days, so the jade serpent area is a damn good alternative! Also, i can see how this will be wonderful for grinding levels with the added bonus of loot. My main team is 90 so its less thrilling for them. I'm doing the starting JF quests with my dk,druid,mages now..so will be there soon 8)

Can you confirm that ALL of the Jade Forest quests have to be completed before opening up this area? Or is there a point in the other quest lines which opens this too without doing all the starter quests. My current team is 88 and I really do not want to have to spend days doing low level quests to get here :(

Lyonheart
11-22-2012, 06:04 PM
Can you confirm that ALL of the Jade Forest quests have to be completed before opening up this area? Or is there a point in the other quest lines which opens this too without doing all the starter quests. My current team is 88 and I really do not want to have to spend days doing low level quests to get here :(

I just did them again and you have to do everything. Once you get sent to Dawns Blossom you will do the first round of quests there, IGNORE the quests called "An Air of Worry" and "Find the Boy". You will get a quest that sends you to Emperor's Omen. The few quests there lead to the start of the quests (http://www.wowhead.com/quest=29931) that get you in Jade Serpent quest area.

crowdx
11-23-2012, 12:19 AM
I just did them again and you have to do everything. Once you get sent to Dawns Blossom you will do the first round of quests there, IGNORE the quests called "An Air of Worry" and "Find the Boy". You will get a quest that sends you to Emperor's Omen. The few quests there lead to the start of the quests (http://www.wowhead.com/quest=29931) that get you in Jade Serpent quest area.


So I got to the Jade Temple, is everyone referring to the Water Fiends? Or is there other mobs that people are killing? In the room "Fountain of Everseeing"

Lyonheart
11-23-2012, 10:25 AM
So I got to the Jade Temple, is everyone referring to the Water Fiends? Or is there other mobs that people are killing? In the room "Fountain of Everseeing"

yes, thats the room. Bunch of water elementals, a lower section and upper section where the quest NPC is. This is the room of the first boss in the dungon version.

Mokoi
11-27-2012, 01:22 AM
It doesn't seem like a LOT of mobs at first, but just start killing them. they will start to spawn super fast. It's amazing.

crowdx
11-27-2012, 10:25 AM
It doesn't seem like a LOT of mobs at first, but just start killing them. they will start to spawn super fast. It's amazing.
I think this may be server dependent, the spawn rate did increase a little but with my level 88 team at the time, they did end up with nothing to kill a lot of the time.

cmeche
11-27-2012, 12:12 PM
I think this may be server dependent, the spawn rate did increase a little but with my level 88 team at the time, they did end up with nothing to kill a lot of the time.

I have spent alot of time(maybe 15-20 hrs) grinding here with 3 teams. At any lvl, if you have a point where there is nothing to kill.......then your xp has got to be through the roof.

crowdx
11-27-2012, 12:15 PM
I have spent alot of time(maybe 15-20 hrs) grinding here with 3 teams. At any lvl, if you have a point where there is nothing to kill.......then your xp has got to be through the roof.
Do you intend to grind all teams to 90 or are you already 90?

cmeche
11-27-2012, 01:57 PM
Currently have 2 teams at 90. One team around 87. And since I have raf active, about 4 other teams at 80 and 2 others around 40.
Easiest thing for me is let rested accumliate once I get a team to this grind quest. While nonrested xp here is still faster than questing, it is very boring and would rather get another team up and let rested accumliate.
But I do plan on hitting this area with every team.

Owltoid
12-04-2012, 08:08 PM
just to make sure (since I'm there), it's the little water elementals that are not aggressive? non-elites that give you about 2500 exp each (non-rested)?

Mokoi
12-04-2012, 08:26 PM
yes, those ones.

luxlunae
12-06-2012, 12:59 AM
Just saying here how happy I am to have been shown this!

Regarding the SI:7 vehicle quests, I have a few notes that might help you get through the zone quicker.

1: Rell. Somewhat multiboxable. Run each box down to amber separately and then turn on full repeat and use tab to target, 1, 2, 3 as normal. Things should die at approximately the same time across all boxes

2: Sully: Multiboxable No, although with the RP at the beginning you might want to start the next person while you are still finishing up the box before. I'll repeat here my wowhead comment: Each time you exit vehicle and return using the quest giver you will return to the base camp. You will not lose progress on the objectives. Therefore it is fastest to head west as soon as you can move, get the close shrine and the far west one, wait until they register and then leave, bounce back in and head north, then leave and you'll be back just in time to have amber kill the hozen.Sorry about this font.

3. Lu. Multiboxable, No, although I did mine at the same time, once again lots of RP time so you save some seconds by doing two or three at once.

4. Amber: No tips for this one, except I did try to start two boxes at the same time because the ramp up time at the start is considerable.

luxlunae
12-06-2012, 03:45 PM
Another note, something is messed up so that elder whatshername won't port one of my priests in (although she was in yesterday). I was able to summon her in with my warlock though, so this is a thought for anyone that has a higher level toon locked out that needs the spirits.

heyaz
12-06-2012, 04:25 PM
Did you complete the quests on that priest? My shaman/druid were my first group before I knew about that area and after completing the quests that NPC will no longer port you in. My DK's never turned in the final quest and can still port in. That's a good trick thought that you can be summoned back in... I wish we still had HGWT :/

crowdx
12-06-2012, 05:03 PM
Something I just realized here with my current group, they were able to summon a character into the Temple who had not done the quest line using a warlock to summon.
EDIT: I just went to look around and there are no mobs, I presume due to being in a different phase due to not completing the questline :(

Owltoid
12-06-2012, 07:24 PM
I think it was hotfixed. I was getting about 2.5k per mob (5k rested) earlier today. Just went back and it's giving me 235 per elemental. Back to questing!

crowdx
12-06-2012, 07:34 PM
I think it was hotfixed. I was getting about 2.5k per mob (5k rested) earlier today. Just went back and it's giving me 235 per elemental. Back to questing!

Yup, just checked, solo was giving less than 2k

Lyonheart
12-06-2012, 07:52 PM
Yup, just checked, solo was giving less than 2k

Did the drops get nerfed?

Owltoid
12-06-2012, 08:12 PM
Don't know, once i saw I was getting 235 xp I was outta there

crowdx
12-06-2012, 09:26 PM
Did the drops get nerfed?

With the lower xp there is a better spot over at Town long Steppes

luxlunae
12-06-2012, 10:09 PM
I farmed this until 6pm tonight and was still getting 2.8k with my guild standard.

Edit: 11pm 500xp per mob with rested. So very very sad.

Mokoi
12-06-2012, 11:12 PM
seems the elementals were nerfed last night.

now they are worth 2k exp solo at level 88.

Nitro
12-07-2012, 03:28 AM
Was boosting toons here today and saw the xp suddenly drop off, xp was nerfed.

Loot is still good though.

Rhand
12-08-2012, 04:40 AM
With the lower xp there is a better spot over at Town long Steppes
Where in Townlong?

heyaz
12-09-2012, 05:18 PM
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