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halabar
07-22-2012, 09:36 PM
So started working on an arcane mage rotation, based off the reccomended rotations over at: http://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/371-arcane-mage-mists-of-pandaria-rotation-changes-talents-and-glyphs/

And sofar, I have the following...


/castsequence Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast
/cast Nether Tempest
/cast Mirror Image
/cast Arcane Power
/use Brilliant Mana Gem

with Arcane Missiles and Evocation as manual casts. Trying to figure out how to get Arcane Missiles in a macro since it a) is based on a proc, and b) is channeled. So how do you get it in a macro without the channeling being broken?

I'm also eventually running out of mana with both mana gem and evocation still on CD.

valkry
07-22-2012, 09:45 PM
/stopmacro [channeling]

I use that on my priests so i can spam my mind flay button without stop starting the cast every time i spam it

halabar
07-22-2012, 10:23 PM
/stopmacro [channeling]

I use that on my priests so i can spam my mind flay button without stop starting the cast every time i spam it

Will that work if you are spamming a 2-button macro pair, or does it need to be part of the same macro? (In other words, would I need to include it in the above macro, or could it work as a second button?)

halabar
07-22-2012, 10:49 PM
hmm.. tried a few variations around this...


/stopmaco [channeling]
/castsequence Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Missiles
/cast Nether Tempest
/cast Mirror Image
/cast Arcane Power
/use Brilliant Mana Gem

but the Arcane Missles seems to get cut off still (and doesn't fire as often as it should).

Cptan
07-22-2012, 10:54 PM
/stopmaco [channeling]

Typo error?

valkry
07-22-2012, 10:55 PM
^you are missing an 'r' in macro

halabar
07-22-2012, 11:01 PM
^you are missing an 'r' in macro

Doh!

halabar
07-22-2012, 11:32 PM
ok, after correcting my spelling, and some more experimentation... (I moved all the longer cooldowns out for manual casting for now)


/stopmacro [channeling]
/cast Nether Tempest
/castsequence Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast
/cast Arcane Missiles

is doing about 18k self buffed in the lvl 86 greens you get from the quest.

beeq
07-22-2012, 11:44 PM
Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast

Team Beeq likes this.

halabar
07-23-2012, 12:15 AM
Team Beeq likes this.

The amusing thing is that they eliminated the old burn phase / management phase to make it less one-button, but in reality they may have made it easier to macro. It remains to be seen how this works with Invocation, but unless they release lvl 90 premades for testing, we'll just have to experiment when we get there.

jstanthr
07-23-2012, 02:12 AM
i do mine a little different. as i only want missles to fire after 5 arc blasts.

/castsequence reset=combat [nochanneling] arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane missiles, arcane barrage

it will step as normal as long as nothing is channeling, if it is, it will pause until it can. it has worked for me so far

Lyonheart
07-23-2012, 10:33 AM
/castsequence reset=combat [nochanneling]

This is how i do my macros to not break channeling as well.. its takes less space than having a sperate line for /stopmacro [channleing]

halabar
07-24-2012, 01:35 AM
i do mine a little different. as i only want missles to fire after 5 arc blasts.

/castsequence reset=combat [nochanneling] arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane missiles, arcane barrage

it will step as normal as long as nothing is channeling, if it is, it will pause until it can. it has worked for me so far

I'll try that on beta and see if it performs well with the new mechanic (might need two arcane missiles at the end to optimize for the new method). Barrage eats the stacking buff, so you may not want it at the end, depending on the new tier talent you pick.

jstanthr
07-24-2012, 02:09 AM
I'll try that on beta and see if it performs well with the new mechanic (might need two arcane missiles at the end to optimize for the new method). Barrage eats the stacking buff, so you may not want it at the end, depending on the new tier talent you pick.

missles eats the stacking buff too, thats the whole point of using it

halabar
07-26-2012, 01:31 AM
i do mine a little different. as i only want missles to fire after 5 arc blasts.

/castsequence reset=combat [nochanneling] arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane missiles, arcane barrage

it will step as normal as long as nothing is channeling, if it is, it will pause until it can. it has worked for me so far

Were you doing that on live? I tried beta, and it doesn't seem to work as well there. The issue is you want to be burning arcane missiles more often, it's not just a filler spell anymore. When I tried working in the Nether Tempest, something would always stick, or simply the missles would not be triggered. I also tried putting the Nether tempest in the castsequence, but then it got cast too often..

What still seems to be working best is:


/stopmacro [channeling]
/cast Nether Tempest
/castsequence Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast
/cast Arcane Missiles


Which allows the missiles to trigger pretty soon after they proc. All the other longer cooldowns are in one spammable macro.

What remains to be seen is what the lvl 90 talent will do to this. For Arcane, evocation will have to be part of it.

halabar
08-25-2012, 06:16 PM
ok, not sure what to do here now. With the latest changes, arcane is a mana drain. The problem appears to be that they have tuned it to use the lvl 90 talent, which is great, unless you are not lvl 90 yet. This version blows through mana, so I don't know what else to do with it before 90.


/castsequence reset=combat [nochanneling] arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane blast,
/cast Arcane Missiles


/cast Mirror Image
/cast Arcane Power
/use Brilliant Mana Gem

alt version of main, trying to manage Nether Tempest (problem to the the variability of the arcane missles proc, can't reliably time it.)


/stopmacro [channeling]
/cast Nether Tempest
/castsequence Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast
/cast Arcane Missiles


/castsequence reset=combat/13 [nochanneling] Nether Tempest,arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane blast,arcane blast, arcane blast,arcane blast, arcane blast,
/cast Arcane Missiles

I'm gonna let someone else figure out shammys... just looking at those give me a headache now, lol

Raist
08-26-2012, 12:48 PM
For leveling, might not be a huge deal as you can stop and drink... Even in Cata, I've found that I can basically burn all the time and just take some snack breaks

beeq
09-04-2012, 06:03 AM
missles eats the stacking buff too, thats the whole point of using it

Actually, missiles does not eat the stacking buff so you have to pew barrage once in a while, which sucks. Really.

Also I noticed /castsequence broken or bugging. For example:
/castsequence Arcane Blast, Frost Bomb, Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast
never casts frost bomb, only AB. :(

Selz
09-04-2012, 11:33 AM
All in 1 key the way Mosg2 showed us with deathknights

First
#showtooltip Arcane Missiles
/stopmacro [channeling]
/cast Arcane Missiles

2nd
#showtooltip Arcane Blast
/stopmacro [channeling]
/castsequence reset=3 Nether Tempest, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Barrage

3rd
A demand click key for cooldowns. otherwise just spam 2.


This way you wont have to press for procs, it works with other classes aswell, ive set up at pala/mage/lock/shaman/priest team using mosg2's system
and its really flawless one other incredible positive thing is atonement from the disc priest, now penance also heal thougth damage dealt, and it heals alot...

If you guys have any issues with macros and such, just try and use his system. Im sure youll be impressed, I pulled 75k DPS on my 1button arcane mage in LFR yesterday

Lyonheart
09-04-2012, 12:47 PM
All in 1 key the way Mosg2 showed us with deathknights

First
#showtooltip Arcane Missiles
/stopmacro [channeling]
/cast Arcane Missiles

2nd
#showtooltip Arcane Blast
/stopmacro [channeling]
/castsequence reset=3 Nether Tempest, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Barrage

3rd
A demand click key for cooldowns. otherwise just spam 2.


This way you wont have to press for procs, it works with other classes aswell, ive set up at pala/mage/lock/shaman/priest team using mosg2's system
and its really flawless one other incredible positive thing is atonement from the disc priest, now penance also heal thougth damage dealt, and it heals alot...

If you guys have any issues with macros and such, just try and use his system. Im sure youll be impressed, I pulled 75k DPS on my 1button arcane mage in LFR yesterday

I have been using his system for every class i run since he shared it with us 8) it rocks..who needs fall through macros? not muh!

alastoire
09-05-2012, 10:16 AM
All in 1 key the way Mosg2 showed us with deathknights

First
#showtooltip Arcane Missiles
/stopmacro [channeling]
/cast Arcane Missiles

2nd
#showtooltip Arcane Blast
/stopmacro [channeling]
/castsequence reset=3 Nether Tempest, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Barrage

3rd
A demand click key for cooldowns. otherwise just spam 2.


This way you wont have to press for procs, it works with other classes aswell, ive set up at pala/mage/lock/shaman/priest team using mosg2's system
and its really flawless one other incredible positive thing is atonement from the disc priest, now penance also heal thougth damage dealt, and it heals alot...

If you guys have any issues with macros and such, just try and use his system. Im sure youll be impressed, I pulled 75k DPS on my 1button arcane mage in LFR yesterday

I am sorry but I am not familiar with this system. Do you mind giving me more details? Do I set up the 3 macros with 3 different keys?

jstanthr
09-05-2012, 01:25 PM
here is what im currently using with 5x 85 arc mages.

button 2 is only key used
macro in wow
/castsequence reset=12 nether tempest, null
isboxer sends the following macros seperately but at the same time
/cast sequece reset=combat [nochanneling] arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane blast, arcane barrage
/cast [nochanneling] arcane missles

what happens ingame is this, (this is ONLY for single target dps btw) my aoe/pvp is done manually
all five throw up nether tempest macro hangs, and doesn't step for 12seconds, then reapplys nether tempest
i almost always get 2 sets of missles off in 4 arcane blast casts, so i get all 6 stacks of the arcane buff on the target, then
it does barrage for mega damage and resets the stacks and starts over
the [nochanneling] ensures that neither macro breaks the missles cast, and also to make sure that missles doesn't double cast.
It has worked out for me pretty good so far.

Khatovar
09-05-2012, 10:33 PM
I am sorry but I am not familiar with this system. Do you mind giving me more details? Do I set up the 3 macros with 3 different keys?

http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/34317-Mosg-s-DK-Manifesto-Version-2-0
http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/47866-Mosg2-manifesto-help-with-DK-Macros

beeq
09-06-2012, 04:50 AM
http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/34317-Mosg-s-DK-Manifesto-Version-2-0

Link doesn't contain any video :b

Multibocks
09-06-2012, 11:01 PM
Hey Runtu how is the patch treating mages? Can you AB spam bosses down still? More dps? Less?

Raist
09-07-2012, 11:04 PM
All in 1 key the way Mosg2 showed us with deathknights

First
#showtooltip Arcane Missiles
/stopmacro [channeling]
/cast Arcane Missiles

2nd
#showtooltip Arcane Blast
/stopmacro [channeling]
/castsequence reset=3 Nether Tempest, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Barrage

3rd
A demand click key for cooldowns. otherwise just spam 2.


This way you wont have to press for procs, it works with other classes aswell, ive set up at pala/mage/lock/shaman/priest team using mosg2's system
and its really flawless one other incredible positive thing is atonement from the disc priest, now penance also heal thougth damage dealt, and it heals alot...

If you guys have any issues with macros and such, just try and use his system. Im sure youll be impressed, I pulled 75k DPS on my 1button arcane mage in LFR yesterday

Could you do this with fire where you have to get "heating up" and then cast inferno blast to get instant pyro? Just curious as I set up my arcane mage and it works really well... I'd just like to play with it a bit. I am assuming that you didn't take presence of mind but one of the other talents that allows casting and moving?

thefunk
09-09-2012, 06:07 PM
This is where I've got to so far with it and works quite well. The dps loss I can see is when missiles proc just after the arcane barrage dump.

Button 1


#showtooltip
/stopmacro [channeling]
/castsequence reset=target nether tempest,null
/castsequence reset=target Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast,arcane blast, arcane blast,arcane barrage
/use 13
/use 14


Button 2: Arcane missiles, Button 3: arcane power, button 4: mana gem button 5: mirror image, button 6: presence of mind.

all in 1 key.

Raist
09-09-2012, 08:29 PM
Does mana gem do anything but give mana these days?