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Khatovar
09-24-2012, 07:11 AM
Macros between *'s are called using my DoRandomToggle setup (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/47966-Priority-and-Random-Casting-in-HotKeyNet).

As usual, my setup is probably way more complicated than most people are interested in, but I figured I may as well post it anyway.


Paladin Tank (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormrage/Kina/simple#talents)

For talents, the only ones I use that matter are Sacred Shield (http://www.wowhead.com/spell=20925/sacred-shield) and Divine Purpose (http://www.wowhead.com/spell=86172). My final talent will be Holy Prism (http://www.wowhead.com/spell=114165).

For Glyphs, only Harsh Words (http://www.wowhead.com/item=41107) impacts the macros I use.

Macros in order of priority -


/targetenemy [noharm][dead]
/cast Hammer of Wrath
All my macros use the /targetenemy, but I stripped it out to save space here.


/cast Shield of the Righteous


/cast Avenger's Shield


/castsequence reset=combat/alt Sacred Shield, Hammer of the Righteous, Crusader Strike, Crusader Strike, Hammer of the Righteous, Crusader Strike, Crusader Strike
This lets SS run for a while instead of spamming it. I'm also a fan of having a mix of CS and HotR, mostly to make sure I'm getting AOE agro, but you'll also want to start with HotR for the Weakened Blows (http://www.wowhead.com/spell=115798) effect.



/cast Judgment

/cast Holy Prism
*
/castsequence reset=3/target Word of Glory, null *

Alternate WoG macro


/cast [@player] Word of Glory

While I default my spam to use WoG as an attack, I still want to be able to heal myself with WoG, so I have a mouseover region over my Jamba Proc alert for whenever I get Divine Purpose. That gives me the option to heal myself for "free" or let it roll for SotR. I also have a separate key in case I need to manually use it.

Holy Wrath and Consecration are done manually as needed and is tied into the rest of my team's AOE stuff.




Shaman Healer (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormrage/Çroaker/simple#talents)

Nothing especially interesting in the talents. For Glyphs I use Riptide (http://www.wowhead.com/spell=63273), Flame Shock (http://www.wowhead.com/item=41531) and Telluric Currents (http://www.wowhead.com/item=41536). The last one doesn't really impact my macros much, but I probably wouldn't cast LB at all without it and it'll be the first I drop if something more interesting comes up.


/castsequence reset=5 Healing Stream Totem, Grounding Totem, Searing Totem, Healing Stream Totem, Grounding Totem


/castsequence [@party1target, exists][] reset=target Flame Shock, Lava Burst, Lightning Bolt, Lava Burst, Lightning Bolt, Lava Burst


/castsequence [@party1] reset=5 Unleash Elements, Riptide

*

/castsequence [@party2, exists][] reset=3 Riptide, fred
/castsequence [@party3, exists][] reset=3 Riptide, phred
/castsequence [@party4, exists][] reset=3 Riptide, gertrude
/castsequence [@player] reset=3 Riptide, bertha
*
Those are all individual macros, but I didn't figure they each needed their own code box. See here (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/47966-Priority-and-Random-Casting-in-HotKeyNet) for the deal with Fred and company.




Shaman Enhance (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormrage/Messkit/simple#talents)

Again, talents are pretty uninteresting. Glyphs that impact my macros are Flame Shock (http://www.wowhead.com/item=41531) and Grounding Totem (http://www.wowhead.com/item=41538).



/use 10
/cast [@party1target, exists][] Unleash Elements()
/cast [nodead,combat,harm]Feral Spirit


/cast [@party1target, exists][] Stormstrike


/cast [@party1target, exists][] Lava Lash


/castsequence reset=5 Searing Totem, Healing Stream Totem, Grounding Totem, Healing Stream Totem
/cast [nodead,combat,harm]Feral Spirit


/castsequence [@party1target, exists][] reset=target/5 Flame Shock, Earth Shock, Earth Shock, Earth Shock, Earth Shock

*

/cast Fire Nova


/castsequence [@party1target, exists][] reset=3/alt Lightning Bolt, nil
/cast [nodead,combat,harm]Feral Spirit
*

My DoRandomToggle setup for the Enh uses a ratio of 3 LB:2 Fire Novas:3 "blank" toggles. This combined with a castsequence for LB minimizes the chances of my hardcasting Lightning Bolt and thus resetting my swing timer and killing my DPS. I still use my Pitbull to Manage Procs (http://genus-industri.us/wp/2011/09/10/pitbull4-for-proc-management/) setup, but only for Maelstrom Weapon and rather than using it for sending all my LBs, I use it to keep an eye on MW. If it's up too long, I know that my Randomized Cast is hitting the LB sequence too much and it's not resetting, so mousing over the Pitbull frame I set up sends the Alt+key to reset the macro.

Also, both of my shamans use Toggles/step in conjunction with the Priority setup. For my healer, the first step doesn't call the Riptides for the rest of the party, while the second step does. this cuts down on overspamming Riptide. For my Enhance, the first step puts the Fire Nova/Lightning Bolt on the bottom of the sequence and the second puts it closer to the top. This keeps the LB/FN from overspamming, but also gives it a chance to be top priority to keep it from just sitting there since there's so many short cooldown things going on in her rotation.



Death Knight Unholy (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormrage/Lìfetaker/simple#talents)

I have the Roiling Blood (http://www.wowhead.com/spell=108170) talent so I use Blood Boil to spread diseases instead of Pestilence, but nothing else really effects anything.


/castsequence [nochanneling] [@party1target, exists][] reset=combat/alt Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Boil, null
I've gone back and forth between using this as it's own macro and as a duplicated sequence and I think using duplicated sequences is more reliable. It seems like there's still a chance for Blizzard's servers to prefer /cast over /castsequence, so I think my runes were often being eaten by Scourge Strike and Festering Strike even though they were lower priority, making it difficult to get my Blood Fever from Plague Strike up reliably.



/cast [nochanneling] Dark Transformation

*

/castsequence [nochanneling] [@party1target, exists][] reset=combat/alt Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Boil, null
/cast [nochanneling] [@party1target, exists][] Festering Strike()


/castsequence [nochanneling] [@party1target, exists][] reset=combat/alt Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Boil, null
/cast [nochanneling] [@party1target, exists][] Scourge Strike()


/castsequence [nochanneling] [@party1target, exists][] reset=combat/alt Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Boil, null
/cast [nochanneling][@party1target, exists][] Soul Reaper
*

I use a ratio of 5 Festering : 2 Scourge to keep my diseases going fairly reliably. It's not perfect, but that's what the Alt reset on the castsequence is for. Once I hit 87 and get Soul Reaper, I'll change the ratio to 5 Festering : 1 Scourge : 1 Soul Reaper.



/cast [nopet, nomounted, nochanneling] Raise Dead
/castsequence [nochanneling] Horn of Winter, Blood Boil


/cast [nochanneling] [@party1target, exists][] Death Coil




Paladin Retribution (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormrage/Wìdowmaker/simple#talents)

Again, no talents that really matter except for Sacred Shield. None of my glyphs effect my macros.



/castsequence reset=5 Judgment, Crusader Strike, Judgment, Inquisition, Templar's Verdict, Templar's Verdict, Templar's Verdict

This is designed to get my holy power up and Inquisition going. Once Inquisition is up, I should have time to chain at least 3 TVs before needing to pop Inq again.


/cast Exorcism


/cast Hammer of Wrath


/cast Crusader Strike


/cast Judgment

*

/castsequence [@party1] reset=alt/4 Sacred Shield, null
/cast Templar's Verdict
*


/cast [@party1target] Holy Prism

The extra Templar's Verdict here is a dump for excess holy power or Divine Purpose procs. My ratio for the random cast is 1 Sacred Shield : 4 "blanks".

dancook
09-24-2012, 07:39 AM
Thanks, my paladin's been slacking in my mixed group - this will save me some time :)

Lyonheart
11-03-2012, 07:52 AM
While I default my spam to use WoG as an attack, I still want to be able to heal myself with WoG, so I have a mouseover region over my Jamba Proc alert for whenever I get Divine Purpose. That gives me the option to heal myself for "free" or let it roll for SotR. I also have a separate key in case I need to manually use it."

Using this does not interfere with your TV? It uses holy power, would i not just spam this at 1 or two HPs and skip TV?

Khatovar
11-03-2012, 08:15 AM
While I default my spam to use WoG as an attack, I still want to be able to heal myself with WoG, so I have a mouseover region over my Jamba Proc alert for whenever I get Divine Purpose. That gives me the option to heal myself for "free" or let it roll for SotR. I also have a separate key in case I need to manually use it."

Using this does not interfere with your TV? It uses holy power, would i not just spam this at 1 or two HPs and skip TV?

My tank doesn't have TV, that's a Ret ability and my Ret doesn't use WoG or have Harsh Words. But Holy Power isn't eaten because my WoG on the tank and Sacred Shield on the Ret use 4 "blank" casts randomized with a single actual cast using DoRandomToggle (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/47966-Priority-and-Random-Casting-in-HotKeyNet). This combined with the nulled castsequence means there is only a very slight chance for Holy power to be used on WoG {or in the case of my Ret, a GCD to be used for Sacred Shield}.

Lyonheart
11-03-2012, 08:31 AM
I meant that is used the HP ability.. in this case SotR hehe.. but i see how yo you're using it now..thx!

Eien
11-12-2012, 06:14 AM
Heya.
I'm totally new to this multi-boxing business and even forum posting (lol).
I been reading all over the place and got a lot of basics down but I was curious on two things.

1. For the DoRandomToggle setup (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/47966-Priority-and-Random-Casting-in-HotKeyNet) that Khat mentioned on this thread, how does one do this in ISBoxer?

2. And for the Mosq2 method, there are a lot of references to this method. But it all links to an old page with a video that does not work.

From reading everything, am I safe to assume that one simply put macros in say hot keys 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 - then sets up a mapped key in ISBoxer steps: 1: Actions: 1->all, 2->all, 3->all, 4->all, 5->all, 6->all. And then they just mash that key?

Sorry for the clueless questions, I was simply confused on both. Figured I'd put it in this thread since it was the one that mentions "DoRandomToggle". (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/47966-Priority-and-Random-Casting-in-HotKeyNet) Sorry if it's in the wrong thread.

Thank you in advanced for your replies!

Khatovar
11-12-2012, 06:30 AM
ISBoxer users would probably opt for using a blank action in the second step of a keymap with a "Do Not Advance" setting, but I'd suggest starting a new thread on the topic in the Software forum and linking to the Randomized Casting in HKN (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/47966-Priority-and-Random-Casting-in-HotKeyNet) thread. Your question is more about setup than the macros and there's not usually a lot of traffic to my HKN-setup threads by ISBoxer users.

daanji
11-13-2012, 12:22 AM
Hey Khat,

How much DPS does your protection paladin setup do?

I did some testing tonight on my Level 90 PvP geared protection paladin.

He was doing a low of ~18k DPS while my rets were doing 41k DPS.

What do you get?

Khatovar
11-13-2012, 12:53 AM
I would have to go test. I don't ever bother with DPS meters because I only care that it dies before I do.

Khatovar
11-13-2012, 05:56 AM
Ok, after some time with Recount tonight I would have to say you're getting those numbers off a training dummy, because my disparity isn't that big unless I'm on a dummy and thus not getting any Vengeance on my paladin.

My Tank's average in mediocre gear is about 25k with a peak of 41k on a nice easy tank and spank and all cooldowns. My Ret sits around 34k and peaks at 52k.


Gekkan Fight
http://genus-industri.us/gi_images/gaming/screenshots/recount/boss.png

Overall DPS for Mogu'shan Palace
http://genus-industri.us/gi_images/gaming/screenshots/recount/all.png


At the training dummy, popping cooldowns, even my healer was out-DPSing my tank, and she wasn't even using her DPS macros. {only casting FS and Lava Burst, no Lightning Bolts}.


DPS on dummies

http://genus-industri.us/gi_images/gaming/screenshots/recount/dummy.png

Lyonheart
11-13-2012, 10:05 AM
I'm saving every agil mail i get.. been waiting for the day Enhance can kick ass boxed! Great thing is, i don't have to level a new team.. just re-gear/re-spec 8) I got a few 463 items in dungons yesterday 8)

Khatovar
11-13-2012, 10:54 AM
I've always had a thing for Enh. It was the class I ran to when I finally said "Screw this, I ain't healin' you slackjaws anymore," back in my solo days and is the type of class I look for whenever I play other games. I'm so glad to see her hold her own in DPS for once.

daanji
11-13-2012, 12:22 PM
Thanks for the feedback Khat. My testing was on a training dummy.

Using your macro setup verbatim yielded about 17-18k DPS with my gear. I tweaked some things (added Holy Wrath and Consecration to the rotation and switched to Seal of Truth seal) I got it up to 22k DPS.

Main reason I am exploring this is I am thinking about making one of my Rets in my 10-box setup (5x Frost DKs, 1x Holy Paladin, and 4x Rets) protection.

I think a protection paladin could add to this group, mainly in the form of using the Avenger's Shield + Glyph for 10 sec Dazes and a ranged AoE silence.

Does vengeance no longer work in PvP scenarios? I remember reading something a while back in Cata it got nerfed, though I still see a ton of Blood DKs, Prot Warriors, Prot Paladins running around.


If the Protection Paladins can reach similar DPS levels as DK and can survive better, than I may just switch all my rets to protection.

Khatovar
11-13-2012, 11:51 PM
Because I run with a DK and I try to keep D&D up, my HW and Cons is on another button instead of manual, since I need the click to place D&D. That is also an additional trigger for Fire Nova and bombs for my Shaman.

I don't think Avenger's Shield has AOE silence anymore. Rather, it doesn't work, it only interrupts the first mob it hits, not the ones it bounces to. Not sure if this is a bug or not, supposedly it's been reverted and re-reverted, but as it stands ATM, it's just one target.

According to Wowpedia (http://www.wowpedia.org/Vengeance), vengeance does not trigger from players. It can also be dispelled.

Lyonheart
01-02-2013, 02:01 PM
Khat, is your Enhance set up the same post 5.1? i was using your set up.. modified for isboxer, and it was great.. now somthing is wrong.. could not figure it out last night. It was just a lot lower DPS. I was doing 40k+ on him before 5.1 ..had not tried him since..but last night i was only doing 20k lol

Khatovar
01-03-2013, 05:29 AM
I'm always tweaking little bits here and there. I've moved Feral Spirit to its own macro to get it up more reliably. I also reduced the reset on Lightning Bolt to 2s and added a modifier to force reset, which I trigger with the mouseover region I have in Pitbull and within my randomized toggles. It also resets on target as well. These are the current macros

Macro 1

/targetenemy [noharm][dead]
/assist party1
/use 10
/cast Unleash Elements
/startattack
/petattack

Macro 2

/targetenemy [noharm][dead]
/assist party1
/cast Stormstrike
/petattack

Macro 3

/targetenemy [noharm][dead]
/assist party1
/cast Lava Lash
/petattack

Macro 4

/castsequence reset=5 Searing Totem, Healing Stream Totem, Grounding Totem, Healing Stream Totem
/petattack

Macro 5

/targetenemy [noharm][dead]
/assist party1
/castsequence reset=target/5 Flame Shock, Earth Shock, Earth Shock, Earth Shock, Earth Shock
/petattack

Macro 6

/cast Fire Nova

Macro 7

/castsequence [@party1target,exists][] reset=2/alt/target Lightning Bolt, nil

Macro 8

/cast [nodead,combat,harm]Feral Spirit
/petattack

Macros 1-5 are the normal priority, macros 6, 7, and 8 are the randomized cast. I also use two steps. The first calls the normal priority with the randomized ones at the bottom of the list. The second inverts the order so the randomized casts are at the top.

My Enhancement's randomized priority no longer uses blank keys because my gear is high enough that I'm hitting MW*5 more often, so I've reduced the reset to 2s and added a manual reset within the randomized toggle, and set it up as a mini-prioirty. It looks like this now

Toggle 1 -
Lightning Bolt
Fire Nova

Toggle 2 -
Fire Nova
Wolves

Toggle 3 -
Wolves
Fire Nova

Toggle 4 -
Alt + Lightning Bolt to force reset on that macro
Fire Nova
Wolves