boosting in the new SM?

[heyaz]

I ran them both last night on my druid.

- Library/Armory combined. You have to grab a shield and walk slowly through the archers, it's just infinite knockbacks. When you hit hound guy, trust me you cannot get past that barricade of lvl 30 elites as a level 85 - they instagib you. Rest is as normal, run through, train entire group back and aoe down.

- Graveyard/cathedral combined. First room has infinitely spawning 31 elites. They don't drop loot but I wonder were they careless enough to make them give xp? If so it'll be hotfixed quick. Could be like the old ST glitch. I couldn't verify because I have no toons and I couldn't even pay someone in trade 500g to help me test it on an alt (people were that distracted). Anyone know? Could be a nice boosting spot to "take advantage of"

[MiRai]

It's doubtful they'll let that slide for long. They've removed XP gains from all of the infinitely "summoned" adds in numerous instances.

I'm sure these instances are fun for playing at the correct level range, but we might need to look elsewhere for speed boosting.

[Shodokan]

It's doubtful they'll let that slide for long. They've removed XP gains from all of the infinitely "summoned" adds in numerous instances.

I'm sure these instances are fun for playing at the correct level range, but we might need to look elsewhere for speed boosting.

SM cath portion has just as many mobs as before which will be fine for boosting. Armory by comparison seems to have less overall since the instance was basically cut in half and merged with library... so maybe its net the same.

With them being on separate instance lockouts though it might be better to quest.

[roddo]

That sucks, 22-38 in sm was really fast the 3 times i've done it the last month, guess I'll be doing sfk, rfk and possibly WC to fill some of the gap. Uldaman on the high end is good xp, not really sure where else i'd go now.

[Shodokan]

That sucks, 22-38 in sm was really fast the 3 times i've done it the last month, guess I'll be doing sfk, rfk and possibly WC to fill some of the gap. Uldaman on the high end is good xp, not really sure where else i'd go now.

quest since gathering quests are really fast.

[Palee]

Yea i'm doing questing on my 10 toons. It's really fast with RAF. And definitely faster than doing 5 at a time in instances.

[Shodokan]

I did 25-32 in about 40 mins in SM. Its still REALLY good, at least cath.

[Lyonheart]

I ran them both last night on my druid.

- Library/Armory combined. You have to grab a shield and walk slowly through the archers, it's just infinite knockbacks. When you hit hound guy, trust me you cannot get past that barricade of lvl 30 elites as a level 85 - they instagib you. Rest is as normal, run through, train entire group back and aoe down.

- Graveyard/cathedral combined. First room has infinitely spawning 31 elites. They don't drop loot but I wonder were they careless enough to make them give xp? If so it'll be hotfixed quick. Could be like the old ST glitch. I couldn't verify because I have no toons and I couldn't even pay someone in trade 500g to help me test it on an alt (people were that distracted). Anyone know? Could be a nice boosting spot to "take advantage of"

I just tried this.. i can not get to the archers.. my whole team dies in seconds. I grab a target shield and it keeps you from being knocked back.. but there is no avoiding the fire and that's what kills me. Any tips?

[MiRai]

I just tried this.. i can not get to the archers.. my whole team dies in seconds. I grab a target shield and it keeps you from being knocked back.. but there is no avoiding the fire and that's what kills me. Any tips?
Are you boosting or are you playing it at the normal level?

[Lyonheart]

Are you boosting or are you playing it at the normal level?

normal levels..RaFing teams, at level, through RDF

I looked at videos for it.. its not so bad solo, but its hard to get a stacked group through the fire. As a solo toon. you can dodge fire easy enough. The archers shoot at 3 random targets it looks like. so if stacked you get 3 fires in one spot.

[roddo]

There any way of pulling it? Or running through then using iwt to run your group up?

[MadMilitia]

With the way collects work now, nothing is better for multiboxers than questing.

[heyaz]

With the way collects work now, nothing is better for multiboxers than questing.

No, boosting is still actually an order of magnitude faster.

[Lyonheart]

No, boosting is still actually an order of magnitude faster.

With RaF its not an a lot faster.. it is faster though. It depends on the person and how efficient they are at questing. BUT questing is much more rewarding in many ways. You learn how to play the class a bit. You get more money in the end and you level your guild 8)

[MiRai]

With RaF its not an a lot faster.. it is faster though. It depends on the person and how efficient they are at questing. BUT questing is much more rewarding in many ways. You learn how to play the class a bit. You get more money in the end and you level your guild 8)
Seeing as you can boost an entire team up to 80 in a single day, I would say that it's still a lot​ faster. You cannot quest a team to 80 in a single day.

[Peli]

Seeing as you can boost an entire team up to 80 in a single day, I would say that it's still a lot​ faster. You cannot quest a team to 80 in a single day.

I think that got slowed down a lot by the removal of HGWT. Having to physically fly across continents takes significantly longer than logging out and logging onto an alt strategically stationed near an instance.

[leroyreborn]

I think that got slowed down a lot by the removal of HGWT. Having to physically fly across continents takes significantly longer than logging out and logging onto an alt strategically stationed near an instance.
All you need is a 2 person flying mount and just fly to the instances stone and summon your group.. sure its slower than just summoning them the old way but dose not take that much longer.

[MiRai]

I think that got slowed down a lot by the removal of HGWT. Having to physically fly across continents takes significantly longer than logging out and logging onto an alt strategically stationed near an instance.


All you need is a 2 person flying mount and just fly to the instances stone and summon your group.. sure its slower than just summoning them the old way but dose not take that much longer.
I've never used HGWT and I've always used leroy's method. I don't have any record breaking times to show off, but I also didn't boost anything in Cata up to 80 because I barely played this expansion solo. Flying to each instance with a two-man mount and summoning your team should literally add less than 40 minutes of overall time while boosting from 1-80.

[Lyonheart]

I'm not very focused when i quest.. but I'm betting with the way collection quests work, and if you skip the ground item collection types, it would be a lot faster than questing was prior to the patch. Be nice if someone would try it. I know i enjoy mixing it up, questing some, PvP some, instance some, and its plenty fast for me. Ive never taken longer than 2 days played to get to 80 ( with RaF). I'll have to keep tabs on my progress now.

[Peli]

I've never used HGWT and I've always used leroy's method. I don't have any record breaking times to show off, but I also didn't boost anything in Cata up to 80 because I barely played this expansion solo. Flying to each instance with a two-man mount and summoning your team should literally add less than 40 minutes of overall time while boosting from 1-80.

I'm not sure if it's just my client or what, but whenever I enter a new zone, 1/3 of the time the toon on the back of my rocket will disconnect. When that doesn't happen, they phase out into a cross-realm zone, which is incredibly annoying since I have to then backtrack into the previous zone to pick them up. This made the flight from SW to SM take almost 15 minutes just now... I'm not looking forward to the flight to Outlands...

[heyaz]

With RaF its not an a lot faster.. it is faster though. It depends on the person and how efficient they are at questing. BUT questing is much more rewarding in many ways. You learn how to play the class a bit. You get more money in the end and you level your guild 8)

You'd have to be a pretty efficient quester to gain 1-1.5 levels in a <10 minutes which is what you get boosting with RAF.

[Multibocks]

How does boosting compare with 5 at level characters running the dungeon normally?

[JohnGabriel]

How does boosting compare with 5 at level characters running the dungeon normally?

It doesn't compare. While you would get more exp per kill, it would take an hour to run each dungeon in LFG at normal level. By the time you get through SFK one time in LFR you're level raised from 15-16 but the booster is now level 40 running ZF.

[roddo]

Fastest way to level is still 4 slaves following a max level, geared out the ass booster. I've been boosting with an 83 dk and although its fast, its nowhere near as fast as what others are getting with 85's in purples. Still hell of a lot faster than questing or a 5 man group. If he had more aoe capabilities it might go faster, dps is my biggest issue atm.

[MiRai]

It doesn't compare. While you would get more exp per kill, it would take an hour to run each dungeon in LFG at normal level. By the time you get through SFK one time in LFR you're level raised from 15-16 but the booster is now level 40 running ZF.
I couldn't have said it any better myself. ;)

[Shodokan]

Essentially boosting trumps all because of time investment.

Once you hit 15 you can be 23 in 1 hour from stockades runs.
Another hour you are 35 from SM runs
Another hour you are 45 from SM runs and a run or two of stratholme
Another hour to hour and a half you are 58 doing LBRS runs
Another hour you are 65 from ramparts and a few sethekk runs
Another hour you are 70 from sethekk + UK
Another hour you are 74 from nexus (2 runs) + DTK + 2 runs of Gundrak
Another hour you are 78 from another gundrak run + AoA + 2-3 HoL runs
Another 30 mins and you are 80

Total time: 12 hours from level 1 with BoAs

If you quest... You can see that it takes you 2 hours to do 1-15 or so. After that your travel time increases due to quest hubs being everywhere and doesn't actually get any faster till flying in outland.

You can have 15-20 mins or more of every hour be travel time between quest npcs, quests and the next zone due to raf exp requiring you to move zones very rapidly.

[heyaz]

Fastest way to level is still 4 slaves following a max level, geared out the ass booster. I've been boosting with an 83 dk and although its fast, its nowhere near as fast as what others are getting with 85's in purples. Still hell of a lot faster than questing or a 5 man group. If he had more aoe capabilities it might go faster, dps is my biggest issue atm.

Druid feral/guardian is pretty fast and my favorite by far. Sprint, stampeding roar, skull bash, and wild charge get you all over an instance pretty fast and you can ranged pull with faerie fire. You have pretty much unlimited high output aoe with berzerk+swipe in cat form, when the instances get higher level (60s, 70s) you can switch to bear if needed and thrash/swipe. Since 5.0.4 you can now break roots without using your sprints, which helps in places like BRD with those damn nets.

Mage aoe output is also high and unlimited but it's harder to tank really large pulls being in cloth.

DK as frost has good aoe and ranged pull, but there are cooldowns and no way to switch to tank if necessary. Blood DK can tank anything but aoe dps is lower. There's also no way to speed up travel time in the instance due to no charge/sprint and no way to break roots.

Warrior has good mobility with charge and heroic leap and such, and tank spec can put out good aoe damage, but you can't sprint.

Paladin was my favorite before I tried druid. May still be good with mass exorcism and such but overall I don't think they have constant high damage aoe like a mage or druid.

Rogue/hunter/warlock I don't know.

Shaman suck.

[heyaz]

Essentially boosting trumps all because of time investment.
Once you hit 15 you can be 23 in 1 hour from stockades runs.


For Horde I believe SFK is stille the alternative to Stockades. Level 12 (or 13?) required to enter and you can get to 22 or 23 in an hour or so. You will have to log off for the instance lockout, or switch to another team with another booster.

[thefunk]

For Horde I believe SFK is stille the alternative to Stockades. Level 12 (or 13?) required to enter and you can get to 22 or 23 in an hour or so. You will have to log off for the instance lockout, or switch to another team with another booster.

Instance lockout is account wide so you can't do this.

[heyaz]

Instance lockout is account wide so you can't do this.

I didn't say switch to another team and booster on the same account :)
I'm fully aware of how the instance lockout works, I've done my share of instance runs, boosting or otherwise.

[Palee]

I went to SM with my lvl 29 paladins and instead of the standard old pull a group and kill I see a bunch of archers shooting at me from range???
WTF? Do I need to go back to questing now?

[drarkan]

That fight messed me up too... not too sure what to do there. I put on the shields on 3 guys (only 3 shields to be had....) then tried to heal through the rest of the fire. No way to rush in since you are slowed by the shield so whats the best way to do that fight? Even single boxing would be tough if the group doesn't know what to do there.

Found this video (Edit: Changed to this video, It was more entertaining.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZdw_XrIrL0

[keteran]

you have to click on the arrow target thing and use it as a barracade, i just take my main dude and run him down there then kill the archers with him.

[drarkan]

Good idea. I was planning on trying that next I went in there.

[Lyonheart]

The problem is, when you try to bring all your toons.. they are stacked, and the archers shoot the fire in at more than one target, so you end up getting stacked fire bombs and it kills you faster. I single toon can dodge the fire a little easier.

[Peli]

The problem is, when you try to bring all your toons.. they are stacked, and the archers shoot the fire in at more than one target, so you end up getting stacked fire bombs and it kills you faster. I single toon can dodge the fire a little easier.

Don't bring all your toons. Drop the slaves at the end of the courtyard and just go kill the archers with your main, then have your alts run up the courtyard to reunite with your main and continue on your way.

[heyaz]

Don't bring all your toons. Drop the slaves at the end of the courtyard and just go kill the archers with your main, then have your alts run up the courtyard to reunite with your main and continue on your way.

Can't you just... leave them there and train back most of the instance? I tried a pull on my druid the other day and trained guys all the way back from the last boss, a few may have tethered back but it was a huge pull.

I keep hearing about doing boosting with lowbies on follow... y u do this before level 70-80 instances?

[Lyonheart]

Only time i put nubs on follow is when they do the quests for that instance.

[Meathead]

You have to be 23 now to enter SM! WTF :( I was just leveling toons to 21 moved then all over and bam! " you have to be 23 "

[keteran]

You can go to the other part of SM right across from the cath entrance, that one is still 21 I think and it doesn't take long to get to 23.

[roddo]

if your alliance just stay in stocks until 23. i realize you already moved your tonns, but for next time....