Multiboxing MSV Mogu shan vaults 10 man

[dazed1992]

So im thinking of starting to multibox and 10 man multibox raids.
I was wondering if any 10boxers have tried this and what are your thought about it .

Thanks

And yes i know this might be very difficult but its gotta be a fun challenge.

[zenga]

The first boss will already pose quite a challenge. You need to split up 3 dogs and taunt one back and forth depending of the state of his energy. Meanwhile your raid needs to move out of puddles and frost bombs. There is also an ability that links up 2 players, but if you stand on top of eachother it wont do much damage. So if you manage to move out your team of goo all the time, and have your tanks split up, I can definitely see this fight being 10 boxed, with the proper keymaps.

The 2nd boss is a typical gather up, spread out boss, where you need to run out with the toon that gets a debuff (kinda like valiona and therallion in T11.

The 3rd boss requires you to send toons to a spirit realm (where you gonna have to top off the players in order to get out again and kill a bunch of adds), by clicking something. However there is a debuff applied to random players, which prevents them to go into the realm. And that is gonna make it really hard for a boxer as you gonna have to adapt on the fly which toons you want to move out and send in.

The 4rd boss is a council fight. I'm not even gonna begin to describe it as all sorts of shit is happening depending on the order the bosses appear. It's a bit of a clusterfuck though.

The 5th boss is imo impossible to kill with the current mechanisms as a boxer. Basically you need to spread out all around the room and little adds spawn coming from the boss to a certain point where they vanish. For each round of adds you manage to kill you get a damage increase. |Apart from that you constantly need to move to reset a stacking debuff. If you'd manage to deal with all this crap, you basically end up in a phase where 2 groups of players run around the room and need to take down frost walls. You'd need incredible dps to overcome the standard mechanics and not hit enrage.

The last boss is a fight where adds spawn all the time, some can be tanked others can't be. One add spawns and you need to attack it from the back as it has a shield. I think at some point this will be boxable though.

[Lyonheart]

I have 10 accounts, only because i was moving toons around and doing RaF again, I never cared to 10 Box bosses, if i could, great!, but I would be willing to do it if there is good trash farming. Like more motes drop in raid trash..maybe some epics ect.. Any of that Zenga? If not, ill most likly shut 5 down when im done with RaF.

[zenga]

, but I would be willing to do it if there is good trash farming. Like more motes drop in raid trash..maybe some epics ect.. Any of that Zenga? If not, ill most likly shut 5 down when im done with RaF.

Well I remember we got a couple of BOE 489 recipes off the trash, and I believe there are a couple of BOP trinkets that drop off trash (don't know which trash though i.e. where exactly in the instance that was). I'm specialized in ninja afking during trash. The trash in front of the first boss is like 3 packs of 10 mobs and 2 bigger dudes. There is a certain way to pull it because else you turn to stone and they reset. I have no idea how it exactly works though. I hear our raidleader always call out to single target it, but hey I'm an ele shaman so I have to chain light the living crap out of it.

The BOE recipes are a bit worthless though, everyone gets then but you need to DE like 10 raidweapons to acquire the mats. By the time that happens most people will be far beyond that itemlevel I guess.

I'm not aware of any increased drop rate for harmonies though. There are other good places to farm these.

[dazed1992]

Yea ive been 6/6 for quite a while now.And in 10 man elegon isnt really hard at all compared 2 25 man but.Ud need 2 tanks etc.And hell all of it does seem really hard.And id hate to have 10 accounts to just be able to do heroic instances lol.The problem is im in a full time raiding guild and its either one thing or the other and im not sure what to do sincerely.

Because im sure if i dedicate myself full time i can get some boses down.But if i cant for some reason.Then i just wasted a hell of aloot of time .So i dont quite know what i should do.
For now i just upgraded my computer and its a well see thing.

[zenga]

Yea ive been 6/6 for quite a while now.And in 10 man elegon isnt really hard at all compared 2 25 man but.Ud need 2 tanks etc.And hell all of it does seem really hard.And id hate to have 10 accounts to just be able to do heroic instances lol.The problem is im in a full time raiding guild and its either one thing or the other and im not sure what to do sincerely.

Because im sure if i dedicate myself full time i can get some boses down.But if i cant for some reason.Then i just wasted a hell of aloot of time .So i dont quite know what i should do.
For now i just upgraded my computer and its a well see thing.
The normal modes are not hard as long as you execute the mechanics properly, contrary to the heroic modes where you have to meet a few tight dps enrage timers with current gear. But like I described in my previous post, I don't think a boxer is able to overcome the mechanics unless you outgear it big time.

[Lyonheart]

The normal modes are not hard as long as you execute the mechanics properly, contrary to the heroic modes where you have to meet a few tight dps enrage timers with current gear. But like I described in my previous post, I don't think a boxer is able to overcome the mechanics unless you outgear it big time.

How do you think we will do in LFRs? ( meaning will we be a detriment to the raid boxing? )

[olibri1]

I 5-box the first 3 MV every week and it is trivial. The last 3 I really struggle with so I usually 2-box those...however a big reason that I struggle with the last 3 is not because they are too hard for me, but because they are too hard for the general population and so I feel like my contribution and proper movement are extremely important. I think that once healers get geared and tanks know what they are doing the last 3 will be easy as well.

[Multibocks]

I assume you mean that you 5 box the LFR?

[zenga]

How do you think we will do in LFRs? ( meaning will we be a detriment to the raid boxing? )

Basically what olibri1 said. Many of the MV normal mechanics are gone cq. made trivial in LFR. There is no real mechanical reason why one shouldn't be able to box the last 3 in MV LFR.

[olibri1]

Basically what olibri1 said. Many of the MV normal mechanics are gone cq. made trivial in LFR. There is no real mechanical reason why one shouldn't be able to box the last 3 in MV LFR.
Yes. I actually 2-3 box the last 3 of MV, but given how likely wipes were when it was released I felt the need to do better than I could do with 5 on a per-toon basis. I may try to 5-box the last 3 next week.

Unfortunately due to the ilvl requirement for HoF LFR, I can only 2-box that, but aside from some positioning issues with Garalon it isn't hard.

[Jooseppi]

We started to raid again with my friend and we just downed the first boss. We didnt fraps the kill but here is the picture.
http://i.imgur.com/0xf5Sux.jpg (http://imgur.com/0xf5Sux)

Soonish we will attempt the second boss.

[MiRai]

Nice.

[Lyonheart]

Gratz! even if one boss is farmable.. ( epic shards? ) that is cool as hell! good job!

[Jooseppi]

After few wipes we were able to kill the second boss. There were stupid little mistakes along the road but we did it!
Here is the picture.
http://i.imgur.com/LimGaS6.jpg (http://imgur.com/LimGaS6)

[JohnGabriel]

Good work!

Do you think Moju'shan vaults is the easiest to box? Have you tried others?

[dfwfire]

First of all congrats! Very nice teamwork, its good to see boxers taking down raids again. Second, we can see the composition of your team but do you mind sharing the other 5 man composition? Thanks.

[Jooseppi]

The other team was warrior tank, priest, shaman x2 and paladin. We havent tried other raids and atm we're taking a little break from boxing.

[immunity]

So im thinking of starting to multibox and 10 man multibox raids.
I was wondering if any 10boxers have tried this and what are your thought about it .

Thanks

And yes i know this might be very difficult but its gotta be a fun challenge.

Many ppl are answering things that the OP is not asking. He is referring obviously to normal 10M.

But to the OP, yes I have tried MSV 10m, me and my wife Mbox it until the Elegon 2 days ago. Was the first time we tried it, and took us about 5 hours, so we were very happy with the success. I can guarantee you that is lot of fun and very challenging.

She was controlling 3 healers, and I was controlling both tanks and 5 dps.
Elegon normal IMO is a wall, too much stuff to do. Reset stacks, swap tanks, grab add, kill it outside, etc. We got to the phase 2.

If the mecanics were the same as in LFR we would have made it, but as normal it changes too much.
Yesterday, we also tried the first boss of Throne of Thunder, and also lots of things to avoid, had a problem also with the unit frames not showing debuffs that made it too complicated, and since we did not have so much time we will try another time.

We will just hope that FLEX will be more or less like LFR a bit more difficult maybe, but atm the difference between normal and lfr is huge.

Hope that answers your question.

Edit: Typo.

[immunity]

The other team was warrior tank, priest, shaman x2 and paladin. We havent tried other raids and atm we're taking a little break from boxing.

We made it up to Elegon and our team was:

Warrior: Tank
DK: Tank
2 Mage, 2 Lock, 1 hunter: DPS
Priest, Paladin, Monk: Healers

[Jooseppi]

We made it up to Elegon and our team was:

Warrior: Tank
DK: Tank
2 Mage, 2 Lock, 1 hunter: DPS
Priest, Paladin, Monk: Healers


Nice! How many players there were and what was the average ilvl?
We have thought about starting to box again.

[MiRai]

Nice! How many players there were and what was the average ilvl?
We have thought about starting to box again.
In another post they mention that there were two people, one controlling just the healers and the other controller the tanks/DPS.

[luxlunae]

Kind of necroing the thread here but glad you're having fun with the early mop raids. What kind of ilevel do your dps have that you're trying regular TOT?


I'd suggest running grid with grid raid debuff. If you have it up to date it generally has everything you need on your middle icon. Also handy for sniping heals with a shield in LFR because you can see who has a dot ticking on them even if their health doesn't visibly go down.

[immunity]

Kind of necroing the thread here but glad you're having fun with the early mop raids. What kind of ilevel do your dps have that you're trying regular TOT?


I'd suggest running grid with grid raid debuff. If you have it up to date it generally has everything you need on your middle icon. Also handy for sniping heals with a shield in LFR because you can see who has a dot ticking on them even if their health doesn't visibly go down.

Tanks around 500 the rest around 510-517. And yes I use Grid but the offtank had the wrong settings and did not see the debuffs. It is too bad that when grid copy profiles it does not copy the new bars :(

We are really looking forward to try flex raid, hope they extend it to the older raids in Pandaria.

[immunity]

In another post they mention that there were two people, one controlling just the healers and the other controller the tanks/DPS.

Exactly, around 515 ilvl. Tanks 500.

[Khatovar]

Threads merged to stop crossposting

[Jooseppi]

today we went back to msv and managed to kill Elegon. Next we will try the final boss.

[Jooseppi]

After 15 good tries Will of the Emperor died!