Hunter macro MOP experiment

[honeypot2011]

This is still a work in progress macro..its a bit quirky :)

Ive updated the main post about this here at this link

http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/47416-quot-BADBREATH-quot-Hunter-pet-macros?highlight=badbreath


Transcatt macro explanation


key 4/middle mouse button -- Transcatt macro--was a tranquilize and scatter macro but not renamed it
Code:




/petattack
/petdefensive
/castsequence reset=target arcane shot,concussive shot,serpent sting,kill command,widow venom,tranquilizing shot,cobra shot
/cast cobra shot
/cast froststorm breath
/cast kill command
/cast tranquilizing shot
/cast kill command
/cast silencing shot
/cast froststorm breath
/cast charge
/cast intimidation
/cast silencing shot
/cast arcane shot




/petattack ---- send pet to attack

/petdefensive ---- puts pet in defensive mode,incase i have used petsafe macro which switches it to /petpassive

/castsequence reset=target arcane shot,concussive shot,serpent sting,kill command,cobra shot,widow venom

---- arcane shot( i have the the glyph of marked for death MOP which puts hunters mark on automatically if you use arcane shot,cobra shot etc

---- concussive shot to slow down any enemy

---- serpent sting ( i like to think mainly as a dot for rogues) but i use cobra shot so this is always refreshed on target

---- kill command great pet damage

---- widow venom to reduce to healing on the target for 30 secs if a healer or the target them selves is trying to heal back up

---- tranquilizing shot will hopefully remove a shield or buff from say a frost mage or paladin

---- cobra shot to get back some focus after kill command



/cast froststorm breath ---- mainly for my chimera..will bypass if using another pet..having it in the macro i spam..it will do froststormbreath continually

* this part may seem a bit strange for some ..as at this point,once it has finished the castsequence..the macro "locks up" and will not go back to the begining ( this happened in 4.3..not related to the mop castsequence lockups)

but it does the following...

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*locked part of the macro..but can be unlocked myself by switching to my alternative kill macro..then restarting this one...

but once locked..only these fire off...(also at same time i am using a buff macro for burst damge..using dire beast,lynx rush,rapid fire,bestial wrath etc)

/cast cobra shot ---- cobra shot is now the main shot in the macro and will just cobra shot after cobra shot but will drop through to the casts below

-----BUT 1 advantage of this is..that focus is completely full ALL the time..which means during a fight,kill command is used everytime
it drops off cd...which means..instead of say having only 2 kill commands during a fight..with this..as long as the enemy is alive
kill command will always be used..which any hunter knows..is great damage from your pet..


/cast silencing shot ---- at last for us BM silencing shot for casters..this will cast when ever its off cd

/cast kill command ---- great damage and use all the time not on cd



To me its a get the most out of 1 macro i can macro..it damages,slows,dots,full focus,silence casters,lowers heals on enemy..

just a quirky macro thats a bit differant,may be useful to other hunters if they wish to have a try..you may like or you may not..but for me works great in bgs and pvp..http://www.dual-boxing.com//images/smilies/smile.png

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And that is about it http://www.dual-boxing.com//images/smilies/smile.png..if you have any questions please ask http://www.dual-boxing.com//images/smilies/smile.png


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Video wise


1 First time using sony vegas and i was/did have a footage in the video of my basically explaining what i have put down in written form here,but i am at present full of fluey cold,and my voice isnt that thrilling to listen too at the best of times..so i chose just to show badbreath in action http://www.dual-boxing.com//images/smilies/smile.png

2 I'm not making any leet claims to be a great hunter,in video i twice and i do this sometimes,accidently press disengage when i am pressing keys..good job i have it on short cooldown :P

3 i should disable my walking backward key,i know its faster to run sideways..and i sometimes..fight moving backwards and forwards..even though i don't realize im doing it http://www.dual-boxing.com//images/smilies/smile.png

4 editing wise i could have cut out a couple of seconds here and there..swimming through the water etc..but the last shot..i didnt want to cut because of the tauren coming over the bridge at the end..if cut it might have seemed like a separate attack..
Also if you look at the chat box at one point i had a tell from a fellow hunter.saying how awsome the pet was where did i get it..get that alot in bgs..and i would have zoomed in on the text..if i knew how..

5 i am open to constructive cristism and advice..but plz be gentle with me,i am just having fun,and even though i'm sharing this,i know it won't be evryones cup of tea..

6 also now dreading to come up across 15 chimera's using froststorm breath in a bg..oops http://www.dual-boxing.com//images/smilies/smile.png

Thankyou and bye bye http://www.dual-boxing.com//images/smilies/smile.png)

Also if you like the UI ( i have added a couple of extra things,chocolate bar,skada but you can get it from here,also a great place for any hunter


http://huntsmanslodge.com/gar-ui/


PS This is my armory link ( can see my gear,talents,glphs etc )

I'm basiaclly in a mix of 85 conquest gear and MOP pve gear with any gems enchants i can get from AH

I'M a bit bad,do not tend to do any professions etc lol


http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/kilrogg/Missrobihood/advanced
(http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/kilrogg/Missrobihood/advanced)

[lans83]

Here's the following I use for my Surv Hunter right now. I've only tested it on the targeting dummies but not in the field yet, let me know what you think if you do try it out as well.



Spam button
/castsequence reset=2 Serpent Sting, null (I use the Mark for Death glyph so no need for Hunter's Mark)
/click (whatever your hotbar button is)

Boom Boom button
/cast Cobra Shot
/cast Explosive Shot
/cast Arcane Shot
/cast Black Arrow
/cast Kill Shot


Make sure you put Cobra Shot/Steady Shot first in the list or it will get hung up on the other spells if it has a cooldown. I don't cast CS as much with this one as I did with my previous setup, mostly when I don't have Focus for my other spells or no free procs to cast from LnL or TotH.

I haven't tried with Arcane Shot first, but I can later to see if that makes any difference. Judging by what is above, I'm betting this is the reason it locks up. Try to put Cobra Shot or Steady Shot first on the list. Only thing I don't like about it like this, is it does not always pop off ES when I have Lock and Load up, so those get wasted sometimes, for this you can set on a separate button and manually press along with this button. I took on Thrill of the Hunt talent so that my Focus bar stays above or around 50% most of the fight, leaving enough Focus to cast Black Arrow each cooldown.

This does seem to pop off Arcane Shot every time it comes up as a free focus dump from that talent. Black Arrow hardly got used with the Dire Beast talent for me, that however mixed into this macro did stay up every cooldown.

As I don't PvP, I did not put Widow Shot in there, but can be tested to see if it works also, with it also, might want to put it after Serpent Sting on the first macro before the ,null or apply it seperately when needed.

[honeypot2011]

Hi lans83 :)

And thankyou for that,i will have to have a try sometime :)

also these macros require "bindpad" as they exceed the normal 255 limit

MOP transcatt



/petattack /petdefensive /castsequence reset=target arcane shot,concussive shot,serpent sting,kill command,widow venom,tranquilizing shot,cobra shot /cast cobra shot /cast froststorm breath /cast kill command /cast tranquilizing shot /cast kill command /cast silencing shot /cast froststorm breath /cast charge /cast intimidation /cast silencing shot /cast arcane shot


Also have to add that i do not just use this macro on its own..

my movement keys i use wsad

key Q and key E also have a macro on each of them

key F has a buff and burst macro

and this transcatt macro is on my middle mouse


key Q macro -- called kill1 is really a mend pet macro..and has other things in it also..i've just left it as it is..not really important



/petattack
/petdefensive
/cast mend pet
/cast kill command
/cast froststorm breath
/cast kill shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()


key E macro -- has readiness to rest the the buff macro



/petattack
/petdefensive
/cast arcane shot
/cast arcane shot
/castsequence reset=target tranquilizing shot,arcane shot,cobra shot
/cast froststorm breath
/cast serpent sting
/castsequence reset=target cobra shot,tranquilizing shot
/cast dire beast
/cast silencing shot
/cast readiness
/cast arcane shot


key F macro -- is the buff and burst/opening mop macro



/startattack
/petdefensive
/petattack
/cast rabid
/cast bestial wrath
/castsequence reset=target blink strike,kill command,dire beast,kill command,arcane shot,stampede
/cast blink strike
/cast kill command
/cast focus fire
/cast rapid fire
/cast kill command
/cast stampede


So attacking an enemy normally i spam away at key F to start.this will do the big bursty spells like rabid,bestial wrath etc also kill command will fire off followed by blinkstrike then i will spam key E this sets off readiness and resets
the buff macro,so then i can spam key F again,then during this i will be spamming away on the transcatt macro..middle mouse button..and also switch to key E also.for some arcane shots,dire beast etc,and then repeat until enemy is dead.
they are really the only keys i need..
When we get the next talents i think i will go for glaives..instant cast,15 sec cooldown

:)

Also this is my armoury link.

I have been using MRrobot to sort out my gearing up,gemming etc,but as i am not yet 90,i have gone with my own mix of more crit,mastery for the time being,even though haste is the reccomended

Ive tried haste but it didnt feel right,so my present mix seems ok.but may change as i update my gear.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/kilrogg/Missrobihood/advanced

[Shodokan]

I'm confused as to how it will do a fallthrough with so many things on the GCD.

[honeypot2011]

EDIT :This was pre MOP and although the macro is more uptodate..the explantion etc is void now

Hi shodokan :)

If your meaning the transcatt macro?..it does the first runthrough



/petattack /petdefensive /castsequence reset=target arcane shot,concussive shot,serpent sting,kill command,widow venom,tranquilizing shot,cobra shot

then drops to the cobra shot,which then "sticks" and keeps casting cobra shot..then the other cast spells fire off




/cast cobra shot /cast froststorm breath /cast kill command /cast tranquilizing shot /cast kill command /cast silencing shot /cast froststorm breath /cast charge /cast intimidation /cast silencing shot /cast arcane shot

i use the addon fortxorcist..and they ( silencing shot,dire beast,focus fire,froststorm breath do get cast...

but it wont go back to the top unless i switch to the other macro..or switch target..then it resets..

the buff macro..is not really affected by the gcd..because after the first run through..i press readiness and it resets..so i can have on the target.

2 dire beasts pets out at the same time..and 2 lynx rush 1 after the other..then of course readiness is then on a 5 minute cool down

but i still spam it every now and then as bestial wrath will cast and dire beast,spirit beast blessing


if i get chance i'll try put up a small video..probably better to see it in action than anything :)


ps i know in the normal run of things you wouldnt want it too stick,but for me the plus side of having full focus,to be able to

kill command everytime its available in a fight,instead of maybe 2 kill commands and then no focus..is quirky and cobra shot is slower to cast..but if i can maintain some distance..and pet stays on the target..those extra kill commands..will alot of the time
take down there health to the point they change there mind and run the other way..plus if 2 dire beasts are on them too..3 pets..would make me run too.

:) forgot too froststorm breath is there because i like the chimera alot..for the frostbreath 5 sec slow..and froststorm breath

has no cooldown,so as long as i am spamming the macro its casting..and also doing aoe damage to everything within 12 yards,

and if it lyxns rushs,it goes crazy lol



VIDEO OF MACROS IN ACTION

see below



First i use the burst/opening macro this uses rapid fire,bestial wrath,etc...you will see a dire beast monkey appear,then the chimera
does lynx rush...i then press the alternative macro which fires of readiness..now dire beast etc is reset..you should make out 2 monkeys..then chimera does a 2nd lynx rush..

there is a short time before i start the transcatt macro..if you watch the left side you should see serpent sting,concussive shot,widow venom etc have fired off..also watch my green health bar and the focus bar below it..

Now cobra shot becomes the main cast...focus bar is always full..until kill command fires off then refills..
so now kill command can be used whenever its off cooldown..and also serpent sting is refreshed..focus fire fires off and silencing shot will fire when they can..also dire beast will trigger when available..

not a great quality video and my sony vegas was playing up so had to use this one and it was 2 am gone in the morning,so had to use this other program with watermark..but it gives you an idea of how it works..

may drop silencing shot from the macro,even though it will sometimes cast and stop a caster spell ...it may be better to handle that manually.

[honeypot2011]

double post but may use for future :(

[Shodokan]

Link to video is broken.

[honeypot2011]

Hi ty for letting me know,seems i can see it,but its not yet been approved yet by warcraft movies...i reuploaded it..may take a while before its active..

i did upload a youtube version..but youtube always seems to wreck the quality of uploaded movies..ill take the link down for a bit..until its ready

again ty for letting me know

this is the youtube version..even 480 quality is not good sorry :(



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(http://youtu.be/EVqwkQDG_mM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVqwkQDG_mM&feature=BFa&list=HL1346788263

[honeypot2011]

Hunter macro related..

If you have Glyph of fetch,this will send your pet to loot corpses for you..

As opposed to Auto loot around you where you have to click on the body to get the loot




/console autoLootDefault 1
/run if not _Y then UIParent:HookScript("OnUpdate",function() if _Y>0 and GetTime()>=_Y then _Y=0 SetCVar("AutoLootDefault",0) end end)end _Y=GetTime()+5
/cast [@target, exists, dead] Fetch
/targetlasttarget
/cast fetch


Or this shorter version



#showtooltip Fetch
/cast [@target, exists] Fetch
/targetlasttarget
/cast Fetch


If you have a dead mob targeted it will cast Fetch on that target, and if not it will cast Fetch on the last thing you killed. Note you do have to be standing still during Fetch

[Mokoi]

so, correct me if im wrong, but with your pet casting froststorm breath, your DPS is cut in like.. half? maybe a bit less? because it can not do it's regular attacks while channeling that spell, right? doesnt work very well on my hunter TBH.. what am I doing wrong?

[honeypot2011]

Hi Mokoi

With the chimera casting froststorm breath,its still doing its normal damage,and all regular attacks,bite,frostbreath etc..

its actually better because as there is no focus to cast froststorm breath its just spams all the time..doing damage all the time..

The part where DPS maybe a little down..would be to do with the transcatt macro...because this is not a straight arcane,cobra macro

it contains other spells too,like tranquilizing shot,widow venom,concussive shot etc..

It does do good damage,but its an all in one macro...to slow the enemy,remove shield from a paladin,priest,lower healing etc


I would send you here,its an updated version that i am using now,scroll down and youll see the macros and video in the same post...

The transcatt macro in that post had problems though,i will re-edit it,and if you go to the last post on there you will see the one i am using now


http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/47416-quot-BADBREATH-quot-Hunter-pet-macros/page2?highlight=badbreath

:)

[Shania]

Honey, the macro's taht you know work, request em to go into http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/47938-The-MoP-Macro-Library/page3?p=367950#post367950 for easy finding/access to keep track of, maybe ?

[honeypot2011]

Hi Shania

You have a good point and i see how you mean,

The only thing is these are a bit unconventional macros,they are messy and may be wrong,and although this works for me,and i get on with it,maybe for someone else they may be clunky etc,

i originally shared these more as personal experiment,built around using the chimera pet,and they are off the normal beaten track..


There not going to be huge DPS macros etc,my goal was really to have sort of an all in one macro,cut down on keys to press and hopefully make it work..

If other people can use them and they work for them then thats cool,i would never say ohh these macros are the one and only you need to have in mop as a hunter..


We all play differently and probably this is my style,and some one else when they try will go ,what the heck is this mess lol

when im bashing away at these macros i do it without thinking,whereas some may struggle..

Who knows probably im doubting myself,and when you have a go shania you can tell me if it works for you..

One other thing maybe,that these macros as well do not really fall into a pvp or pve category,would be tricky to pigeon hole them..

For me bm pvp is my main use for it,but it works just as well in pve on mobs when questing etc..


Ive just hit 90 last night...and added glaive toss into the mix,and managed after a lot of hours of trying to also get kill shot to work in the macro too

This ive only tried on mobs and so far its looking good,and ive videoed some of it in action,and i plan to go back into a bg and see how that goes,


I had already been in eye of storm to start getting some conquest points,and my first try went really well,so i cant wait to be fully mop pvp geared and see how things go..

also so i Dont keep trying different things and post the new versions in other posts..this updated transcatt macro..i'll post OVER the old one and only update/edit that post...so the macros in there are always the ones i am using..

posted here just so you know that its updated


/petattack
/petdefensive
/cast frost breath
/cast charge
/castsequence reset=target arcane shot,concussive shot,serpent sting,kill command,widow venom,tranquilizing shot,kill shot,cobra shot,kill shot
/cast cobra shot
/cast froststorm breath
/cast kill command
/cast glaive toss
/cast [@target, exists] kill shot
/cast arcane shot
/cast kill shot
/cast glaive toss
/cast froststorm breath
/cast kill shot
/cast silencing shot
/cast kill shot
/cast intimidation
/cast kill shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()


*its pig ugly,has lots of doubled up casts,has cast in front of castsequence,drop through casts..i know ,i know :P
i may be the worst macro editor ever,but i just know when i play and hit this it works,or something is after a fashion..probably it could be half the size,etc etc
anyway..i'll go hide in a corner now :)

will always be updated on this page of post

http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/47416-quot-BADBREATH-quot-Hunter-pet-macros/page2?highlight=badbreath


This is transcatt macro on its own with out the buff macros etc...

best changed quality to 720 hd

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The clicking is me spamming away at the mouse button :P..and also because cobra shot takes a longer cast..im spamming all the time.. :)..Kill shot on the final kill gave a nice 61 k ...will obvouisly be more when im geared up properly..


short pvp video

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[daanji]

Hey Honey,

Thanks for all the posts. I'll be giving your setup a try as well. I currently have 10x Hunters at Level 80 that I boosted with RAF.
I am going to start leveling them to 90, so I am getting everything setup for the first time.

I did some testing with your main macro above. At level 80 with shit gear and a boar (starter pet) I was able to pull 1k DPS. I think that is decent given my gear but I'll have to try it out more later.


Have you done any DPS measurements with your setup? It would be interesting to see how much DPS you are doing compared to theoretical.

[honeypot2011]

Hi Daanji :)

The new short vid above i did using the transcatt macro above on its own without any buff macro..just to show it in action etc..

Dps wise..i do have the skada meter top left..which did 632k over the the time of fighting those 2 mobs..on that macro only

I did make a video of using the whole buffs and transcatt macro..but the mob died just as stampede cast..and was about 332 k at that point..

How would you judge the dps if say i did the same on the dummies?over a set time? or something like that?

I am maybe a low too with my crap gear..still a mix of cata pvp season 11 gear and mixed greens/blues of mop pve gear


just uploading a short pvp video i made..video in post above :)

[daanji]

Damage is typically measured in damage per second. I believe you are quoting total damage.

To measure DPS, you can use the mod Recount.

Just install it, then in game do

/recount toggle

and the window will pop up. Go to a target dummy for a Level 90, then hammer await for 5 minutes .

From the window, you can see a variety of statistics. use the arrow buttons to change the statistics you are looking at.

You can see total damage, damage per second, healing done, healing per second, and more.

If you click on one of the entries, you can get detailed information broken on a per toon basis and see what abilities were used, # crits, # hits, # misses, min, max, average, etc.


Secondly, you can compare this data to the theoretical damage that a Beast Mastery Hunter can do with your gear.

Take a look at http://rawr.codeplex.com/ . It is pretty easy to use. It will give you a general ball park of what your DPS should-be based on your current spec and gear.