Farming spots for cloth/leather/motes?

[Lyonheart]

Anyone find a good grind spot for cloth and motes.. as well as a leather spot? the darn motes are too rare.. i have 8 so far from a day of questing.

[beeq]

I dinged my mages to 86 and then went to Krasarang Wilds. Grinded Weeping Horrors ( http://www.wowhead.com/npc=57649 ) for 3 hours and dinged to 87 because the mobs spawn instantly. I looted 210 motes in that time with some afking once in a while ;)

Looting is very fast when you have "Pass loot: Yes" on your slaves, so your main loots everything.

[Lyonheart]

I dinged my mages to 86 and then went to Krasarang Wilds. Grinded Weeping Horrors ( http://www.wowhead.com/npc=57649 ) for 3 hours and dinged to 87 because the mobs spawn instantly. I looted 210 motes in that time with some afking once in a while ;)

Looting is very fast when you have "Pass loot: Yes" on your slaves, so your main loots everything.

I think they nerfed this already, i was there for an hour and got 4 motes a few greens and less than a bub exp.. killing things non stop.

[beeq]

I think they nerfed this already, i was there for an hour and got 4 motes a few greens and less than a bub exp.. killing things non stop.

I assume you were there with mulltiple toons? I did pulls with 50+ mobs "at once" (was running back and forth, spamming 5x Nether Tempest on everything)
When any of the mobs die, they respawned, and I pulled them back to the pile with more Nether Tempests.

Mobs gave around 3600 exp each non-rested while group bonus was around 900exp per mob.

[Lyonheart]

I assume you were there with mulltiple toons? I did pulls with 50+ mobs "at once" (was running back and forth, spamming 5x Nether Tempest on everything)
When any of the mobs die, they respawned, and I pulled them back to the pile with more Nether Tempests.

Mobs gave around 3600 exp each non-rested while group bonus was around 900exp per mob.

hmm.. how you get 50 mobs?.. there must be a better spot.. there were a few "pit" type areas where they were spawning non stop. but like 4-7 in each small area.

[beeq]

hmm.. how you get 50 mobs?.. there must be a better spot.. there were a few "pit" type areas where they were spawning non stop. but like 4-7 in each small area.

I pulled the 4 to 7 mobs and when one of them died I chain pulled the respawning one so I was in the combat for a long time. Only stopped when one of the toon was on low health, ran away from the pit to food, then looted the 50+, rinse repeat ;)

[Lyonheart]

I pulled the 4 to 7 mobs and when one of them died I chain pulled the respawning one so I was in the combat for a long time. Only stopped when one of the toon was on low health, ran away from the pit to food, then looted the 50+, rinse repeat ;)

ahh ok.. i was doing that too.. just did not see my exp bar move and only got a few motes 8(

[jstanthr]

in valley of the four winds "stoneplow fields" killing Ik'thik Swiftclaws got several motes, and a ton of cloth, and that was jst while doing the quest, i spent about an hour and got 12 spirits of harmony, 15 or so stacks of cloth, around a dozen greens and one blue

[Mosg2]

The turtles at Pools of Purity in Valley of the Four Winds. Insta respawn and the mobs are close to each other. I run 10 toons and just positioned each of them so someone else was covering his back and made a special button in ISBoxer to target the turtles instead of assisting the lead.

Across 10 toons I made oh, about 300 motes in an hour.

[Shodokan]

The turtles at Pools of Purity in Valley of the Four Winds. Insta respawn and the mobs are close to each other. I run 10 toons and just positioned each of them so someone else was covering his back and made a special button in ISBoxer to target the turtles instead of assisting the lead.

Across 10 toons I made oh, about 300 motes in an hour.

The little ones? with like no hp?

[Lyonheart]

The turtles at Pools of Purity in Valley of the Four Winds. Insta respawn and the mobs are close to each other. I run 10 toons and just positioned each of them so someone else was covering his back and made a special button in ISBoxer to target the turtles instead of assisting the lead.

Across 10 toons I made oh, about 300 motes in an hour.

Well I must have shit luck...every time someone posts a good spot and says they got "X-hundred motes" i think.. " well if i get half that many, Ill be happy" Then i go and spend an hour and get next to nothing. I got ZERO motes at the turtles in an hour. And a handful at the stoneplow fields. I got some greens, cloth..but i could care less about those.. i want the motes lol!

[Mosg2]

Well, there *is* a difference between running 5 and running 10. Plus, my guys are all melee so they kill stupidly fast with no downtime.

Edit: I may make a video and post it. No promises--I leave for vacation tomorrow and I'll be gone a week.

[Lyonheart]

Well, there *is* a difference between running 5 and running 10. Plus, my guys are all melee so they kill stupidly fast with no downtime.

Edit: I may make a video and post it. No promises--I leave for vacation tomorrow and I'll be gone a week.

I dont think its possible to kill any faster than i was killing them.. I had my guys spread out and i killed them so fast there were moments of no turtles to hit. You are talking about the little turtles up top right? And i mean.. zero motes in an hour compared to your 300? no way! Even if i were killing them some what slower than you ( i doubt it ) I should have gotten something close to that.. not "zero"! So I must be in the wrong spot, or it got hotfixed this morning.

[Mosg2]

No, they're down to the east a bit. There's a quest to gather like 30 strips of turtle meat for the area.

[Shodokan]

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=56256

those?

[Lyonheart]

No, they're down to the east a bit. There's a quest to gather like 30 strips of turtle meat for the area.

I thought of that.. but had to go back to work ( was on lunch break ) Ill give that a shot.

[Mosg2]

That's them.

[beeq]

Windwool Cloth is like 50s each on my server, and there's like 6k auctions of it. We got lots of farmers around, or did Blizz f*** up the droprate? ;)

Btw, have you noticed that if you're on a quest and kill quest mobs, they spawn much faster than without the quest? Or if there are people around with the quest and the mobs are under heavy farming, so they have to spawn instantly to make questers happy? Later if you are there alone without the quest, the mobs won't spawn instantly because "they don't have to"

[Shodokan]

Windwool Cloth is like 50s each on my server, and there's like 6k auctions of it. We got lots of farmers around, or did Blizz f*** up the droprate? ;)

Btw, have you noticed that if you're on a quest and kill quest mobs, they spawn much faster than without the quest? Or if there are people around with the quest and the mobs are under heavy farming, so they have to spawn instantly to make questers happy? Later if you are there alone without the quest, the mobs won't spawn instantly because "they don't have to"

If ANYONE is on the quest in the area they respawn faster.

Also @ mosg's spot. 40 motes in 20 mins (small sample size) and got me my 8% rested exp from the exp.

[roddo]

I was just there for an hour, solo on my dk, probably killed a few hundred turtles, and got 5 motes. was plenty of turtles due to questers, was no downtime and I typically was pulling 5-6 at a time.
get the quest, and don't turn it in and farm with a team and its probably alot more turtles.

[TheShox]

I was farming the turtles for 3 hours last night. ALL my accounts with the DKs on them (Farming with Paladin and 4 DKs) just now got banned. TOTAL BULLSHIT. I just got 4 password resets then 5 minutes later.. banned. My Paladin account didn't get banned. He was just healing and not doing any of the kills.

I have no such hack programs installed. Just ISBoxer. I did nothing wrong. I'm currently on hold with them, but I have no idea how to appeal or get this reversed. I want it revered tonight since I came home so I can level up my team.

Reason for Closure: Terms of Use Violation -- Exploitative Activity: Unauthorized Cheat Programs ("Hacks")

Either they believe killing the spawns over and over is considered an exploit or someone reported me and they didn't research it properly.

[Lyonheart]

I was farming the turtles for 3 hours last night. ALL my accounts with the DKs on them (Farming with Paladin and 4 DKs) just now got banned. TOTAL BULLSHIT. I just got 4 password resets then 5 minutes later.. banned. My Paladin account didn't get banned. He was just healing and not doing any of the kills.

I have no such hack programs installed. Just ISBoxer. I did nothing wrong. I'm currently on hold with them, but I have no idea how to appeal or get this reversed. I want it revered tonight since I came home so I can level up my team.

Reason for Closure: Terms of Use Violation -- Exploitative Activity: Unauthorized Cheat Programs ("Hacks")

Either they believe killing the spawns over and over is considered an exploit or someone reported me and they didn't research it properly.


Thats BS bro. so sorry to hear that. I mean they made these mote so rare, and you need them for a lot of stuff! They don't expect us to farm like this?

[TheShox]

Update to my above post. Spoke to account support who is escalating to the GMs. They said that there is some checks behind the scenes for activity that resembles powerleveling services. Because of the quickness of the kills for a long period of time, it resembled a bot. The guy I spoke to actually had multiboxed before with 5 accounts with ISBoxer. He understood the reason for farming kills versus collection quests. He looked at the logs and confirmed that all 5 accounts were logged in at the same time and I even gave him my current IP and he said it matched what was in the logs and it is from comcast. So I said that proves it wasn't some chinese farmer. He said he will get more info about the speed kills to see if we should back off on it due to these backened checks. In the meantime, he said he will send my account with not on it up the chain and also asked me to submit an appeal through the web ticket system. I better get these unbanned because I didn't do anything wrong.


And I just realized why this may have occurred. Even the account rep called this a new check. Fs and Athene world firsts. I bet they thought my Paladin was tagging outside of the group, which it was not. Everyone was in the same group getting the same XP and they should have reviewed the logs to see that.

[TheShox]

Thats BS bro. so sorry to hear that. I mean they made these mote so rare, and you need them for a lot of stuff! They don't expect us to farm like this?

Well I was doing it for leveling purposes. The motes were nice, but wanted to get to 88 to bypass the worst collection zones. And also to possibly do the Prince rep farming that was mentioned.

[beeq]

I dinged my mages to 86 and then went to Krasarang Wilds. Grinded Weeping Horrors ( http://www.wowhead.com/npc=57649 ) for 3 hours and dinged to 87 because the mobs spawn instantly. I looted 210 motes in that time with some afking once in a while ;)

Looting is very fast when you have "Pass loot: Yes" on your slaves, so your main loots everything.

I got bored with questing and went back to Weeping Horrors. Ran around the pit with stopwatch, kept spamming 5x Nether Tempest with everything and then stopped after 4 minutes. Looted the pile and got 60 grey items (amount of mobs died, each drop one) and five motes, which seems to be a good average on droprate.

That's around 82500 exp for each toon (while they are rested) every minute, sums up to 75 motes and 5 million rested exp per hour (+food breaks). I finished with 100 motes (grinded less than 90 minutes) and bought 30x Golden Lotus from the vendor for 10 Spirits of Harmony. Sold the flowers for 10k gold on AH (~300g+ each)

It's a massacre though. Every mob lives only 4 seconds after tagging, while each of them stands with 184k hp.

[crowdx]

I got bored with questing and went back to Weeping Horrors. Ran around the pit with stopwatch, kept spamming 5x Nether Tempest with everything and then stopped after 4 minutes. Looted the pile and got 60 grey items (amount of mobs died, each drop one) and five motes, which seems to be a good average on droprate.

That's around 82500 exp for each toon (while they are rested) every minute, sums up to 75 motes and 5 million rested exp per hour (+food breaks). I finished with 100 motes (grinded less than 90 minutes) and bought 30x Golden Lotus from the vendor for 10 Spirits of Harmony. Sold the flowers for 10k gold on AH (~300g+ each)

It's a massacre though. Every mob lives only 4 seconds after tagging, while each of them stands with 184k hp.

Where is the vendor that you trade the motes for Lotus?

[beeq]

Where is the vendor that you trade the motes for Lotus?

You can find both Krystel and Danky standing at Shrines in the Vale of Eternal Blossoms.
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=66685
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=66678

[Mosg2]

@Theshox:

All 10 of mine just got banned too for the same thing. Gonna call Blizz here when they open up and raise hell.

[Shodokan]

Hopefully i didn't get the ban hammer... then again i was only there for about 10% exp and around an hour total.

edit: no e-mails and accounts still say active on account status.

[Khatovar]

Well, maybe this hints that they're finally going to get around to a massive banwave on all those bots out there. I swear there's twice as many bots on my server as there are horde. But I suppose that's not saying much, lol.

[TheShox]

The HB bots are hard to detect since they are just gathering or using quest profiles. What were were doing was killing mobs almost every second for a long period of time. I was able to get my account bans overturned. Mosg2, I think everything will be fine as well, it just sucks having it happen and to wait. I know this is sort of hijacking the thread, but this happened because we were attempting stuff mentioned in this thread. Here is my communication with Blizzard. Seems they are using some type of automatic ban if the system detects suspicious activity. They recommended not doing what I was doing before or I'll have to go through the same process of review again. What irks me is, this isn't suspicious activity at all. Because we box, we can drop things so fast, so it appears like a damage hack. They are the one spawning the mobs, not some hack tool on our end.

Hello xxxxx,

My name is xxxxx and I’ll be assisting you with your game accounts.

We had escalated this up further for you and were able to get the account actions overturned for you.

I would be happy to help you out further if you have any further issues with this about this or any other issue, simply reply to this ticket. Or, if you prefer, you can give us a call at any of the following numbers:
http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/contact

Sincerely,
xxxxx

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Thank you so much xxxx!! That was quick and I appreciate the help. I do have one question and that is, can I continue doing what I was doing? Just killing the mobs over and over in the MoP areas? If so, will the system know not to flag me or will future GMs know not to place a ban on the accounts again?

Thanks,
xxxx


GM Below:

Greetings,

I received your followup ticket and hope you're having a nice day today.

I'm glad the previous rep was able to assist with the account actions you reported. =) As for going forward, I'd recommend trying something different since our systems could end up doing the same thing if they detect the same activity, as this would need to be thoroughly investigated by another department before any changes could be made, if any. So please be very care about doing anything that might be considered suspicious in the future.

If you have any other questions or issues feel free to contact us again and we'll get in touch with you as soon as possible.

Best wishes,
xxxxx

[Lyonheart]

So a group going anywhere, to kill mobs in mass for the sole purpose of farming these damn motes, that we need, will get us banned. ( even if it gets overturned, we pay too much for that kind of hassle ) BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[daviddoran]

What a BS answer! So basically if you kill x amount of mobs in x amount of time, you get autobanned.... wow.

[JohnGabriel]

Seems like a reasonable solution to their problem, it would only effect a small number of legitimate users such as us, but effect a very large number of farming/leveling bots.

[flux1]

Well that is concerning. I have been leveling a team of 4 the past half week or so. I farmed the Wildhammer Dwarfs in The Hinterlands two nights ago for about 90 min to get the distress beacon for the mechanical chicken quests, but nothing happened afaik. I didn't get MoP yet for those accounts as I wanted to get several groups to 80 first and figured by the time I was ready to go further there would be a holiday sale on Cata/MoP. I'll keep an eye out how this goes in the long term, as lots of collection quests are not something I'm looking forward to in the future. My plan was to grind most of the way from 85+. Especially when you can buy decent gear for gold to get you going instead of having to quest for it.

[TheShox]

Flux1, There isn't an issue with farming. It has to do with the way some MoP areas have infinite respawns of mobs. After all or most are dead, the system immediately spawns more. With so many kills over a short time, it is tripping something in blizzard's poorly implemented autoban system. If it would just check to see if all toons are in the same group with the same IP getting the same XP, then it shouldn't flag the accounts. The rep on the phone did say that changes would be required to compensate for what boxers are doing with these spawns, but never said that it would actually occur.

[Lyonheart]

Seems like a reasonable solution to their problem, it would only effect a small number of legitimate users such as us, but effect a very large number of farming/leveling bots.


i appreciate what they are doing, but you would think there would be a system in place thats a tad smarter,TheShox said, check your IP etc.. so they don't inconvenience someone by auto-banning them in a case like above.

BUt Back OT.. Im sure some of you knew that when you get revierde you can get http://www.wowhead.com/item=89233.. they give you one mote.. so at exalted you can get 16 per day. per toon.. combine that with killing mobs for them,, and thats a good start. i mean 16 guaranteed motes a day, or 2 spirits every two days, not bad!

[flux1]

The Dwarfs I was farming seemed to be on a similar timer as by the time the last one was dead a few more had respawned. I've read on other forums that lots of packs of mobs have been set to have the instant respawns in old world content like in pandaria. I'd hope they see false positives are impacting legit customers and put in a fix for it like you mentioned. However since this apparently something new people don't know much about, it does concern me knowing there is an invisible limit that can trigger on you.

[Mosg2]

Well, it took three phone calls and a bunch of back and forth but they overturned the bans on my accounts. I'm still not sure what to do going into the future--My guess is to wait until I hit 90 and am not getting experience from these mobs before going back and/or finding another spot.

Maybe a post on the main forums is in order to get a definitive answer on this topic?

[Lyonheart]

I found an ok spot. in dread wastes..south island called Zan'vess. You get a buff from one of the bug NPCs " Kil'Ruk The Wind-Reaver". Every 60 seconds, when you have at least two mobs on you.. Angels of Death will fly down and do some mad dps to whatever your fighting. If all your guys have this.. its nutz. BTW you can have one enhancement and one augment from these NPCs.. 8)

Anyway, i was questing on the island and was pulling a ton of mobs..i don't think i was getting the "hundreds" of motes some of you were, but it was good steady coin, cloth, motes, greens and these quest shards you can turn in for rep with the bugs. ( When a quest shard drops.. its drops for all in group 8)

The buffs last as long as you are in the zone. There might be a better spot than where I was at, you can do this anywhere in the zone. ( the buffs called Angel of Death btw )

[hannibal]

I leveled 88 and 89 killing the water elementals inside the jade temple. Not the dungeon, but the instanced version you enter while questing. I believe you need to be on this quest chain to enter http://www.wowhead.com/quest=29931
I was getting 5.3m xp per hour when going full speed with guild banner down using a 4 man group. Mote drop is good and not a lot of competition since only other ppl on the quest can enter the area.

[Benjii]

I colect mount and there's one in Vale of Eternal Blossom, which requieres 10 Skyshards, which only drop in this zone. I want to lvl for those shards with my 5-men lvl 86 team but can't find a good spot, all mobs seem to be phased. Someone knows a good spot?

[cmeche]

I leveled 88 and 89 killing the water elementals inside the jade temple. Not the dungeon, but the instanced version you enter while questing. I believe you need to be on this quest chain to enter http://www.wowhead.com/quest=29931
I was getting 5.3m xp per hour when going full speed with guild banner down using a 4 man group. Mote drop is good and not a lot of competition since only other ppl on the quest can enter the area.

Grinded here with 5 shaman today for an hour with about 5-7 minutes of messing around with pvp(which I engaged) and easily hit 5.5 million withou having to move a single toon. Also got endless grey drops with about 16 motes.
If you have a team that has not done this quest yet, get here and start grinding asap. It is alot better/easier than weapi g horrors.

Hannibal, a big thanks for posting this!

[heyaz]

That's great xp out of an instance. I definitely missed that on my shaman - finished the quest line. I'm kinda glad I did the questing route on my first team though, just to get familiar with the zones and start off with 30-50k extra gold at 90, at 440ish ilvl, which I guess I"ll just be replacing but oh well. My second team will definitely take advantage of that one :)

Hope this one sticks around, every awesome grind spot (starting with AV on day one) has been nerfed sooo fast. By the time I got my xpacs (Saturday) the only one I knew of was stormstout brewery but it's not as mindless as a good uninstanced grind, they drop zero loot and you can screw up the pull pretty easily and wipe.

[Shodokan]

That's great xp out of an instance. I definitely missed that on my shaman - finished the quest line. I'm kinda glad I did the questing route on my first team though, just to get familiar with the zones and start off with 30-50k extra gold at 90, at 440ish ilvl, which I guess I"ll just be replacing but oh well. My second team will definitely take advantage of that one :)

Hope this one sticks around, every awesome grind spot (starting with AV on day one) has been nerfed sooo fast. By the time I got my xpacs (Saturday) the only one I knew of was stormstout brewery but it's not as mindless as a good uninstanced grind, they drop zero loot and you can screw up the pull pretty easily and wipe.

Depending on your comp.... yes it is. I can do it in 2 mins on my dk team and its about 200k exp. So 1 mill per 10 mins, or 200 mins per level or so.

There are a few other non-instanced spots to grind for good exp and good loot (depending on if you are a skinner or not) which might not set records for leveling speed (maybe around same as questing) but you will get quite a bit more gold.... or a few that are very few loot and just good respawns + exp.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Flux1, There isn't an issue with farming. It has to do with the way some MoP areas have infinite respawns of mobs. After all or most are dead, the system immediately spawns more. With so many kills over a short time, it is tripping something in blizzard's poorly implemented autoban system.Agreed. Probably what they put in to ban the guys that were using the mass kill hack in the cap cities the other day. (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/48132-WoW-10-7-2012-hax-%28reposting-screenies-from-quot-unsponsored-event-quot-lol%29)

[remanz]

Did blizzard say they won't ban level 90s doing mass/fast killings ?

[cmeche]

Went back again today after hitting 88. With rested, I am getting almost 7.5 million an hour per toon. This is entirely by spamming chain lightning and "tab" at the same time. Dont have to move at all, just the occasional thunderstorm if mana is getting low and Ancestral Guidance on one toon at a time topps everyone off.

Chain Lightning just shines here.

To Remanz: I have only grinded here on 3 seperate times with about 1.5 hours max each time.......fingers start too hurt.

[Shodokan]

Need a new place for SoH... seems the turtles have been hotfixed to have horrid drop rates not to mention its not easy to farm with a non-dot class.

Sprites in kun-lai have also been fixed.

[Lyonheart]

I had a good spot for MoHs...leather..ore and herbs with a golden lotus spawn every 15-20 mins.. i was there for 3 hours tonight and not one golden lotus. I think they are nerfing any areas that have high spawn rates of anything rare. On a good note, my main 5 are revered with tillers and have 12 plots to farm http://www.wowhead.com/item=89233. So its one SoH per day atm each toon.

[valkry]

I had a good spot for MoHs...leather..ore and herbs with a golden lotus spawn every 15-20 mins.. i was there for 3 hours tonight and not one golden lotus. I think they are nerfing any areas that have high spawn rates of anything rare. On a good note, my main 5 are revered with tillers and have 12 plots to farm http://www.wowhead.com/item=89233. So its one SoH per day atm each toon.

Tillers revered, Motes of harmony crops, trade for golden lotus... cash up!! OR, the vegetables used for the BiS stat foods sell for a fair amount on the AH, they are a decent money maker. Juicycrunch carrots and mogu pumpkins go for 10g EACH.

Gawd it's good having many farms lol :P

[Lyonheart]

Tillers revered, Motes of harmony crops, trade for golden lotus... cash up!! OR, the vegetables used for the BiS stat foods sell for a fair amount on the AH, they are a decent money maker. Juicycrunch carrots and mogu pumpkins go for 10g EACH.

Gawd it's good having many farms lol :P


NA.. i didn't "need" the golden lotus.. it was just nice getting one every 15-20 minutes in that spot ( yeti caves ). I got my druid from 85 to 87 in that cave, mining and herbing...killing the yetties and skinning them with my shamy last week i got 30ish golden lotus in there. And i am getting the motes from my farm every day.. cant spend them on golden lotus because my toons use the SoHs atm in their tradeskills

[Multibocks]

I just realized today that Motes are BoP. /doh

I was looting them on all my characters instead of the one who could use them, lol.

[crowdx]

I just realized today that Motes are BoP. /doh

I was looting them on all my characters instead of the one who could use them, lol.

Yeah, my tank who is a herbalist and miner has 140 motes lol. The rest of the team has much fewer. It is only now that I am needing them for the inscription staff that I am kicking myself lol

[Starbuck_Jones]

The rabbit hovels in the Valley of the Four Winds are on a fast spawn and drop decent cloth, coin, and motes. Also on the west side of the Eternal Blossom zone there is a wall area where monkeys spawn and run up to a bunch of pandas. They do have 500k hp, but they were dropping a lot of coin, motes and cloth and gave rep for the Black Prince.

[Lyonheart]

The golden lotus quest where you kill sprits so they drop barrels, then you pick up the barrels. Go up the stairs..sit and enjoy! ( until it gets nerfed ) I go to the top, that way its less intrusive to those on the quest. ALthough you make their quest easy for them.. there will be hundreds of barrels to loot near you lol

[Shodokan]

The golden lotus quest where you kill sprits so they drop barrels, then you pick up the barrels. Go up the stairs..sit and enjoy! ( until it gets nerfed ) I go to the top, that way its less intrusive to those on the quest. ALthough you make their quest easy for them.. there will be hundreds of barrels to loot near you lol

respawn timers are not the greatest here.

skinning if you have the gazelle daily is amazing, but skins are worthless unless you are LW + mote farming.

[Lyonheart]

respawn timers are not the greatest here.

skinning if you have the gazelle daily is amazing, but skins are worthless unless you are LW + mote farming.

It was non stop spawning.. i had 10-15 on me almost all the time. If you go to the top, there are spawns to the left and right and the ones coming up the steps come in waves, with very minor breaks..seconds.. just enough time to loot..then its all crazy again!

[Zzc2]

Hey Lyon, whats the quest that does this?

[Lyonheart]

Hey Lyon, whats the quest that does this?

I have not had the quest again, not sure what its called.. I looked up golden lotus quests on wowhead.. can't seem to find..there are so many. But its very easy to know if you have done it or get it in the future. Its those same little sprites you kill that set fire to the town..but a different quest. They are running up a pathway next to the Inn carrying barrels, the quest is to get 10 barrels. You kill them and they drop the barrels for you to loot. IF you watch where they spawn at the bottom, they come a few at a time and also in big waves of 10 or so periodically. IF you follow them up the stairs, you will see a statue on the first landing half way up. Thats a great spot if not many people are there. I end up at the top.. where you have the flow coming up the stairs, and at the top there are three spawn areas around you, plenty to keep you busy non stop..

Not sure why Shodokan said they don't spawn enough, I have tried every single spot listed on this site and on the web, this was by far the most productive spawning spot of them all with good mote/green/cloth drops.. it also drops those epic skyshards.. i got two that night.. You can sit in one spot and be a turret, kill for hours on end. It might be population related though. I was there at peak hours. Maybe Shodokan was there off hours and they were not spawning as fast.

[crowdx]

Tillers revered, Motes of harmony crops, trade for golden lotus... cash up!! OR, the vegetables used for the BiS stat foods sell for a fair amount on the AH, they are a decent money maker. Juicycrunch carrots and mogu pumpkins go for 10g EACH.

Gawd it's good having many farms lol :P

To clarify, with Tillers revered you get 12 plots to farm which daily yield 12 motes of harmony?

[Lyonheart]

To clarify, with Tillers revered you get 12 plots to farm which daily yield 12 motes of harmony?

Yes.. i just got exalted on my main team and get 16 motes a day each.. banking most of them for when they go BoA ( if they ever do )

[crowdx]

Yes.. i just got exalted on my main team and get 16 motes a day each.. banking most of them for when they go BoA ( if they ever do )
Yes, this is a good reason to get multiple teams to level 87 and start the rep grind :D

[Dawnstrider]

I just found a good farming spot for us multiboxers. I skimmed this thread and didn't see it mentioned so here it is. In Vale of Eternal Blossoms, there is a cave at 27.37 , 19.31.
Patrols of lvl 90 elites spawn pretty quickly and come out of the cave and continue down the path. I took a potion of luck and my five ele shamans and farmed for an hour. This is what I got:

500g
43 Motes of Harmony
29 Greens
320 windwool cloth
8 ghost iron ore
2 white trillium ore
16 black trillium ore
10 Ancient Guo-Lai Cache Keys. (I am told these are worth hanging onto but haven't researched why yet)
And various random grey which I have yet to sell.

As a bonus, each kill gives 11 Rep with the Black Prince up to honored.
There is a quest I almost did which should be avoided if you want to farm these guys. I forget the name but it was a golden Lotus quest where an npc rogue hits you with his aoe stealth and sneakes you up this cave so you can plant a bombs and seal the cave. If you hand in this quest, these mobs will no be available to you anymore as you will enter a different phase. They may be available elsehwere, I do not know.

PS. The mob in the back of the line is a mage and he hurts, kill him first. Hope this helped.

[Lyonheart]

I just found a good farming spot for us multiboxers. I skimmed this thread and didn't see it mentioned so here it is. In Vale of Eternal Blossoms, there is a cave at 27.37 , 19.31.
Patrols of lvl 90 elites spawn pretty quickly and come out of the cave and continue down the path. I took a potion of luck and my five ele shamans and farmed for an hour. This is what I got:

500g
43 Motes of Harmony
29 Greens
320 windwool cloth
8 ghost iron ore
2 white trillium ore
16 black trillium ore
10 Ancient Guo-Lai Cache Keys. (I am told these are worth hanging onto but haven't researched why yet)
And various random grey which I have yet to sell.

As a bonus, each kill gives 11 Rep with the Black Prince up to honored.
There is a quest I almost did which should be avoided if you want to farm these guys. I forget the name but it was a golden Lotus quest where an npc rogue hits you with his aoe stealth and sneakes you up this cave so you can plant a bombs and seal the cave. If you hand in this quest, these mobs will no be available to you anymore as you will enter a different phase. They may be available elsehwere, I do not know.

PS. The mob in the back of the line is a mage and he hurts, kill him first. Hope this helped.

If you have done the first golden lotus quests.. you can no longer do this. This is the phased part before you seal off the cave. those keys open chests that give you random tradeskill mats/motes or whole spirits of harmony and a rep item that is blue or epic.one gives 140ish rep with GL and the epic gives 400+. the keys are rare drops off any mobs in the zone.. if you got 10 in one hour.. thats awesome!

[Dawnstrider]

Thanks. I was just looking at this on wowhead and I guess unless you do this part, there is no rep gaining with Golden Lotus for you. I may have to farm up a couple hundred keys and then do the quest. I also forgot to mention, I took one of my 85 toons here with four of my shamans and he was getting 6k rested xp per kill with 6 mobs in each pack, so this may be a good place to grind out some lvls since they spawn so fast as give good loot at the same time.

[Lyonheart]

Thanks. I was just looking at this on wowhead and I guess unless you do this part, there is no rep gaining with Golden Lotus for you. I may have to farm up a couple hundred keys and then do the quest. I also forgot to mention, I took one of my 85 toons here with four of my shamans and he was getting 6k rested xp per kill with 6 mobs in each pack, so this may be a good place to grind out some lvls since they spawn so fast as give good loot at the same time.

When i did the quest.. i failed to read that i was supposed to follow the npc and stay in his stealth bubble.. so i was killing the mobs and got a lot of loot before I realized what i should be doing. But at the end when the cave closes, I remember wishing i had known the mobs would be gone forever..because its definitely a non stop supply of 'waves' of mobs. I will do other factions first with my next team and farm the crap out of this spot as well 8)

[SaraiE]

Lyonheart,
Can you please direct me to this quest? I just opened up the Gate to the Valley. What quests are you referring to that will be phased out if you complete it? My toons just made lvl87 to open up the Gate with Xuen, the Celestial experience and A Witness to History....

Thanks!

[Khatovar]

The quest is called Barring Entry (http://www.wowhead.com/quest=30634).

[JohnGabriel]

Yes, this is a good reason to get multiple teams to level 87 and start the rep grind :D

Remember with the new rep system you should get one toon to revered first.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6794350230

Seems like best idea is having your teams farm rep with different factions until at least revered, then move everyone over to tillers.

[Shodokan]

Remember with the new rep system you should get one toon to revered first.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6794350230

Seems like best idea is having your teams farm rep with different factions until at least revered, then move everyone over to tillers.

You need to be revered with golden lotus before shadowpan open up and exalted for august celestials

So you can only really do this with tillers, golden lotus, klaxxi, serpent riders IIRC.

[valkry]

Will be interesting to see if they apply this change to other factions. Will make the justicar grind a lot easier (again)

[heyaz]

I leveled 88 and 89 killing the water elementals inside the jade temple. Not the dungeon, but the instanced version you enter while questing. I believe you need to be on this quest chain to enter http://www.wowhead.com/quest=29931
I was getting 5.3m xp per hour when going full speed with guild banner down using a 4 man group. Mote drop is good and not a lot of competition since only other ppl on the quest can enter the area.

So, this area still works. Good xp and drops are the same - motes, greens, and JC patterns like crazy (I looted so many meta patterns I had to pass extras to my alts that aren't JC's).

My 5 frost DK team had one issue - downtime. Main gets near death every big pull but I think it's worth grabbing a blood spec and keeping this area open to grind out half a level here and there until around 89.

[Shodokan]

So, this area still works. Good xp and drops are the same - motes, greens, and JC patterns like crazy (I looted so many meta patterns I had to pass extras to my alts that aren't JC's).

My 5 frost DK team had one issue - downtime. Main gets near death every big pull but I think it's worth grabbing a blood spec and keeping this area open to grind out half a level here and there until around 89.

Dark Succor glyph should allow you to have no downtime.

[cmeche]

So, this area still works. Good xp and drops are the same - motes, greens, and JC patterns like crazy (I looted so many meta patterns I had to pass extras to my alts that aren't JC's).

My 5 frost DK team had one issue - downtime. Main gets near death every big pull but I think it's worth grabbing a blood spec and keeping this area open to grind out half a level here and there until around 89.
Grinded almost 3 lvls here with my shaman. Pally/DKs were pulling 7mill each last night with rested. This place is alot faster than questing, it's just boring as hell.

[Lyonheart]

So, this area still works. Good xp and drops are the same - motes, greens, and JC patterns like crazy (I looted so many meta patterns I had to pass extras to my alts that aren't JC's).

My 5 frost DK team had one issue - downtime. Main gets near death every big pull but I think it's worth grabbing a blood spec and keeping this area open to grind out half a level here and there until around 89.

Do you have to do all the starting quests in the zone before you get whatever opens this up? i followed the link and found the starting NPC but he had no quests.

[Shodokan]

Do you have to do all the starting quests in the zone before you get whatever opens this up? i followed the link and found the starting NPC but he had no quests.

its about a quarter way through the area that you can do it. You need to do the mine first.

[Lyonheart]

its about a quarter way through the area that you can do it. You need to do the mine first.

I have never quested past the starting area in JF..my first team did up to the quest that takes you to that hub surrounded by a lake..then i ran instances for a few levels.. so i have no idea what the 'mine" is hehe. I took my new team all over the map and found no quests anywhere. Just the ones in the starting area. I was hoping to be able to skip a lot of quests.. kind of the point of even bothering to do this in the first place hehe.