Coming back!!! Hell yea!!!

[Palee]

I took a long break from multiboxing and I want to come back now that MoP is being released.

I used to 5 box HPal + 4DKs like everyone else and their grand mother. The reason I stopped multiboxing was because Blizzard makes changes all the time and one way or another my boxing comp felt unable to adapt. For a while warriors were OP, then rogues became OP, mages were OP all the time, etc. I needed to be more agile into changing my team to counter all these changes that Blizzard was doing. But that meant a bunch of leveling I was not willing to put up with.

So now that I'm coming back to boxing, I want to use a different strategy. Which is I need to get all classes that are viable in boxing up to 90 and get conquest gear for all of them at the same time. What this means is that no matter what happens mid season to a class or another, I can adapt by changing my comp on the fly.

Also, instead of 5 boxing, I'm going to 10 box. In AV and IoC 5 boxing feels limited, since in those BGs i'm not really playing to win, but to smash faces hard and get as many emo whispers as possible from lvl 1s. So that means I need to be able to kill 30+ players by myself. I think 10 can achieve that with 2-3 healers and 7-8 dps. Also, I want to try raids solo at some point.

So the teams that I want to level are 10 of each of these classes: DK, Paladin, Warrior, Druid, Monk, Shaman. This covers 6 melee classes and 4 healing classes which is more than enough.
I'm not interested in Mage, Warlock, Hunter, Rogue, Priest because these are not boxable, at least not competitively.

Hunters might be an option now that they lose the dead zone, but multi rogues are gimped since we can't use all of their skills effectively.
And the caster classes are just not interesting to me.

Why am I writing this post? First of all to do some conversation with my fellow boxers :) and then I need some advice on how to start 10 accounts. I already have 5 now, but they don't have MoP on them, so if I only buy 5 more accounts, upgrading all 10 to MoP means $60*5 + $30*5 = $450 but I would be really gimped because RAF will not work properly with 5 existing accounts (i.e. I can't level 5 at a time and have the XPx3 bonus, only 4 at a time).
If I buy 10 new accounts that will cost $600 which is only $150 more. So my existing accounts are not worth much now.

So, do you guys have any advice on how to setup 10 brand new accounts?
More specific questions:

1) Should I have 2 bnets or 10 bnets? In my 5 boxing I had one bnet and it was painful to always have to select the account at the login screen. If they are separate bnets then I think I don't have to select anything if I save the username.
2) The link scheme? 1>2>3>4>5>6>7>8>9>10? Or something else?
3) Anything else that you guys want to share :)
4) I need some encouragement words to pull this through and not give up when I realize how much work all this will require in the beginning :)

Thanks,
Palee

[Lyonheart]

Quote "1) Should I have 2 bnets or 10 bnets? In my 5 boxing I had one bnet and it was painful to always have to select the account at the login screen. If they are separate bnets then I think I don't have to select anything if I save the username."

If you use ISboxer, once you make a team..log them in.. you never have to select them again.. it remembers each account and sub account. bad thing about 10 accounts is you would need, and i do mean need, 10 authenticators! that would but nutz!

[Palee]

Good point about the authenticators lol

[F9thRet]

Lyonheart raises a good point. One thing to keep in mind , is if you plan to do pet battles amongst yourself, you will need 2 B-net accounts. Just a heads up is all.

Anyways, welcome back man. Always glad to see another boxer.

Stephen

[Khatovar]

1) Should I have 2 bnets or 10 bnets? In my 5 boxing I had one bnet and it was painful to always have to select the account at the login screen. If they are separate bnets then I think I don't have to select anything if I save the username.

Even if you don't use ISBoxer, you can avoid having to select accounts by keeping individual Config.wtf files. I have my main WoW install, then 4 slave folders that are symlinked. Each has an unlinked Config.wtf. Each Config.wtf file has a line of your account names


SET accountList "ACCT1|ACCT2|!ACCT3|ACCT4|ACCT5|"

The one with the exclamation point is the last account that was logged in and thus the account that will automatically be selected in the dropdown next time you launch.

As long as each slave has its own Config.wtf with its own account selected, you're in ezmode. Set the account in that line by putting ! in front of it and you never have to select the dropdown again. That's how I've been doing it with HotKeyNet for over a year.

[Palee]

Wow Khatovar, that's awesome. How do I create 4 slaved folders symlinked? I can probably look it up but just in case you have a good link.

Thanks!

[Khatovar]

There's a post here (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/23338-Howto-Increase-multiboxing-loading-times-on-single-computer-Up-to-300-800-faster-loading-times) about it. You'll want to go here (http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/hardlinkshellext.html#download) and grab both downloads for whatever OS you're using.

Once that's installed, you'll get a Symlink option on your right-click menu.

Make a copy of your WoW folder, skipping the things you are going to symlink. I symlink Cache, Data, Interface, and Screenshots. So, copy everything else into new folders for your slaves {I have WoW - Slave1-4}.

Go back to your main's folder. I leave it open in its own window just to make it easier. Hold down Ctrl and select the subfolders you want to symlink {Cache, Data, Interface, Screenshots}. Right click on a selected folder. You will see a new option in your menu called "Pick Link Source". Select that.

Go into one of the slave folders and right-click again. This time you will see 2 new options "Cancel Link Creation" and "Drop As...". Select "Drop As..." and on the flyout select "Symbolic Link". Your slave folder should now have all the same folders as your main, but the symlinked ones will have a little Arrow icon over them.

Go back and do the Pick Link Source and Drop As... Symbolic Link for all your remaining folders.

To select the account, you can either go in and use Notepad to edit the Config.wtf for each of them, or you can launch and log in to each account and let the game save it.

[Palee]

Cool thanks!

[Khatovar]

Just make sure you change your launch location for your slaves in whatever program you're using so that it uses the exe in the individual slave folders. That will make each slave use their own Config.wtf

[Ñightsham]

Why am I writing this post? First of all to do some conversation with my fellow boxers :) and then I need some advice on how to start 10 accounts. I already have 5 now, but they don't have MoP

2) The link scheme? 1>2>3>4>5>6>7>8>9>10? Or something else?

.... I'm getting ready to add 5 more accounts to my existing 5, and from what I understand your method listed above is the correct way to go in order to get the best benefit for the triple xp and all.

[Shodokan]

Before you undertake this I want you to understand the reprocussions if your main goal is PVP (to be fully geared, and competing in arena). You want every class to be able to adapt on the fly namely for arena i take it.

Having 10 accounts is more a burden than a blessing unless you plan to keep all 6 groups geared. Hell keeping all 6 groups geared is going to be hard even with 5 of each unless you currently are un-employed and do not wish to push rating with any particular composition. The amount of arena wins per week would be about 10 per team at 1500 rating or below and this would take you approximately 20-24 weeks to get fully geared in which the season will be almost over and any advantage you might have gear wise by playing a particular composition is gone and those who have t2 in 3's and whatnot who are bored and doing 5's will give you more trouble than its worth normally. You have a leg up once a season and that is with your ability to focus fire and getting t1 weps before many people seem to get theirs.

I understand you want to raid and all of that. But mixing and matching from a PVP standpoint the way you want (minus AV and IoC) can be accomplished with one group of each in multiples of 5. If you have 10 accounts and 10 of each type of character to gear it is going to get overwhelming and honestly if you don't get burnt out within a month I'd be surprised.

I am doing something similar so I can't say it is a bad idea in general... just doing it with 10 opposed to 5 is a lot of work. Also have to take into account time it might take less viable comps to actually get their weekly wins etc. The one thing I will say is that 5 boxing to a high rating is going to be a bit more difficult than having a reliable and skilled healer plus your 4 toons (for 5's at least).

I suggest having a focus team you wish to master and leveling/gearing the rest at a different pace. I've been doing it in 3's single boxing and dual-boxing for the most part and I can tell you from experience maintaining high rating and getting geared at a good pace can take time and dedication. Luckily enough I was able to sit 2200 rating the first week of this past two seasons which helped eleviate a lot of stress and allowed me to focus on 5's for rating/points for my main team but keeping my 3 rets geared this past season required LFR, PVP etc and one of them still doesn't have their 2200 weapon. I also have a set of shaman and two warriors I just couldn't bring myself to play because of the time investment to gear them in honor gear before even starting on arena.

All in all I just wanted to point out the time investment and sacrifice you'd be making and how it will hault overall success/speed of success competitively to do it in that manner. You'll have support from people but please don't kill yourself doing it :)

[Palee]

Thanks Shodokan for the warning, I know this is not going to be easy.
In order to not burn myself out I will only attempt to get higher ratings in arena with one team of 5s.
With all the others I will just do it for points. That way I can keep it casual and sane.
The first season in MoP I will mostly likely only have a couple of teams ready so my plan is longer term.
I used to always be very impatient in WoW, not doing anything unless it had instant rewards, that didn't work out very well.
So I want to take it slow and plan it properly, while keeping a casual schedule.
It will work out, you will see.

[Shodokan]

Thanks Shodokan for the warning, I know this is not going to be easy.
In order to not burn myself out I will only attempt to get higher ratings in arena with one team of 5s.
With all the others I will just do it for points. That way I can keep it casual and sane.
The first season in MoP I will mostly likely only have a couple of teams ready so my plan is longer term.
I used to always be very impatient in WoW, not doing anything unless it had instant rewards, that didn't work out very well.
So I want to take it slow and plan it properly, while keeping a casual schedule.
It will work out, you will see.

Thats my same plan. To have 2 teams s1, 4 teams s2, 5-6 teams s3.

[JohnGabriel]

Getting alot of toons to high level isn't so tough, its just gearing them all up that is the tough part.

If you only really care about having the toons available if Blizzard buffs or nerfs a certain class, then your plan sounds like a solid one. You would only have the two main teams to keep geared and the rest could just sit, and only get geared up if you need them.

[Acidburning]

just to add my 2cents. When I came back 6 months ago, I jumped from 5boxing to 7boxing. Limited by my computer. I tried 8, but it wasn't happening in TB.
I run, HPally, RShaman, Hpriest, and 4DK. Like many, in Cata I had 4Ele Shammys, I had the 4Ret+1DK, and some other various experiments. I love outdoor pvp. The past few months, I login, check the TB timer, note it, come back later. I do a handful of instances for mounts, and that's it until MOP.
To my point. I think you should consider 4healer, 6dps when 10boxing AV or Isle. You want to take on 30+, you need the heals for it. Adding 2 healers to my team, insane boost in TB. My dps is the same, I just outlast them all. I have easily taken on 3x my team in TB.
Areans, not so much lol. I am just average, I have been hovering 1500-1600s. I try not to take it to seriously, always for points/ gear.
I am have been kicking myself. I saw someone post their pvp video, think it was a 10boxer. He had like 4 druids healing his DKs. Looked sick. I don't think my Rshammy and Hpriest are the best choices, but I am going to make it work in MOP. I just don't want to level up or xfer another toon anymore.

Acid

[roddo]

I used to play everquest with a guy named palee back on torvonilous server, probably not the same guy but if so welcome.

[Palee]

I used to play everquest with a guy named palee back on torvonilous server, probably not the same guy but if so welcome.

Yea I'm not the same guy :)

[Palee]

just to add my 2cents. When I came back 6 months ago, I jumped from 5boxing to 7boxing. Limited by my computer. I tried 8, but it wasn't happening in TB.
I run, HPally, RShaman, Hpriest, and 4DK. Like many, in Cata I had 4Ele Shammys, I had the 4Ret+1DK, and some other various experiments. I love outdoor pvp. The past few months, I login, check the TB timer, note it, come back later. I do a handful of instances for mounts, and that's it until MOP.
To my point. I think you should consider 4healer, 6dps when 10boxing AV or Isle. You want to take on 30+, you need the heals for it. Adding 2 healers to my team, insane boost in TB. My dps is the same, I just outlast them all. I have easily taken on 3x my team in TB.
Areans, not so much lol. I am just average, I have been hovering 1500-1600s. I try not to take it to seriously, always for points/ gear.
I am have been kicking myself. I saw someone post their pvp video, think it was a 10boxer. He had like 4 druids healing his DKs. Looked sick. I don't think my Rshammy and Hpriest are the best choices, but I am going to make it work in MOP. I just don't want to level up or xfer another toon anymore.

Acid

Yea I'm defintely going to experiment with multiple healers. 4 might be too much but 3 are probably good.